4 TS808 Tube Screamer Style Pedals (Ibanez TS808, EHX East River Drive, Mooer Green Mile, EQD Dunes)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- A thorough comparison of the 2004 reissue of the classic late 1970s Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer with three takes on the same pedal.
Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer Overdrive Pro (2004 Reissue)
www.ibanez.com...
Electro-Harmonix East River Drive
www.ehx.com/pr...
Mooer Green Mile
www.mooeraudio....
Earthquaker Devices Dunes V2 Mini Mega Ultimate Overdrive
www.earthquake...
Gear:
Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster (both pickups)
EHX 720 Looper
Boss Katana 50w amp (Clean channel)
mic'd with a Sennheiser e609
into a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Recorded in GarageBand, edited in Final Cut Pro X
This riff is so fuckin awesome
No, YOU are.
@@ThePedalBored 😁😁😁😁
I'm so impressed that a married man has such a great pedal collection. Well done.
Ha! I sell them (or return them if they're kindly lent to me) once I've demoed them. So although my pedal collection is certainly larger than some, it's relatively small.
@@ThePedalBored What pedals do you keep / are on your board?
@@kosmicwizard (Don't tell anyone: I don't have a pedal board!)
@@ThePedalBored :O
The east river probably looks the coolest and that’s the most important part
You need to find a drummer and make a goddamn record, man. These riffs are way too good to be kept in these already very helpful and informative pedal demos. You have a gift for riff writing, keep it up! Love your channel ❤️
Came for the loop. Was not disappointed. Keep groovin', man.
Now this is the kind of subscriber I like.
Lol, just watched a bunch of these vids and hit the subscribe button based on the strength of the loops too 😅 I think the Blues Driver comparison video has my favourite loop thus far.
@@duncanpark9101 Same here. The Blues Driver loop really has the groove, imo.
@@duncanpark9101 yup!
I love my EHX East River Drive. One of my favorite pedals!
Dude has pedals and books. Mad respect.
You just earned a subscriber! That's how you review pedals!
Your loop here is really groovy man, great job!!
EDIT: 10 months later and I bought my first tube screamer: The East River Drive. Really great sounding pedal, colors your tone a lot but in a nice manner. I think I like tubescreamers now??
Fell in love with the East River Drive in these demos. But I'll eventually get the Dunes; it's my favorite fuzz on TH-cam so far..
Man, I also have chosen a east river. Didn't try it yet.
The riffs you use on your videos are all killer. Makes the demo that much better. Keep up the great work.
Thanks!
And Ehx does it again. So damn good.
These are the best pedal reviews out there, imaginative not boring and awesome riffs
Thanks! Glad you like them.
Wow! Just wow! Perfect demo video. Love the wood, the books, the stationary view point, the use of the looper pedal sound it's the exact same throughout the demo, the quick back and forth comparisons so you don't forget what either sounded like, the AMAZING CAPTIONS!, the humor and personality in them... perfection.
Honestly, same, I also don’t like TubeScreamers.
Which is probably why the Dunes on full range was my favorite.
It's like we share the same monocle, Monocle Pig.
You're not using them right. Cranked master volume, low gain and this in front
The way they are demoed sound like shite
lol what
@@tomvice How is that any different from what he did here?
Just sold my plumes to get a dunes specifically for that full range switch.
Fantastic review. I wish all reviews were done in this way. Thank you.
This is the second video of yours I've seen, and I expected to see in the desc. or comments that you use cover songs.
Your music is wayyyy better than it has any right to be. Oh my God...
You are amazing.
Well that's very nice to read. It's honestly just me noodling about trying to find something that isn't boring to listen to and fits the tone of the pedal okay - glad I seem to be getting it right.
The East River Drive just won for me. Like, cmon its dirt cheap and it sounds close enough, but not too close. The Dunes are pretty good and other people noted it, without considering the harsh price, of course.
Same with me. East river wins it for a few reasons. Price is great and it can hang with all the others.
