Love to watch you play,win or lose. I have built some of these ships (plastic models). The digital forms seem to be pretty accurate. I have the Arizona on the shelf now. It is a funny thought that in my youth I had friends that would play these kind of games with models in a back yard,each side had a base to defend! Used rubber band guns and differrent size fish weights for salvos! That was the sixties! Now that the digital age is here,you can play sitting in air conditioning and not destroy your favorite model!
I love this ship too. I saw all the talk before it was released about how it sucks on pc and it’s an experts ship, not forgiving at all (as if any cruisers are) etc and I bought it anyways. I love it being tier 5 too, that’s like a sweet spot for gameplay.
Not it technically isn’t a battlecruiser or a pocket battleship. It’s technically a panzershiff, or armored ship. This was the German designation during the reichsmarine and in the following weirmar Republic for Battleship. It was built to replace the German pre dreadnoughts which had comparable armament and size and weight. However it was faster, this is why the British called it a pocket battleship.
I use the Sharnhorst as a battering ram! The thing is meant to go balls deep! I adjusted my commander to be a blend of tank and accuracy. Last night I killed 2 Amagis by charging them and torping them. The secondaries light them on fire and the torps floor them out.
Hey Spartan, love the videos and the gameplay is awesome keep up the great work! I had a 157k damage game in the Kagero the other day on PS4 and I was trying to send it to you bc I thought you’d get a laugh out of it but didn’t know how to reach out to you. Keep up the good work Spartan!
If you can upload to a file share like onedrive or Google drive send me the download link to my facebook.com/SpartanElite43 and I will hold it for when I start doing community replays
Great review! I was strongly considering buying this ship, but I've fallen behind on the grind for Tirpitz, so I'll more than likely have to pay out the remainder of the challenge. Only so many doubloons to go around.
Still love this ship. I set her up for speed and agility. You have to remember that she’s a cruiser with small battleship guns and good torpedoes. Try to stay away from gunfights with battleships, and hunt down cruisers. I’ve had tons of really good games in her, but if you show your broadside much, you will be deleted like any other cruiser.
@@zzirSnipzz1 her torps are slow and their range is shorter than her detection range so in order to use them you have to get spotted. Her guns make her a great DD killer but her torps are really only good for BB ambushes.
@@Volksgenossen ambush, or shoot torps at a bb thats coming towards you they will run into them have done that two years ago, even took out a kongo by using islands to get my emerald into range and he ran into a giant torp salvo
I've just bought this ship 😀 took it out for the first time . sweet 💞 New to the game the grandkids order for me Christmas 🌲 2020 . At 61 enjoying it immensely
i have to add that the most dangerous thing you encounter with the Graf Spee are DDs with long range torpedos! Thats why i use Lütjens as a commander. I tried Müller but i always got torped and with Lütjens that does not happen that often anymore because you can increase your sonar range +1200m for torpedos. the 280mm guns still do what they do best.
Ok the bow on is not always a bad thing against DD's Torpedo Beats is a thing even in a BB and sometimes the idea is picking how many torps you do end up eating.
I like this ship. Its not OP but you can have some fun with it. I run an AP damage accuracy build.( Lutjens and Scot) Muller as primary. It needs some max speed so it can bug out if its to hot. Quad torps is nice but I don't like putting anything into it.
Thank you for helping me get a good feel for this ship. Other videos really don't do it justice and are all negative through and through, I'm going to get it! Want to add someone to your friends list to play with?? I'm on xb1 lol
@@SpartanElite43 well you definitely charged in last night lol. I gave you my broad side only once and you gave me quite a beating with it. Seems like although there are only two turrets they pack a punch
Your pronounciation was actually pretty good :-) But I always wonder why foreigners(especially English speakers) rolling the rrrrrrr so much hehe. Grrrrraffff Schpeeee :-) Anyway, good video, I like the Spee. But I suck in wows, since I am still beginner, so Torpedos still get me down easily
Too be honest I'm just about to try it then to save for upgrades, great video nice German ship, I don't have a premium account so won't be getting it yet, I did pay for a battleship game on mobile until they did a update once and made the rockets etc look cartoon ish. This game looks great, can be better in graphics, but it's ok
I may get this ship..as the kreigsmarine are the only ship lines i have success with. Idk if that's a thing. Like i thought i was just bad at destroyers cause i kept dying in the japan line destroyers while having really good games in the german destroyers..i think the battering ram play style is what the german ships tend to be about and i think that is my play style..all the ships can take hits and i love to brawl.
