Privatization USPS would be a huge blow to re selling on all platforms. Shipping prices would get a lot higher, and the service quality would get even worse. There is no easy fix for this issue because no other businesses can deliver paper mail like USPS, and nobody would want to do that for pennies anyway.
@@ThrifterPicker i don't shop at Walmart. I prefer to shop at places that treat people well. There is also a BIG difference between a cargo trailer and a small package
@@justinyon2324 that's a great idea Biden did that like 6 months ago takes a while to implement especially when they were sidesteping import rules as is
A service guaranteed is in the constitution no less. That is why it exists. That is why it is required to deliver to anyone anywhere on a daily basis. No private company would take that on if they intend to be profitable.
E-vehicles are an initiative of LOSS - major LOSS - One of the contracts the Postal Service signed for this project is worth at least $2.98 billion and is with Oshkosh Corp., a company that had reportedly delivered only 93 of the expected 3,000 vehicles as of November 2024. For the math impaired... that's $1,000,000 per vehicle. Guess that seems like a reasonable spend of our money... especially since they're a "service" - Bro please.🤣🤣🤣
I just don't understand why people - in the comments and in general - can't understand the idea that the post office is a service and not a business. No one is up in arms that their local fire departments "lose" money. No one is up in arms that the Pentagon misplaces millions of dollars a year. Directing one's anger about government waste and excess at USPS just seems so misplaced to me.
Pretty sure plenty of people are up in arms about the Pentagon "misplacing" billions (not millions) of dollars. Fortunately, an audit is coming and it can't be done soon enough.
Even legitimate charities must be run like businesses in order to survive. Since the USPS is part of the Federal government, they can be wantonly mismanaged and accumulate a horrific amount of debt with no consequences.
Love your channel. Privatizing the USPS is a bad idea. I also think prices will rise. Let us not forget two facts: 1. Scavenger Life on more than one occasion said that UPS do not do their pick up because it was out of the way 2. Holiday season of COVID 2020, UPS and FedEx went to their small shippers/retailers and told them how many packages they would take each week. Sometimes it was a lot less packages than the business needed to ship. Where did they ship their packages that UPS/FedEx refused to do, yes the USPS. I know that the mail is being screwed up, it’s those damn sorting machines and Devoy’s giant black hole shipping hubs.
All privatization will do is raise prices and offer fewer services especially to those in rural communities. The only reason USPS operates at a loss is because congress passed a bill in 2006 that required them to pre-fund their pension for 75 years. This was done purposely to make it appear that USPS was mishandling funds so the public would support privatization.
remember it will also allow for other entities other businesses to compete with the USPS which will drive prices down not up. competition is important to get a fair price on some thing. A monopoly on some thing is when the prices can keep going up with no real competition.
@@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop literally any company can compete with USPS right now if they wanted. The reality is nobody can do what they do at their scale for anywhere near the price point. That's why most shipping companies piggy back off of USPS. That's why Amazon uses USPS. Thats why the vast majority of eCommerce goes through USPS. Privatization guarantees higher shipping costs and worse service.
@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop But there is competition currently through UPS and FedEx. Their prices are much higher and they rely on USPS to take packages the final leg in many rural areas they don't operate in. If it were profitable, they would already have routes there. Using this logic, health insurance prices should be going down not up due to private competition yet they are going up and the insurance companies are making huge profits. Do you also believe that firefighters and police should be privatized? Those are other public good services the same as USPS.
"The only reason USPS operates at a loss is because Congress passed a bill requiring them to pre-fund retirement" Yeah we heard that excuse a lot over the years. Meanwhile, back in the real world, that requirement went away 3 years ago when Congress gave USPS $107 billions dollars(even though we're told USPS doesn't get tax dollars). USPS is on pace to lose 10 billion again this year, lol. Never mind they only made the required payment once since the law passed. So much for that excuse.
Congress forces USPS to fully fund all pensions. Other businesses do not do this. Congress can make USPS profitable by taking away that requirement and letting USPS fund pensions like other businesses do. USPS is not a business, it does not exist to make a profit. It exists as a service for the American people. It's akin to the police, fire service, and government, not Nike, Amazon, or FedEx.
This is the factor that typically isn't mentioned as it takes some explanation to understand. If we're judging USPS like a business, then let it play by business rules.
Read "The war against the Postal Service" by the Economic Policy Institute. It is important to understand that the US Postal Service is not a business but a public service
Privatization will mean nothing other than price increases, efficiency measures such as fewer employees, less service, fewer branches and fewer delivery options and locations. Have fun out in the country. You get what you vote for.
Privatization of government services rarely works because the focus becomes profit over public service. But privatization of the postal service would require a constitutional change (Article 1, Sec. 8) and a disregard for the Postal Service Act of 1792 which mandates that postal service is for the public good. Prices will surely go up and not uniformly. As stated, service to remote areas would be severely affected because focus would be on densely populated areas (because of profit margins) and those living in rural or remote areas would be priced out of sending/receiving mail. Not to mention, which private company could do it? UPS and FedEx combined do not come close to the volume USPS currently does. And, while true, the USPS is in need of a major overhaul, removing 711 high-speed sorting machines and not replacing them (2020) and closing offices all in an effort to reduce overhead did nothing to help the efficiency of the post office. The answer is available, we just do not have people in place (regardless of party affiliation) willing to do the work needed. Less regulation with an emphasis on customer service is what I would like to see - not privatization.
Your understanding is incorrect. The pre-funding requirement went away 3 years ago. USPS is still on pace to lose 10 billion this year. Never mind USPS only made the required payment once since the law went into effect, which is exactly why the law was passed in the first place. They knew USPS was promising golden parachute retirement packages they had no intention of paying for.
The high-speed sorting machines were used for sorting letters. As Lonnie stated, letter volume is down by billions. They got rid of machines they no longer needed. They did the same with post offices. The post office in my town that was closed served about five people a day and you could only pay in cash. That location served no purpose and should have been shut down years ago. There are 2 other locations in town people can use.
Thanks for pointing out the unconstitutional aspect to the great constitution protector segment of the public. Fact is it would require a constitutional amendment which is all but impossible.
@WellnessWizdom Thank you for helping me make my point. The removal of the sorting machines and closing of the offices were done solely with the intent of lowering costs to USPS. It may or may not have been needed. But it was not done with the intent to help USPS to become more efficient nor with public good in mind. Simply cutting costs. Imagine if it was privatized. The cost cutting would be good for the bottom line but not for the public good.
The reason why privatizing the mail system doesn't work. It's because if the business is for-profit, they are not going to want to invest or keep investing money in infrastructure that the postal service has that services, a town of 20 to 100 people. They may view that as waste hence. How will those people access medicine, food and other essential items? Now you can say the other private companies will take over, but the costs may be so insane that the people will not be able to afford it. So if they have to have something like a fridge. Or a dishwasher shipped all the way to them inn a small town with USPS $300 may be a lot, but a $1000 from a private company. May be what the person cannot do so I understand why people think it's a good idea but when you step back and look at servicing the country and giving them a right to access to mail and other essentials. A private company is not going to invest money. Trying to make sure 10 people in the trees can get mail and if they're seniors and they can't really drive 2 hours to a city to go get their mail. It's going to cause a lot of harm and you're correct Lonnie. They will cut things that you get now and fight things like insurance claims and of course, the cost would go up to service those clients in the trees in small towns.
