2 seconds slower than a Ford gt, 1 second slower than a huracan performante, and .1 seconds faster that a Ferrari 488. I dont wanna hear *NOBODY* talk shit about this performance beast ever again
Anyone that does is nut hugg'n their mustang. Really only "negatives" ive heard of the ZL1 1LE are interior stuff, performance wise its one of the best cars out there and THE best car for the money.
Big Mustang fan here and you are 100% right. Truly amazing car. I own a 2012 GT but would own one of these in a heart beat. I hope the Camaro sticks around.
C&D is Cherry pickin their times the 2:43 GT was a Solo round. The most recent Ford GT run was 2:45.5 soo ZL1 1LE FTW www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/
@@SupraDebt And the interior of the ZL1 is freaking awesome powered heated and cooled seats and running those times. It's not a stripped-out gutted car like the old z28 was.
Honestly I dont think any enthusiast underrates the car. The issue is GM made the redesign look just like the one it replaced. Amazing chassis, but looks old now.
@Qualified Automotive Solutions The interior is actually pretty nice, and better than the Mustang and the Challenger. In what way is quality "suspect"? What studies have led you to believe that?
@Qualified Automotive Solutions Maserati? Is that a fucking joke? LOL. Maseratis are the worst joke of a "car" you can buy. And the GT350's interior is objectively worse than the Camaro's, using cheaper plastics with worse ergonomics. Also, did you bother to mention. the Camaro costs less than every other car you mentioned? Because it seems like that might be relevant. And you didn't answer my question about the "suspect quality".
@@jadenmassey7882 yes, and that is absolutely mind warping ! those are the finest and among the most capable mid engine super sports cars that the storied italian brand has to offer, and the fact that the Camaro, which is not even in the same vehicle category, outperforms them on circuit race tracks is almost reality suspending. greetings.
@@yoojastle2099 This car for the price of a C8 puts down MUCH faster lap times then what the Z51 C8 puts down so yes by a long shot this car is a better bargain (unless you drag race).
What!! Thing is a beast. Have to say I'm very excited the lighting laps are back. I'd say the amount of work for the views is disappointing but don't let that fool you. People that actually buy theses car are watching not just kids. Look at the comments. Half of us own new Camaros. Impressive base of viewers!
@@TroBudden at the race I see a lot of white ones, something different would be nice but white does always look good, especially with the contrasting black hood, front splitter, and rear spoiler.
an impressive and unique combination of sheer raw power, brawn and precision. it's like strength and brutality was paired with style and finesse. amazing vehicle.
I was at VIR the day after LL13 for a PCA event, and this car was being picked up by GM. The person picking it up drove all around the paddock letting people check it out and answered questions about it. If GM can get the traction control dialed in, this would be a great car for intermediate drivers to really get some speed...or somebody that has a GT2 RS can track as an alternate "lower-cost" alternative. I can drive, but I don't want to find a tire wall by mistake in a more expensive car.
Great car is an understatement. I have a 2016 ATS-V and this chassis is OUTSTANDING! I've had it for about 2 weeks now and if it ain't worth twice the cost! The amazing traction control and steering feel is something to behold.
If I lived in the states, this would be my track car of choice. All that speed and durability without the price. And by running it hard, it won't cost an arm nor a leg either.
The new GT500 is going to get DESTROYED by the ZL1 1LE around roadcourses. The ZL1 1LE pulls 1.18 Gs on the skidpad, did Motortrend's figure 8 test in 23 seconds flat, and brakes 60-0 in 91 ft/70-0 in 141 ft. The roadcourse focused GT350R couldn't even come close to matching the ZL1 1LE's handling and braking performance. The 4200+ lb GT500 likely won't even come close to matching the GT350R's handling and braking performance. The huge/heavy Eaton R2650 blower and all the extra intercoolers, plumbing, and fluids are mostly responsible for the GT500's weight gain over the GT350. All that equipment is up front and will hurt weight distribution and negatively impact handling and braking performance. The GT500 is going to beat the ZL1 1LE in a staight line and that's about it.
@@Ricochet1616 , lol. Very small percentage and out of that number theres a good number that dont check oil or continue with that motorcraft diarrhea oil. My gt350 and gt350r are both running Amsoil and oil consumption decreased significantly. Both voodoo gen 1 engines, but I'm always paranoid that something bad is gonna happen
Being that production is ending I'm hoping they make a special edition one and put the lt5 in. The Camaro can already run mid 11s with a 3.4 quarter mile time. We're probably looking at 2 to 3 tenths
Faster than a Ferrari and basically just as fast as a lambo or ford GT. Can also carry four people and groceries after 100k+ miles of reliability. I'm not surprised the EU made it illegal, they can't handle the butthurt.
