@@chez36i think real time cutscenes Postal 2 utilizes the same cutscene thing as l4d does its like in real time so if you put a dynamite on were the npcs are going to start their speech the cutscene will just keep playing normally but without them cuz they dead
@@greendude7650 if the bots get hit by spitter goo they move away from the goo and then just stop moving until the goo is gone, you could run ahead and have them behind you after getting hit by the goo and they still won’t progress forward with you until the goo is gone. Idk if this is by design or just a bug but I get it every single time a bot gets hit by goo
@@builderbennythats good play the classics cause the new games these days severely lack entertainment and quality you will have more fun with friends on l4d series and other valve titles than anything cod could bring to the table
That's an easy one. Whenever bots encounter a ground hazard (Be it fire from a gascan, molotov or environmental, or a Spitter's acid to mention a few examples), if the hazard is temporary, they will back off to the closest safe spot there is and wait for it to end, even if they can just easily go around. They're not that dumb, they just refuse to lose HP to a spitter's acid. If you wanted him to keep moving you should've anticipated the spit and went around it so the bot would follow and not get stuck. You gotta always remember that bots can't "see" as we do, they move through predefined routes and that's it. Bots in L4D don't create new routes in real time so if their path is blocked they will just wait for it to "fix itself" This is a problem in Dead Center. In the first chapter, before you reach the elevator, there's a few rooms whose doors can be broken who will extend a fire to the main corridor. Since it's not a permanent hazard, bots will get stuck on it and slowly lose health since they keep trying to go through to realize the hazard once again. They may occasionally go through the fire but never around it, UNLESS a player does so (Since they ultimately follow the player). You gotta remember that these are bots from the 2000s. They gotta react to a lot of unexpected events throughout a wide variety of places and spots, and this was a game released for older consoles. They didn't have enough hardware power back then to bring the bots higher in intelligence since L4D also uses The Director, a real time AI which constantly decides what's about to happen at any given moment, and that's as power consuming as it sounds. But yeah, in short, bots will, 9/10 times, wait for temporary hazards to go off unless you guide them through an alternative route
Not really a good idea, note if you are pinned and down by enemies it will take time before they can rescue you. Sometimes its futile becuase of your rule #1.
At the end I try not to leave them behind once they go down unless there's a really big horde on my way or I can't cover them,most of the time I'm forced to leave them behind but on those times I don't,they feel like an accomplishment
Unless you're a pro at this where you have the ability to shove jumping Jockies and Hunters or dodge the charge of the Charger or spot a Spitter and a Smoker before they even get to you. Those specials will terminate a stray so no, unless you're a die hard l4d gamer.
There is a mod on the workshop that improves bot ai. They’ll pick up throwables, medkits, and then they are able to pass them to you now. They will help you refuel stuff or do whatever needs to be done in order to survive. I honestly love it 😂😂
Then decided to shot you to dead together with the other bots... Yea my bot killed me in the realism expert bruhhh.. I guess he already had enough of BS 😅
The sheer anxiety that builds up when you know your on the other side of the building & the chopper just arrived is insane. You know the hordes gonna get crazy, & that one invincible tank is gonna show up to ruin your day. Seriously I rarely make it out with the whole group, it's either one person dies or only one person survives.
I’ll never forget playing this with my roommates on the hardest setting, getting to the helipad, and having the tanker smack me clear off the top of the building.
In memory of Bill, Zoey, Louis, who stayed behind because they were contemplating about the state of the city they are in and thinking about their life.
Thats not really practical as bots will go to the escape once all allies are revived. In addition you are in no danger once you are in (not including instances like in dead center map wherein you are never in but outside).
For some reason, i find l4d2 ally bots dumb. When I play with bots in l4d2 most of the time they get left behind and wanders off too far ahead that makes them easy target or special infecteds. Then also, whenever rescue arrives they just don't come and follow me to board the chopper. One ocasion is when I was already inside the chopper for like 10 secs and coach just decided not to board and made his own last stand that got him yeeted by a tank
“For some reason, i find L4D2 ally bots dumb.” Way to stick out from the crowd. Also, the other problems (besides maybe the helicopter thing) sound like your problem. Waiting for another member of the team is always what you should do, unless y’all are at low HP, and it’s a run to the saferoom crescendo.
I think because the voice actors of these L4D2 characters already talked in a lot of movies and series, that could be a very nice addon Idea, to allow them to use a much broader vocabulary.
I have them on advanced i cannot keep up with them on regular anymore 😅 it gets annoying and more annoying dying multiple times just trying to save them and it feels sad if you abandoned them after trying but can't make it when ever you dont have medkits on you.