@VacationGetaways you don't understand how Amazon free shipping works. Nothing is free. Referral fees Storage fees Fulfillment fees Per-unit fees Per-item fee Subscription fee Closing fee Refund administration fee....... You pay for the shipping you just don't see it in your order the seller does
@@JohnDoe-jz5pr Lol, where did you get that from... Amazon does partner with USPS for some deliveries. "No, most Amazon drivers are not USPS employees, but Amazon does partner with the postal service to deliver packages: Amazon's delivery network Amazon uses its own network of drivers, vans, and contractors to deliver packages"
@@VacationGetaways Gee, I don't know, perhaps 1 of the 5 members of my extended family that works for USPS, or some of the employees at my local USPS that I talk to all the time since they all know me because I got there all the time, or perhaps it was some of the Amazon drivers themselves who told me, who coincidentally are also USPS drivers.
There are definitely challenges to privatizing USPS. If privatized - how many physical Post Offices would they close in tiny towns and force folks to go to the closest "major" town to transact business? Maybe they'd slow service to rural areas to 3x week and non-continental service to once a week? And for that lowering of service it would certainly cost a lot more. It's a sticky place they're in and perhaps a very under-appreciated service we've got now.
I don’t know how anyone would possibly think this is good for anyone. It’s down right scary tbh… the USPS is a service, not a business. It doesn’t lose money… it takes money to run. There is no “red”. What makes it “red” is the GOP making it seem it is losing money, when in reality it is just an expensive service to provide Americans. To lose one of our oldest institutions because of a fundamental misunderstanding on what it is and what it does is crazy to me. The reason the packages are declining is because they are becoming more competitive. I’ve had 1 lbs. packages come up as being cheaper UPS more and more via pirate ship.
And what keeps other shipping companies that are a business low in rates is the USPS prices. With no regulation and being private, we will be paying more.
Even if the USPS "loses" money on paper, one must factor in the financial benefits generated by the increased entrepreneurship the postal service facilitates, the social benefit of dependable medical deliveries and daily check-ins for the elderly, and the fact that it helps level the playing field for rural buyers and sellers.
I'm a rural seller/buyer and USPS sucks here! I can depend on Amazon, UPS and FedEx but not USPS. They aren't dependable at all here in the rural midwest.
@@dadlife5886that's a hilariously bad take considering the vast majority of rural deliveries for Amazon, UPS, and others are delivered by USPS. You likely would not have service to your rural home if the USPS is privatized as it would not be profitable. The USPS also handles more packages than all other carriers combined.
It would kill sellers that sell smalls, it is 50% more to ship with UPS or FedEx on smalls. I would not be in favor of it. USPS loses money but they are at least 90% funded. It might cost every citizen $2-3 bucks a month to have the service, that is a good deal. I bet they could make up a portion of the deficit if they charged 20 cents a box/bag for Priority. People would pay it and then they won't have so many people wasting the supplies. I received an item the other day in a cardboard box, sent GA and it had 5 priority bubble mailers used as filler. I wish they would charge for supplies, like I said 20 cents a bag/box, I'm in... and I send out 200+ priority packages a month. If this happened along with the tariffs he talks about, small business is going to get crushed.
If you're shipping 200 Priority Mail packages a month, you're doing something very wrong considering ground advantage is going to be substantially cheaper in almost every case.
@@WellnessWizdom Many times it comes out to almost the same rate when going to the coast. I sell a ton from Florida to California. I rather it not take 2-3 extra days to get there if I can pay 30-60 cents more for priority. I ships about 600 packages total per month... priority is only 30-35% I ship a lot of stuff that is 8-15 pounds.
Good thing the folks living in rural middle of nowhere towns won’t have to worry if it goes private…Oh wait. Get ready to pony up the cash to UPS or FedEx if you want your items to make it to their final destination.
That's already the case. I know because I am a rural middle of nowhere resident and reseller. USPS has cost me $600 in refunds this month alone with lost shipments. I have to use UPS or FedEx if I want to ensure my items get to my customers.
@ how sustainable do you think it’s going to be if you had to rely solely on UPS and FedEx for these deliveries? $600 in refunds due to USPS errors is nothing in comparison to what you would have to pay if USPS did not exist or was privatized.
I think it will bring more competition and choices right now we don't have very many choices because UPS and FedEx prices are so high really the only choice we have is USPS but if there were 20 different companies across the United States that worked with each other delivering packages to different regions I think that would be interesting. we are also spoiled by the USPS over the years because they have done an outstanding job overall for the American people but in the last 10 to 15 years something has happened that has affected the morale in the post office I don't think the people delivering our mail is receiving all that money that the post office is getting I think there's something going on higher up and if it can't be fixed it needs to be shut down and they need to start over. we would survive believe it or not. 😅
@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop and what happened 8 years ago was dejoy he has been sabotaging it for privatization and he's a CEO of a competiting serice
@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop In 2006 congress passed a law that required USPS to pre-fund their pension for the next 75 years. That is where the money is going. That is the reason USPS is operating at a loss. USPS hasn't been keeping up in terms of pay and benefits and because of that is unable to retain employees. There are also fewer full time positions and many people are unable to live on a part time job.
Privatizing would be a huge mistake. Look what happened when he appointed the current Postmaster General. The prices have continually gone up because Trump placed him in that position to do exactly that. Trump wants it to run like it's a business that turns a profit.
This is gonna run small businesses to the ground. These billionaires do not give a single iota about the working class. And I'm surprised people think otherwise
Privatization will lead to our base shipping line prices rising. If anything usps is the company that drives the others down. Goodbye to competitive shipping prices if they privatize. It’s whatever they want or else we don’t ship it. We will all lose business.
Republicans have been talking about privatizing USPS since at least "2005-2008" that I know of. Thats when I caught wind of it (Bush Jr days) Last week I learned that in 2025 some USPS service (HUBS) will be cut to some rural areas, prolonging delivery in those areas by at least another day. This is one tax service I don't mind paying. But it's slowly being starved out of existence as we know it.
Yeah, prior to Dejoy being hired, the post office was doing a great job. It never lost money, never lost packages, never damaged packages, never delivered mail slowly....
@@dongrant4956 might want to study up. I know you like to blame Trump, but the Postmaster General is appointed by the Board of Governors of the Postal Service, not the President.
Being An Englishman I have no opinion or understanding of the situation with usps all I can say is I wish you all as fellow resellers the best whatever the outcome 😊👍
Privatisation is NEVER a good thing. The company I work for was privatised in 2015 and previously owned by the Australian government. It has been a hell fight ever since. So much bad has happened. The 'for profit' has been a living hell for employees and customers. Price has skyrocketed. Service has disappeared to save money, Staff leave before they start when they get a sniff of how things run. It's just bad bad news. No training, KPIs that are unattainable, extreme cost cutting that affects customers significantly. Constant change in management but yet too much management who don't even understand the basic business model but just manage the profit. Everyone loses. It doesn't surprise me that Trump has suggested this. I know nothing about America but know everything about selling Government owned services and all l can think of is how much suffering it causes.
It's almost always better to fix what we have, rather than burn it down and start over. Making the USPS a private, for profit is a bad idea for so many reasons, as others have already stated.
I used to work for usps. They have been trying to become private for many years. They’ve been self funded for years as well. No government funding at all.
I am VERY OPEN to what President Trump's team can do. I appreciate he is looking into what can be done. There isn't anything wrong in reviewing systems. I've been in many different corporate situations where they always do what they always did. That's sitting on your laurels. IBM was KING until little start-ups like Apple came along for example.
The USPS needs to do away with the priority boxes that they give out for free, I know I know I love free stuff but I don't like our rates for Shipping being so high and you know that plays into it there's no way they can make millions of boxes for free to the public without that impacting the price of shipping for everybody.
