Keep it, but change around what it offers. Instantly being removed from the game because you got unlucky one time is way too harsh imo. Actually, what if you replaced the percentage thing with a modified version of the Smash Casino? Each time someone wins a battle, they get to roll on a wheel that contains mostly good prizes (Like the one where all opponents start at 10% going forwards), with a few bad ones thrown in to spice things up? That way, advantage is based on how many people you've conquered rather than whether or not you managed to take out one big enemy. You could even add in a mostly negative wheel for when someone loses a match but triggers the Empire Clause, just so that losing still has some weight. Not sure exactly how well this idea would work, but I think it has some merit. Love the content, and I'm excited for the next video regardless of what rules you use.
Maybe it should incorporate sillier gimmicks? Like allowing certain Spirits to be equipped or making certain items drop a lot? Especially when both fighters could be affected. I think those types of things are a little more fitting for a game of random chance than just altering starting percentages.
Every since Alpharad discontinued his level 9 cpu tournament, I never realized how big of an itch it was to see Smash Bros CPUS fighting eachother So glad I found this
@@christeneguffey8096let’s see. You have one 1. Now let’s get half of 1, .5, now what’s one 1? 1. What’s 1 + .5? 1.5. What’s 1 * 2? 2… Anything times 1 is itself. *Keep that in mind going forward.*
@@JohnnyWonder12 No problem! I love all the new ideas in this one, but I think you should try changing some of the numbers just to see if anything works better than before. Looking forward to the next one!
Perhaps you could replace the percentage advantage in the next one with the conquered fighters? After owning a certain number of spaces, the reigning fighter gets to take a randomly selected member of their empire into battle with them as a teammate.
Byleth's chances got shattered instantly, the Smash Casino Wheel really did not want him to win again and he probably would of. The wheel probably wanted the other fighters to have a shot at being the champion. Perhaps the conditions could be toned down next time. Just like in true Fire Emblem fashion, Byleth got screwed by RNG.
I didn't think you would continue this master piece of an idea, still incredible, plus I feel liek 2 things could be done: A) Down for bottom row goes into top row, like Doodle Jump logic where it loops in on itself B) Maybe make the casino less RNG based, make it so a 3 stock rewards you with a casino visit, this making it more skill based, even if they can get negative effects.
Interesting how the 2 victors so far are both with mixed reactions to their arrivals (Byleth wasn't welcomed and Plant was essentially a joke character)
Honestly in my opinion, you should just keep the empire clause and keep it at that because the smash casino mainly depends on luck and the percentage disadvantage/advantage is just unfair.
These videos are serious commitment. I applaud your editing ability but also your patience for being willing to sit through all of these matches. Amazing work!
the first video was a funny randomizer thingy but with the added rules i was INVESTED this time. my world shattered when simon got killed three times by plant keep it up dude youre genuinely entertaining :D
5:36 So, what happened here is that Rosa jumped and started to charge up the Luma Launch thing. Then Little Mac unleashed the KO Uppercut, but right before it hit, Rosa sent out Luma. Mac was protected by KO Uppercut, but once it ended, Luma hit him.
If you turn on the setting that groups echo fighters, the board would be perfectly rectangular. But this would mean echo fighters start in a weird limbo? Idk your decision, this is a very entertaining series so keep up the great work!!!
The way you did this makes sense, but in both I still thought it would make more sense if winning only gave you the space that you were fighting with and that the fighters joined the team and did the fighting
Oh that's because I use my brother's account to record these, he's the one that has all the DLC, I only have Steve and Sora on my account, which is why those are the only dlc characters with stages therr
JohnnyWonder, I have genius idea… for next episode of this series, I have few suggestion… Since you have struggle with arrow rng, why not make this easier by set up all character who are on border, have access to wraparound the board, so for example, of Mario are point to west, and nothing there. Just wraparound to reach to Jigglypuff and fight it without problem. Also Smash Casino is good idea, but perhaps need to be tweaks a bit so it will balance. HOWEVER! I will try this game mode at home with some of my twist, if it is work successful, then I can let you know what else that should get more attention with even more crazier XD
Make sure you keep a note tab for yourself of Smash Casino fighter advantage/disadvantages. You stated Pit’s next three battles would have been on a “normal” stage but only used that rule once. With many variables in the video I’m sure it’s hard to keep track of everything. These videos are top notch quality and really entertaining and I’m excited to see more videos like this!