There's something with bots when you throw a pipe bomb. they kinda just turned off or something. I mean I remember them being hit by a zombie and do nothing about untill the pipe bomb explodes then and only then they start reacting (Shoving that one zombie and shoot him)
On pc you can use z or x to say things and the bots will respond and actually do what you tell them to do like the hurry and lets go voice lines with get all of them to group up and rush up to you.
For mostly playing with bots in my whole life I can say that you mostly have to be near them not too near for them tos stand still or too far that make them lost trace of you. They kidda program to just die if player leave them behind. And only target zombie in front of player behind it just a very rare chance that they do atk but not that often
There was a time when I wanted to complete Dead Center on expert and the bots just followed me, they didn't even attack, they were just standing there when a zombie came and I lost.
Been running through the valve capaigns on expert with my daughter recently. We call the AI the dumbbutts. About the only thing they're good for is becoming fodder when you need to escape.
lol thats because he got damaged twice in the spitt thing and when bots get damaged once in spitt (executing their path) their go back and wait for like 7 seconds which cause many annoyings ocurrances
![[SFM] Contagious Idiocy](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMIAY6DFYZ0/mqdefault.jpg)
Gun mod in this video
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Can you give a link to blood add-on in your video?
@@PiracySonic it's ULTRA PARTICLE MOD ON STEAM
@@PiracySonic EZ TO FIND
@@left4catz thanks man. Appreciate it
Link did'nt work, can you send again?
“Hoho, I thought you were always for sure, but THE CHOPPERS HERE!!”
hoho here
toast for sure*
Foreshadowing that the bot was gonna die
Get to the CHOPPA!!!!
Bart, i dont want to alarm you, but THE CHOPPERS HERE
BILL sacrifices himself on early
lol
Bro couldn't wait til the sacrifice campaign
😂😂😂😂
Hes tired of the crew lol
the zombie flinging at the start of the cutscene killed me
Same
Left 4 death plays
Funfact its actually not cutscenes its happening in real time.
@@contra7631 yes i called them cutscenes cause idk what to call them
@@chez36i think real time cutscenes
Postal 2 utilizes the same cutscene thing as l4d does its like in real time so if you put a dynamite on were the npcs are going to start their speech the cutscene will just keep playing normally but without them cuz they dead
Bots just lose all concept of movement if they get hit by spitter goo and it’s the most annoying thing in the whole game 😂😂
Idk
@@AmericanCitizen677 same
Huh must have been a rare glitch never had that problem.
I could make it through full campaigns on expert level until I got to the end of the final stage. But I still loved it
@@greendude7650 if the bots get hit by spitter goo they move away from the goo and then just stop moving until the goo is gone, you could run ahead and have them behind you after getting hit by the goo and they still won’t progress forward with you until the goo is gone. Idk if this is by design or just a bug but I get it every single time a bot gets hit by goo
That zombie went flying lol
😂😂😂😂 is true
What so true?
You mean I saw it flying
I was looking for this comment XD
Yeet
they start to believe 😂
dude really said something motivating but changed his mind to the rescue chopper
🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤
children today will never understand this desperation
Wrong, Case in point: My friend whose been playing l4d2 for about two years and has caused me to become obsessed with old valve titles, not just TF2.
@@builderbennythats good play the classics cause the new games these days severely lack entertainment and quality you will have more fun with friends on l4d series and other valve titles than anything cod could bring to the table
I've been running through them all on expert with my daughter. She know that pain all too well, now.
Gmod is still hilarious to play with friends especially prop hunt and next bot chases.
I do man, i dont know how i did it but i survived dark carnival at the cost of my team dying
Too early, Bill. Too early.
That's an easy one. Whenever bots encounter a ground hazard (Be it fire from a gascan, molotov or environmental, or a Spitter's acid to mention a few examples), if the hazard is temporary, they will back off to the closest safe spot there is and wait for it to end, even if they can just easily go around.
They're not that dumb, they just refuse to lose HP to a spitter's acid. If you wanted him to keep moving you should've anticipated the spit and went around it so the bot would follow and not get stuck.
You gotta always remember that bots can't "see" as we do, they move through predefined routes and that's it. Bots in L4D don't create new routes in real time so if their path is blocked they will just wait for it to "fix itself"
This is a problem in Dead Center. In the first chapter, before you reach the elevator, there's a few rooms whose doors can be broken who will extend a fire to the main corridor. Since it's not a permanent hazard, bots will get stuck on it and slowly lose health since they keep trying to go through to realize the hazard once again. They may occasionally go through the fire but never around it, UNLESS a player does so (Since they ultimately follow the player).
You gotta remember that these are bots from the 2000s. They gotta react to a lot of unexpected events throughout a wide variety of places and spots, and this was a game released for older consoles. They didn't have enough hardware power back then to bring the bots higher in intelligence since L4D also uses The Director, a real time AI which constantly decides what's about to happen at any given moment, and that's as power consuming as it sounds.