Im not sure if you tried the german destroyers yet would be interested to see ur take. My impression to me is they can do alittle of everything while being able to take some hits. The concealment is pretty good too. My current tier is at 99. Edit: actually u mention the bigger health pool in one of ur videos which is how i decided to give em a shot.
@@SpartanElite43 was thinking last night about possible video idea. You could do top ten ships by level."my favourite level 4 ships" etc. Would appeal to new people, and you could then link to your videos on each ship. I know you do it when the ranked season comes, and I always appreciate that advice.
It’s weird that this ship is doing decent because the last time I played this ship in the PC version it was hot garbage. Glad you love it, maybe I’ll give it a go 🤔
Kamikaze for destroyer, Atlanta/Graf Spee for cruiser, Battleships could be several though I've not got them all, Warspite, Texas, Arizona, or Scharhorst all are good
@@SpartanElite43 its also why the game is almost death startend on pc same reason p2w and yes there is not one real reason to say its not its only played by diehard fans and there doing the same on console the really dont know how to get more player anny more and this is the problem with all devs now
You made this video a while ago so I hope you see my comment....try this build and tell me what you think. I use a unorthodox build with this ship and im loving it so far. Run otto ciliax on it yes I understand he is a battleship commander, but man the secondaries aren't that bad so I use ottos secondary buffs with hipper as a inspiration taking your secondarys to 6.1km which isn't bad at tier 5... and other inspiration being john jellicoe to further buff your heal ..then I use all of ottos survivability skills....a good days work,firefighter,and master mechanic, with will to rebuild as a legend skill.....I do the same thing you do I rush and shove it right down their faces, with otto you become very very tanky with really decent secondary action you should try it man really really fun......i have a couple unorthodox builds but im only willing to share this one lol the others are to op and I dont want them nerfed lol.
Hi Spartan. Nice that you show us this ship but..... I thought you like American battleship's? ( That's been said😂😂😂) where's " Meet the Arizona" then? Huh? Please if you can. Regards CuraheePL
Why is it with the exception of the Arkansas, I always feel like a dupe for buying a premium ship. None of them are worth the money. Maybe the de grasse is
The problem with his prenounciation is that says it as if it was 'SPE' it's 'SPEE' his prenounciation is to short. Fun fact the Graf Spee was the last ship in the class and the first sunk in the class(then Deutschland(Lützow) and last the Admiral Scheer).Hope you like water on the Spee,it's got quite a bit of salt.
The Graf and SH guns were never big enough. Believe they were not even a 12 inch gun. Compared to the 12 14 and 16 inch guns they went up against. See you in a match soon foolproofscroll
In WWI, the Germans had quite good 11in guns (283mm)...the ballistics were a close match to the u.s. and British 12inch... The Panzerschiffe (literally "armored ships") of the Deutschland class were intended to operate on their own, and outgun what they couldn't outrun. They encounter a convoy with a cruiser covering force, they can engage...they encounter one of the Revenge class with 8 15inch guns...they ring up 28 knots and look for a different convoy... They created quite a stir in the Royal Navy, since the only ships that could catch them AND outgun them were the Hood, Renown, and Repulse... Air power and torpedoes altered the equation in the war, but before it started, these 3 ships were quite a theoretical challenge for the RN...
Spartan Elite43 that’s some bullshit, because that’s where this ship belongs. I’m not a huge fan of taking this thing against Bismarck’s and gneisnaus. But even then spee is still probably my most played ship, I’ve used her to farm xp.
Battle Cruisers Historically were Cruisers Armed with Battleship Caliber guns so Basically 10 inch guns and bigger but not as much armor as battleships because they were built for speed and firepower and had to compromise
@@SpartanElite43 every historian and article book , also game classified the graf spee as a heavy cruiser . Brithish battle cruiser had bigger gun and more armor than her … so yup is a heavy cruiser
Love to watch you play,win or lose. I have built some of these ships (plastic models). The digital forms seem to be pretty accurate. I have the Arizona on the shelf now. It is a funny thought that in my youth I had friends that would play these kind of games with models in a back yard,each side had a base to defend! Used rubber band guns and differrent size fish weights for salvos! That was the sixties! Now that the digital age is here,you can play sitting in air conditioning and not destroy your favorite model!