I guess you weren't the first person to do this, but regardless, seeing your previous video inspired me to try it out for myself, with a few rule adjustments. (The overtime kept me from playing TTYD, haha). I agree that accruing bigger sections of the board became more of a drawback than a benefit, so seeing these new rules implemented definitely spices it up. I might just try another one.
I love this type of content. I do my own CPU tournaments in private and love to see all the different ways folks use CPUs. I’m really surprised that none of my top contenders do well in these, Dedede is my number 1 right now, followed by Kazuya, Villager, Captain Falcon, and Mii Swordfighter.
I’m running something similar, but I have the defeated fighters still be able to fight and gain ground for the “owner” of their space, and if a previously defeated fighter is defeated, only that fighter joins the victor
0:29 the same thing happened just like in the first one where Lucas beat Greninja & took his 2 pieces of space but this time he beat him in the first fight of this one
Back in my day we had Smash Supremacy where you'd take 2 Amiibo's, max out their level, and put them in 1v1 matches with the winner moving on, and the loser getting kicked out the tournament. Funny enough though they also had a side series called Mii v Mii. Where the 2 main characters; TJ, and Dark TJ, would grab characters from the roster, put them into the 22v2 matches with them, and if one won, the other team would loser the character that they chose to do the 2v2 with. Now taking the idea of Imperialism in SSBU, I want to see Smash Bros Nationalism (For those who don't know, Nationalism is being loyal to your nation, religion, and racial identity, rather than "Diluting", or "Opposing" it via being with someone of a different race, or religion). Basically my idea is too put all game series and face each other in 4v4 match ups. If one nation has more than 5 characters they will only send 4 of those characters to fight. If a character has a skin that gives them a different identity that will count to a nation (This includes Steve, and the Koopa Kids, and maybe Hero). If a nation has 3 members, they'll be permitted to have a negotiated "alliance" with a nation with only 2, or 1 members. For those who only have 2-1 members, they can be permitted to Join a different nation with 3 members, or work with other nations that only have 2 or 1 members. The nation is destroyed if all members are defeated in battle, until then the battles will be decided by a character selector, and spinner like Smash Imperialism. This is just an idea though, and not something you gotta do, I just found it to be funny, and interesting.
I like the imperial rule where if you’re over 16 you’re safe. The casino is fine, but remove the insta loss tile. The % advantage is too much imo. Super fun watch though!
I saw a similar concept in a gameshow once, they too gave an advantage to the ones that kept winning, but they did it differently. You had to answer questions as fast as possible in a limited amount of time, and if you managed to win three times in a row, you gained an extra 5 secs So here's the idea: what if, for every three victories a character gets, he gets an extra stock that gets depleted before any of his normal stocks in a match ? Now of course this would have to replace the percentage advantage to work proper but yeah
Slight spoiler
Should I keep the Smash Casino in #3? I think its a cool idea but maybe it makes everything to rng based, what do you guys think?
I think the percentage advantage is already enough. Byleth did get kinda cheated.
Yeah, no smash casino.
It’s absolutely hilarious, keep it.
Byleth main fyi
Keep it, but change around what it offers. Instantly being removed from the game because you got unlucky one time is way too harsh imo.
