2018 Porsche 911 GT3 - 991.2 - FIRST DRIVE REVIEW (2 of 2)
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- MotoMan drives the 500 HP 4.0 flat 6 cylinder 2018 Porsche 991.2 GT3 and learns that all the changes from Porsche Motorsport in Flacht, Germany to this Porsche 991.2 do indeed add up to more than the sum of Porsche parts but even at that, something FAR more . . .
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That engine sound is music to my soul. My dream car since a youngster
TOTO Cult Mine too! We will get our cars soon!!!
I don't think I've ever enjoyed a car review video as much as this one. Your excitement is sooo contagious. I've watched it a dozen times by now, and it always makes me feel good and smile... again and again. A religious experience it sure is. ;) Thank you for this.
Fantastic review! So much excitement, love it! I’m picking up my new 2018 sapphire blue GT3 in three weeks. Haven’t even driven one or seen it in person. It’s gonna be my first sports car. Totally crazy, I know :) Watching every TH-cam video I can find of it in the mean time.
Another great review. Love the noise! Looking forward to your Touring review. My Touring arrives in September, can't wait to experience it first hand.
Your videos are just awesome, so informative like many others on the neck
I know PDK shifts faster but I would get the stick 😍
Your opening statement was beautiful. Very well said!
Great review! Would be interested in your opinion of a '16 GTS with a manual vs. the GT3 Touring with a manual? Appreciate your commentary and analysis! Keep up the great work!! There's joy in it :)
I grew up with a poster of the Alpine Countach on my wall, but as an adult the GT3 is my dream car. Love the review!
My boss gave me a lift from Chelsea to Wentworth in a Porsche and unsurprisingly I discovered God-a lot.
GT3 sounds epic! A definite dream/poster car.
Excited for the gt3 touring review!!!
Love it. Just love it. It's totally emotional !!!
Great revue of a fabulous all round car that in reality is all the car any sensible person would ever want or need!
Sorry Motomantv, I wasn't listening to you talking in this episode, I just wanted to listen to the sound of this engine. Excellent review as always.
dream porche 2018 gt3 love your raw reactions 😂
Great review! I want the car you were supposed to get, with the manual and sans wing. That would be the perfect, under the radar, daily driver.
Great sound 👍. Great seats 👌
Awesome sound!!!!
Great video. Wish it was a manual. Just a quick correction regarding the wing on the GT3. You stated the velocities above the wing are faster than the velocities below the wing which what creates the down force. Actually it is the opposite to what you stated, as this creates a lift as faster velocities yields lower pressures. On a car the wing is inverted as you stated and the velocities flowing above the wing are actually slower creating higher pressures than velocities flowing below the wing and that’s what creates down force. I am sure that’s what you meant but just pointing it out. Mark
Good job. If they didn't work me like a borrowed mule for my money I would try to buy one. Also seems like the GT 3 is not sitting around in dealers' inventories. Happy with my $20,000 2002 911 Cab in my garage. Love the shape. See you on the Westpark tollroad when we head back to work on Monday.
Ram air looks awsome. Glad they still make a normally aspirated version.
Nice way to start the new season!
Doug, cool review. Why don’t you care for the buckets? Are they uncomfortable?
True unbridled Joy!
One of the best reviews from the best reviewer, but the first 50 seconds should be enough for you to get a call from Zuffenhausen with a Marketing VP job offer.
MotoMan just saw Jesus! Praise the lord!
That was a nice touch at the end . . . :)
As always, excellent work M!
Just bought 911 991.2 Turbo in Oct. I just preferred it over the GT3. And I agree about the seat I got the 18 way sport seats. And PDK as there was no manual option.
Now thats my kinda ride. Canary yellow? Paddle shift. Very appealing
Just saw one in Anthracite Gray with yellow stripe on top and with yellow calipers. Car had a sport exhaust........bottom line most beautiful looking and sounding 911 I have ever seen.
I know you really liked the last Boxster Spyder with the NA engine...how good do you think the new one will be if they put the 4.0 NA engine from the GT3 ( albeit a detuned version) into the new Spyder anticipated later this year?
when is the manual review coming? i am 1 mo into ownership and can say it IS the best manual i have ever driven. the copper bushings and the snappy grind on gear shifts is drool worthy, promise. and the ability to shift without lifting off the gas is a bizarre yet entertaining experience. rev matched downshifts a bonus as well.