Lol yeah a lot has changed
Nothing better than watching Spartan at 5 AM during a hurricane!
I got ya man! Stay safe
6hr update you dead?
박해진
Nope I’m good😂
@@snitzledck2 good shit homie
박해진
Hell yeah! Skrew Dorian!
Oh the hate mail I get when I use this ship!! Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Haha
Lol
why get hate mail it is so easy to kill at least on pc
Who are you?
Thats right, Graf SPEE not Spay. Nice German, dude :D. Greeting from Germany 💪
Hello back from Ohio! Also congrats on becoming a CC
@@SpartanElite43 Thank you, I congratulate you too :)
Adlerwache ich dachte nicht das du spartan elite 43 kennst
Did not expect to see adlerwache here but... hallo wie gehts adlerwache
@@gustav1214 mir geht's gut, hoffe dir auch :)
I love this ship too. I saw all the talk before it was released about how it sucks on pc and it’s an experts ship, not forgiving at all (as if any cruisers are) etc and I bought it anyways. I love it being tier 5 too, that’s like a sweet spot for gameplay.
It is good at being the pusher just gotta watch going broadside
Keep it coming Spartan! It always makes me chuckle listening to you; solid review as always.
Glad you enjoy
That is how a lot of my games go in this ship as well. Great honest first look man!
I tend to be too aggressive but it is so much fun
Not it technically isn’t a battlecruiser or a pocket battleship. It’s technically a panzershiff, or armored ship. This was the German designation during the reichsmarine and in the following weirmar Republic for Battleship. It was built to replace the German pre dreadnoughts which had comparable armament and size and weight. However it was faster, this is why the British called it a pocket battleship.
You nailed the video double, im proud of you buddie. I give this video an A++👍👏👏👏
Awesome!
Now you are making me wish I had the money for this ship btw nice first look
It's definitely a good one
I got it, it was a must have for me
I use the Sharnhorst as a battering ram! The thing is meant to go balls deep! I adjusted my commander to be a blend of tank and accuracy. Last night I killed 2 Amagis by charging them and torping them. The secondaries light them on fire and the torps floor them out.
I may have to revisit the Scharnhorst
Thank you for the honest analysis Spartan
Cautious and avoid open water will be my modus operandi
You can be aggressive just gotta watch out for those 203mm guns
As someone who plays way too aggressively and hardly ever survives to the end, this may be my ticket.
The Graf is amazing in the shove it down their throat role
Lol, same😂 I like running and gun firing on all 8 cylinders
Hey Spartan, love the videos and the gameplay is awesome keep up the great work! I had a 157k damage game in the Kagero the other day on PS4 and I was trying to send it to you bc I thought you’d get a laugh out of it but didn’t know how to reach out to you. Keep up the good work Spartan!
If you can upload to a file share like onedrive or Google drive send me the download link to my facebook.com/SpartanElite43 and I will hold it for when I start doing community replays
Awesome I will work on that!
Great review! I was strongly considering buying this ship, but I've fallen behind on the grind for Tirpitz, so I'll more than likely have to pay out the remainder of the challenge. Only so many doubloons to go around.
I know the feeling!
Jody Allen join the club!!
Still love this ship. I set her up for speed and agility. You have to remember that she’s a cruiser with small battleship guns and good torpedoes. Try to stay away from gunfights with battleships, and hunt down cruisers. I’ve had tons of really good games in her, but if you show your broadside much, you will be deleted like any other cruiser.
I totally agree.
Farragut only has 2x4 torpedoes and it has a long reload time compared to the other DDs of its tier, like 88 seconds I think.
has faster firing guns snd great fro ambushes the torps do decent damage
@@zzirSnipzz1 her torps are slow and their range is shorter than her detection range so in order to use them you have to get spotted.
Her guns make her a great DD killer but her torps are really only good for BB ambushes.
@@Volksgenossen ambush, or shoot torps at a bb thats coming towards you they will run into them have done that two years ago, even took out a kongo by using islands to get my emerald into range and he ran into a giant torp salvo
I've just bought this ship 😀 took it out for the first time . sweet 💞
New to the game the grandkids order for me Christmas 🌲 2020 .