Actually, what if you replaced the percentage thing with a modified version of the Smash Casino? Each time someone wins a battle, they get to roll on a wheel that contains mostly good prizes (Like the one where all opponents start at 10% going forwards), with a few bad ones thrown in to spice things up? That way, advantage is based on how many people you've conquered rather than whether or not you managed to take out one big enemy. You could even add in a mostly negative wheel for when someone loses a match but triggers the Empire Clause, just so that losing still has some weight.
Not sure exactly how well this idea would work, but I think it has some merit. Love the content, and I'm excited for the next video regardless of what rules you use.
Keep it
Maybe it should incorporate sillier gimmicks? Like allowing certain Spirits to be equipped or making certain items drop a lot? Especially when both fighters could be affected. I think those types of things are a little more fitting for a game of random chance than just altering starting percentages.
Every since Alpharad discontinued his level 9 cpu tournament, I never realized how big of an itch it was to see Smash Bros CPUS fighting eachother
So glad I found this
nice profile pic
True
@@henrygreenstone5656 thank you:)
SunflowerSmith does CPU tournaments on Wednesdays (not always, I believe season 2 starts in January)
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This actually helped thank u
Thx so much spoiler blocker!
You're a Saint!!
Spoiler blocker assistance
Legend
“Ryu has 1.5X the space as Ken”
Ryu: 2 spaces
Ken: 1 space
*the math ain’t mathing*
@@christeneguffey8096let’s see.
You have one 1. Now let’s get half of 1, .5, now what’s one 1? 1. What’s 1 + .5? 1.5. What’s 1 * 2? 2…
Anything times 1 is itself. *Keep that in mind going forward.*
@@christeneguffey8096did you fail elementary school math?
@@leiothrix6845 what happened? I don’t see no christeneguffey.
@@venomgaming7014 he tried to say 1x1.5 is 2 then deleted his comment lol
How dare you offend me Johnny wonder I want to send a gardening pot after you I am so angry for you saying 1x2 = 1.5
The joke character pulled up with double sun glasses on and went "I'm about to end this group's whole career"
The run back and you added gambling. FIRE
I was low key worried about being demonetized from that 😂
@JohnnyWonder12 How dare you for saying 1 x 2 = 1.5
Piranha plant is my main!
"Then he got spiked by a gardening pot"
As a Plant main, this makes me immensely happy
Plant gang
Plant gang
Plant gang
Plant gang
plant gang!
Byleth never getting elimanted via Fighter is insane.
That aged well
would have lost to the plant anyways
As a piranha plant main, this video sparked so much joy
Please make more of these videos
Man just dominated everyone
PLANT COMRAD HERE LETS FUCKING GO
We take them dubs bois
YESSSSSSIIIRRRRRR
Plant brother
Decided to try one of these after your first one, and it was BRUTAL, props to you for continuing this
That's the bad part about this idea, it takes forever 😂
But it's definitely worth it, thanks for watching!
@@JohnnyWonder12 No problem! I love all the new ideas in this one, but I think you should try changing some of the numbers just to see if anything works better than before. Looking forward to the next one!
@@welcome2hiwho won
@@Oscar-mj8fq somehow Isabelle won
@@welcome2hianimal crossing yeeee baby
The way Byleth lost was sheer amazingness.
Smash Casino said "we ain't having a repeat champion"
@@JohnnyWonder12 Smash Casino coming in clutch for Piranha Plant 🗣️🔥
Rng in fe sometime be like
@@Sissouchaos can't believe he got 1% critted
He died in his palace of dysentery which caused a power vacuum and complete collapse of his territories
Bro this series is way too underrated
Hopefully this video gains some traction 🤞
Bro, imagine if duck hunt wins the next one😂😂 @@JohnnyWonder12
Perhaps you could replace the percentage advantage in the next one with the conquered fighters? After owning a certain number of spaces, the reigning fighter gets to take a randomly selected member of their empire into battle with them as a teammate.
That even worse
have them have only 1 stock and level 3 cpu. That would make it more balanced. and besides, the pawns should have less power then the king anyway.