@@donnaandrews8112I work at the PO and they do catch people putting stickers over priority boxes. They end up paying postage due fees. It’s not worth the aggravation and they learn.
Hello Lonnie. Here in Canada. We have public postage service available however, it's not subsidized by tax money at all. Because of that are shipping is very expensive. For example to ship a t-shirt, from Toronto to British Columbia. It would be around $20 Canadian or $18 American. The same distance in the United States would be from Ohio to California. The argument is because it's not subsidized you you can see the true price of shipping. If president Trump wants to USPS not subsidized anymore that increase the price of shipping. Because 75% of the cost of shipping and subsidized in the United States due to taxpayer money. So you either have to pay one way or the other or your tax money or pay for higher postage. Which do you choose that's the question.
I like the way you inform and remain neutral without any political opinion. Not sure if anyone else commented, but for those who think Amazon delivery is the answer, be aware that back in 2013 Amazon contracted with USPS to deliver packages for them on Sundays!
Small businesses and towns would be screwed if they were privatized. It's not profitable to deliver mail to someone that lives out in the middle of nowhere, or to keep a post office open in town with less than 10k people. Most sellers on eBay, Poshmark, Etsy etc use the USPS to shipped because it is cheaper than using UPS or Fedex. If they were privatized they would have the charge more to ship stuff including packages and mail. People complain when the price of stamps go up now think about it if a stamp cost $10. The USPS has it problems but privatization is not the solution.
If anyone believes that a private company could do better, just look at the fact that Amazon, UPS, and FedEx will deliver packages via the USPS to many homes outside city limits.
I recently shipped a padded envelope from Florida to Hawaii for a friend. We upgraded to Priority Mail to try and get it there before Christmas. It cost $11 for 14 ounces on Pirate Ship. UPS Ground would have been $31.
The first class mail numbers being so much lower in 2023 will also have to do a lot with people don't want a paper bill in the mail they just get an email.
Royal Mail in the UK is going through the same thing as USPS profits down etc, they have raised their prices for 1st and 2nd class mail and are trying to expand and concentrate on parcels (a bit late now) .There is a buyer who has just got government approval to buy the company but must stick to the same rules as Royal Mail has now. We had loads of privatization in the UK and the government are bailing them out as they loose profits especially the rail system.
If I am privatizing the PO first thing I'm doing is paper mail only gets delivered to your house once a week, the same day as your trash pickup and packages get delivered every day
And yet it literally used to be profitable lol. Further, that's not an excuse to continue losing $10+ billion every year. Forget making a profit, how about just breaking even? Or only losing half a billion a year?
Great topic for discussion. I am curious to see how this unfolds. My husband and I have been selling on eBay for a long time and have seen prices for shipping go up consistently for years, so I'm wondering if they'll really go down or not. I'm in my 50's and haven't normally seen things go down from housing, to food to household items. Hmm, interesting conversation.
Normally, I'm all for privatization. But for USPS it will just not work. Other countries have proved this. We have the best mail system by far. Also, I think Dejoy has done quite a bit of good at USPS, Ground Advantage happened under his watch, and has been a huge blessing to small biz/sellers.
I agree with you about privatizing not working in re the USPS. I respectfully disagree with you on the rest. I think this issue is one of those (seemingly) hard to find issues that both sides can agree on.
why do they always look at the small fish? Even if USPS loses 10b a year, that is a half a percent of the total deficit... not budget but deficit. If you removed them you wouldn't even notice it on the budget.
One of the easiest changes USPS could make is drop Saturday letter mail. There is no real need for it. Their equipment is probably outdated and did not recognize the volume drop from letter mail to packages.
Their equipment is not outdated. I work for the Post office in the Columbus distribution center and can assure you everything's automated. The sheer volume they run is mind boggling
The problem is we’d still have to go out and deliver parcels on Saturday. Our Monday letter volume is already huge. It’s possible though if letter volume continues to drop.
The word is BILLION. With that sort of volume involved Lonnie's right, they can't privatize if services as they are have to be maintained. Meanwhile, every time they jack up rates on Jane Average, Jane cuts back on usage (and paying their bills) - texts and email instead of letters and cards, gift cards instead of boxes. Small businesses use email instead of postal mail. All I get these days are magazines, junk mail, and bills most weeks. This year I mailed 11 Christmas cards with a stamp, only one international. I'm seriously thinking next year will be the last one. I've literally gotten one card back. There's a limit to how far they can raise rates and get used at all; privatizing might close the whole thing down.
it's good to have data, but data alone isn't enough. Have to know the reason for the descrepencies. More employees, less packages is a good thing. Even today they are over burdened with work, imagine the time when there were more packages and fewer employees. There's a reason why they call it "going postal". Also the existence of amazon and other mail carriers means that USPS becomes more specialized in carrying a certain type of mail as opposed to being the only choice for carrying literally everything. There's less junk mail because the nature of advertising has changed
@@shedflips no there getting rid of employees making the employees they have work mandatory overtime with no breaks even on Sundays and the hubs are hugely understaffed
One of the reasons the package shipping is a suck on profit is because Amazon has a sweetheart deal to take their packages to small and rural towns that Amazon can’t service profitably. That should really magnify the issue of money loss when Amazon won’t deliver on their own. USPS really needs to renegotiate that deal as soon as they are able to stop the bleeding.
As a rural out in the middle of nowhere resident and reseller I don't think it could be any worse. I am out $600 just this month alone due to USPS losing packages that I have had to refund. I simply cannot depend on them but then again what can you depend on the federal government for? Everything they get involved in (education, healthcare, etc) turns to crap.
My first instinct was “no”. After hearing the numbers and thinking for a minute, it’s “heck no”. Not everything should be about profit, even in America. This is an essential service that deserves to be subsidized, especially for our territories, Alaska and Hawaii, and people who live in rural areas.
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USPS is the best service by far for business. Their loss problems are at the administrative levels. Our company has used them extensively since 2000. Their actual delivery service is the best. If you privatize them they will collude with UPS and FED EX and basically form a monopoly !!! Keep it like it is and trim at the administration level !!!
It’s the number that makes the difference on the rabbit. Example If they make a limit of 500. The lowest number is always the most expensive . 2/500 will bring more than 498/500. Hope this makes sense and it helps !!
If you have any doubt that what we already have is better than privetized mail system, look at the canadian postal system that just went through a strike. They were shut down for about a month. Ours cant be shut down. What would you do in that case???
There are problems with the mail system for sure. However jumping from the frying pan into the fire is never the answer. You would be giving up another freedom. The right to send junk mail or maybe even repurposed goods. That would control what people are allowed to buy and see. Slippery slope. Forget free packaging of any kind as well!
Theres a video 'Why This Rural Wyoming Town's Mail Was Sent 104 Miles Away' on yt that breaks down some of the recent changes by the post office. Highly recommend.
Lonnie, you use american samoa or a book to alabama, don't forget about walkins. This time of year you'll see a walkin at the post office bring a package and pay the clerk perhaps $20. They go thru all the options, carefully count money from their change purse, then finally get out of there. The clerk they are dealing with likely costs upwards of $100/hour. I've seen people do 5-10 minutes or more. Thats like $8-$16 just for that service. It doesn't give much room for all the other things that happen to that package.
I could be wrong, but I think this same idea came up in the national conversation at least once, maybe twice during his first term, and nothing happened. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
@@rhysxj dejoy is there answer he has been pushing privatization since then slowly making everything worse check out some videos on the regional hubs or more perfect unions coverage
Privatization means it's all about profit. Higher prices for less service when there is no direct competition (items under a pound). Don't get me wrong, it's obviously not working the way it is, with pricing constantly going up anyway, and we can certainly see how this is one of the worst USPS holiday seasons that I can remember. I don't know if anyone has the answer.