@@СынСын-н9ь Окей, а что из хорошего посоветуете?
It's the same pedal down to the same transistor/opamp/whatever. The authentic one might - or might not - have better quality components (stricter tolerances, more durability). I don't know and that's why I bought the East River Drive. The slight variation in the top end is likely caused by a difference in potentiometer maximum resistance. It's typical for potentiometers to have 10-20% tolerance so that e.g. for 500Kohm pot the value is really between 400K and 600K. Typically it's 0-10% off the nominal. Super nerdy effects builders probaby test and bin their components before assembly to get more consistency but for mass produced pedals that's not reasonable. If you took a few genuine items off the shelf it could be that you would find greater difference between them than to an EHX clone. These slight variations might be a reason why people hunt tone by switching pedals back and forth. They waste time and money searching while they could just switch a few components inside the box.
Dunes sounds great, love the versatility of tone, although I don't think you could ever go wrong with the classic circuit. I have a Maxon OD808 on my live board. It's a great boost and an amazing overdrive.
The Maxon is the same as the TS808, right? Maxon was the factory where the original Ibanez pedals were made?
The truth is, a TS is a very very simple circuit and everyone with a bit of brains can replicate it 100%. I own a spare Behringer TO800 and it sounds spot-on line a TS808. And I paid it 20€ NEW (not joking). My favorite inexpensive TS clone, though, is the Hardwire CM-2 (the model when it was still called Hardwire and not Digitech): the normal mode is 100% TS808 clone as well, then it has a "modified" mode where the gain goes up A LOT while not muffling the sound like the Mooer does. And you can find it used for like 40€/$.
I bought a Behringer TO800 out of curiosity after the JHS video on Behringers. It sounds EXACTLY the same as a 150$ Ibanez TS808 and as far as I know is true bypass.
hardwire cm2 owner here. that thing is one of the best pedals ever for the price. built like a tank, sounds awesome. there is really NO reason whatsoever to buy an original Ibanez TS at those prices.
Yeah, it's definitely one of the easier ones. Which is why there are SO MANY COPIES of it EVERYWHERE.
True. No hard to find chipsets or diodes to track down. All very common and cheap. You can build your own for $30 (including the pc board and metal box) I’d say assuming you have the soldering gear already. Maybe closer to $75-$100 if it’s your first pedal. Pretty fun experience to build a pedal. Amazon has a decent soldering iron (be sure it’s variable temp or you’ll melt that board) for less than $20. Watch some soldering videos and don’t beat yourself up if you f it up. It’s just pedals. No rockets here. The 808 clone would be an easy first project. I also recommend the queen of bone (king of Tone clone). Amazing sounding pedal. Google it.
@David RF yep I’ve got the TO800 as well and it is a TS808 to perfection.
Paid the same as you too... brand new with free shipping from store to door, $23 usd
Best $23 I’ve ever spent on gear by far!
That riff is absolutely sick!
no fluff no platitudes no bad jokes no life story. just a fabulous comparison. well done and subscribed.
No life story lol seriously tho
Hello from Portugal!
That loop is awesome! Can you post a tutorial of how to play it? I want to play it in my house with all windows open so the streets of Oporto hear it. Thanks. Keep going.
K. So I need that EHX East River Drive now. Thanks.
You’re welcome! ;)
I have the East River Drive. I really like it. I don't know from Tube Screamers or Blues Breakers but it gives me a nice, tight, focused sound I really like.
this is best pedal comparison I've seen yet! not to mention the sick playing
One of the best pedal reviews I've seen and trust me when I say I've seen some lol your demo riff is awesome too!
I use the east river drive. Sounds amazing on its own and even as a boost to amp overdrive. Awesome pedal and so close to the original too
Sounds great through a fender deluxe reverb or clean channel on a mesa boogie.
Thank you very much for that well organized and sounded comparison! Nice tone.
You’re very welcome 🙏
I don’t normally like TS either, but I just bought a Dunes because of this video. I love your channel!