That is what I call a white knuckle lap that - I mean look at his knuckles :p Well done sir, and what a car, looks and sounds epic and has the handling and performance potential to match - well done GM.
Recently purchased one for track duty. It turns like a smaller vehicle because the inputs translate directly into output. The steering weight is a bit heavy which doesn’t match how nimble the vehicle is.
Been contemplating owning a ZL1 since viewing theses vids. Tossed around either getting the 6 manual stick or the 10 speed automatic but after watching autos vs sticks I now I think the auto is they way to go since you can now buy a automatic 1LE.
Just started watching this video and it's quite clear a lot of time could have been shaved off this run. Coasting in the "straight sections" (slight turns left and right where you just go straight but hit either Apex of the turns). Car is still very quick around the track, quite clear the thing handles way beyond where the car was being pushed.
America First Age ! folks, it is by far the fastest in its category and vehicle class, it is a 2+2 seater full size coupe with rwd. I mean, look, it beat out such illustrious cars as the 488 gtb, and the only two that clocked the track faster were the Ford GT and the lamborghini huracan performante, those are full blown mid engine super-cars that cost several $100k!
I AM REALLY DISSAPOINTED IN THE QUALITY OF THESE VIDEOS. I expected more from you guys. 1.) You forgot the "y" in Tony's name when presenting the drIver for the Porsche Cayenne video. 2.) In many videos every car tested seemed to be 3030LBS which is clearly not correct. 3.) You don't have to film in 4K but at least 1080p @60 frames would be nice. 4.) Lastly, it wouldn't hurt to add an exhaust mic to each vehicle, so we don't have to hear a bunch of interior drone, rather than these vehicles spectacular exhaust notes. I look forward every year to the lightning lap. Unfortunately, this year felt low budget, rushed, and not very well executed. I hope next year you will ask the viewers for some advice to better cater to what we would like to see. Looking forward to seeing some improvements.
I thought about buying one of these to replace my C6Z as a daily driver, but with good tires my C6Z seems just as fast and looks and sounds better. Might just wait for the C8Z.
The ZL1 1LE is only 2 seconds slower than a half million dollar Ford GT... Fucking nuts that car. The things that Chevy did with the entire 6th gen lineup is insane. The things that they did with the ZL1 cars is goddamn ridiculous.
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I wonder if the 1LE is still faster around the track compared to a c8, and what version of the c8 would be required to best it. And how much more it would have to cost.
The Z51 C8 with its weight and with 495BHP I would expect around a 2:52.00 for that car so considerably slower then this Camaro around VIR. Really exactly where it falls on this list is going to come down to how badly does its understeer impact it at VIR.
@@spengg_shell Not even close, lol. The ZL1 1LE will destroy any C8 Stingray on a track. The Z06 will be a different story, but the base C8 is just that, the base model. Don't expect it to beat anything like a ZL1 1LE.
www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/ It's 8 tenths of a second faster than the ZL1 1LE. Which is not really impressive considering this is a CAMARO. The Viper Acrylic's cost twice as much money and was a bespoke supercar. The Camaro is a CAMARO, with heated and cooled seats and sound deadening, lol
@@vernonprice5986 a win is a win and that Viper score was set back in 2015. No score last forever. Sure 2019 cars like the Porsche GT-2 RS and 2019 Corvette ZR1 will eventually pull a better score. ZR1 is also 140 grand. The Camaro is a great track car but not appealing to the American consumer and that's why GM will probably kill it off again. The new Corvette C6 will only hurt the ZL1 sales even more when the consumer appeals to a mid engine sports car over the Camaro.
@@raymondrocco6251 The ZR1 already has a better score than then ACR. The point was that this is a CAMARO that set a lap time almost as fast as the Viper ACR. And you're not qualified to say what is and isn't appealing to anybody, because you don't speak for them and you have no studies to back that up. And GM has already explicitly stated they are not canceling the Camaro, do your homework please. C8 sales aren't going to do anything to Camaro sales, they're two completely different cars and the ZL1 is significantly faster. The bottom line there is that this is a CAMARO that ran within one second of the Viper ACR's lap time. There's no way you can downplay that without making yourself look like a bitter Camaro hater. So take a chill pill and accept reality.