But yeah, in short, bots will, 9/10 times, wait for temporary hazards to go off unless you guide them through an alternative route
The reason is that if spitter goo is in a nav square, they will avoid the entire square, instead of just where the goo is.
Mucho texto
the dude on the chopper gonna pretend nothing happened
Pilot wanted to do some good, but realized it wasn't worth it. Instantly veering off to the right.
Better alive with them dead than everybody including YOU dead
that ending music alone gives me heavy flashbacks of saving bots while we're being chased by 3 tanks
Did you escape because my secret weapon is adrenaline shot.
Never a bad moment on left 4 dead 2
Bro the way I'd jump up when playing like the zombies would get me
Infected
@@Shadow_company87 you guys still alive?
@@tailmid yup
The Infected: Yay, I can fly! 😄
Rule #1 when playing L4D: Leave the BOTS behind
Not really a good idea,
note if you are pinned and down by enemies it will take time before they can rescue you. Sometimes its futile becuase of your rule #1.
At the end I try not to leave them behind once they go down unless there's a really big horde on my way or I can't cover them,most of the time I'm forced to leave them behind but on those times I don't,they feel like an accomplishment
Unless you're a pro at this where you have the ability to shove jumping Jockies and Hunters or dodge the charge of the Charger or spot a Spitter and a Smoker before they even get to you. Those specials will terminate a stray so no, unless you're a die hard l4d gamer.
The bots gonna teleport to you anyway if you are too far, it is a legit way to play
@@thegrimreaper6926I think learning to shove hunters is easier than jockeys.
honestly your not getting the full experience if you don’t have the bots doing something completely stupid in left for dead
:))
The zombie that knockbacked so high
For sure thought that tank was gonna enter that chopper and smack you off of the building for a second🤣
🤣
No wonder why that pilot got bitten, it was the damn bot.
fr💀
Bill: For you, Francis! Not For me!
not bill himself foreshadowing the Sacrifice 😂
There is a mod on the workshop that improves bot ai. They’ll pick up throwables, medkits, and then they are able to pass them to you now. They will help you refuel stuff or do whatever needs to be done in order to survive. I honestly love it 😂😂
They even once finished the campaign with me being dead in the beginning of the chapter
@@dayanchik_skd yea it’s awesome. They ain’t just brainless followers no more
Then decided to shot you to dead together with the other bots... Yea my bot killed me in the realism expert bruhhh.. I guess he already had enough of BS 😅
The sheer anxiety that builds up when you know your on the other side of the building & the chopper just arrived is insane. You know the hordes gonna get crazy, & that one invincible tank is gonna show up to ruin your day. Seriously I rarely make it out with the whole group, it's either one person dies or only one person survives.
lool the spitter broke their pathing
The way Francis just switches his voice line is actually perfect, adds to the movie feel of Left 4 Dead
That zombie had magnificent air time almost brought me to tears
bro the zombie flying on the final is crazy
I’ll never forget playing this with my roommates on the hardest setting, getting to the helipad, and having the tanker smack me clear off the top of the building.
That common got sent flyin by that chopper 😭
In memory of Bill, Zoey, Louis, who stayed behind because they were contemplating about the state of the city they are in and thinking about their life.
The zombie who went flying at the end 😭😂
I saw that and I died of laughter when I rewatched it😂
"The more you try to understand a bot, the more unpredictable it is" - Some guy
The infected flying at the end 💀
Bots are the best until one guy goes down and all logic goes out the window
Still better bot than a multiplayer game nowdays ngl
That's why I get enhanced bot mods
I did too, but there still just about as bad
That's why I play with real people
What does it do?
@@thegrimreaper6926 when you die they still go to the safe house
The tank throwing the rock at the heli had me ded 😂😂
I think the spitter goo prevented the bot from walking to the helicopter, maybe? I’m not a game dev
I will not lie, I have killed the bots everytime in expert when the escape is here. Its just too risky to for them to figure it out
Thats not really practical as bots will go to the escape once all allies are revived. In addition you are in no danger once you are in (not including instances like in dead center map wherein you are never in but outside).
Gonna love the perfect timing.
Edit: I meant that Francis was about to say something to motivate her but he changed his mind for the chopper XD
I love Left 4 Dead so much i pray every day for a 3rd one
For some reason, i find l4d2 ally bots dumb. When I play with bots in l4d2 most of the time they get left behind and wanders off too far ahead that makes them easy target or special infecteds. Then also, whenever rescue arrives they just don't come and follow me to board the chopper. One ocasion is when I was already inside the chopper for like 10 secs and coach just decided not to board and made his own last stand that got him yeeted by a tank
LOL
“For some reason, i find L4D2 ally bots dumb.” Way to stick out from the crowd.