Byleth's chances got shattered instantly, the Smash Casino Wheel really did not want him to win again and he probably would of. The wheel probably wanted the other fighters to have a shot at being the champion. Perhaps the conditions could be toned down next time.
Just like in true Fire Emblem fashion, Byleth got screwed by RNG.
I didn't think you would continue this master piece of an idea, still incredible, plus I feel liek 2 things could be done:
A) Down for bottom row goes into top row, like Doodle Jump logic where it loops in on itself
B) Maybe make the casino less RNG based, make it so a 3 stock rewards you with a casino visit, this making it more skill based, even if they can get negative effects.
Interesting how the 2 victors so far are both with mixed reactions to their arrivals (Byleth wasn't welcomed and Plant was essentially a joke character)
Watch Min Min win next
This is singlehandedly one of my favorite series on TH-cam. My main is Cloud, so I was sad seeing him not form an entire empire like past time.
Wow great sequel. I love the new rule. Great video and really enjoyed
Can’t wait for part 3 these videos are fire 🔥
Sometime in the summer :)
Honestly in my opinion, you should just keep the empire clause and keep it at that because the smash casino mainly depends on luck and the percentage disadvantage/advantage is just unfair.
I swear Piranha Plant and Simon just recreated the Punic Wars.
I was hoping Lucas would come further... Curse you, Simon Belmont!
He honestly got really unlucky lol
Yes, I was also rooting for Lucas :(
Honestly I think he made all of us mad. XD
As a Greninja main, I was rooting for Lucas too, if you're gonna lose, at least lose to the winner
@@birdboy73 That's true
Robi- Corrin had me dying
Just from the empire clause and advantage percentage, this is waaaaay better than most imperialism videos. Amazing touch and better video.
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed
These videos are serious commitment. I applaud your editing ability but also your patience for being willing to sit through all of these matches. Amazing work!
Thank you for improving on your content. This is a much better video than last time, and it makes me excited for the future of this series
THIS SERIES IS AWSOME
Please make more of this videos
the first video was a funny randomizer thingy but with the added rules i was INVESTED this time. my world shattered when simon got killed three times by plant
keep it up dude youre genuinely entertaining :D
I appreciate the kind words :)
Glad you enjoyed!
Bro this is the next blowup series!!!!! Keep it going good job!!
I hope so! This is just the beginning 👀
Your "hey google" legit made my google turn on 😂
It was a pain to edit that part because my own Google kept activating 😂
This idea is so good and interesting to props to you for taking your time on this
The added rules were very enjoyable! I enjoy the smash casino! Can't wait to see how far you take this!
**Minor spoiler**
Announcer @9:12: Let him cook
Shulk: Naw, stick a sword in him. He done.
5:36 So, what happened here is that Rosa jumped and started to charge up the Luma Launch thing. Then Little Mac unleashed the KO Uppercut, but right before it hit, Rosa sent out Luma. Mac was protected by KO Uppercut, but once it ended, Luma hit him.
I would literally watch entire seasons of this if you make a unique twist like casino every episode, love the new rules too.
Thanks for the kind words! I already have several ideas for future episodes, I'm hoping to make this series a big part of my channel
Love that you are doing more of these!
Hoping for it to become a series :)
@@JohnnyWonder12 I would LOVE that!
I bet if Bowser Junior was Roy, Larry, or Lemmy he would have won
My face LITERALLY lit up when I saw this! Amazing vid, amazing series, amazing channel! Btw no spoilers but my Main made it to the final match!🎉🎉
Simon, piranha plant, bjr, or random?
@@birdboy73 Simon, I like spamming his up special
Part 2?!??
Awesome!
This is a really fun idea with great execution, hope to see more!
I love this series so much.
And it has nothing to do with the fact two of my mains out of three have won... (R.O.B you got this next one)
11:07 why is Steve’s land like that?
