FATE OF THE ASURYANI! TIME FOR CEGORACH TO ACT?
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- Hi all Rho here! With the revelation of the new Chaos v Aeldari boxset, i thought it'd be a good time to discuss just what the future could hold for the Asuryani...
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tinfoil hat on, the emperor burning the garden of nurgle allows for an opportunity for isha to be rescued from nurgle, allowing for a narrative of hope for rebirth under isha,ynnead and cegorach
So I actually started a custom craftworld I call "ishas chosen". They believe that the way to salvation is to free Isha from nurgle. The other craft worlds don't talk about them because they see them as fools bc of the high cost of Eldar blood that is being shed to do so. They are primarily a wraith army
I mean, hoping to come out alive and well by binding your civilization to the god of death is just unwise. No matter how you define that death, the core principle is still there. Depending on a trickster might not be the best bet, however, a triune effort might balance their strengths and weaknesses.
@@KaiserAfini This is a hell of an idea and I love it. The idea of "death and rebirth" is tied a little too closely to nurgle for my liking. But a trio working in balance? It also ties into the fractured nature of the Eldar. and really, after all this time Isha has to have a play in mind and as much as the emperor and the imperium has good reason to distrust aliens they need to work together, and big E would see that.
@@00yiggdrasill00 the emperor was never really against xenos, he was always humanity first but if a xenos is reasonable they can get along
@@ekulerudamuru that's..not what I've gathered. He was against them...he just had the wisdom to know when and where to fight them rather then current day "just kill them all NOW"
If "Cadia Stands" has taught me anything, it is destroying a faction's homeworld does nothing to disuade its table top players from playing that faction.
Honestly, yet another Craftworld being lost or destroyed would be about the least original thing they could do at this point. My feeling is, they really need to do something else this time.
Good to hear I'm not the only one who remembers that Cegorach has a plan though :)
GW has a chance to do Ynnari right this time.
hope only leads to damnation
Eldar!
GW has never dropped the ball on a big opportunity in the past have they?
I want the goddess to escape the garden. It was torched, wasn't it? Seems like a good time for an escape.
My thought too.
She isn't in the garden but in the manor .
Send in...the clowns
To say that the Eldar are overdue for some new models is the understatement of the decade. They have models still in the range that go back to 2nd edition. Heck if you count reused pieces like the swooping hawk wings then they have models from Rogue Trader that are still being produced.
What do you mean the Swooping Hawk wings from Rogue Trader? The wings from 2nd ed Swooping Hawks are too small compared to the new ones.
@@cyclone8974 My apologies, I should have been more precise in my description. The RT swooping hawk exarch wings were reused for the current resin, previously metal, standard swooping hawks. Just like they reused Baharroth's wings when they re-sculpted the exarch.
Yes it’s almost criminal the range hasn’t been refreshed for almost 30 years.
However, I remember when they made “new” Striking Scorpions & couldn’t believe how blocky and inferior they were to the old “lead” models.
I known injection molded plastic tech. has improved considerably since so I don’t why it’s been kicked down he road.
In addition use of CAD/CAM to design models, instead of hand sculpting should massively speed the refreshment of whole armies…
Yeah I'm getting sick of the Aeldari taking the "L" whenever they show up they always die in droves. Even when the Aeldari "win" it's super bittersweet with a sea of Aeldari corpses being the result of the victory...which is kinda rough for a species trying to survive. *Spoilers* Even the Hammer and Bolter episode that features the Asuryani Warlock, involves a recently obliterated minor craft world...but don't worry the character recovers 1 unbroken soul stone amidst millions of dead! Yay victory! Let's go fist bump the Avatars of Khaine that get worfed all the time to show how awesome something else is. I just want a win, a clear cut win. It could be the discovery of a once thought lost Craftworld with maybe a unique aspect shrine on it. Or maybe the Asuryani realize that technologically they have been stagnant for 10000 years like the humans. Maybe instead of just "surviving" they start to March forward and are determined to live, a result of that could be new technologies with the determination to use it. Or it could be something simple as winning a consequential battle with an Aeldari character not getting the snot beaten out of them. Maybe a Fareer actually shows why the Aeldari are the most psychic race in the galaxy and wins some epic duel of wizards. Or an Autarch or someone winning in one of those epic fights that we still talk about. Like when a Chapter Master or a Chief Librarian throws down with a powerful enemy and comes out on top. My dormerism aside I'm looking forward to the new models and I hope that will create a will in GW to make more stories for the Aeldari.