Also, the other problems (besides maybe the helicopter thing) sound like your problem. Waiting for another member of the team is always what you should do, unless y’all are at low HP, and it’s a run to the saferoom crescendo.
I think because the voice actors of these L4D2 characters already talked in a lot of movies and series, that could be a very nice addon Idea, to allow them to use a much broader vocabulary.
It is like a real life. Sometime, we have to leave some people behind to move forward.
>Tank hucks a concrete boulder at the helicopter
>Helicopter doesn't take any damage
Logic
That acid puddle stopped him and you didnt stay there to cover him like a good teammate
Hold up ...let me heal ya
(0.1 meters from the escape vehicle with a tank hot on your heels )
Oh oh, I thought you were hosed for sure but,...THE CHOPPER'S HERE LET'S GO! 🤣
Bill, this is not the Sacrifice, wrong campaign, spare some *mercy*
Nobody noticed how the chopper tanked that concrete slab? 😂
*bro seen the moon* 😂😂😂
That zombie launch though 😂
that's what makes no mercy rooftop an hard level
Bro have the 2010 left 4 dead 2 *skull emoji*
The tank really just be like “what’s up bro, where you headin’?”
I have them on advanced i cannot keep up with them on regular anymore 😅 it gets annoying and more annoying dying multiple times just trying to save them and it feels sad if you abandoned them after trying but can't make it when ever you dont have medkits on you.
There's something with bots when you throw a pipe bomb. they kinda just turned off or something. I mean I remember them being hit by a zombie and do nothing about untill the pipe bomb explodes then and only then they start reacting (Shoving that one zombie and shoot him)
I think Bill had to have his blaze of glory death off screen xD
Chopper survived a tanker
On pc you can use z or x to say things and the bots will respond and actually do what you tell them to do like the hurry and lets go voice lines with get all of them to group up and rush up to you.
Correct me if im wrong but we the players are carries (infected that show no symptoms) and it all makes sense why the two Pilots become infected
Haven’t completed this campaign in so long I forgot there was a heli pickup 😂
Bot : "meh im dont trust helicopter"
For mostly playing with bots in my whole life I can say that you mostly have to be near them not too near for them tos stand still or too far that make them lost trace of you. They kidda program to just die if player leave them behind. And only target zombie in front of player behind it just a very rare chance that they do atk but not that often
There was a time when I wanted to complete Dead Center on expert and the bots just followed me, they didn't even attack, they were just standing there when a zombie came and I lost.
🤓
@@left4catzwhat
MW(2019) animations on left 4 dead default weapons seems a little cursed
Tank threw a rock at the helicopter and nothing happened 😂
They only go when there's not much zombies ahead, They don't go when there's much zombies
The weapon sounds its nice.
Man that chopper buff the rock
if she spat, it's better to get around her than not to reach the helicopter
"Im down..." 😂
I WANT THIS GAME SOOOO BADLY.
I swear this Louis bot was revived next to trash fire and he just stood there and died. I was both dumbfounded and annoyed 😂
The tank once went into the helicopter and we all lost.
bot at last fight will slow you, just like other zombies. just leave them, dont take risk. i learn that every single time play this game
I think they were waiting for the spit to end
Bots in this game are more infuriating than any other game.
Still love it though
Sometimes theyre special eds amd sometimes theyre grade A students.
explanation : he stopped moving becuase of the spit infront of him
i use a addon that makes my BOTS a little smarter and with the ability to toss pipebombs, ect.
Just imagine as soon you leap inside the chopper the smoker gets you lol
This game helped bind me and my bros
I swear the bots got dumber for some reason. Like getting pinned by Hunter or Smoker, they'll just look until I'm down.
Oh yeah. I know that feeling.
Ill never reealt understand them.
Yeah, bots just don’t actually have proper path system, when they need to get out of spitter’s acid
Good old day finishing story mode with my cousin
El zombi: hoy me voy al sol.🗣🔥
This is why i kicking them, sometimes two, and playing it in 3rd person 😎👌 feels like playing resident evil which is my top 1 fav game
Been running through the valve capaigns on expert with my daughter recently. We call the AI the dumbbutts. About the only thing they're good for is becoming fodder when you need to escape.
Rest in peace bill zoe louise
The zombie just spin jump to heaven by getting hit by the slicers of the helicopter to fly.😂😂😂
wow nice grafic🥰
lol thats because he got damaged twice in the spitt thing and when bots get damaged once in spitt (executing their path) their go back and wait for like 7 seconds which cause many annoyings ocurrances
Hence why I love the improved AI mods.
Haha that zombies body went flying 😂
Zombie be like:
I beleve i can fly
the bots were only helpful on easy mode. they became stupider the higher level.
ragdolls at the end XDDDD
The sacrifice spoiler 😂
Bill went flying at the end