@@lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365an error has occurred and your body needs an restart :[ make sure you have a good friend who will take you to the hospital and restart your heart otherwise it can kill you:[ error code:sgn949539flp[signal from neuron number 949539 has flipped]
@@Anquarza 4 months ago lol, I don't remember things that happened more than a couple months ago, was that me? Was I drunk again? Somebody broke on my account? Oh no, it's just my memory
There is some special case where you have to use registered ECC memory: registered ECC memory sticks can have higher density than non-buffered ones. There are 16GB sticks of DDR3 memory, but only in registered ECC form. If you have a high core count machine that you intend to run a bunch of VMs on (like LTT's 10-gamer-one-PC rig) you may have to use those high density memory modules so each VM still have enough dedicated RAM
Im going in ddr3! Why? Because same with consoles "Best games and games that use the best way all the resources the console have are created when the console is older and have some years on the market" So if you wanna buy best ddr4 ram you will pay 6k$ for for example 8x Balistix Max And for best ddr3 you will pay only 500$ AND im 100% sure if you will buy best ddr4 now then in like 5years there gonna be much better for ddr4 than this and these Crucial Balistix Max gonna cost 2/10 the price And for ddr3 still not much gonna change So the price / performance is ddr3 The price/more price in the future is ddr4
@@hammyboigaming904 im actually going in cheap DDR5 ram and an i3 12Gen cpu because of low power cores feature, also 12VO speced motherboard it will be, and an Titanium powersupply.
ThioJoe Luckily I haven't got a virus on my pc for more than an year already. But I'm getting blue screens frequently because of the video card driver crashing while PUBG is running.
Thanks ThioJoe for this video. I'm learning how to put a server together, and your tutorial on ECC memory was very helpful. Your speech was clear, and you showed a certain mastery of your craft.
Crashes due to memory corruption are one issue for which you want ECC memory, but that really misses a very important, if not the most important reason for using ECC memory: corruption of 'in-transit' data. Changing a few bytes of some spreadsheet or such 'in memory' won't crash your computer, and will initially go unnoticed in many cases, but will end up corrupting your data when saving the file regardless. That is a much more important reason for using ECC memory.
@@HermanWillems Same. I have a Colorful C.H81A-BTC V20 motherboard & am thinking on putting in a Intel Xeon E3-1226 V3 with 2x16GB DDR 1600MHz ECC RAM though I have no idea if the board would support the RAMs. 🤔😕
It's not just the motherboard, but the CPU has to support ECC too, and a lot of consumer CPUs like the i5 and i7 don't. Some i3's and Pentiums do though, you have to check Intel's spec page.
the fun part about knowing how computers work is that you get smart enough to figure that all processors are made up of nano-meter sized transistors. they are gates of electrical flow. there are "and-gates" and "or-gates." depending on whats triggering the signal, whether it should be a 1 or a 0, the CPU stores the data in the Random Accessible Memory Module for it to run programs and more. the data/bits are stored in the hard drive first then the ram. correct me if im wrong with anything.
As I understand parity and ECC ram, I do not think, that a parity drive can save you from data corruption caused by a flipped bit. If the server/filesystem doesn‘t know what the data is supposed to be like, it is not going to check or correct the error. So for NAS use, even though in the consumer market in cheaper models it seems to always be missing, I guess it‘s best to have ECC ram. Great explanations in this video!
sometimes constructing the words in regular language is really hard. your little sister will know when she grows up and she will definitely let you know.
Yes , it can for sure, ecc memory is not that unpopular, although it's worse performance and cost so much, it can run even crysis remastered at 4k 60fps in a good system
I just bought 1x32gb Ram with ECC (didn't know it was server RAM), and tried to use in on my PC, on boot the fans just spun up, but no display, no USB (keybourd/mouse) activity, so my PC is now just a realy weak desktop fan I was curious as to why this one was so cheap, and am looking into a refund, but Is there any way i can get this to work? a DDR3 32gb stick is pretty expensive, and i thought id found a good deal...
3D render dude here, FWIW, we render in image sequences for this very reason. If it crashes, we pick up at the frame where it crashed. But that's kind of besides the point that it would be preferable that it didn't crash at all, lol.
I absolutely love this site. Your information is so clear and informative. I have worked with computers for the last 30 years and you have taught me more that I ever knew. I'm amazed that you can explain everything so clear and completely. I love your site
Haters out here. he is just briefing out about the ECC memory. if you want to learn in-depth go to a school or read a book about memory. you can't just learn everything in 1 day and definitely not 20 minutes. and YES, PLEASE GROW UP.