At 61 enjoying it immensely
Welcome to the game and the channel! Hope you enjoy for a long time
This video got me the graf spee.
i have to add that the most dangerous thing you encounter with the Graf Spee are DDs with long range torpedos! Thats why i use Lütjens as a commander. I tried Müller but i always got torped and with Lütjens that does not happen that often anymore because you can increase your sonar range +1200m for torpedos.
the 280mm guns still do what they do best.
That's a nice lookin thumbnail Spartan! Great game too. I want me a graf spee!
That it is!
I can see turrets getting knocked out being a huge problem in this boat
12:36 iron duck😂
You like that? Lol
Great vid as always, Spartan. Are you planning on a Gneisenau vid or not?
If I ever get a video worthy game in it. So far it has been a pile of failure
Spartan Elite43 Oh great, that’ll be a fun grind.
Spartan Elite43 Oh great, that’ll be a fun grind. Thanks for the reply.
@@SpartanElite43 😯 how dare you speak of such Blasphemy?
Ok the bow on is not always a bad thing against DD's Torpedo Beats is a thing even in a BB and sometimes the idea is picking how many torps you do end up eating.
Yeah I usually avoid most of them and eat 1
Historically it was one of the Germans most powerful naval ships
Well I bought this ship and I can’t regret it it’s a really good one
I like this ship. Its not OP but you can have some fun with it.
I run an AP damage accuracy build.( Lutjens and Scot) Muller as primary.
It needs some max speed so it can bug out if its to hot.
Quad torps is nice but I don't like putting anything into it.
10:14
>No torpedobeats
Why Spartan, why?
Historically, it does wreck havoc so,..doing it in game does justice to it, no harm there.
I enjoy shoving the ship right down the enemy's throat
I’m looking forward to getting this ship for a 50% discount in two weeks and by watching your video I’m getting excellent value
It's got potential just gotta learn to balance aggression
I got it free in a crate
My favorite German Cruiser.
You call em battering rams, I call em the "Bull in the China Shop"... feel the same way about the German BBs and the Arkansas
It is quite a lot of fun
Thank you for helping me get a good feel for this ship. Other videos really don't do it justice and are all negative through and through, I'm going to get it! Want to add someone to your friends list to play with?? I'm on xb1 lol
It's far from a bad ship I almost always get 60k damage in it before I go down.
@@SpartanElite43 definitely going to get. My 1st premium ship was de grasse and my 1st game i had 12 citadel hits lol
Good video, keep up the good work!
I just bought this in a 8000 bundle, it was on sale. *Edit* Also, loved the Arizona, he was my favorite part of the match.
Great vid as usual!
I actually killed you in the Graf Spee last night, and I'm gunna be honest, it felt goooooood :D
GG
Yeah a lot of folks killed me in it last night but I got quite a bit of fun running straight into fight rather than holding back
@@SpartanElite43 well you definitely charged in last night lol. I gave you my broad side only once and you gave me quite a beating with it. Seems like although there are only two turrets they pack a punch
@@mintdavronxboxone4547 283mm battleship guns 3 per turret.
I bought this on pc loved it..gg mate
Noice! Thanks
Great video, I will drop a like and subscribe.ty
And watch for new Mexicos as well. I one shotted this cruiser in the new Mexico at I think 13km
Your pronounciation was actually pretty good :-) But I always wonder why foreigners(especially English speakers) rolling the rrrrrrr so much hehe. Grrrrraffff Schpeeee :-)
Anyway, good video, I like the Spee. But I suck in wows, since I am still beginner, so Torpedos still get me down easily
Oh no now I screwed that up..... I tried so hard! ;(
@@SpartanElite43 You doing great man, I.am just teasing! I am native German from Berlin and I love your videos, so please keep on doing more :-)
Holy hell so many sailing broadside
Some people really have NO idea what they’re doing
Yeah the game is full of em but to be fair spartan does seem to be learning lol!
Just showing off with all your ships lol I've got my iowa now will watch this vid later :)
Nice what do you think so far?
Too be honest I'm just about to try it then to save for upgrades, great video nice German ship, I don't have a premium account so won't be getting it yet, I did pay for a battleship game on mobile until they did a update once and made the rockets etc look cartoon ish.
This game looks great, can be better in graphics, but it's ok
You pronounced Graf Spee right!
Good job!