19:51 LETS F-ING GO!!!!!!!
imagine how hype it would’ve been if the random was Simon again
If you turn on the setting that groups echo fighters, the board would be perfectly rectangular. But this would mean echo fighters start in a weird limbo? Idk your decision, this is a very entertaining series so keep up the great work!!!
7:33 no way a man lost to a plant
OMG I NEED A PART 3
This gamemode is so much fun
At 17:10 we managed to get to a point where I wanted nobody to win
Shoutout Hero to anyone who wanted hero to win😭
My 2 mans face off in the end that's awesome. Cool video btw, I like the unique concept
Ok. This is such a cool video concept. It is so much fun. Keep it up!
Glad you like it!
My God, I've never seen this channel, but you have absolutely earned a like, sub, and comment. This is fantastic content
This is such a fun concept please make more
My main!!!let's goooooo
I like how it got shook up this time, I hate when these imperialism videos give no advantage to having a lead, you fixed it quite well
When 8:37 when that song started to play you got all my respect from all those years of me playing on the Wii u
Lokey these sbi vids are so good
Glad you like them!
The way you did this makes sense, but in both I still thought it would make more sense if winning only gave you the space that you were fighting with and that the fighters joined the team and did the fighting
This is my new favorite youtuber
Piranha Plant is more acceptable than any of the Fire Emblem cast.
even though i love the fe franchise, i agree
Nice man, u improved on an already really unique idea
Also that editing 🔥
“I’m sorry if your main gets eliminated”
DIDDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYY
Really good vid. You will definitely be successful it just needs to take some time. You are underrated!
I love these new twists I absolutely loved this.
Plant Gang never falls
Can’t wait for episode three!!!! Luigi must win!!!!
no way, Jose!
8:30 Wait… You Have Every Fighter But There Are Lots Of DLC Stages Missing? How Did That Happen?
Oh that's because I use my brother's account to record these, he's the one that has all the DLC, I only have Steve and Sora on my account, which is why those are the only dlc characters with stages therr
@@JohnnyWonder12 Ahh Okay, Gotcha
JohnnyWonder, I have genius idea… for next episode of this series, I have few suggestion…
Since you have struggle with arrow rng, why not make this easier by set up all character who are on border, have access to wraparound the board, so for example, of Mario are point to west, and nothing there. Just wraparound to reach to Jigglypuff and fight it without problem.
Also Smash Casino is good idea, but perhaps need to be tweaks a bit so it will balance.
HOWEVER! I will try this game mode at home with some of my twist, if it is work successful, then I can let you know what else that should get more attention with even more crazier XD
Please keep doing videos like this
I literally watch em while I take a shower. Best content to watch while getting that hygiene.
This ruleset was much better than the prevoious one, good job! 😊
Make sure you keep a note tab for yourself of Smash Casino fighter advantage/disadvantages. You stated Pit’s next three battles would have been on a “normal” stage but only used that rule once. With many variables in the video I’m sure it’s hard to keep track of everything. These videos are top notch quality and really entertaining and I’m excited to see more videos like this!
Yeah man there's so many matches that I honestly messed up a lot of stuff 😅
Oh well, just gotta make sure I don't screw it up in the third one
Nah, he said the next three were on *nermal* stages, which means the cat from Garfield picked them
On top of that Pit was done dirty. He had 16 tiles when he was eliminated by Simon, same as megaman when the empire clause saved him from the plant
SPOLIER WARNING
as one of the very few piranha plant mains out there, this does put a smile on my face
15:16 Bro, you actually activated my Google 😂
Hey google what sound does a gorilla make
I guess you weren't the first person to do this, but regardless, seeing your previous video inspired me to try it out for myself, with a few rule adjustments. (The overtime kept me from playing TTYD, haha). I agree that accruing bigger sections of the board became more of a drawback than a benefit, so seeing these new rules implemented definitely spices it up. I might just try another one.
Really nice video, I like the new rules!
Glad to hear!