I got a dell business computer for my boss that has ECC. It would be roughly 3-4 times the cost, but they had a sale, and I got it closer to 2x the price. But they can easily hit 10x the cost if you aren't careful! A Zeon chip, and Quadro card will run you way up
There's never just one parity bit, so by looking at the regular bits and the other parity bits, the computer can tell the only number that must be wrong is one of the parity bits and ignore it.
ThioJoe, that was very informative I always wanted to know what ECM does and you explained very well. Keep up the good work and as always I love your videos.
One time my computer wasn't booting, so I just did some Google searches and then I started opening crap and putting it back in and eventually it turned on. My RAM was also not being recognised and doing this solved it.
The example you gave involved single-bit parity bits representing odd or even. This only works with very small amounts of data, and also does not facilitate any means of actually correcting the data. Instead, it only facilitates an ACK/NACK response (acknowledge receipt of correct data, or not acknowledge). In the case of a NACK, it renews the request for that data. This is too slow to be practical. It is for this reason that ECC memory in computers like the iMac Pro generate a 7-bit code for every 64 bits of data by using non-binary, cyclic error-correcting code. When the computer reads the 64 bits, it regenerates this code, then compares it to the one stored on the memory chip. If they don't match, the code enables the algorithm to actually find and fix the problem. On the iMac Pro, the cost in terms of performance is actually only about 1%, so this happens very fast.
Memory errors occur for a variety of reasons. An SEU (Single Event Upset) flips a single bit. This is usually caused by radiation from the sun, gamma rays, naturally occurring isotopes emitting alpha particles, variances in magnetic field, Electromagnetic Interference (what made your old TV get snowy when you ran the vacuum cleaner), fluctuations in electric flow (trying spending $8 on a voltometer and plug it into your outlet and you will see how much your voltage varies-- many good UPSs include noise filters and automatic voltage regulators that will supply clean power to your computer, which helps tremendously), etc. Experts estimate this happens between 2,000-6,000 times per Gigabyte of throughput, or about 0.00055789354% of the time.
Better examples of reasons you would want ECC memory (people that purchase iMac Pros, for instance) are as follows: if you host a Web Site that takes financial orders for products (if you crash in the middle of the order, you lost the money); you work from home doing medical coding (you don't want the computer to improperly transcribe a medical code); you use your computer to operate medical devices your life depends upon; you use your computer for a home recording studio, particularly if you make money with it (data errors translate to noise in a recording or crashes during long renders); you do video editing (visual or audio noise, or having to re-do long renders), etc. Also, memory errors don't just effect data. Instruction pointers are stored in memory and control where the computer fetches code instructions. Some memory locations are off-limits, because that are part of another virtual address space, or the operating system, or something that is otherwise "roped off" like Eagle Rock at your favorite ski resort. You can't go there. If a bit flips and turns your instruction pointer into a pointer to one of those forbidden areas, you get a blue screen (Windows), or your computer just reboots, or a process crashes, or otherwise bad things happens. ECC memory can prevent this from happening, so your computer is more stable.
Thanks for the explanation. I was trying to figure out if I should get ECC RAM for computer i’m setting up to pretty much be a dedicated Plex server. It doesn’t sound like ECC is necessary.
You don't need it on a desktop ? I disagree with this logic - The System OS is continually reading and writing data, registry, disk writes, etc. a single bit flip could be disastrous in some cases!
I've a doubt. If you type 8 and while execution flip bite occurs then will the output screen show any other number say 9 or computer will read 8 as 9 in future operations?
GTA V runs perfectly fine actually with less artifacts on my Xeon based Workstation with ECC RAM and GTX1080ti. So does every other game I have ever tried.
I compare DNA sequences in a computer, a single letter among thousands isn't a big deal, but sometimes I don't compare thousands but I don't know.... 15, this ECC sounds pretty critical to me. The fact that you can't think of anything else but rendering is... sad i guess.
extracting large data from rar files sometimes can frustated with corrupted files, checksum error, volume corrupt if you used normal ram ... but since i use ecc no problem what so ever it a bit slow but 100% no problem what so ever
can ECC type RAM be used for regular type motherboards that are not servers? what can use RAM like this if it can be used using a regular type of motherboard? please help Mr.