How is the Supra impressive? It took 3 minutes 1.4 seconds to get around VIR. Check out this list of every lap time ever from Car and Drivers Lightning Lap tests done at VIR... www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/ Notice how not impressive a 3 minute 1.4 second lap time is? Im not saying it's slow or anything. It certainly has some cars that we all used to think were impressive performers on track near it in the all time rankings (like the Porsche 997 911 GT3, 1st gen Ford GT, Corvette C6 Z06, 2006 Viper, etc...). However, the Shelby GT350R (priced similarly to the new Supra) did it in 2 minutes 51.8 seconds and my $40k out the door Camaro SS 1LE did it in 2 minutes 54.8 seconds. By 2019 standards 3 minutes 1.4 seconds really isn't that great for a car a pricey as the new Supra.
The new GT500 is going to get DESTROYED by the ZL1 1LE around roadcourses. The ZL1 1LE pulls 1.18 Gs on the skidpad, did Motortrend's figure 8 test in 23 seconds flat, and brakes 60-0 in 91 ft/70-0 in 141 ft. The roadcourse focused GT350R couldn't even come close to matching the ZL1 1LE's handling and braking performance. The 4200+ lb GT500 likely won't even come close to matching the GT350R's handling and braking performance. The huge/heavy Eaton R2650 blower and all the extra intercoolers, plumbing, and fluids are mostly responsible for the GT500's weight gain over the GT350. All that equipment is up front and will hurt weight distribution and negatively impact handling and braking performance. The GT500 is going to beat the ZL1 1LE in a staight line and that's about it.
@@oldblood_eyes Raúl no it's not. They specifically built this GT500 to be more track focused. Look at the big wing along with the front air lip/splitter on the front fenders. Even their promo videos show it on a track.
The GT500 did a pre Lightning Lap test with 5 tractor trailer loads of cars and 19 staff. I was leaving VIR on 3/26/19 as they were arriving and spoke with one of the Ford engineers. All I can say is that the test must not have gone well since they didn’t let C&D have a car. What a joke! Poor Ford has all the time in the world to beat the ZLE on a road course or come out with something that could beat a Redeye or Demon on a drag strip and it looks like they’ll do neither. Their cocky brand manager saying multiple times that venom kills demons. Yeah right! Also the C8 gets revealed and takes most of the attention away from the GT500 and don’t forget the Ford GT got its own little Lightning Lap only to be embarrassed a short time later by the ZR1.
@@yusufelsayed7898 the GT500 is for trash 10L90 is faster transmission than thdm DCT the GT500 is dead already the ZL11LE will killing the Ford Mustang
@@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 you do know the 2020 shelby GT500 runs 10.6s and 10.7s in a quarter mile while the ZL1 runs 11.4s and 11.5s?Also, it was done on bad conditions as well. The 0-60 is 3.3 which is quicker than the ZL1s 3.5 0-60 time. The 2020 shelby GT500 is very well planted into the ground.
@@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 also, I love both but one is obviously much quicker. Both look very nice!! The 2020 shelby GT500 on very good conditions can easily pull 10.4s and 10.5s in a quarter mile. It's the dual clutch transmission is what's helping the GT500 achieve those crazy quarter mile times.
@@yusufelsayed7898 the GT500 is for trash the ZL1 1LE 10L90 is 10 sec flat with the new ELsd drag calibration I don't think so 4,200 lbs car boat 1/4 mille 10 sec ford team fake news always ford always is trash
Vernon Price I don’t know if Gran Turismo has VIR but do play Forza and I use it to practice for when I will be going up there with my next project car.
Everyone is underestimating the 2020 shelby GT500. Remember, the base model weighs 4225+lbs not the track package. The track package will be much lighter, have stickier tires, big wing. Also, the 2020 shelby has a dual clutch transmission which will make a big difference on the track in the track handling package.
The GT500 has a dual clutch transmission which is a game changer. It does 10.6s in the quarter mile at 133mph. The DCT makes a huge difference on the track.
Funeral for blacks dodge ford mustang ferrari lamborghini mclaren I love my ZL1 1LE 10 Speed if get the LT5 777 next year Good luck any supercars or americans cars 650 hp very fast car already than many shit supercars
The 5th gen camaro used a Holden chassis, the 6th gen uses a alpha chassis from Cadillac. I don't know wtf you talking about with the chinese suspension, you obviously have no clue what you're talking about lol.
I guess that’s why gm has haunted full production if the Camaro huh lol, the Dodge Challenger outsells ford and gm combined. Because neither can beat it. Corners are for dumbasses when we meet on the road it’s red Light to red Light which ford or Chevy can’t win. Plus Challengers have a real back seat and are so comfortable driving daily. My Redeye spanks even the new vette lol just wait the Acr Challenger is coming mid spring it’s already beat the ford gt and mid engine joke vette by 12 seconds on Nuremberg
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2 seconds slower than a Ford gt, 1 second slower than a huracan performante, and .1 seconds faster that a Ferrari 488.