Man your videos are something else. Cheers to you, i really enjoy them.
Cheers to you - I really enjoy getting nice comments about them!
Great video, excellent comparison, awesome riff!!!
I think I'll go for the east river drive after that!
Thank you!
Every time, your riff is cool and very helpful. Thank you.
The image is fashionable!
I appreciate it.
I was enthralled by that riff/loop! You're right, the differences between the 808 and the east river drive are almost imperceptible.
Very kind of you. I spend more time on the loops than I should really...
Great video man! I wish more gear channels would use loopers a LOT more often in comparisons!
I'm sold on the EH East River myself. Not only does it sound good, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that I was slightly won over by the look lol. I love the art on it, it looks fantastic imo.
Great job as always!
The Tube Screamer is one that has been cloned to perfection many many many times and all the clones I’ve heard are good for the most part. The TS808 is pretty simply circuitry.
It’s really just a matter of what you want to pay.
I have the Behringer TO800 Vintage Tube Drive and it’s identical.
Behringer has great clones of the EHX Big Muff, Pro Co Rat, and every classic Boss pedal as well.
I just discovered this channel. You not only make great, informative videos, but you also have great taste in books. Gore Vidal and Elmore Leonard? I love it
Thank you! I hope to be able to get back to making them soon once the world gets back to normal... 🦠
In the meantime, I have plenty of books to read 📚
@@ThePedalBored can't wait for you to come back! In the meantime, have fun reading stuff
hope you're well
I love your demos. The way you compare pedals couldn’t be more precise.
'Precise' - what a great word for it! I like it.
I come back to this video at least 2 day per week just to listen that fucking riff!
I've noticed Mooers are very good for the price and pedalboard saving size, however there is usually some life and interest that is missing in the sound, but they're 80% to there!
I love that
Looper ditty man It gets stuck in my head
I love my Earthquaker Dunes. It has the same chip like the TS808 but it's crazy what it can do. I usually let it do a normal TS job and tighten up my metal sound but i like the options with tone shaping, fuzzy sounds and all that.
Best tube screamer video yet. Awesome playing and very insightful!
This is a very well done shootout. Love how well you represent each pedal!
I feel like EQD took the Palisades/Dunes and said "Well if we're gonna do it, let's make it a Swiss army knife...". I use my Palisades as a 3 gain stage Bass preamp because it's that versatile. I was also not a ts guy
Best pedal comparisons on TH-cam by a country mile.
This is the kind of slightly Cornish comment I always enjoy as an Englishman transplanted transatlanticly.
@@ThePedalBored Wiltshire man, me!
oh now that tune is SO stuck in my head :)
Your riffs are so sick, this one especially!
Thank you!
I love these licks, every single video has amazing riffs
That song is amazing.
We need more of your pedal DJ-ing wizardry please!!! 😁
Very complete video thanks !
A comparaison with Ibanez ts mini (true bypass) and that clones would be interesting.
Great stuff, man. The Dunes is like a TS on steroids. I personally love TS type pedals so I hope you do more.
I've got a TS808/TS9 duel waiting to be edited, but other than that I think I'm done with Tube Screamers for a while. (Although I've just got my hands on an MXR Il Diavolo which is a 'hot-rodded' TS, so who knows?)
I remember you said you were not a big TS fan so I figured that was the case. I'm looking forward to the 808 TS9 though.
As another said, you "earned a subscriber", these side by sides are so well done. Good work sir
This is an interesting way to compare pedals. Using a loop to avoid the subtle differences in playing, style, pick attack etc that can occur playing live for each pedal. The only downside I see is that exact thing. Some pedals react differently, better or worse to different playing techniques( guitar volume, pick attack etc.)
Outstanding demo and lovely playing. The East Side sounds a bit more fizzy with less mid-body compared to the Tubescreamer. Great work. 👍
awesome demo, one of the best comparison videos on youtube. may I ask you why you did not play with joyo vintage od? I am %100 sure it wouldn't be better than any pedal in the video, but I just wonder your opions about joyos.