Thanks
could you do some more videos on which commanders are best for which type of ships for each country
I have a guide for each nations commanders in my quick guides playlist
@@SpartanElite43 ok thank you i will take a look
graf SPEE
PERFECTION
How do you change the harbour/dockyard on the Xbox version? I know how to change it on PC, but can't for the life of me figure it out on Xbox.
I dont think you can
The prononciation is correct.
What's the best ship for farming credits 🤔
Probably a low tier ship like tier 4 omaha or konigsberg
Scharnhorst has been the best for me. Usually average between 300k to over 500k a game sometimes lol
Andreas Müller Atlanta works for me. Easily do 300-400k
What about Lujens with sponge and By the book
Nice review Spartan, SH guns hmmmm
Most powerful guns on a cruiser in the game
@@SpartanElite43 still SH guns now I love my SH but the guns are temperamental
What the two upgrades you recommend, just bought it and I’m on ps4, thank you.
I got this for free from a crate. Ive never spent a penny on this game but love it!
Nice congrats
What's the new event, can u make a video of what to ecpect
I may get this ship..as the kreigsmarine are the only ship lines i have success with. Idk if that's a thing.
Like i thought i was just bad at destroyers cause i kept dying in the japan line destroyers while having really good games in the german destroyers..i think the battering ram play style is what the german ships tend to be about and i think that is my play style..all the ships can take hits and i love to brawl.
It's all about finding what works for you! Fun fact is that varies for everyone
Im not sure if you tried the german destroyers yet would be interested to see ur take.
My impression to me is they can do alittle of everything while being able to take some hits.
The concealment is pretty good too. My current tier is at 99.
Edit: actually u mention the bigger health pool in one of ur videos which is how i decided to give em a shot.
Best ship in the game, for its level. Its God mode
Haha i just use it for yolos and its pretty effective
@@SpartanElite43 was thinking last night about possible video idea. You could do top ten ships by level."my favourite level 4 ships" etc. Would appeal to new people, and you could then link to your videos on each ship. I know you do it when the ranked season comes, and I always appreciate that advice.
It’s weird that this ship is doing decent because the last time I played this ship in the PC version it was hot garbage. Glad you love it, maybe I’ll give it a go 🤔
I've been averaging close to 70k a game using it hyper aggressively
😦 holy cow!!!! That sounds amazing! They must’ve done some re-working for the PS4, that or I’m an awful captain 😂. Loved the video! Keep it up
which premium ship is the most worthy to buy to this day ? ( i'm bb and cruiser gamer)
Kamikaze for destroyer, Atlanta/Graf Spee for cruiser, Battleships could be several though I've not got them all, Warspite, Texas, Arizona, or Scharhorst all are good
The Indy is pretty fun
What's the ship stats?
Gameplay starts at 0:00 lol
Salty Spartan is the best Spartan.
€40 are the out off there dam mind
That is always of question but they keep getting buyers
@@SpartanElite43 its also why the game is almost death startend on pc same reason p2w and yes there is not one real reason to say its not its only played by diehard fans and there doing the same on console the really dont know how to get more player anny more and this is the problem with all devs now
How do you aim in wows legends cuz I can't figure out how to aim
Left trigger. Then trial and error for figuring out how far you need to lead a ship
Is there like an exact science for aiming?
Could of sworn that wargaming said this would be a tier 6 ship when they first announced it
Good news is it isn't makes it a better ship
Spartan: Graf Spee (Butchers it)
Me: Face palm 🤦♂️
I am beginning to think that all the fun is at tier 5. I play my Belfast for cash. But games with six T7s when you are a T6 cruiser can be brutal.
I just won this in a free crate
Extremely late comment, but I’m confused, I randomly received this ship for free..? Is there a reason for this?? Or was it just a lucky bug??
Maybe a free crate drop?
@@SpartanElite43 🤷♀️
How much have you spent $ so far on this game Spartan?
Oh God I try not to think about that
🤣
Did anybody else notice that the orange he was only using his back f***ing guns
I just got this for 4k in the store. Maybe she was slightly used. 😂
You made this video a while ago so I hope you see my comment....try this build and tell me what you think. I use a unorthodox build with this ship and im loving it so far. Run otto ciliax on it yes I understand he is a battleship commander, but man the secondaries aren't that bad so I use ottos secondary buffs with hipper as a inspiration taking your secondarys to 6.1km which isn't bad at tier 5... and other inspiration being john jellicoe to further buff your heal ..then I use all of ottos survivability skills....a good days work,firefighter,and master mechanic, with will to rebuild as a legend skill.....I do the same thing you do I rush and shove it right down their faces, with otto you become very very tanky with really decent secondary action you should try it man really really fun......i have a couple unorthodox builds but im only willing to share this one lol the others are to op and I dont want them nerfed lol.