Every eldar has his day, the ynarri most Def could make great changes
The groundwork for an official alliance with specific factions of the Eldar and the Imperium High-command is definitely in place. Guilleman introduced his eldar farseer adviser to the high lords in "Avenging Son". Guilleman has a solid working relationship with both Eldread and Yrean, and it makes solid sense for both factions.
While I can't see them outright allying because there is just so much bad blood between them, a agreement if "you deal with this and I deal with that and no stabbing in the back" is something we see often enough and us needed enough to be something I see becoming formal.
Maybe a convention between Craftworlders to decide what to do as a "United" force to only have Chaos breach in, they flee with survivors and work with ynerraria or Imperium to reclaim or blow up the infested Craftworld to save the infinity circuit?
Thank you for Covering something other than Space marine stuff.. I mean mutated humans are okay but some of us play other factions. I play Necrons , Tau and Aldar so this is nice
Even as a hard imperium fan and marines in particular it's great seeing this. People often forget that a fight is only interesting when both sides can compete. Eldar are long overdue for some real love.
@@00yiggdrasill00 i think the same, better enemies make great storys.
I use these guys in my story for the 11th. To me, it is fun to imagine a primarch allied with a craft world. A dying race and dying faction combined to fight for survival
For me, the only direction beyond extinction for the Craftworlds would be leaning into Khaine: a revivalist movement leading to innovations in wargear, upgrades for the avatar and a new, aggressive posture for the craftworlds in the narrative.
If they rescue Isha, perhaps she can heal the shards of Khaine into a larger whole
He desperately needs an upgrade. Sacrificing a perfectly good eldar warrior to bring forth a so called avatar that gets piledrived into fine dust by the named character of the day is just embarrassing.
Thanks for all the videos you've created over the past year and best of luck in 2022, onwards and upwards, brother!
I've always imagined that the "Tree of Life" that Russ has been searching for is actually Isha, and that if he managed to rescue her it would come with a great boon to both humans and Eldar.
As for the laughing god, I could imagine Cegorach's "final jest" being to sacrifice himself to give all of his power to Ynead. Perhaps not much in the grand scale of things, but enough to tip the balance. Put Isha into that equation somewhere as well, and Slaanesh might really have something to worry about.
The return of the final crone sword to bring khaine back to full power. Plus isha causing his resurrection and ynnead being fully risen in his power.
Or possibly the harlequins stealing darl eldar artefacts from before the fall to bring back their fallen and new/old weapons coming forth
4:11 gave me goosebumps! What an incredible story that could be.
Some of the eldar should mostly think about saving a eldar god that nurgle have prisoner in his domain.
I mean if they could get all the Phoenix lords and all the avatars all on board fhey might be able to get to her but retrieving khaine might be easier
@@christophercombs7561 yeah if not then maybe Morty May free her in return she cures him from nurgle plagues on him.
@@vontheunknown7982 i mean it would fit the laughing god has been absent for millenia hes been searhing for and rebuilding khaine and then the 2 of them go get Isha its a nice arc of a story
@@christophercombs7561 that story line would be a fantastic read.
@@dibshadibs right
Thank you for the great video Wolf Lord Rho. My very first 40k army was my old 2nd/3rd edition Ulthwe Eldar Army. I loved this army and it was fun to play in tournaments back then.
I have always loved the Laughing God and his Harlequins. Sadly i stopped playing 40k when i left for the Army in 2003. I didnt stsrt playing again until 2012.
I was hoping that when the Emperor and Guilleman burned into Nurgles Realm that Isha would have been revealed or set loose.
Finally i really want the Ynari to find the last crone sword and awaken Ynneed. I think that the Lion will be the one to find the blade. I dont think the god of death will slay she who thirsts but definitely free the eldar people and make Slaanesh change her tactics.
Happy new year Rho!
It would be very nice. I still have a lot of Aeldari Forge World kits to build and some background for my own Craftworld to complete.
Plot twist: The Emperor planned to have the Eldar join the Imperium, hence the webway project.
would need some serious work to patch that breach tho
@@thecommentguy9380 I'm sure there's a good architect in either the Aeldari or Imperium that can fix it. Lol.
@@madmerlinsart if the imperium had one, they be dead as fuck
@@thecommentguy9380 XD true
I think a series of temporary alliances with the imperium are likely. I would expect those alliances to lead the Eldar to awakening those avatars, at which point Guilliman will think himself betrayed, sparking either a renewed conflict, or a cold understanding that each race (the Eldar and Imperium) must do battle with Chaos/Orks/Tyranids/Necrons etc on their own terms for now, whilst quietly building up their forces for an inevitable battle with each other. I think the 2 gods getting avatars and corresponding models is a GREAT Idea, and Ynnead (however you spell that) finding a way to "save" the Eldar is some way could help grease the wheel for said inevitable conflict.