I dont wanna hear *NOBODY* talk shit about this performance beast ever again
Anyone that does is nut hugg'n their mustang. Really only "negatives" ive heard of the ZL1 1LE are interior stuff, performance wise its one of the best cars out there and THE best car for the money.
Big Mustang fan here and you are 100% right. Truly amazing car. I own a 2012 GT but would own one of these in a heart beat. I hope the Camaro sticks around.
C&D is Cherry pickin their times the 2:43 GT was a Solo round. The most recent Ford GT run was 2:45.5 soo ZL1 1LE FTW
www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/
@@SupraDebt
And the interior of the ZL1 is freaking awesome powered heated and cooled seats and running those times. It's not a stripped-out gutted car like the old z28 was.
Shit
I don't get why ZL1's are so underrated. The car is a beast!
Honestly I dont think any enthusiast underrates the car. The issue is GM made the redesign look just like the one it replaced. Amazing chassis, but looks old now.
Sitting in one and the visibility all around is it’s down fall. Very capable car👍🏻
@Qualified Automotive Solutions The interior is actually pretty nice, and better than the Mustang and the Challenger. In what way is quality "suspect"? What studies have led you to believe that?
@Qualified Automotive Solutions Maserati? Is that a fucking joke? LOL. Maseratis are the worst joke of a "car" you can buy. And the GT350's interior is objectively worse than the Camaro's, using cheaper plastics with worse ergonomics. Also, did you bother to mention. the Camaro costs less than every other car you mentioned? Because it seems like that might be relevant.
And you didn't answer my question about the "suspect quality".
adrinz they’re too stiff for boomers
Love my ZL1 1LE. GM should have spent more money marketing this car.
I think this might be the last gas powered Camaro or even Zl1 1le. Most cars are going electric.
mrjjthor Thor yes , proof of that is GM moved Al Opp. To the Electric Performance division
@@Viages That just means the value of our cars will go up. I plan on holding onto mine forever. This car is way to much fun
Ikr, everyday all I see is F150 commercials on tv and Ford products before any TH-cam vedio starts lol.
@@mrjjthor This statement is purely retarded....it would go mild hybrid for years before it ever went full electric.....lay off the huffing glue..
Insane performance per dollar. As fast as Ferrari 488?!?!?! For a fraction of the price to buy and maintain.
Wow
Faster than a 488
I think with more practice/better driver they could have easily shaved a few seconds off that time as well.
no no pal, not as fast but faster than a ferrari 488 actually !
CHUUMPASS it does the Nurburgring faster than a 458 and 488
@@jadenmassey7882 yes, and that is absolutely mind warping ! those are the finest and among the most capable mid engine super sports cars that the storied italian brand has to offer, and the fact that the Camaro, which is not even in the same vehicle category, outperforms them on circuit race tracks is almost reality suspending.
greetings.
Best performance bargain on the market now And possibly ever
@@yoojastle2099 being that no one owns one yet I would beg to differ.
@@xQuantom that answer was 👌🏽🤣
@@yoojastle2099 This car for the price of a C8 puts down MUCH faster lap times then what the Z51 C8 puts down so yes by a long shot this car is a better bargain (unless you drag race).
The GT500 will destroy it when it comes out
drfaticus F-gm it will be an interesting comparo. GT500 weighs 400lbs more. Basically same as hellcat.
I'm impressed with this time but look at that manual time!!! Now thats impressive
Wow..just wow. LOVE IT!
Well well if it isn't Dora.. I mean Dory 😆
Woman driven do u have Chevy camaro zl1 1le
What!! Thing is a beast. Have to say I'm very excited the lighting laps are back. I'd say the amount of work for the views is disappointing but don't let that fool you. People that actually buy theses car are watching not just kids. Look at the comments. Half of us own new Camaros. Impressive base of viewers!
Clayton Yates i own a ctsv, but im looking into a manual zl1 1le./c7 just not sure what paint colour to go with.
@@TroBudden at the race I see a lot of white ones, something different would be nice but white does always look good, especially with the contrasting black hood, front splitter, and rear spoiler.
an impressive and unique combination of sheer raw power, brawn and precision. it's like strength and brutality was paired with style and finesse. amazing vehicle.
I was at VIR the day after LL13 for a PCA event, and this car was being picked up by GM. The person picking it up drove all around the paddock letting people check it out and answered questions about it. If GM can get the traction control dialed in, this would be a great car for intermediate drivers to really get some speed...or somebody that has a GT2 RS can track as an alternate "lower-cost" alternative. I can drive, but I don't want to find a tire wall by mistake in a more expensive car.