I have a Colorful C.H81A-BTC V20 motherboard & am thinking on putting in a Intel Xeon E3-1226 V3 CPU with 2x16GB DDR 1600MHz ECC RAM though I have no idea if the board would support the RAMs. 🤔😶😕😞
Nice. But the binary number you gave would not be the number eight. They use ASCII for that data. So 8 = 00100110 or hex 38H. I know it doesn't matter but I can't help myself. :)
I do a lot of rendering. Sometimes for days. But I don't work in Hollywod lol Also if the computer crashes during the rendering I will only loose a single frame. Because 3D artists almost always give the software the order to render a frame a time and then you combine all the frames into one clip in a editing software. But I'll need to build a ECC system in the future for more reliability. Probably when a new Threadripper comes out that supports DDR5. Great video btw I learned a lot.
13:44 ...Or, you know, you can just render the video to a single folder as .png files for every frame, so when it saves frame 725.png, then starts rendering 726.png, does it halfway through and crashes, you can just set it to render from frame 726 and lose 1 frame of work in worst case. Then you just throw all of the frames into a video editor and render all of them into a single video - that would take much less time, and crashing in that case would not lose much time too. ...Although that requires some manual actions, such as drag&dropping all of the frames onto a video editor and clicking the Render button, and it would be hard drive space reliant, but to be honest, why would you buy and assemble a rendering workstation with 10GB HDD or something? lol
What would actually happen if you were to have 3 sticks of ram and 1 stick of stick of ecc? Would it even be possible to make ecc that you could use with regular ram?
I accidentally bought ddr3 8gb ecc ram for my non ecc pc because it was offered for only 15€ instead of something like 40€ for normal ram and now I apparently have an essentially useless ram stick :/
I had Kernal Panic on my Mac Pro2012.But after updating its been ok for around1 to 2 hours with me using it. But I think its my RAM cos after watching this video I found that after checking again I found my RAM3 had ECC ERRORS on Dim Slot 3. So I'm going to also de-Dust my Mac Pro2012 from dust & static & ill remove that bad ram. tho it could be the radiation from the sun or the solar system as u said back then since recently when I'm commenting 2020 sep 12th some science guys found two blackholes joining together. Tho sadly if my errors keep happening ill Gove up my Mac Pro 2012 and use use a normal fast windows-pc and my old macbookpro2012 too many issues with tech recently.
aren't there still computers today that use non parity memory? one example would be way back for the ibm ps/2 model whatever computers. another would be certain models of apple computers.
Any one can help me. I dont know whats goin on with my pc , it is Lenovo ThinkCentre M91p. i want install new memmory but it not even start to display when i install another memory card, only machine runing and no display, but it start with no issue with a only one 1GB ram card ( 1G DDR3 1333 DIMM CL9 [7W] ). but even with that 1gb ram, pc only work if it is on first slot. and if i put that 1gb ram on another slot pc wont come to display. and no matter how much i tried with another ram card on even with first slot , pc want come to display .any idea whats wrong , Thank you
Wish my brain was ECC
Are you crashing?
Show me your blue screen error code
@@lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365an error has occurred and your body needs an restart
:[
make sure you have a good friend who will take you to the hospital and restart your heart
otherwise it can kill you:[
error code:sgn949539flp[signal from neuron number 949539 has flipped]
@@Anquarza 4 months ago lol, I don't remember things that happened more than a couple months ago, was that me? Was I drunk again? Somebody broke on my account? Oh no, it's just my memory
Me doing the same calculation wrong 10 times
Should I delete system32? I’ve heard it frees up disk space.
I mean you're not wrong i guess
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It works !
TF2 Sniper - I think he was just kidding
...
There is some special case where you have to use registered ECC memory: registered ECC memory sticks can have higher density than non-buffered ones. There are 16GB sticks of DDR3 memory, but only in registered ECC form. If you have a high core count machine that you intend to run a bunch of VMs on (like LTT's 10-gamer-one-PC rig) you may have to use those high density memory modules so each VM still have enough dedicated RAM
Ram prices have just been disgusting the past few months
I came from the future to tell you that ram prices are now awesome
Aha, scooping up DDR3 for pennies on dollar. Everyone going into DDr4.
Im going in ddr3!
Why?