I dunno. I just wanna hear more about Decimus and the Night Lords fighting Ulthwe during the battle of Cadia.
I would say a sacrifice of 1-2 craftworlds in exchange to saving Isha would be the great. Some progress, but at great cost.
What if Khaine was revived by the Drukhari sacrificing the blood of an entire Craft World [or rival Drukhari Crone World] to an Avatar of Khaine? Khaine is a martial god, and he would be willing to fight Slaanesh if he were powerful enough. Khorne, the chaos mirror of Khaine hates Slaanesh. I assume Khorne would protect Khaine, allowing the latter to grow in power from the Eldar engaging and inflicting bloodshed and violence.
Khorne destroyed khaine in the first place
@@Dreadbringer to stop slaanesh from consuming him.
If you think about all the Imperial Sub-Factions, it's not a stretch to look at the Aeldari ending up back under a single banner with 3 sub-factions. Just a thought.
US older Epic players remember the Eldar had some pretty big battles against Horus and often fighting along side the loyalist. Girly man would remember this.
This video got me thinking, and what I would love to see is the Black Library emerge as a craftworld in the galaxy. It could potentially provide the huge increase to their overall power in the galaxy, similar to the way Rho was describing the Imperium, Necrons, etc. and give the Aeldari the narrative shift they need in upcoming books.
Khan is on the BL
Just a quick thought off the top of my head now
I'd love to see them rise again.
On the other hand, I think it could be a bittersweet ending. Should they fall, ynnead birthed and the Eldar pretty much reduced to a race of wraith constructs - paralleling the Necrons.
Yay, happy day.
I think it would be nice to see that cegorach retrived the last cronesword from slaanesh as to finalize the ynnari's quest. Dont know if its in his power but would be nice to hear some more on the ynnari-front of the lore, as to my understanding, the books did the ynnari dirty and would like to hear some more from the eldar race lore-wise
9:39 Ultramarines would listen to orders if Guilliman commanded it for sure but only the White Scars are 'free' enough thinkers to truly work with the Aeldari as 'equals'. The White Scars story in "Overfiend" by David Annandale shows that very well.
Its the great thing about Stormseers, unlike any of the other (loyalist) Space Marine chapters (even Blood Angels in spite of Sanguinius' gift), Jaghatai completely ignored the Nikaea verdict. This has had its effect on the White Scars chapter as a whole resulting in definitely the most open minded (even philosophical) among the 41k Space Marine chapters.
Savage Scars by Andy Hoare also shows this again through how a 'regular' White Scars Sergeant is close friends with a Navigator and what he thinks of the Tau (which would border on heresy for most modern Astartes chapters).
Would Ynead only accept the souls of the Eldar? I really feel there needs to be a daemon sacrifice to the new god to bolster the strength. Also, it'd be interesting if they made it clearer whether this was a psychic construct/robot, like Khaine was originally, or whether this is actually a god, or a manifestation of the Eldar psyche.
There's also the Harlequins interaction with Fabius Bile and the Necrons to consider.
Perhaps it’s time for Prophet Decimus and his Night Lords to devastate Ulthwe
Ceo has already been doing plenty and has spiced up the current story to where it is now.
How about this one Ro? An empirium alliance with the eldar orchestrated and helped by an avatar of Cegorach and the Kahn comming out of the webway together???
B A Z I N G A
I would like to see a Light Kabal.
I want a harlequin wraithlord and a plastic super heavy for eldar
An updated model for the Avatar of Khaine is rumoured and it’s new rules. Supposedly stronger than before and buffing many of the Aspect Warriors. I’m here hoping for Asurmen to get updated rules and model. Since he’s the first of the Phoenix lords and as strong as Primarchs.
Woah, hold up now. The eldar jest got 3 new kits! They need to get put on the back burner for a couple years now. The space marines need some love, perhapse a full range update? Those repulsar kits are getting a bit old.
Deffinetly need a new primaris lieutenant.
You mean the Eldar? :D
You need to add in your reflection the new anime exodite !