Such a great machine
Just 2 seconds slower than a half a million dollar for GT that's nuts
Put a different driver in and it would have been the other way around.
zeke297 dude this C&D guys are journalists not profesional drivers lol lightning laps done by them aren’t even taken serious except by noobs like you😂
@@Jimmyxsx please don't be a butt hurt ford Fanboy
@@Jimmyxsx GM's racing team was only two seconds faster with the C7 ZR1 than those journalists at that same track, so....
This is a beast of a time and a hell of a bargain but two seconds per lap difference is allot in this sport.
Great car is an understatement. I have a 2016 ATS-V and this chassis is OUTSTANDING! I've had it for about 2 weeks now and if it ain't worth twice the cost! The amazing traction control and steering feel is something to behold.
Camaro, the new king
K Tucker camaro the new king everybody
This video inspired me to get a 2020 Camaro ZL1 1LE. I t even inspired me to start my own channel. Great job guys.
If I lived in the states, this would be my track car of choice. All that speed and durability without the price. And by running it hard, it won't cost an arm nor a leg either.
what a amazing car. love that color. mean looking car
I love my Camaro Zl1 1le with the 10 speed automatic.
Yea love camaro zl1 1le 10 speed automatic
I have to have a manual. Auto is faster but I'm not looking for track times and prefer the more engaging drive. My z1le is my therapy car. Lol.
DCT is even faster. DCTs are the future.
*HOOOLY S*IT!!!* No way I'm taking any International rival over this chassis or the mustangs.
Love ZL1 1LE
There isn't a Mustang made that can hang with the zl1 1le.
@@neverendingmods Horsepower wise maybe not, but the GT350R is a direct competitor to the 1LE track cars.
@@manowar5516 It is a direct competitor, but it's slower, as the Camaro SS 1LE proved by matching the GT350R's lap times with 70 fewer HP.
Australia and China are pretty international.
Incredible performance value. Camaro's Rock !!!!
That big girl knows how to dance.
Why did they use crappier cameras this year? 2018 had 4k resolution and looked better. Amazing lap though!
I think this is the first actual footage of the camaro zl1 1le with the 10 spd. I have been looking at this car for a while now.
Really? This car has been out for a year and it's all over TH-cam
@@snozbaries7652
Really like who? I've been trying to read or watch reviews about the zl1 1le w/10 spd and I can't find any
snozbaries when the car came out it was manual only. The auto is new for this year. Very few auto vids out yet.
is very fast
The new GT500 is going to get DESTROYED by the ZL1 1LE around roadcourses. The ZL1 1LE pulls 1.18 Gs on the skidpad, did Motortrend's figure 8 test in 23 seconds flat, and brakes 60-0 in 91 ft/70-0 in 141 ft. The roadcourse focused GT350R couldn't even come close to matching the ZL1 1LE's handling and braking performance. The 4200+ lb GT500 likely won't even come close to matching the GT350R's handling and braking performance. The huge/heavy Eaton R2650 blower and all the extra intercoolers, plumbing, and fluids are mostly responsible for the GT500's weight gain over the GT350. All that equipment is up front and will hurt weight distribution and negatively impact handling and braking performance. The GT500 is going to beat the ZL1 1LE in a staight line and that's about it.
I'll just leave this here: th-cam.com/video/MDIP59Hn4Z4/w-d-xo.html
There's been a lot of improvements to the new GT350R :)
Taylor Ghastin Amen!
Hopefully they improve the engines from not blowing up.
@@Ricochet1616 , lol. Very small percentage and out of that number theres a good number that dont check oil or continue with that motorcraft diarrhea oil. My gt350 and gt350r are both running Amsoil and oil consumption decreased significantly. Both voodoo gen 1 engines, but I'm always paranoid that something bad is gonna happen
The track handling package is going to weigh less than 4200lbs because of the carbon parts.
It's in my garage ..... 10 feet below (the manual). LOVE IT.
@Dale Walker am I showing that I love this car too much. My bad. It's hard to contain though.
@Dale Walkeragain, just the manual
What A Beast!! Now come on GM! Give us one with the LT5!
That would be so funny if they did that after the gt500 came out.
Being that production is ending I'm hoping they make a special edition one and put the lt5 in. The Camaro can already run mid 11s with a 3.4 quarter mile time. We're probably looking at 2 to 3 tenths
is coming next spring 800 hp LT5 Rumored
@@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 No teasing George, no teasing (but damn, I hope you're right). :)
Faster than a Ferrari and basically just as fast as a lambo or ford GT. Can also carry four people and groceries after 100k+ miles of reliability. I'm not surprised the EU made it illegal, they can't handle the butthurt.