@@inittoflipit2052 answer is dejoy has been killing the post office get rid of him before the new mega regional hubs witch are super understaffed it was fine
As others have noted, this will end up hurting his rural fanboys more than the city dwellers. USPS is a public service for a reason. It's not profitable for UPS or Fedex to deliver mail out into the countryside. I'm so tired of Trump already, and he hasn't even begun his term yet.
Between this and tariffs, people in rural areas are going to suffer hard in the next 4 years. It's sad that people just don't understand what they are voting for.
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I can tell you this. As someone who has worked in the "private" area in upper management for 20 years, privatizing USPS will ruin the USPS. Anyone who complains about usps pricing now, will no longer sell online. There is a ton that goes into it. For people that don't know how things work may like the idea until it happens. You can't inflate pricing when nobody owns it.
I think that generally a private company can do something more efficiently than a government entity. That being said, this is a complicated system and therefore a complicated fix! Side note - Candace, your hair is super cute!
Even though this did drive UPS and Fedex prices down, I think USPS should stop trying to compete with UPS and FedEx, like a few years ago everything over 1lb had to go Priority which made UPS/FedEx almost always a cheaper option. I see 1 of 2 options, Option 1 is to privatize it and the Government keeps in place the universal service obligation to everwho takes over, because I feel under the right management it would be a profitable business. Option 2 is to not privatize but strip away all the package services and just be a letter delivery service and continue to operate at a loss, but maybe the loss would be lower. Also, they need to cancel all the contracts with companies like TEMU, etc. allowing them to ship from China at a fraction of the cost. How much is that adding to it's loss? My guess is it would be a fairly large percentage.
as with any business if you can't handle the extra business it should be referred out to another company to help. You don't just keep accepting orders that you can't fulfill. and the USPS having billions more packages to deliver also means they have billions more money to support the services to deliver those packages. This is a total mismanagement of funds at the top.
This isn't even an anti- Trump take, I just don't think privatization of the USPS would benefit us at all. I just see the USPS as a service. The money they make helps to offset the cost of the service. I do understand the other side of the argument though.
Overall, the last couple of decades has been characterized by our government prioritizing serving and SAVING subpar corporations - instead of letting them fend for themselves and openly competing, policies have strengthened quasi-monopolies - so instead of bad companies, corporations, and services being outcompeted, our country has sustained and helped create a terrible corporate landscape littered with trash private entities that syphon billions to individuals. Imagine if those resources were instead directed to funding SERVICES (such as the USPS). Instead of being seen as a business - which it is not - imagine if they had better sorting machines, better collection points, better transportation, etc... decades of wasted opportunities to sustain a functioning service, instead of putting a leech like DeJoy in charge to bleed the USPS dry, in order to replace it with a private entity that will cut services, raise prices, and lower the quality of life for their workers. Privatization advocates never put their money where their mouth is - they use corporate welfare.
That would be unconstitutional. The USPS took over the responsibility for The United States Post Office. The constitution guarantees us two things from the government… A Navy and a post office. Unless he is going to reinstate the post office he can’t legally privatize the postal service.
No free boxes for people to line their pet cages with or use them for packing material. I lost my respect for postal employees when I moved to a rural area never have I seen such incompetence. When I put my flag up they will not stop that day unless I am receiving mail. I sold a vhs tape sent media mail the guy at the post office accepted it turned around yelled to people in the back room "media mail" then threw it about 30 feet to a bin. I could go on and on but I won't. I will say this I respect your channel for bringing up a subject that can ruffle feathers. Go job!
Privatization USPS would be a huge blow to re selling on all platforms. Shipping prices would get a lot higher, and the service quality would get even worse. There is no easy fix for this issue because no other businesses can deliver paper mail like USPS, and nobody would want to do that for pennies anyway.
And without USPS low cost for packages other carriers would charge even more!
Exactly !!!!❤
Stop allowing china to ship here cheaper than we can ship across the street. Make your money that way.
Yes,yes!
That’s the reason we pay so little for goods at Walmart. If it costs more for china to ship it here, we will pay Sam’s Fifth Ave prices.
@@ThrifterPicker i don't shop at Walmart. I prefer to shop at places that treat people well. There is also a BIG difference between a cargo trailer and a small package
@@justinyon2324 that's a great idea Biden did that like 6 months ago takes a while to implement especially when they were sidesteping import rules as is
YES!
Privatization would end rural mail service. USPS is a service not a business.
A service guaranteed is in the constitution no less. That is why it exists. That is why it is required to deliver to anyone anywhere on a daily basis. No private company would take that on if they intend to be profitable.
In case you've missed it, America believes in capitalism. If you want a "service", move to China.
If it happens, you could wave goodbye to your ebay shipping discounts.
This is a horrible idea lol
The USPS is a service not a business. Privatization will only increase prices and cut services.
So basically nothing will change. Prices go up 3-4 times a year now without being privatized lol.
@@WellnessWizdom lol. Service will get worse. lol. Yes things will get significantly worse. lol.
E-vehicles are an initiative of LOSS - major LOSS - One of the contracts the Postal Service signed for this project is worth at least $2.98 billion and is with Oshkosh Corp., a company that had reportedly delivered only 93 of the expected 3,000 vehicles as of November 2024. For the math impaired... that's $1,000,000 per vehicle. Guess that seems like a reasonable spend of our money... especially since they're a "service" - Bro please.🤣🤣🤣
It is in the constitution that the Post Office will remain a government entity. Besides it was fine until that idiot DeJoy got in
@@WellnessWizdomyou don't know what you're talking about lol
I just don't understand why people - in the comments and in general - can't understand the idea that the post office is a service and not a business. No one is up in arms that their local fire departments "lose" money. No one is up in arms that the Pentagon misplaces millions of dollars a year. Directing one's anger about government waste and excess at USPS just seems so misplaced to me.
They need to think of it as it costs X amount of dollars to run instead of it loses X amount of dollars
Pretty sure plenty of people are up in arms about the Pentagon "misplacing" billions (not millions) of dollars. Fortunately, an audit is coming and it can't be done soon enough.
Even legitimate charities must be run like businesses in order to survive. Since the USPS is part of the Federal government, they can be wantonly mismanaged and accumulate a horrific amount of debt with no consequences.
Love your channel. Privatizing the USPS is a bad idea. I also think prices will rise. Let us not forget two facts:
1. Scavenger Life on more than one occasion said that UPS do not do their pick up because it was out of the way
2. Holiday season of COVID 2020, UPS and FedEx went to their small shippers/retailers and told them how many packages they would take each week. Sometimes it was a lot less packages than the business needed to ship. Where did they ship their packages that UPS/FedEx refused to do, yes the USPS.
I know that the mail is being screwed up, it’s those damn sorting machines and Devoy’s giant black hole shipping hubs.
Look at what has happened in the UK since the privatisation of Royal Mail. Prices have soared and service is terrible
Same as the usps now...
@@deronforeman1764The cost to mail a letter in the UK is over $2. So shut up.
All privatization will do is raise prices and offer fewer services especially to those in rural communities. The only reason USPS operates at a loss is because congress passed a bill in 2006 that required them to pre-fund their pension for 75 years. This was done purposely to make it appear that USPS was mishandling funds so the public would support privatization.
remember it will also allow for other entities other businesses to compete with the USPS which will drive prices down not up. competition is important to get a fair price on some thing. A monopoly on some thing is when the prices can keep going up with no real competition.