Because same with consoles
"Best games and games that use the best way all the resources the console have are created when the console is older and have some years on the market"
So if you wanna buy best ddr4 ram you will pay 6k$ for for example 8x Balistix Max
And for best ddr3 you will pay only 500$
AND im 100% sure if you will buy best ddr4 now then in like 5years there gonna be much better for ddr4 than this and these Crucial Balistix Max gonna cost 2/10 the price
And for ddr3 still not much gonna change
So the price / performance is ddr3
The price/more price in the future is ddr4
@@lolnjeoglondajmejejplejlis3365 DDR3 RDIMMs are really cheap and are pretty good still
@@hammyboigaming904 im actually going in cheap DDR5 ram and an i3 12Gen cpu because of low power cores feature, also 12VO speced motherboard it will be, and an Titanium powersupply.
Ugh don't you hate when your computer gets all these errors and viruses?
Yes ofcourse
+ThioJoe
I just delete system 32 all headache gone :)
ThioJoe not if I'm using a virtual machine, *N o v i r u s e s o n m y c o m p u t e r a t a l l.*
ThioJoe Luckily I haven't got a virus on my pc for more than an year already. But I'm getting blue screens frequently because of the video card driver crashing while PUBG is running.
ThioJoe 🤔
Thanks ThioJoe for this video. I'm learning how to put a server together, and your tutorial on ECC memory was very helpful. Your speech was clear, and you showed a certain mastery of your craft.
14:02 - 14:07 For a moment, I thought that they were VHS Tapes.
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the 8 the 5
It would probably also be useful in a workstation for airflow simulations so that the aircraft you built won't crash or something like that :)
As long as I can play free online games at 60 fps, I don't care what RAM is...
Victor Greavu 60 fps? 240 fps is where it is at bruh :D
I don't know about you but when I'm playing Online Free Shooter 3D, it shows me 60 fps. I think I am gonna download more RAM... It is free right?
Victor Greavu no :< that's not how it works.. You need a monitor that supports 144hz or up to 240hz.
Btw I was sarcastic =)))
Victor Greavu cool :)
Accidentally clicked on your video because your thumb nail looks like linus from linus tech tips, hope I don't make this mistake again.
Huh, just learned this in school today. So I learned nothing in school I wouldn't have learned 5 hours later. FML
Crashes due to memory corruption are one issue for which you want ECC memory, but that really misses a very important, if not the most important reason for using ECC memory: corruption of 'in-transit' data.
Changing a few bytes of some spreadsheet or such 'in memory' won't crash your computer, and will initially go unnoticed in many cases, but will end up corrupting your data when saving the file regardless. That is a much more important reason for using ECC memory.
I have ECC memory in my consumer product motherboard that supports ECC memory in my FreeNAS Server's
Same.
Jorge out of curiosity what FreeNAS version are you running im on FreeNAS-11.0-U4 on both of my server's
11.0-U4 I use it as the media server, with transmission and PlexMediaServer running.
What kind of motherboard with what chipset and processors you use? Am looking into i3 with ECC compatible chipset and ram..
@@HermanWillems Same. I have a Colorful C.H81A-BTC V20 motherboard & am thinking on putting in a Intel Xeon E3-1226 V3 with 2x16GB DDR 1600MHz ECC RAM though I have no idea if the board would support the RAMs. 🤔😕
It's not just the motherboard, but the CPU has to support ECC too, and a lot of consumer CPUs like the i5 and i7 don't. Some i3's and Pentiums do though, you have to check Intel's spec page.
the fun part about knowing how computers work is that you get smart enough to figure that all processors are made up of nano-meter sized transistors. they are gates of electrical flow. there are "and-gates" and "or-gates." depending on whats triggering the signal, whether it should be a 1 or a 0, the CPU stores the data in the Random Accessible Memory Module for it to run programs and more. the data/bits are stored in the hard drive first then the ram. correct me if im wrong with anything.
As I understand parity and ECC ram, I do not think, that a parity drive can save you from data corruption caused by a flipped bit. If the server/filesystem doesn‘t know what the data is supposed to be like, it is not going to check or correct the error. So for NAS use, even though in the consumer market in cheaper models it seems to always be missing, I guess it‘s best to have ECC ram.
Great explanations in this video!
"If you can't explain it - you don't understand it" my little sister ;)
WeedMIC wise words
Mfw quantum physicist
sometimes constructing the words in regular language is really hard.
your little sister will know when she grows up and she will definitely let you know.
I just taught this topic in my lecture today. This video is pretty accurate!