Smart order to put the buffered one at the end 👍🏽
Great tune and cool video!
Usted señor esta haciendo los mejores shootouts de youtube!!!
Dedo arriba, subscrito, hit the bell and you sold me a Katana amp dude, its works so good with pedals, gracias por tu trabajo tan bien hecho.
your reviews are some of the best on TH-cam. Great job!!
This is such a great demo, thanks so much for making this!
Sounds like "Life in the Fast Lane" by the Eagles at first but the transformation it took when it picks up is glorious! On a side note I went with the EQD Dunes with the lower switches to the right, the upper switch to the far left and all the knobs below 12 o'clock (varying) for a few different purposes like stacking on top of my Soul Food for a mid-boost and gain boost for metal and roll the volume pot on my guitar to max for solos. You can't go wrong with any of the pedals but it all depends on what you are looking for in a TS-llike pedal.
LOVE the loop... sounds like Frusciante... well, not the Frusciante of the past decade, but you know...
Really really enjoying your channel!
thank you so much for your great work. teacher of the month! BR from Berlin, Germany
This. This is how you compare pedals properly!
I had to stop and check I read it right.... Through a Boss Katana? Wow, sweet sounds.
Love your work mate. Would love to see your take on the Maxon TS pedals. I have the OD9 Pro + and it is a great pedal. ALSO would love to see you test some compressors.
I think I'm maybe done with Tube Screamers for a while (I've also shot a comparison of the TS808 and the TS9, which I'm trying to get round to editing).
Compressors are interesting. I just don't know how I feel about them or whether I even care about they do...
I bought Boss Katana because of your videos
I had no idea that the East River Drive was a “screamer”...Noice 👽👍
that riff at 38 seconds in is amazing, do you remember what it is? or what you played?
So fun to hear and watch. This is cinema alright (and I'm mos def going for that Dunes thing)
Xcellent comparison. Brilliant video!
Excellent comparison, guy! Thanks a lot! :D
Great vid as always! I would love to see a video explaining the difference between something like a “blues overdrive” and a “tube screamer “. Also the “what’s the deal with Behringer?” Vid got me curious about them.. apparently their tube screamer is a dead ringer for the fancy ibanez one
'blues overdrives' (like the Boss BD-2 Blues Driver, or pedals based on the Marshall Bluesbreaker) tend to have a flatter EQ curve. The TS has quite a pronounced mid-hump (which I think is really due to cutting out bass and high end, rather than boosting mids so much) so it noticeably changes the guitar's original sound. 'Blues overdrives' will sound more 'transparent' - they don't change the original tone so much, they just add grit and drive.
Love these pedal shootouts
Another great comparison video 👌 I must say the TS808 does tug at the old heart strings ,but I wouldn't be adverse to the East River Drive . I'm lucky enough to own a very early TS9 with the same chip as your 808 reissue & it still sounds wicked after all these years . Interestingly I was told the TS9 was released in '82 , but the serial no.on mine , 166178, makes it '81 ??
MAYBE YOURS IS MAGIC...
Hey man, how are you holding up? You’re the reason I bought the River Drive and I love it!
I come back for this amazing riff from time to time to put a smile on my face, it’s so good❤
Hope you’re doing well🫂
Thanks! I’m doing okay, just not finding the time to get back into doing more of these yet sadly
@@ThePedalBoredHow are you man?
Nice riff... and yes !!! now I know what to buy. That East River was amazing. Couldn´t hear any difference between ERD and the 808.
And the I can get 3 ERD for the same price as a 808 :)
More fantastic playing... love it.
Thank you :)
Funny... This came out right when I got my first TS. Just got it in the mail yesterday. It's a keeley moded TS.
Of the four, as they are, I'd go with the dunes, however, in my opinion, the best TS-style pedal out there is the fulldrive 2.
God job, mate.