That is what I call a white knuckle lap that - I mean look at his knuckles :p
Well done sir, and what a car, looks and sounds epic and has the handling and performance potential to match - well done GM.
what a transmission!!!!!!!!!!!
10L90 new transmission with very high redline and tuning program for top speed 214 mph 0.60 under 2.9 sec
still the best looking front end. dont know how GM could've ruined the 2019 front end for the non ZL1... at least the 2020 looks better
Recently purchased one for track duty. It turns like a smaller vehicle because the inputs translate directly into output. The steering weight is a bit heavy which doesn’t match how nimble the vehicle is.
Now let us see the base C8 Corvette with the Z51 pkg run this circuit....inquiring minds want to know. Interesting....very interesting....
Im upgrading my camero ss to this is it worth the trade?
Been contemplating owning a ZL1 since viewing theses vids. Tossed around either getting the 6 manual stick or the 10 speed automatic but after watching autos vs sticks I now I think the auto is they way to go since you can now buy a automatic 1LE.
Just started watching this video and it's quite clear a lot of time could have been shaved off this run. Coasting in the "straight sections" (slight turns left and right where you just go straight but hit either Apex of the turns). Car is still very quick around the track, quite clear the thing handles way beyond where the car was being pushed.
What happened to Lightning Lap 2020? Budget cutting at Car and Driver?
Can't wait until it becomes somewhat affordable. Its a phenomenal car.
America First Age ! folks, it is by far the fastest in its category and vehicle class, it is a 2+2 seater full size coupe with rwd.
I mean, look, it beat out such illustrious cars as the 488 gtb, and the only two that clocked the track faster were the Ford GT and the lamborghini huracan performante, those are full blown mid engine super-cars that cost several $100k!
I AM REALLY DISSAPOINTED IN THE QUALITY OF THESE VIDEOS. I expected more from you guys. 1.) You forgot the "y" in Tony's name when presenting the drIver for the Porsche Cayenne video. 2.) In many videos every car tested seemed to be 3030LBS which is clearly not correct. 3.) You don't have to film in 4K but at least 1080p @60 frames would be nice. 4.) Lastly, it wouldn't hurt to add an exhaust mic to each vehicle, so we don't have to hear a bunch of interior drone, rather than these vehicles spectacular exhaust notes. I look forward every year to the lightning lap. Unfortunately, this year felt low budget, rushed, and not very well executed. I hope next year you will ask the viewers for some advice to better cater to what we would like to see. Looking forward to seeing some improvements.
I thought about buying one of these to replace my C6Z as a daily driver, but with good tires my C6Z seems just as fast and looks and sounds better. Might just wait for the C8Z.
My dream car
The ZL1 1LE is only 2 seconds slower than a half million dollar Ford GT... Fucking nuts that car. The things that Chevy did with the entire 6th gen lineup is insane. The things that they did with the ZL1 cars is goddamn ridiculous.
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Videos like this about the camaro makes me proud! Chevrolet came along way for it to kill this generation of Camaros!
Nice. Great video!
Would the corvette c8 be in the same price range?
Yes, they start at $59,995 for the first year only. About $65,000 with the Z51 package.
I wonder if the 1LE is still faster around the track compared to a c8, and what version of the c8 would be required to best it. And how much more it would have to cost.
The c8 would most likely be faster
The Z51 C8 with its weight and with 495BHP I would expect around a 2:52.00 for that car so considerably slower then this Camaro around VIR. Really exactly where it falls on this list is going to come down to how badly does its understeer impact it at VIR.
@@spengg_shell Not even close, lol. The ZL1 1LE will destroy any C8 Stingray on a track. The Z06 will be a different story, but the base C8 is just that, the base model. Don't expect it to beat anything like a ZL1 1LE.
is faster
@@vernonprice5986 the ZL11LE will get 800 hp LT5 2021
Z06 please ..
😍my ZL1
I knew before the video even started, that it was gonna to do it in less than 3:56. I woulda put money on that. 😶
Wow
Why no gear and rpm data?
Curious what motor oil brand good for the ZL1 cars????