@@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop literally any company can compete with USPS right now if they wanted. The reality is nobody can do what they do at their scale for anywhere near the price point. That's why most shipping companies piggy back off of USPS. That's why Amazon uses USPS. Thats why the vast majority of eCommerce goes through USPS. Privatization guarantees higher shipping costs and worse service.
@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop But there is competition currently through UPS and FedEx. Their prices are much higher and they rely on USPS to take packages the final leg in many rural areas they don't operate in. If it were profitable, they would already have routes there. Using this logic, health insurance prices should be going down not up due to private competition yet they are going up and the insurance companies are making huge profits. Do you also believe that firefighters and police should be privatized? Those are other public good services the same as USPS.
"The only reason USPS operates at a loss is because Congress passed a bill requiring them to pre-fund retirement"
Yeah we heard that excuse a lot over the years. Meanwhile, back in the real world, that requirement went away 3 years ago when Congress gave USPS $107 billions dollars(even though we're told USPS doesn't get tax dollars). USPS is on pace to lose 10 billion again this year, lol. Never mind they only made the required payment once since the law passed.
So much for that excuse.
@@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShopit will allow for 1 company to control ALL forms of mail.
Get Dejoy out of there...
DeJoy wants to treat it like a private company.
I've called him Da Killjoy for a long time. He takes the joy out of everything.
Unfortunately he has to be voted out by the board . Otherwise he would of been gone a long time ago
Just look at the prison system if you want to see how privatized federal programs run. Horrible. Someone please show me when this has ever worked.
Or healthcare :(
Here in the UK the Royal Mail has just been sold by our "government" to a Czech billionaire. Worrying times for all.
Congress forces USPS to fully fund all pensions. Other businesses do not do this. Congress can make USPS profitable by taking away that requirement and letting USPS fund pensions like other businesses do.
USPS is not a business, it does not exist to make a profit. It exists as a service for the American people. It's akin to the police, fire service, and government, not Nike, Amazon, or FedEx.
YES! Thank you!
This is the factor that typically isn't mentioned as it takes some explanation to understand. If we're judging USPS like a business, then let it play by business rules.
Read "The war against the Postal Service" by the Economic Policy Institute. It is important to understand that the US Postal Service is not a business but a public service
@@kriswager dejoy has done nothing but hurt it was hoping he would be fired
@@trueheart1372
Yes, USPS was doing great before Dejoy came along.
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"USPS is a service not a business"
So that means it's okay to be fiscally irresponsible and lose $10 billion a year unnecessarily?
Technically it very much is a public service, but horribly run.
Privatization will mean nothing other than price increases, efficiency measures such as fewer employees, less service, fewer branches and fewer delivery options and locations. Have fun out in the country. You get what you vote for.
It would be the worst idea I have ever heard.
Privatization of government services rarely works because the focus becomes profit over public service. But privatization of the postal service would require a constitutional change (Article 1, Sec. 8) and a disregard for the Postal Service Act of 1792 which mandates that postal service is for the public good. Prices will surely go up and not uniformly. As stated, service to remote areas would be severely affected because focus would be on densely populated areas (because of profit margins) and those living in rural or remote areas would be priced out of sending/receiving mail. Not to mention, which private company could do it? UPS and FedEx combined do not come close to the volume USPS currently does. And, while true, the USPS is in need of a major overhaul, removing 711 high-speed sorting machines and not replacing them (2020) and closing offices all in an effort to reduce overhead did nothing to help the efficiency of the post office. The answer is available, we just do not have people in place (regardless of party affiliation) willing to do the work needed. Less regulation with an emphasis on customer service is what I would like to see - not privatization.
Your understanding is incorrect. The pre-funding requirement went away 3 years ago. USPS is still on pace to lose 10 billion this year. Never mind USPS only made the required payment once since the law went into effect, which is exactly why the law was passed in the first place. They knew USPS was promising golden parachute retirement packages they had no intention of paying for.
The high-speed sorting machines were used for sorting letters. As Lonnie stated, letter volume is down by billions. They got rid of machines they no longer needed.
They did the same with post offices. The post office in my town that was closed served about five people a day and you could only pay in cash. That location served no purpose and should have been shut down years ago. There are 2 other locations in town people can use.
Thanks for pointing out the unconstitutional aspect to the great constitution protector segment of the public. Fact is it would require a constitutional amendment which is all but impossible.
@WellnessWizdom Thank you for helping me make my point. The removal of the sorting machines and closing of the offices were done solely with the intent of lowering costs to USPS. It may or may not have been needed. But it was not done with the intent to help USPS to become more efficient nor with public good in mind. Simply cutting costs. Imagine if it was privatized. The cost cutting would be good for the bottom line but not for the public good.
@@WellnessWizdom while what you say is true the new hubs can't handle the volume on slowest day of the year there understaffed dejoy is not helping
Prices will go through the roof! Check US vs. other countries.
Then why can I ship a golf club cheaper using UPS or FedEx?
The reason why privatizing the mail system doesn't work. It's because if the business is for-profit, they are not going to want to invest or keep investing money in infrastructure that the postal service has that services, a town of 20 to 100 people. They may view that as waste hence. How will those people access medicine, food and other essential items? Now you can say the other private companies will take over, but the costs may be so insane that the people will not be able to afford it. So if they have to have something like a fridge. Or a dishwasher shipped all the way to them inn a small town with USPS $300 may be a lot, but a $1000 from a private company. May be what the person cannot do so I understand why people think it's a good idea but when you step back and look at servicing the country and giving them a right to access to mail and other essentials. A private company is not going to invest money. Trying to make sure 10 people in the trees can get mail and if they're seniors and they can't really drive 2 hours to a city to go get their mail. It's going to cause a lot of harm and you're correct Lonnie. They will cut things that you get now and fight things like insurance claims and of course, the cost would go up to service those clients in the trees in small towns.
"They can't drive 2 hours to get their mail."
But they can drive 2 hours to a doctor to get a prescription.😂
A town with 100 people shouldn't have it's own post office in my opinion. That's a gross waste of funds
@@attackbuttongaming most don't have a post office not a stand alone one anyway. but they still get mail delivered.
If the postal service is privatized I can see our mailboxes be a subscription. If we don't pay for it they won't deliver anything to you.
If you think shipping is expensive now, if it becomes private I cannot imagine how much it would cost for the private company to make their profit.
Making usps private will virtually end online sales under $100. no one is going to be buying a $10 item and spend $20 on shipping
We do it everyday with Amazon and get free shiping.
@VacationGetaways you don't understand how Amazon free shipping works. Nothing is free. Referral fees Storage fees Fulfillment fees Per-unit fees Per-item fee Subscription fee Closing fee Refund administration fee....... You pay for the shipping you just don't see it in your order the seller does
@@VacationGetaways That is because the federal government is subsidizing Amazon and most Amazon drivers are USPS employees.
@@JohnDoe-jz5pr Lol, where did you get that from... Amazon does partner with USPS for some deliveries. "No, most Amazon drivers are not USPS employees, but Amazon does partner with the postal service to deliver packages:
Amazon's delivery network
Amazon uses its own network of drivers, vans, and contractors to deliver packages"
@@VacationGetaways Gee, I don't know, perhaps 1 of the 5 members of my extended family that works for USPS, or some of the employees at my local USPS that I talk to all the time since they all know me because I got there all the time, or perhaps it was some of the Amazon drivers themselves who told me, who coincidentally are also USPS drivers.
There are definitely challenges to privatizing USPS. If privatized - how many physical Post Offices would they close in tiny towns and force folks to go to the closest "major" town to transact business? Maybe they'd slow service to rural areas to 3x week and non-continental service to once a week? And for that lowering of service it would certainly cost a lot more. It's a sticky place they're in and perhaps a very under-appreciated service we've got now.