Cheers
I think the Full-Drive is based on the Boss SD-1, which is an essentially identical circuit to the Tube Screamer but with asymmetrical clipping (which sounds harsher / better, depending on your preference) instead of symmetrical. Of course the Tube Screamer is actually based on the Boss OD-1, but Ibanez couldn't use asymmetrical clipping because Boss had patented the circuit, so they used symmetrical and added a Tone control, and a much more popular pedal was born.
Great video, mate. Far more entertaining than staring at pedals should be.
That dunes is lovely, but almost unfair for a tubescreamer shootout. The east river drive is identical to the ts808 as far as I can hear, probably the best deal for someone who just wants a stand-alone tubescreamer tone.
Definitely. I was surprised how exact it was.
Great video but how can I stop singing the loop now?.
Also, nice new haircut
Thanks! Haircut??
Awesome video. I don't really care for the Tube Screamer but I like what that Dunes does.
This is once again a great video to understand pedals and sounds. Then also really enjoy the music style, could you tell us which sound playing ?
It's my own composition. Glad you like it!
Best gear demo online, bro. Also lovin' your tone.
About that: how do you achieve that "slight break up" clean tone on the BOSS Katana50?
Thank you, and keep on!
ffbunte Thanks! I think I just had the Volume maxed, and the Gain maybe halfway. (On the 'Clean' setting.)
@@ThePedalBored Which volume? The pre-amp volume or master? And do you generally use the pre-amp as your "master" volume or instead max the pre-amp and use the actual master volume knob to control overall volume? I've heard of people doing both ways, but the way I originally heard it recommended through the grapevine when the Katana series first launched was to max the master volume and use the pre-amp volume knob to control overall level. That's the approach I use with my Katana 100, but I'm curious what others are doing.
Before I buy some pedal, go to the pedal bored to see wich one, very helpful!
And your sick riff !!!
That riff is sick👌👌👌
Love it
Earned another sub. Great vid, now I'm gonna see if you did any delay shoot out vids.
Mike Hoover None yet. But planning to
Well.. I'm subscribed now with notifications on so I'll know when you do. Looking fwd to it. Thanks
East River Drive for me!
Anyone notice the subtle book suggestions with every video? You're brilliant
Thanks! It's my secret fun addition to the world of pedal demos.
Awesome playing! Best reviews ever... a guy can creat a playlist and listen to your music 🤣
Thanks!
Awesome, wonder how the eq plumes holds up against these
Great video! My only criticism is that unity gain looks like 3 o'clock not 9. And I wish you would have told us about the chips used in the clones, are they 4558?
No idea about the chips, but as Brian Wampler will try and tell you, it may not actually matter. th-cam.com/video/PH2uj9bWfM4/w-d-xo.html
The East River Drive does use the JRC4558
@The Pedal Bored yeah, I understand the concept of soft clipping op amps since I made this post, thanks. :)
I never understood the people who say you're not supposed to use it alone or use the gain knob. If you only need the volume get a boost pedal... There are boost pedals with tone controls. Also Eq pedals allow you to sculpt the tone with massive volume boost.
great demo! looking for a screamer style pedal. going with the east river!
The Dunes is a fantastic pedal! I love mine!
And this demo was great as always!
Amazing review man! Congrats
Thank you!
Love me some Tube Screamer content. Through headphones definitely can pick out a lot of the detail in each pedal example. Shame about the Mooer "Hot" setting - doesn't live up to the description. As you said, flabby in the lows. Really disappointing, but I guess being £40-ish you pay for what you get. Still, the standard "warm" mode hit all of the TS gooey goodness.
I love your videos and the aesthetics
I love your comment MORE.
Damn, I just came to see the green mile. You're awesome. Is that loop yours or is it a cover?
It's my own! Glad you like it.
@@ThePedalBored can you provide the tab? ☺️ Thanks
antferr83 Sorry, no idea how to do them! And it’s too long ago now - fallen out of my head :)