5w45
the ZL11LE 10L90 is very fast car
Dextrose ll 0w-40 esp. Now
Great Time..But where is The Viper ACR Time?
www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/
It's 8 tenths of a second faster than the ZL1 1LE. Which is not really impressive considering this is a CAMARO. The Viper Acrylic's cost twice as much money and was a bespoke supercar. The Camaro is a CAMARO, with heated and cooled seats and sound deadening, lol
@@vernonprice5986 a win is a win and that Viper score was set back in 2015. No score last forever. Sure 2019 cars like the Porsche GT-2 RS and 2019 Corvette ZR1 will eventually pull a better score. ZR1 is also 140 grand. The Camaro is a great track car but not appealing to the American consumer and that's why GM will probably kill it off again. The new Corvette C6 will only hurt the ZL1 sales even more when the consumer appeals to a mid engine sports car over the Camaro.
@@raymondrocco6251 The ZR1 already has a better score than then ACR. The point was that this is a CAMARO that set a lap time almost as fast as the Viper ACR. And you're not qualified to say what is and isn't appealing to anybody, because you don't speak for them and you have no studies to back that up. And GM has already explicitly stated they are not canceling the Camaro, do your homework please.
C8 sales aren't going to do anything to Camaro sales, they're two completely different cars and the ZL1 is significantly faster.
The bottom line there is that this is a CAMARO that ran within one second of the Viper ACR's lap time. There's no way you can downplay that without making yourself look like a bitter Camaro hater. So take a chill pill and accept reality.
is dead😂😂😂
American engineering makes a joke out of the rest of the world. go ahead Germany beat this for $75,000
Anyone else notice he was in full auto mode rather than using the paddles? Kinda weird right?
This car and the Supra is very impressive. Best value!
How is the Supra impressive? It took 3 minutes 1.4 seconds to get around VIR. Check out this list of every lap time ever from Car and Drivers Lightning Lap tests done at VIR...
www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/
Notice how not impressive a 3 minute 1.4 second lap time is? Im not saying it's slow or anything. It certainly has some cars that we all used to think were impressive performers on track near it in the all time rankings (like the Porsche 997 911 GT3, 1st gen Ford GT, Corvette C6 Z06, 2006 Viper, etc...). However, the Shelby GT350R (priced similarly to the new Supra) did it in 2 minutes 51.8 seconds and my $40k out the door Camaro SS 1LE did it in 2 minutes 54.8 seconds.
By 2019 standards 3 minutes 1.4 seconds really isn't that great for a car a pricey as the new Supra.
we need ZL1 1LE Auto vs GT500 in Track spec
The new GT500 is going to get DESTROYED by the ZL1 1LE around roadcourses. The ZL1 1LE pulls 1.18 Gs on the skidpad, did Motortrend's figure 8 test in 23 seconds flat, and brakes 60-0 in 91 ft/70-0 in 141 ft. The roadcourse focused GT350R couldn't even come close to matching the ZL1 1LE's handling and braking performance. The 4200+ lb GT500 likely won't even come close to matching the GT350R's handling and braking performance. The huge/heavy Eaton R2650 blower and all the extra intercoolers, plumbing, and fluids are mostly responsible for the GT500's weight gain over the GT350. All that equipment is up front and will hurt weight distribution and negatively impact handling and braking performance. The GT500 is going to beat the ZL1 1LE in a staight line and that's about it.
GT500 is more straight line oriented rather than track focused. however I could see ford making an R version which can be more track oriented
@@oldblood_eyes Raúl no it's not. They specifically built this GT500 to be more track focused. Look at the big wing along with the front air lip/splitter on the front fenders. Even their promo videos show it on a track.
@@SteelTimeify pretty sure that's because of the carbon fiber TRACK package. gt500 is known to be for straight speed
The GT500 did a pre Lightning Lap test with 5 tractor trailer loads of cars and 19 staff. I was leaving VIR on 3/26/19 as they were arriving and spoke with one of the Ford engineers. All I can say is that the test must not have gone well since they didn’t let C&D have a car. What a joke! Poor Ford has all the time in the world to beat the ZLE on a road course or come out with something that could beat a Redeye or Demon on a drag strip and it looks like they’ll do neither. Their cocky brand manager saying multiple times that venom kills demons. Yeah right! Also the C8 gets revealed and takes most of the attention away from the GT500 and don’t forget the Ford GT got its own little Lightning Lap only to be embarrassed a short time later by the ZR1.
The ZL1 is a beast it might be the beat gt500 hopefully Ford answer
The track package plus its 7 speed dual clutch transmission will be lethal.
@@yusufelsayed7898 the GT500 is for trash 10L90 is faster transmission than thdm DCT the GT500 is dead already the ZL11LE will killing the Ford Mustang
@@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 you do know the 2020 shelby GT500 runs 10.6s and 10.7s in a quarter mile while the ZL1 runs 11.4s and 11.5s?Also, it was done on bad conditions as well. The 0-60 is 3.3 which is quicker than the ZL1s 3.5 0-60 time. The 2020 shelby GT500 is very well planted into the ground.