I don’t know how anyone would possibly think this is good for anyone. It’s down right scary tbh… the USPS is a service, not a business. It doesn’t lose money… it takes money to run. There is no “red”. What makes it “red” is the GOP making it seem it is losing money, when in reality it is just an expensive service to provide Americans. To lose one of our oldest institutions because of a fundamental misunderstanding on what it is and what it does is crazy to me. The reason the packages are declining is because they are becoming more competitive. I’ve had 1 lbs. packages come up as being cheaper UPS more and more via pirate ship.
And what keeps other shipping companies that are a business low in rates is the USPS prices. With no regulation and being private, we will be paying more.
Even if the USPS "loses" money on paper, one must factor in the financial benefits generated by the increased entrepreneurship the postal service facilitates, the social benefit of dependable medical deliveries and daily check-ins for the elderly, and the fact that it helps level the playing field for rural buyers and sellers.
I'm a rural seller/buyer and USPS sucks here! I can depend on Amazon, UPS and FedEx but not USPS. They aren't dependable at all here in the rural midwest.
@@dadlife5886that's a hilariously bad take considering the vast majority of rural deliveries for Amazon, UPS, and others are delivered by USPS. You likely would not have service to your rural home if the USPS is privatized as it would not be profitable. The USPS also handles more packages than all other carriers combined.
It would kill sellers that sell smalls, it is 50% more to ship with UPS or FedEx on smalls. I would not be in favor of it. USPS loses money but they are at least 90% funded. It might cost every citizen $2-3 bucks a month to have the service, that is a good deal. I bet they could make up a portion of the deficit if they charged 20 cents a box/bag for Priority. People would pay it and then they won't have so many people wasting the supplies. I received an item the other day in a cardboard box, sent GA and it had 5 priority bubble mailers used as filler. I wish they would charge for supplies, like I said 20 cents a bag/box, I'm in... and I send out 200+ priority packages a month. If this happened along with the tariffs he talks about, small business is going to get crushed.
If you're shipping 200 Priority Mail packages a month, you're doing something very wrong considering ground advantage is going to be substantially cheaper in almost every case.
@@WellnessWizdom Many times it comes out to almost the same rate when going to the coast. I sell a ton from Florida to California. I rather it not take 2-3 extra days to get there if I can pay 30-60 cents more for priority. I ships about 600 packages total per month... priority is only 30-35% I ship a lot of stuff that is 8-15 pounds.
Good thing the folks living in rural middle of nowhere towns won’t have to worry if it goes private…Oh wait. Get ready to pony up the cash to UPS or FedEx if you want your items to make it to their final destination.
That's already the case. I know because I am a rural middle of nowhere resident and reseller. USPS has cost me $600 in refunds this month alone with lost shipments. I have to use UPS or FedEx if I want to ensure my items get to my customers.
@ how sustainable do you think it’s going to be if you had to rely solely on UPS and FedEx for these deliveries? $600 in refunds due to USPS errors is nothing in comparison to what you would have to pay if USPS did not exist or was privatized.
You will triple the cost and ups and fed ex will raise costs bec less competition also dejoy had been changing to cause less effective service
Dejoy is closing post officess for regional hubs that slow everything down
Pls check out more perfect union post office unions coverage
I think it will bring more competition and choices right now we don't have very many choices because UPS and FedEx prices are so high really the only choice we have is USPS but if there were 20 different companies across the United States that worked with each other delivering packages to different regions I think that would be interesting. we are also spoiled by the USPS over the years because they have done an outstanding job overall for the American people but in the last 10 to 15 years something has happened that has affected the morale in the post office I don't think the people delivering our mail is receiving all that money that the post office is getting I think there's something going on higher up and if it can't be fixed it needs to be shut down and they need to start over. we would survive believe it or not. 😅
@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop and what happened 8 years ago was dejoy he has been sabotaging it for privatization and he's a CEO of a competiting serice
@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop In 2006 congress passed a law that required USPS to pre-fund their pension for the next 75 years. That is where the money is going. That is the reason USPS is operating at a loss. USPS hasn't been keeping up in terms of pay and benefits and because of that is unable to retain employees. There are also fewer full time positions and many people are unable to live on a part time job.
Privatizing would be a huge mistake. Look what happened when he appointed the current Postmaster General. The prices have continually gone up because Trump placed him in that position to do exactly that. Trump wants it to run like it's a business that turns a profit.
This is gonna run small businesses to the ground. These billionaires do not give a single iota about the working class. And I'm surprised people think otherwise
UPS just arrested 4 workers for stealing Christmas packages and reselling them.
And?
@@WellnessWizdom.....and in case you missed it that happened in a for profit competitor company!!!!!!
Privatization will lead to our base shipping line prices rising. If anything usps is the company that drives the others down. Goodbye to competitive shipping prices if they privatize. It’s whatever they want or else we don’t ship it. We will all lose business.
Republicans have been talking about privatizing USPS since at least "2005-2008" that I know of. Thats when I caught wind of it (Bush Jr days) Last week I learned that in 2025 some USPS service (HUBS) will be cut to some rural areas, prolonging delivery in those areas by at least another day. This is one tax service I don't mind paying. But it's slowly being starved out of existence as we know it.
USPS is screwed up now because of his appointment of Dejoy in his first term!
Yeah, prior to Dejoy being hired, the post office was doing a great job. It never lost money, never lost packages, never damaged packages, never delivered mail slowly....
Yeah the guy trump put in and one of his best donors. Who could have seen this coming? Hmmm....
@@dongrant4956 might want to study up. I know you like to blame Trump, but the Postmaster General is appointed by the Board of Governors of the Postal Service, not the President.
Give me a break. The usps has always been a mess.
What you are not telling is he put his people on that board so he could put Dejoy in. All about loyalists!@@dadlife5886
Being An Englishman I have no opinion or understanding of the situation with usps all I can say is I wish you all as fellow resellers the best whatever the outcome 😊👍
Privatisation is NEVER a good thing. The company I work for was privatised in 2015 and previously owned by the Australian government. It has been a hell fight ever since. So much bad has happened. The 'for profit' has been a living hell for employees and customers. Price has skyrocketed. Service has disappeared to save money, Staff leave before they start when they get a sniff of how things run. It's just bad bad news. No training, KPIs that are unattainable, extreme cost cutting that affects customers significantly. Constant change in management but yet too much management who don't even understand the basic business model but just manage the profit. Everyone loses. It doesn't surprise me that Trump has suggested this. I know nothing about America but know everything about selling Government owned services and all l can think of is how much suffering it causes.
I worked for the post office for 36 years. I have been hearing this for at least 20 years!
it usps goes private. the priceses are going to sky rocket.... this is a branch of governtment we are talking about here
all i can say is get rid of dejoy and absolutely do not privatize, they are just trying to rig the game
From the UK, our service has declined price increases are ridiculous, junk mail is endless..
Scary for small bussines 😢
Name one thing that the government has their hands in that runs efficiently.
It's almost always better to fix what we have, rather than burn it down and start over. Making the USPS a private, for profit is a bad idea for so many reasons, as others have already stated.
I used to work for usps. They have been trying to become private for many years. They’ve been self funded for years as well. No government funding at all.
Well...this is going to go as good as his casinos.
I am VERY OPEN to what President Trump's team can do. I appreciate he is looking into what can be done. There isn't anything wrong in reviewing systems. I've been in many different corporate situations where they always do what they always did. That's sitting on your laurels. IBM was KING until little start-ups like Apple came along for example.