9:28 Horizontally dying is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard
All these new rules must be a lot to keep track of for you, but it sure is a ton of fun!
5:45 bro sounded so disappointed with ganon
I love this type of content. I do my own CPU tournaments in private and love to see all the different ways folks use CPUs. I’m really surprised that none of my top contenders do well in these, Dedede is my number 1 right now, followed by Kazuya, Villager, Captain Falcon, and Mii Swordfighter.
I'm actually surprised Kazuya hasn't done more in these videos, to be fair though, both times he got taken out by eventual finalists
I’m running something similar, but I have the defeated fighters still be able to fight and gain ground for the “owner” of their space, and if a previously defeated fighter is defeated, only that fighter joins the victor
11:57 Kirby should’ve got his normal match fight
0:29 the same thing happened just like in the first one where Lucas beat Greninja & took his 2 pieces of space but this time he beat him in the first fight of this one
Im a byleth main so i was sad seeing him have a sudden heart attack midway through, but its probably for the best that we dont have a repeat champion
i agree
Should have done Byleth vs Piranha Plant at the end
Bro Shulk had only one stock in the match
Back in my day we had Smash Supremacy where you'd take 2 Amiibo's, max out their level, and put them in 1v1 matches with the winner moving on, and the loser getting kicked out the tournament. Funny enough though they also had a side series called Mii v Mii. Where the 2 main characters; TJ, and Dark TJ, would grab characters from the roster, put them into the 22v2 matches with them, and if one won, the other team would loser the character that they chose to do the 2v2 with. Now taking the idea of Imperialism in SSBU, I want to see Smash Bros Nationalism (For those who don't know, Nationalism is being loyal to your nation, religion, and racial identity, rather than "Diluting", or "Opposing" it via being with someone of a different race, or religion). Basically my idea is too put all game series and face each other in 4v4 match ups. If one nation has more than 5 characters they will only send 4 of those characters to fight. If a character has a skin that gives them a different identity that will count to a nation (This includes Steve, and the Koopa Kids, and maybe Hero). If a nation has 3 members, they'll be permitted to have a negotiated "alliance" with a nation with only 2, or 1 members. For those who only have 2-1 members, they can be permitted to Join a different nation with 3 members, or work with other nations that only have 2 or 1 members. The nation is destroyed if all members are defeated in battle, until then the battles will be decided by a character selector, and spinner like Smash Imperialism. This is just an idea though, and not something you gotta do, I just found it to be funny, and interesting.
I love how Byleth just suddenly died it makes me think of an empire just imploding from within
I hope Little Mac will have a consistent underdog story just like Punchout
1:07 because they have skill from their game
Yoooo love this stuff
Justice for pikachu. The cpu does not comprehend their power.
At a HUGE plant fan, this does put a smile on my face!!!
When you said "hey Alexa turn on mega man 2 melody" it turned on my Alexa too so it played the mega man 2 melody lol
I like the imperial rule where if you’re over 16 you’re safe. The casino is fine, but remove the insta loss tile.
The % advantage is too much imo.
Super fun watch though!
I like the extra life if they're big enough, but maybe turn down the disadvantage. Otherwise a great video, i hope we get more!
I saw a similar concept in a gameshow once, they too gave an advantage to the ones that kept winning, but they did it differently. You had to answer questions as fast as possible in a limited amount of time, and if you managed to win three times in a row, you gained an extra 5 secs
So here's the idea: what if, for every three victories a character gets, he gets an extra stock that gets depleted before any of his normal stocks in a match ?
Now of course this would have to replace the percentage advantage to work proper but yeah
this made me realise how bad all my mains are they all died right away lol
The new percentage rules are a great addition, as well as the empire clause
17:03 You forgot to give Pit his second chance; he had 16 spaces, but you eliminated him instead of taking half of the spaces
11:09 I’m rooting for Steve too😁
This was a roller coaster for me as a plant main and I loved watching this. This was so much fun