Just have to get the reload time down.
Hi Spartan. Nice that you show us this ship but..... I thought you like American battleship's? ( That's been said😂😂😂) where's " Meet the Arizona" then? Huh? Please if you can. Regards CuraheePL
I dont have the Arizona
@@SpartanElite43 time to get one maybe. 🙂
When do you play? I haven't once seen you online. You're the last streamer/youtuber on my list :-)
I murder this ship with the Atlanta and York.
No hate mail needed.
Tier 6 cruiser vs tier 5 cruiser I'd hope
Your using it like you should be using the...'wait for it'.....GNEISENAU!!
Lol but the g wagon doesn't live long enough
@@SpartanElite43 Did you see my vids? It used to, but I think they nerfed its armor. Havent been able to get a good game in it. Over nerfed honestly
You got adds Spartan is making fat bread
I killed 2 Graf Spees in my kid
Google says Graf Spee, like speed without d. I’m not German and don’t have German friends, so don’t know if it’s accurate
Why is it with the exception of the Arkansas, I always feel like a dupe for buying a premium ship. None of them are worth the money. Maybe the de grasse is
I personally am not a fan of the De Grasse she's just too squishy
I personally like the De Grasse, but if you want a premium worth the money go with Warspite. Very accurate and quite nimble for a battleship.
The problem with his prenounciation is that says it as if it was 'SPE' it's 'SPEE' his prenounciation is to short. Fun fact the Graf Spee was the last ship in the class and the first sunk in the class(then Deutschland(Lützow) and last the Admiral Scheer).Hope you like water on the Spee,it's got quite a bit of salt.
Lutgjens is so much better for Graf Spee than muller, Graf is the cruiser killer Queen, shes built to live Spartan!! Not die!!
The Graf and SH guns were never big enough. Believe they were not even a 12 inch gun. Compared to the 12 14 and 16 inch guns they went up against. See you in a match soon foolproofscroll
283mm just lack the punch needed to hurt BBs consistently
In WWI, the Germans had quite good 11in guns (283mm)...the ballistics were a close match to the u.s. and British 12inch...
The Panzerschiffe (literally "armored ships") of the Deutschland class were intended to operate on their own, and outgun what they couldn't outrun. They encounter a convoy with a cruiser covering force, they can engage...they encounter one of the Revenge class with 8 15inch guns...they ring up 28 knots and look for a different convoy...
They created quite a stir in the Royal Navy, since the only ships that could catch them AND outgun them were the Hood, Renown, and Repulse...
Air power and torpedoes altered the equation in the war, but before it started, these 3 ships were quite a theoretical challenge for the RN...
If it was spelled like it is pronounced; it would be SPEH.
Ya
It's not pronounced Graf Spee but Graf Spee
Lol
Its a cruiser killer but anything else.. hmm kinda meh
Sorry Ik u r trying to pronounce the Graf Spee correctly but it’s Graf Shpae. That’s how it’s pronounced
Nagato is 410 MM and Colorado is 406 MM. Thats a horrible match up against Graf spee
The graf spee drives terror in my heart whenever I see it
Problem is ur showing too much side
Graf spee is a t6
Nope on WoWsLegends it is tier 5
Spartan Elite43 that’s some bullshit, because that’s where this ship belongs. I’m not a huge fan of taking this thing against Bismarck’s and gneisnaus.
But even then spee is still probably my most played ship, I’ve used her to farm xp.
Is a heavy cruiser not a battle cruiser
Battle Cruisers Historically were Cruisers Armed with Battleship Caliber guns so Basically 10 inch guns and bigger but not as much armor as battleships because they were built for speed and firepower and had to compromise
@@SpartanElite43 every historian and article book , also game classified the graf spee as a heavy cruiser . Brithish battle cruiser had bigger gun and more armor than her … so yup is a heavy cruiser
@@TheJimyyy he said it was a heavy cruiser though
@@evobsm2328 nop
@@TheJimyyyUm, yes, he did.
Gotta love those nub bb players 😂
Lol not to mention the guy in the graf getting exposed by a Pensacola