The USPS needs to do away with the priority boxes that they give out for free, I know I know I love free stuff but I don't like our rates for Shipping being so high and you know that plays into it there's no way they can make millions of boxes for free to the public without that impacting the price of shipping for everybody.
The cost of those boxes is built into the priority rates to ship them!
Maybe get rid of free priority boxes but have a flat fee priority box only?
Maybe actually fine the people who use those boxes illegally, ie putting them in a poly bag and paying Ground Advantage prices
@@donnaandrews8112I work at the PO and they do catch people putting stickers over priority boxes. They end up paying postage due fees. It’s not worth the aggravation and they learn.
Hello Lonnie. Here in Canada. We have public postage service available however, it's not subsidized by tax money at all. Because of that are shipping is very expensive. For example to ship a t-shirt, from Toronto to British Columbia. It would be around $20 Canadian or $18 American. The same distance in the United States would be from Ohio to California. The argument is because it's not subsidized you you can see the true price of shipping. If president Trump wants to USPS not subsidized anymore that increase the price of shipping. Because 75% of the cost of shipping and subsidized in the United States due to taxpayer money. So you either have to pay one way or the other or your tax money or pay for higher postage. Which do you choose that's the question.
Also on your chart I'd like to see a comparison of administrative personnel vs letter carriers.
A Republican is in charge already. Get after the Postmaster General.
I like the way you inform and remain neutral without any political opinion. Not sure if anyone else commented, but for those who think Amazon delivery is the answer, be aware that back in 2013 Amazon contracted with USPS to deliver packages for them on Sundays!
Small businesses and towns would be screwed if they were privatized. It's not profitable to deliver mail to someone that lives out in the middle of nowhere, or to keep a post office open in town with less than 10k people. Most sellers on eBay, Poshmark, Etsy etc use the USPS to shipped because it is cheaper than using UPS or Fedex. If they were privatized they would have the charge more to ship stuff including packages and mail. People complain when the price of stamps go up now think about it if a stamp cost $10. The USPS has it problems but privatization is not the solution.
Exactly. Don’t know why people don’t understand.
Will most likely kill media mail and ground advantage (first class)
If anyone believes that a private company could do better, just look at the fact that Amazon, UPS, and FedEx will deliver packages via the USPS to many homes outside city limits.
I recently shipped a padded envelope from Florida to Hawaii for a friend. We upgraded to Priority Mail to try and get it there before Christmas. It cost $11 for 14 ounces on Pirate Ship. UPS Ground would have been $31.
Dejoy needs to go AND the USPS should eliminate all non-mail services like passports, etc. Great video, thank you!
The first class mail numbers being so much lower in 2023 will also have to do a lot with people don't want a paper bill in the mail they just get an email.
That and direct deposit for pay and SSI etc. Also, email in general. And magazines on e-readers, etc. Snail mail needs to come back!
Thank you for this video!! Very good information
Royal Mail in the UK is going through the same thing as USPS profits down etc, they have raised their prices for 1st and 2nd class mail and are trying to expand and concentrate on parcels (a bit late now) .There is a buyer who has just got government approval to buy the company but must stick to the same rules as Royal Mail has now. We had loads of privatization in the UK and the government are bailing them out as they loose profits especially the rail system.
Bail outs....I can see the USPS going private and the next year a HUGE bail out. And every year after that.
If I am privatizing the PO first thing I'm doing is paper mail only gets delivered to your house once a week, the same day as your trash pickup and packages get delivered every day
USPS wasn't created to be a profitable business!
And yet it literally used to be profitable lol.
Further, that's not an excuse to continue losing $10+ billion every year. Forget making a profit, how about just breaking even? Or only losing half a billion a year?
@@WellnessWizdomhow much does the department of offence lose?
Great topic for discussion. I am curious to see how this unfolds. My husband and I have been selling on eBay for a long time and have seen prices for shipping go up consistently for years, so I'm wondering if they'll really go down or not. I'm in my 50's and haven't normally seen things go down from housing, to food to household items. Hmm, interesting conversation.
Things always go up but almost never go down. You should all be used to it by now.
Normally, I'm all for privatization. But for USPS it will just not work. Other countries have proved this. We have the best mail system by far. Also, I think Dejoy has done quite a bit of good at USPS, Ground Advantage happened under his watch, and has been a huge blessing to small biz/sellers.
I agree with you about privatizing not working in re the USPS. I respectfully disagree with you on the rest. I think this issue is one of those (seemingly) hard to find issues that both sides can agree on.
USPS delivers our Amazon packages since the whole community complained so much about them not delivering them correctly. So that won't work lol
If you want to see what happens when things are privatized just look at for profit jails and for profit hospitals.
Guys, we should REALLY privatize shipping services, it worked GREAT with healthcare! Signed - *NOT a Shipping Provider CEO*
The Healthcare system is 10 times worse !!!
why do they always look at the small fish? Even if USPS loses 10b a year, that is a half a percent of the total deficit... not budget but deficit. If you removed them you wouldn't even notice it on the budget.
Less government is always a plus for me.
One of the easiest changes USPS could make is drop Saturday letter mail. There is no real need for it. Their equipment is probably outdated and did not recognize the volume drop from letter mail to packages.
Their equipment is not outdated. I work for the Post office in the Columbus distribution center and can assure you everything's automated. The sheer volume they run is mind boggling
The problem is we’d still have to go out and deliver parcels on Saturday. Our Monday letter volume is already huge. It’s possible though if letter volume continues to drop.
The word is BILLION. With that sort of volume involved Lonnie's right, they can't privatize if services as they are have to be maintained. Meanwhile, every time they jack up rates on Jane Average, Jane cuts back on usage (and paying their bills) - texts and email instead of letters and cards, gift cards instead of boxes. Small businesses use email instead of postal mail. All I get these days are magazines, junk mail, and bills most weeks. This year I mailed 11 Christmas cards with a stamp, only one international. I'm seriously thinking next year will be the last one. I've literally gotten one card back. There's a limit to how far they can raise rates and get used at all; privatizing might close the whole thing down.
it's good to have data, but data alone isn't enough. Have to know the reason for the descrepencies. More employees, less packages is a good thing. Even today they are over burdened with work, imagine the time when there were more packages and fewer employees. There's a reason why they call it "going postal". Also the existence of amazon and other mail carriers means that USPS becomes more specialized in carrying a certain type of mail as opposed to being the only choice for carrying literally everything. There's less junk mail because the nature of advertising has changed
None of that is the reason for the term "going postal".
To be clear, it’s more employees, fewer total mailpieces but nearly double the packages.
@@shedflips no there getting rid of employees making the employees they have work mandatory overtime with no breaks even on Sundays and the hubs are hugely understaffed
@@shedflips pls watch more perfect unions coverage
One of the reasons the package shipping is a suck on profit is because Amazon has a sweetheart deal to take their packages to small and rural towns that Amazon can’t service profitably. That should really magnify the issue of money loss when Amazon won’t deliver on their own. USPS really needs to renegotiate that deal as soon as they are able to stop the bleeding.
As a rural out in the middle of nowhere resident and reseller I don't think it could be any worse. I am out $600 just this month alone due to USPS losing packages that I have had to refund. I simply cannot depend on them but then again what can you depend on the federal government for? Everything they get involved in (education, healthcare, etc) turns to crap.
My first instinct was “no”. After hearing the numbers and thinking for a minute, it’s “heck no”. Not everything should be about profit, even in America. This is an essential service that deserves to be subsidized, especially for our territories, Alaska and Hawaii, and people who live in rural areas.
Looks like the territories are already being treated as foreign countries.