Talking about ECC just to call me and my whole stuff useless and not important. Thanks Joe
4:28 Are you saying 00111000 Binary is 8 Decimal? According to my math, it's 56. 8 would be 00001000 and 9 00001001.
Incredible image quality in your videos man! Do you film in 4k and then downgrade to 1080p or do you just really know what you are doing? :P
But can it run Crysis at 60 FPS and at 4k?🤔🤔
yes but the true question is
*CAN IT RUN CHROME* ?
Yes , it can for sure, ecc memory is not that unpopular, although it's worse performance and cost so much, it can run even crysis remastered at 4k 60fps in a good system
I saw an ecc computer ram for 10k$
I just bought 1x32gb Ram with ECC (didn't know it was server RAM), and tried to use in on my PC, on boot the fans just spun up, but no display, no USB (keybourd/mouse) activity, so my PC is now just a realy weak desktop fan
I was curious as to why this one was so cheap, and am looking into a refund, but Is there any way i can get this to work? a DDR3 32gb stick is pretty expensive, and i thought id found a good deal...
3D render dude here, FWIW, we render in image sequences for this very reason. If it crashes, we pick up at the frame where it crashed. But that's kind of besides the point that it would be preferable that it didn't crash at all, lol.
I hope, no bit has flipped from this video by any element in the universe while I watching this video 😂😂
No, deleting system32 is more faster and safe.
Carl Johnson deleting system 32 can prevent windows from booting
Luke Mckay no shit
@@RogueGamer29 yep
just dont
not cool man
I want this guy to be my computer teacher
Nama Alaraby why not
oh please dont 😂
I absolutely love this site. Your information is so clear and informative. I have worked with computers for the last 30 years and you have taught me more that I ever knew. I'm amazed that you can explain everything so clear and completely. I love your site
he owns youtube now?
Haters out here. he is just briefing out about the ECC memory. if you want to learn in-depth go to a school or read a book about memory. you can't just learn everything in 1 day and definitely not 20 minutes. and YES, PLEASE GROW UP.
Is ECC valid in India?
No
TheSoulLessKing :(
SlirMeister No. But it's valid in Ethiopia tho
Avixil With pleasure
Ibraheem Al hadede Oh thats good i live there on the weekends
I got a dell business computer for my boss that has ECC. It would be roughly 3-4 times the cost, but they had a sale, and I got it closer to 2x the price.
But they can easily hit 10x the cost if you aren't careful! A Zeon chip, and Quadro card will run you way up
gotta love these types of vids, would a love a video on different types of rom :)
But what if your parity bit gets flipped?
Someone then the computer still detects it because the bits don't add up
There's never just one parity bit, so by looking at the regular bits and the other parity bits, the computer can tell the only number that must be wrong is one of the parity bits and ignore it.
ThioJoe, that was very informative I always wanted to know what ECM does and you explained very well. Keep up the good work and as always I love your videos.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECM
One time my computer wasn't booting, so I just did some Google searches and then I started opening crap and putting it back in and eventually it turned on. My RAM was also not being recognised and doing this solved it.
windows xp has bluescreened
stop code 0xYOUDONTHAVEANYRAM
You can also download your RAM online.
If I can buy ECC cheaper than non ECC, can I use it on my regular home PC? 2% performance hit doesn't matter to me.
If the board supports it, then yes.
Thanks for the explanation. You could explain that it is the dynamic ECC in flash memories.
The example you gave involved single-bit parity bits representing odd or even. This only works with very small amounts of data, and also does not facilitate any means of actually correcting the data. Instead, it only facilitates an ACK/NACK response (acknowledge receipt of correct data, or not acknowledge). In the case of a NACK, it renews the request for that data. This is too slow to be practical. It is for this reason that ECC memory in computers like the iMac Pro generate a 7-bit code for every 64 bits of data by using non-binary, cyclic error-correcting code. When the computer reads the 64 bits, it regenerates this code, then compares it to the one stored on the memory chip. If they don't match, the code enables the algorithm to actually find and fix the problem. On the iMac Pro, the cost in terms of performance is actually only about 1%, so this happens very fast.
Memory errors occur for a variety of reasons. An SEU (Single Event Upset) flips a single bit. This is usually caused by radiation from the sun, gamma rays, naturally occurring isotopes emitting alpha particles, variances in magnetic field, Electromagnetic Interference (what made your old TV get snowy when you ran the vacuum cleaner), fluctuations in electric flow (trying spending $8 on a voltometer and plug it into your outlet and you will see how much your voltage varies-- many good UPSs include noise filters and automatic voltage regulators that will supply clean power to your computer, which helps tremendously), etc. Experts estimate this happens between 2,000-6,000 times per Gigabyte of throughput, or about 0.00055789354% of the time.