SUPER jealous of you . . . Our Touring Manual is coming over the summer. Before that we have a lot of Porsche episodes coming up. First: Panamera Turbo. Second: 718 GTS. Third: 911T then back to GT3 . . .
Interesting that you filmed the static segments in a small aircraft T-hangar. If this is on a municipal airport, I am sure an actual airplane was parked there when the doors were closed. 🤔
Great review as always moto-man. Which would you choose, 991.2 gt3 or a 991 Targa gts
Great review. Will you be reviewing the Touring Edition?
Absolutely! Already shot. One of the early episodes of our coming season 10! Also just before that, the 992!!!!!
MotoManTV Excellent, can’t wait for season 10. Best of luck. BTW your journalistic acumen, wit and flair for delivering engaging car reviews is as entertaining as your technical expertise is informative, relevant and fascinating. Wonderful productions! Great channel!
@@quixoteemprises WOW! Thanks David! Happy New Year!
Given the banana paint job I was expecting more 'foot into it' slides :)
Pdk is amazing but I was secretly hoping this review would be with a manual. Really glad they're offering both again
But PDK is better.
In_a_Trance Studios don't care
Hey Motoman, so did you end up getting the GT3 Touring for review?
Sadly, had to reschedule a couple of times due to my travel schedule. Now it is scheduled for late December . . . No plans to reschedule.
Sweet Symphony
Your explanation of the effect of the wing is backwards and wrong. In the video, you say that it is the reverse of an airplane wing and that it makes the air go faster over the top. Actually, on an airplane wing, the air goes faster over the top, which lowers the air pressure there, creating lift. On a car wing, air goes faster over bottom, creating downforce. This is why car wing is flat on top and curved on bottom, while airplane wing is flat on bottom and curved on top. The car wing also creates some downforce with its angle of attack.
2017 GT3 Manual 1:24:86
2018 GT3 PDK 1:24:66
Randy Pobst Willow Springs Hot Lap!
460 Nm for a 4.0 litre naturally aspirated engine is a high torque output.
When will we see the Touring model? It’s about that time.....
Dude, the rear wing is not there to slow the air beneath the wing; it should be the other way round, the downforce is created by slowing the air on top of the wing hence increasing the air pressure on top of the wing to press the car down into the tarmac.
Hi Moto-man
Sorry to resurrect this lovely review but I for one have been waiting with baited breath for your mate “Porsche Frank” to come up with a GT3 manual, hopefully a Touring, that he promised way-back. Any news on that front??
No apologies necessary . . . NEVER tire talking about a GT3 . . . especially a Touring Manual. GOOD NEWS! A lovely blue one has been booked . . . right now, she is scheduled to be with us in mid October. Full disclosure, that *may* change due to travel schedules but we will shoot her. You will know when she arrives because you will never hear from me again as I abscond with the car over the boarder . . . :)
soooo this used or a brand new cayman GT4 my man?
Pretty sure your fuel Econ was set to UK MPG, not US MPG. There’s no way you got 30 MPG around town.
Fluterra this is a Canadian channel that’s why
What's the name of the song?
cool. car
faster air under the wing creates low pressure and sucks it down anit it?
I like that the torque does not come in until further up its not a car that will make you hit a tree right away.
I first saw this vid when you first posted it as I had traded in my .1 gt3 and was waiting for the arrival of my .2 some two or three months after you posted this video , needless to say that I was consuming everything .2 GT3 . Your enthusiasm kept me going until my car showed up .
I’m happy to report that after putting 35,000 km on my .1 , and now 7500 k on my .2 the first driving season which just ended because of winter ... the .2 is 10-15 % more car . More agile , noticeably more torque , overall much sharper not to mention no more puff of blue smoke on initial cold start up that was/is inherent to the .1 . I wasn’t really looking to upgrade but the planets lined up and I’m the proud owner of a .2 gt3 . FYI , I got the PDK , some days I wish I had the manual but to be honest , I think the original intent of the engineers was to have the incredible engine paired with a pdk because unless you have freakin supernaturally quick eye/hand/foot coordination , you can’t match the performance of this engine . It’s wasted on a manual in my opinion . You might as well have gone back a few model years and paired a manual with an engine with 125 less hp . That would be a better match . Thanks again for the vid . Your enthusiasm confirmed my purchase .