USPS is required by law to operate like a business and generate its revenue. It does not regularly receive federal funding for its operations.
We subsidize all foreign postage to the US. There is no reason that has to continue.
Good analysis, Lonnie.
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"You're telling me they shipped this banana from south America to Midwest, USA, just to sell it to me for 40 cents? No way that's profitable"
USPS is the best service by far for business. Their loss problems are at the administrative levels. Our company has used them extensively since 2000. Their actual delivery service is the best. If you privatize them they will collude with UPS and FED EX and basically form a monopoly !!! Keep it like it is and trim at the administration level !!!
It’s the number that makes the difference on the rabbit. Example
If they make a limit of 500. The lowest number is always the most expensive . 2/500 will bring more than 498/500. Hope this makes sense and it helps !!
If you have any doubt that what we already have is better than privetized mail system, look at the canadian postal system that just went through a strike. They were shut down for about a month. Ours cant be shut down. What would you do in that case???
There are problems with the mail system for sure. However jumping from the frying pan into the fire is never the answer. You would be giving up another freedom. The right to send junk mail or maybe even repurposed goods. That would control what people are allowed to buy and see. Slippery slope. Forget free packaging of any kind as well!
Theres a video 'Why This Rural Wyoming Town's Mail Was Sent 104 Miles Away' on yt that breaks down some of the recent changes by the post office. Highly recommend.
@@OneCheapEric more perfect union and a Colorado news station have good videos also Georgia news I watch had one also
Lonnie, you use american samoa or a book to alabama, don't forget about walkins. This time of year you'll see a walkin at the post office bring a package and pay the clerk perhaps $20. They go thru all the options, carefully count money from their change purse, then finally get out of there. The clerk they are dealing with likely costs upwards of $100/hour. I've seen people do 5-10 minutes or more. Thats like $8-$16 just for that service. It doesn't give much room for all the other things that happen to that package.
I could be wrong, but I think this same idea came up in the national conversation at least once, maybe twice during his first term, and nothing happened. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
@@rhysxj dejoy is there answer he has been pushing privatization since then slowly making everything worse check out some videos on the regional hubs or more perfect unions coverage
You're not wrong. This issue is revisited during every Republican term since separating from the gov't in 1970.
@sammonicuslux during every term Bec democrats rarely change post master generals same for FBI and other departments Bec there supposedly bi partisan
Privatization means it's all about profit. Higher prices for less service when there is no direct competition (items under a pound). Don't get me wrong, it's obviously not working the way it is, with pricing constantly going up anyway, and we can certainly see how this is one of the worst USPS holiday seasons that I can remember. I don't know if anyone has the answer.
@@inittoflipit2052 answer is dejoy has been killing the post office get rid of him before the new mega regional hubs witch are super understaffed it was fine
100% USPS don't need to go private it just need better leadership.
Fix the economy and USPS will thrive !!!
As others have noted, this will end up hurting his rural fanboys more than the city dwellers. USPS is a public service for a reason. It's not profitable for UPS or Fedex to deliver mail out into the countryside. I'm so tired of Trump already, and he hasn't even begun his term yet.
You'll get over it. If we can deal with 4 years of disaster under Dementia Joe, you can deal with 4 years of prosperity from Trump.
Between this and tariffs, people in rural areas are going to suffer hard in the next 4 years. It's sad that people just don't understand what they are voting for.
@@donin99 yeah I been trying to get people to vote but all they see is the lies
But but... the lady has a funny laugh and my groceries went up in price! Orange man said he'll make grocery prices go down! Orange man wouldn't lie, after all he's never run multiple casinos into the ground.......
@kibble-net lol kick out the farm workers and groceries don't get picked lol
Problem is neither side has a candidate worth our votes! The only change we ever get is change none of us(except the elite) want!
@dongrant4956 so you will hurt yourself over a canadite were supposed to inspire them if we won't vote they can't cater to you
I can tell you this. As someone who has worked in the "private" area in upper management for 20 years, privatizing USPS will ruin the USPS. Anyone who complains about usps pricing now, will no longer sell online. There is a ton that goes into it. For people that don't know how things work may like the idea until it happens. You can't inflate pricing when nobody owns it.
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I think that generally a private company can do something more efficiently than a government entity. That being said, this is a complicated system and therefore a complicated fix! Side note - Candace, your hair is super cute!
That Mardi Gras poster is rockin'!
Even though this did drive UPS and Fedex prices down, I think USPS should stop trying to compete with UPS and FedEx, like a few years ago everything over 1lb had to go Priority which made UPS/FedEx almost always a cheaper option. I see 1 of 2 options, Option 1 is to privatize it and the Government keeps in place the universal service obligation to everwho takes over, because I feel under the right management it would be a profitable business. Option 2 is to not privatize but strip away all the package services and just be a letter delivery service and continue to operate at a loss, but maybe the loss would be lower. Also, they need to cancel all the contracts with companies like TEMU, etc. allowing them to ship from China at a fraction of the cost. How much is that adding to it's loss? My guess is it would be a fairly large percentage.
as with any business if you can't handle the extra business it should be referred out to another company to help. You don't just keep accepting orders that you can't fulfill. and the USPS having billions more packages to deliver also means they have billions more money to support the services to deliver those packages. This is a total mismanagement of funds at the top.
@@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop dejoy made huge mega regional hubs and understaffed everything he is for privatization
@@MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop also we do contract out that's where dejoy came from his little side business is getting huge contracts
Please you don't want Trump running the postal service. We have had no problems with them.
Iam waiting 3 weeks for a small package from Seattle the post office is broken
I do not want Trump running the country. There is nothing wrong with it!
@@sunnydelight3046 it's The hubs they put in there understaffed on there slowest day definitely not ready for Christmas
You don't ship much do you, If you've never had issues
This isn't even an anti- Trump take, I just don't think privatization of the USPS would benefit us at all. I just see the USPS as a service. The money they make helps to offset the cost of the service. I do understand the other side of the argument though.
Overall, the last couple of decades has been characterized by our government prioritizing serving and SAVING subpar corporations - instead of letting them fend for themselves and openly competing, policies have strengthened quasi-monopolies - so instead of bad companies, corporations, and services being outcompeted, our country has sustained and helped create a terrible corporate landscape littered with trash private entities that syphon billions to individuals. Imagine if those resources were instead directed to funding SERVICES (such as the USPS). Instead of being seen as a business - which it is not - imagine if they had better sorting machines, better collection points, better transportation, etc... decades of wasted opportunities to sustain a functioning service, instead of putting a leech like DeJoy in charge to bleed the USPS dry, in order to replace it with a private entity that will cut services, raise prices, and lower the quality of life for their workers.
Privatization advocates never put their money where their mouth is - they use corporate welfare.
That would be unconstitutional. The USPS took over the responsibility for The United States Post Office. The constitution guarantees us two things from the government… A Navy and a post office. Unless he is going to reinstate the post office he can’t legally privatize the postal service.
No free boxes for people to line their pet cages with or use them for packing material.
I lost my respect for postal employees when I moved to a rural area never have I seen such incompetence. When I put my flag up they will not stop that day unless I am receiving mail. I sold a vhs tape sent media mail the guy at the post office accepted it turned around yelled to people in the back room "media mail" then threw it about 30 feet to a bin. I could go on and on but I won't. I will say this I respect your channel for bringing up a subject that can ruffle feathers. Go job!
Any employer with 100s of thousands of employees has a few turds!
Sorry, we have some losers. It’s almost impossible to get fired at the PO and people take the job for granted.
There's so much waste the the postal system. There's no reason for an item that's only going 400 miles to take 10 days