Better examples of reasons you would want ECC memory (people that purchase iMac Pros, for instance) are as follows: if you host a Web Site that takes financial orders for products (if you crash in the middle of the order, you lost the money); you work from home doing medical coding (you don't want the computer to improperly transcribe a medical code); you use your computer to operate medical devices your life depends upon; you use your computer for a home recording studio, particularly if you make money with it (data errors translate to noise in a recording or crashes during long renders); you do video editing (visual or audio noise, or having to re-do long renders), etc. Also, memory errors don't just effect data. Instruction pointers are stored in memory and control where the computer fetches code instructions. Some memory locations are off-limits, because that are part of another virtual address space, or the operating system, or something that is otherwise "roped off" like Eagle Rock at your favorite ski resort. You can't go there. If a bit flips and turns your instruction pointer into a pointer to one of those forbidden areas, you get a blue screen (Windows), or your computer just reboots, or a process crashes, or otherwise bad things happens. ECC memory can prevent this from happening, so your computer is more stable.
Most motherboards don't support ECC. Most motherboards require Non-ECC, Un-Buffered memory
The chinese x99 mobo supports both non ecc and ecc ram.
If you don't run a Server with ZFS, you don't really need it. And even then, it might not matter, because of checksums.
Hey Theo ... How about talking about Bitcoin and what you think about it and do you own any ???? Thanks
Thanks for the explanation. I was trying to figure out if I should get ECC RAM for computer i’m setting up to pretty much be a dedicated Plex server. It doesn’t sound like ECC is necessary.
Super Explained, Clear as water. Thanks, Joe.
I guess the information is good, for people that don't know, but the flipped bit is still rare and if you crash it's most likely something else.
like for example,
using windows
Ethan Weegee nah lol im thinking hardware
ECC RAM is supported on AMD higher end consumer platforms.
You don't need it on a desktop ? I disagree with this logic - The System OS is continually reading and writing data, registry, disk writes, etc. a single bit flip could be disastrous in some cases!
so what you are saying is tha ecc ram is useless for consumes because it never happens that something is "flipped"
I've a doubt. If you type 8 and while execution flip bite occurs then will the output screen show any other number say 9 or computer will read 8 as 9 in future operations?
If the EU can legally force Apple to switch to USB-C. Why can’t we force manufacturers to make ecc a legal standard?
if your data and calculations are important; ECC is the ONLY way to go.
Would ECC RAM prevent artifacts in games?
GTA V runs perfectly fine actually with less artifacts on my Xeon based Workstation with ECC RAM and GTX1080ti. So does every other game I have ever tried.
Thank you so much for the skippable ad this time!
Well the Ampere GPU's have ECC Vram. And apperently it prevents the weird artifacts when u overclock it so much but not sure if it helps that much.
Hi,
If the VRAM is ECC for workstation graphics card, does the system RAM and the motherboard must be also ECC or it does not matter ?
I compare DNA sequences in a computer, a single letter among thousands isn't a big deal, but sometimes I don't compare thousands but I don't know.... 15, this ECC sounds pretty critical to me. The fact that you can't think of anything else but rendering is... sad i guess.
good one theo. better explanation than linus tips.
I dont need ecc but the video was easy to understand 😉😉
Super Dude , You have lot of knowledge............
The iMac pro has 128GB of it
Surplus ECC ram is usually always less expensive than non ECC
extracting large data from rar files sometimes can frustated with corrupted files, checksum error, volume corrupt if you used normal ram ... but since i use ecc no problem what so ever it a bit slow but 100% no problem what so ever
what if a parity bit switches
Extra Virgin oh. My. GAUHHH.
can ECC type RAM be used for regular type motherboards that are not servers? what can use RAM like this if it can be used using a regular type of motherboard? please help Mr.
I have a Colorful C.H81A-BTC V20 motherboard & am thinking on putting in a Intel Xeon E3-1226 V3 CPU with 2x16GB DDR 1600MHz ECC RAM though I have no idea if the board would support the RAMs. 🤔😶😕😞
Thank you for perfect explanation!
@ 3:39 Don't you mean CME? Cosmetic background radiation is pretty weak to cause any computer errors.