Thanks for the real world feedback from the owner's perspective . . . I will be able to share more insight when our .2 Touring manual finally turns up in December.
Reminiscent of driving a S2000, you have to run that car near the limit to fully appreciate it. Would love to have that engine is a convertible.
actually the air is going slower over the top of the Wing in the Porsche vs Faster over the top in an airplane.
Yeah, but how does it sound?
Flat sixes and flat fours do not inherently have less torque than other engine configurations. Torque is simply a function of force exerted on the piston multiplyed by the leverage on the crankshaft. The reason he thinks that this engine is low torque is because it has a high specific output. And in order for a car to have a high specific output they need to have a high horse power for the engine size. To tell if a car has high torque you need to look at its torque to displacement ratio. Also for a subjective driving experience perspective cars that have their peak torque higher in the revrage can feel less torquey because the torque surge does not come on as immediately. Anyway I could go into more details but the fact is that he is straight up wrong about saying that flat sixes and fours are less torquey.
Driving the naturally aspirated motor of a 3.8 flat 6 is so much more satisfying in terms of knowing where your power curve is! Cornering and shoot straights are far more confidence inspiring when you know their are no turbos to upset the balance at peak corning and/or technical drives. The turbos from Porsche today are not my cup of tea.The real "turbo" model aside, the current 991.2 reminds me of a castrated cat!
Edysin Simon it's a 4.0 now! :)
Why is the seat flexing so much? Is it noticeable when you drive? It looks like carbon fiber.
Isn't "front fascia" redundant?
No - a fascia is an outer trim or surface, there's also a rear fascia for instance.
Made in Flacht?
Simply have to have one...
Welcome to my side of town. You will like it here. Lotus land has nothing on us.
love it. and now at around $130 - 140k it seems like it might be time to pull that trigger.
foreshadowing
Laughs in 200k 991.2s 😢 in 2023
MotoMan, quit ragging on the PDK. A big reason you enjoyed the car is the well engineered transmission that allowed you to concentrate on driving the vehicle rather than thinking of what gear you should be in. I graduated to a Cayman S with PDK that allowed me to fully concentrate on driving, especially on track days. The PDK always seems to know what gear I need to be in. The longer I drive the Cayman S/PDK the less I find myself using the paddle shifters, it just knows better. The manual transmission is about as useful as drum brakes, carburators and bias ply tires.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Comparing a manual transmission to drum brakes is like comparing the steering wheel to horse-drawn carriages wooden wheels. From what you describe, driving is not your thing since you need the help of a computer to do it properly. You're better off with an autonomous kitchen appliance. Real drivers buy manuals in order to drive the car fully on open roads, mostly, not to beat the chronograph or the adversary at the racetrack.
Perhaps just watching TH-cam videos of good drivers would be more engaging for you than actually driving ... as they can do it better as well ... less driver input is better correct ??
Thank you for proving my point. I have been rallying and tracking cars for over 30 years, probably before you were born. If you want to be a "real driver" with a manual transmission you will finish last. Pull your head out of your behind and look to the future.
You still insist on mixing apples with oranges. I have raced the PCC for two seasons and also started with regional rallyes in Europe. Nobody's saying we should bring the manual stick back in racing, but when I am driving alone on a perfect twisty road I want to do it by myself, not having to prove anything to anyone by being faster or slower, just having fun driving as it always should be: with a clutch and a proper manual gearbox + heel & toe.
... self driving automous car for you pal ... have fun with the future tech !!
Paint it a decent yellow with a bit of depth in it , not Canary yellow.
wait til ya drive the manual. PDK is a bore in comparison, very involving and a fantastic gear box. you state “dont know many people that would take a $200,000 car on a track”. thats the whole POINT of a GT3 though- daily driver AND track day star. it does double duty well. its MADE for a track day. get some track day insurance and go have fun with it.
A GT3 with a manual (the way God intended) and without that spoiler (an available option) would be perfection.
NuclearGrizzly 911R
Jeferson Klein nah. Gt3 touring
*"the way God intended"* Hahhahahhahahahahahahaha are you serious?