@@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 also, I love both but one is obviously much quicker. Both look very nice!! The 2020 shelby GT500 on very good conditions can easily pull 10.4s and 10.5s in a quarter mile. It's the dual clutch transmission is what's helping the GT500 achieve those crazy quarter mile times.
@@yusufelsayed7898 the GT500 is for trash the ZL1 1LE 10L90 is 10 sec flat with the new ELsd drag calibration I don't think so 4,200 lbs car boat 1/4 mille 10 sec ford team fake news always ford always is trash
I wonder if the C8 will be faster
The Stingray won't. But the Z06, who knows. Maybe.
@@vernonprice5986 I guess we'll see.
Goodyear Eagel
Who is the driver?
Tony quiroga
Bill wise
Have I seen this track in a video game ?
TruXter Jones Yes you have. Most likely in Forza Motorsport.
It's VIR. Only you will know if you've seen it in a video game or not.
Vernon Price I don’t know if Gran Turismo has VIR but do play Forza and I use it to practice for when I will be going up there with my next project car.
Wow beat a 488
I will take one in manual please
My dude said automatic...im like come on dude 🙄
Ford might as well cancel the gt500
gt500 is way to heavy and cost to much $$$ and plus markup
The Mustang is too heavy, that’s for sure!
Everyone is underestimating the 2020 shelby GT500. Remember, the base model weighs 4225+lbs not the track package. The track package will be much lighter, have stickier tires, big wing. Also, the 2020 shelby has a dual clutch transmission which will make a big difference on the track in the track handling package.
@@jordankhaght5544 my mistake. My keyboard sucks. I meant 4,225lbs for the base model.
The GT500 has a dual clutch transmission which is a game changer. It does 10.6s in the quarter mile at 133mph. The DCT makes a huge difference on the track.
2 seconds slower than a Ford GT.
@@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028 and 70 grand vs 500 grand and the ZR1 beats the ford
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Nani
ZL1 1LE Automatic: 2:50:000
ZL1 1LE Manual: 2:45:8X
GT500 Dual Clutch Transmission: 2:44:56
GT500 quicker than ZL1 1LE Automatic about 4 milliseconds, a second faster than ZL1 1LE Manual, sorry Chevrolet 😂
Funeral for blacks dodge ford mustang ferrari lamborghini mclaren I love my ZL1 1LE 10 Speed if get the LT5 777 next year Good luck any supercars or americans cars 650 hp very fast car already than many shit supercars
George giannopouloszl1 u said the zl1 1le 777hp next spring
George g I a n n o p o u Los zl1 zl1 1le get LT5 777hp next year
@@marcojordan1368 is coming soon LT5 this summer rumors
George u talk about ZL1 with lt5 777hp coming soon this summer rumors
@@marcojordan1368 it is rumored he says last 3 weeks in Michigan testing very louder Camaro ZL1 with big hood. camouflage
An Australian based platform with Chinese suspension and american engine. Wild recipe.
The 5th gen camaro used a Holden chassis, the 6th gen uses a alpha chassis from Cadillac. I don't know wtf you talking about with the chinese suspension, you obviously have no clue what you're talking about lol.
Wow 6 lbs of torque , 0:40.
That's the power to weight ratio you dingus.
@@h4l03rul3z Hahahaha, "dingus" was exactly the right word to use
New GT500 = ALPHA MALE
New ZL1 1LE = Beta male
I guess that’s why gm has haunted full production if the Camaro huh lol, the Dodge Challenger outsells ford and gm combined. Because neither can beat it. Corners are for dumbasses when we meet on the road it’s red Light to red Light which ford or Chevy can’t win. Plus Challengers have a real back seat and are so comfortable driving daily. My Redeye spanks even the new vette lol just wait the Acr Challenger is coming mid spring it’s already beat the ford gt and mid engine joke vette by 12 seconds on Nuremberg
Mid South Hot Shots the mustang is the best selling sports car idiot. Get your moose fanboy ass outta here
"Nuremberg" lmfao, proved you don't know shit and the Ford GT and C8 don't even have official lap times yet. GTFO
And I'll smoke all of you in Tesla Model S....Redeye porker, hahaha
Put the same size supercharger on the zl1 and see friend. Nobody mentions the supercharger size difference.
Cheap build quality! Terrible sight lines! Horrible on real roads and guess what it and the entire Camaro line have been discontinued!
No they haven't, you need to do better research and stop being a biased dipshit.
It still ugly