I love how D is all happy and C is all Sad
what happens if the parity bits get changed
Can I use this for gaming?
Now i know why i died even when i killed first in battlefield
Nice. But the binary number you gave would not be the number eight. They use ASCII for that data. So 8 = 00100110 or hex 38H. I know it doesn't matter but I can't help myself. :)
True story: My last RAM was bombarded by cosmic radiation and got stretching powers.
Can you give me a *free download link* to this ECC RAM?
It’s patched
NeoSephX damn.
@ThioJoe Yo dude, your byte representation of C and D are exactly the same. Just a heads up. 2:34
I do a lot of rendering. Sometimes for days. But I don't work in Hollywod lol
Also if the computer crashes during the rendering I will only loose a single frame. Because 3D artists almost always give the software the order to render a frame a time and then you combine all the frames into one clip in a editing software.
But I'll need to build a ECC system in the future for more reliability. Probably when a new Threadripper comes out that supports DDR5.
Great video btw I learned a lot.
13:44
...Or, you know, you can just render the video to a single folder as .png files for every frame, so when it saves frame 725.png, then starts rendering 726.png, does it halfway through and crashes, you can just set it to render from frame 726 and lose 1 frame of work in worst case. Then you just throw all of the frames into a video editor and render all of them into a single video - that would take much less time, and crashing in that case would not lose much time too.
...Although that requires some manual actions, such as drag&dropping all of the frames onto a video editor and clicking the Render button, and it would be hard drive space reliant, but to be honest, why would you buy and assemble a rendering workstation with 10GB HDD or something? lol
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ThioJoe Good explanation.
when you say buffer, how does that compare to the cache on the cpu which pre fetches instructions and data?
6:30 Huffman's code
but what if the parity bit gets switched! lolll
What would actually happen if you were to have 3 sticks of ram and 1 stick of stick of ecc? Would it even be possible to make ecc that you could use with regular ram?
Why do the letters C and D have the same binary code? isnt that very impractical?? 2:26
I know that they dont. Just pointing out a mistake.
that is the real cause of crashes
Tell me when you see an error in functioning of storage you dont feel some thing like distroing the comp
Can you make a $1000 gaming build for the holidays?
Will it prevent Bethesda games from crushing though?
ECC DDR3 is much much cheaper than desktop grade DDR3
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when you say ecc or error correcting, is this just another way to say crc aka cyclic redundancy check?
I accidentally bought ddr3 8gb ecc ram for my non ecc pc because it was offered for only 15€ instead of something like 40€ for normal ram and now I apparently have an essentially useless ram stick :/
Can you plz tell me how to install swedish meatballs on my gameboy
first you need some ECC memory
4:50 - Great! No, honestly great. Just one little thing... It's not 9, but 57.
Best make their mistakes.
Laughed at that too
What if the parity bits gets flipped
Does anyone know any Intel or AMD mini-ITX form factor motherboards with ECC support?
I had Kernal Panic on my Mac Pro2012.But after updating its been ok for around1 to 2 hours with me using it. But I think its my RAM cos after watching this video I found that after checking again I found my RAM3 had ECC ERRORS on Dim Slot 3. So I'm going to also de-Dust my Mac Pro2012 from dust & static & ill remove that bad ram.
tho it could be the radiation from the sun or the solar system as u said back then since recently when I'm commenting 2020 sep 12th some science guys found two blackholes joining together.
Tho sadly if my errors keep happening ill Gove up my Mac Pro 2012 and use use a normal fast windows-pc and my old macbookpro2012 too many issues with tech recently.
aren't there still computers today that use non parity memory? one example would be way back for the ibm ps/2 model whatever computers. another would be certain models of apple computers.
where can i download this ram?
Any one can help me. I dont know whats goin on with my pc , it is Lenovo ThinkCentre M91p. i want install new memmory but it not even start to display when i install another memory card, only machine runing and no display, but it start with no issue with a only one 1GB ram card ( 1G DDR3 1333 DIMM CL9 [7W] ). but even with that 1gb ram, pc only work if it is on first slot. and if i put that 1gb ram on another slot pc wont come to display. and no matter how much i tried with another ram card on even with first slot , pc want come to display .any idea whats wrong , Thank you
So is it better than regular ram for gaming?
9:30 most server grade memory will have heat spreaders but ok
ah, ok, thanks for this
the more you know :)
was about to buy some more memory now i know which to buy