That's offered as the GT3 Touring.
Every 911 should still come this way, as they used to
I know that story of the two bulls walking versus running. Why didn't you tell the whole story? ;)
Let's cut to the chase- No other car even matters. McLaren 720S? Whatever. AMG, BMW M (Insert fave here)? Yawn. Koenissegg? Sorry, stopped listening. I NEED 2 of these- 1 to stare at when I'm NOT driving, and, 1 to daily drive. BOTH with manual transmissions, please. I have to scroll away from the picture of it- just so I can think. I caught myself in a catatonic state for who knows how long last time I saw it. I used to be a car guy, but, suddenly the ONLY cars that matter are 2018 Porsche GT3's (Two, remember?). Any line I ever 'liked' on any 911 from any year is captured in this 991.2 model, the 4.0 liter NA flat six is delicious at any RPM, and, I too will take the 'stock' seats (heck, I'm over 50 so I want the comfort and adjustability). It's crazy, but, I've lost interest in other cars. I wonder what Chris Harris thinks about it? "Special" I'm sure.
he keeps saying the flat-6 doesn't make as much torque. dude, it's make quite a bit for an N/A motor per liter. flat-6 turbos make a ton of torque...dude is confused!
Wait wait - i thought slower air on top and faster beneath is more downforce... ?
drea177cha5er no..you just described the Bernoulli effect which is achieved on air planes by curving the top portion of the wing. The air has to travel farther over the top of the wing relative to the underside of the wing. The slower air on top creates less pressure compared to the underside and therefore you get lift.
The air has to travel farther on the TOP of an airplane wing so it moves FASTER. Faster = lower pressure. Motoman had the right idea, but said it backward. The rear wing on the Porsche has the air on the BOTTOM of the wing move faster, causing lower pressure than on the top, therefore resulting in a downforce.
Mother may I please have a manual.
need a manual :)
1:46 How?
Scary! Will try it tonight. Thanks.
Tried it last night. Didn't work. Targa 4S
The rear wing does exactly the opposite of what you claim.
Faster air below the wing creates lower pressure, creating downforce.
I'm finding myself very frustrated about some of your comments. You are testing a GT3! If you want to complain about the rear wing in your rear view mirror, then don't test the GT3. The wing is there for a purpose...the track. If a Porsche owner never intends to go to the track, then they should get the touring model, or less. Which brings up another point. Your comments about the $5200 seat option. You say no one takes a $200,000 car to the track? Quite the opposite. I see people every weekend at my local track (NCM Motorsport Park, Bowling Green, KY) with not only very expensive cars, but extremely expensive trailers and RV's/trucks hauling them to said track. I can assure you that enthusiasts invest far more than $200,000 to enjoy a track experience, not everyone of course, but a lot. The wing is not there for looks. It was not placed higher than the last model for looks either. It is placed there for downforce, and placed higher for cleaner air for MORE downforce! If you understood this, you would not be reviewing this car from the perspective of someone who only drives on the street. But I guess a lot of owners bought their GT3 just to impress, not for track, so maybe you do know more than me after all.
It’s great! For speculators 🤬
Haha. Just bought one today. Amazing. These cars need to be driven!
Actually, lack of torque DOES make a difference. Both Motor Trend and C&D said the 911 T was FASTER than the GT3 on winding roads.
Fluterra felt faster*... performance wise the gt3 is on a different level.
The base 911 T underperforms in every category ... it does have a fabric door pull though ... lol
model 3 with performance option will be faster than this car 0-60
A quite staggering amount of misinformation in this video!!!
4:01 "it is eight tenths of an inch taller". Why not sixteen twentieths or thirty-two fortieths? Next time try reducing the fraction i.e. four fifths, 4/5, like your 5th grade math teacher taught you.
MotoMan confirmed Jew? That nose, holy shit. Sad if true.
...for me its still just another petro burning environment polluting pecie of shit car. I want zero emission vehicles and I want Porsche to be a leader in my future car choices. You build what I want and my generation wants and we'll be your customers forever.
too much talk, engineering details while you are driving the car - you miss the main point "the driving experience" and bore us with the nerd reaction GODAWFUL.
Perhaps you should think about starting your own channel, and show us all how its done.