They wouldn't have to destroy a craftworld, just sufficiently threaten it. For example, what if Ulthwe suddenly found itself horribly exposed to a Tyranid fleet that has been displaced by warp activity deep into Imperial territory and threatens both the destruction of Ulthwe and several systems critical to the functioning of the Imperium. That would up the stakes enough for both factions to cooperate, but provide an obvious "out" for GW to take later and avoid veering into "end times" territory
Maybe they get a large chunk of dark Eldar who follow yenead returning to the fold. During the weekday they are prim and proper and go all out kinky on the weekends
it would be cool if one of the craftworlds was caught inside the cicatrix maledictum and are caught in a perpetual war, maybe the other craftworlds could come to their aid, or even better maybe roboute could help and establish an alliance, or an ideal way to introduce another primarch, but would also allow the a resurgence of the eldar gods
Yeee no the other craftworlds wouldbt help, they didnt help altansar, maguan ra went and got it himself and the other craftworlds are wary of them
Desperately hoping this will translate to more Harlequins, or at least more named characters in the lore.
It's pronounced "che-GOR-akh", the final syllable being like a Spanish jota
I will always say this: retconning/ dropping the croneswords was a huge mistake. A war for the last one would be such a good event that could last forever and include so many factions. The cronesword plotline had such potential
Why what did they do with that? I mean how they retcon it
It still can happen, a trilogy of novela about the last cronesword and a craftworld invading slaneesh palace would be awesome
I'd love if they did have an alliance. The imperium wasn't so heavily xenophobic oringally. Would love to see them ally with the eldar and maybe stand more of a chance of a happy society. Imagine in the imperium if they had the use of the webway and warp(can't remeber what they use to build stuff)
Last Alliance of Elves and Men? I'd like to see it, though I think it's unlikely, however logical - they have the same enemies, after all :)
neckbeards will be like "but my grimdarkness"
Generally speaking the Eldar and Imperium do have a more friendly relationship than other factions. They are more than willing to kill each other, but more often than not it seems they work toward a similar goal. Once that is over and done with they will probably do their best to annihilate eachother.
its pronounced Eesha not Aysha, i think :D.
Would love some more good Eldar books. They sadly don't get written well most of the time. Imperium and Chaos gets lots of great books. The Necrons now are getting love and the books are great. Tyranids get stories through other factions as they have no feelings. Tau don't have many good books minus the Farsight and Shadowsun ones. Eldar are unique that even in their own books they don't get written well most of the time.
there are avatars of cheogorath, the harlequins and solitairs
I can see the Ultramarines and Eldar Alliance a possibility in the realm of ultramar
I mean if there are still Cadians after Cadia fell, I don't see why not.
Or- a craftworld tries to recolonise one of the crone worlds? That would move the story forward, and comes with its own risks.
bro after reading the fabius bile books if i never hear anything about the harlequins again itll be too soon.
I fell like them giving us stuff that we've been asking for years is there way to make us forget how they genocided all the animators on TH-cam.
Why not both? A major craftworld is about to perish which forces the laughing gods hand and unleash his avatar. This bides time for a nearby craftworld to save a good portion of the other before its destroyed
Frankly there is nothing to stop the Eldar from packing up their thing and piloting their Craftworlds to another galaxy entirely.
The Emperor needs to speak through Guilliman for the Eldar and Imperium alliance to be real
The 8th Legion prophet is the doom of the Eldar
AVE DOMINUS NOX!
Lets be honest, in the grimdark future there is only teeth and screaming in the end.
That's the "light in the darkness." Teeth. Lot's and lot's of teeth.
But up until then? Sure, I just bought twenty Guardians and ten Fire Dragons yesterday(used), so I'm all in.
You failed to mention that Vect is currently possessed by Cegorach or did you not know this?
That's Lady Malys who's possessed by Cegorach
I want the Avatar of Khaine to win a major battle.
The Bequin books ... Ravenor has an alliance with them and they bring 5 craft world's to take out one planet 🤣
Ynnead is cegorach: the ultimate rickroll
Cadia was destroyed and players are still able to build Cadian regiment guard armies. GW even gave them new rules for making conscripts more desirable
#Majourkill dreams
Laughing god is actually very serious... player in game.
Its all balance the emperor may rebalance the with the eldar emergence
Wouldn’t it be great if Russ returned rescuing aisha from burgle bringing her back to heal the emporer.…
Big E burning the garden increased the chance of that
What the Eldar need most is character development away from "Those guys who repeatedly make everything worse for the galaxy out of sheer pretentiousness and ego and prevent anything from getting better also out of sheer ego."
I dont think any of that will happen. I think GW kind of forgot about that Eldar plotline they had going.
Perhaps sales where insufficient to warrant further development of the Lore, who knows.
I expect the eldar to fade into the Background more.
Which is realistically speaking, is what would happen do a dying species in that situation..
its just not interesting.
That we just got new Eldar models means very little, in my mind. After all remember when we got Plastic Banshees, and everyone believed that meant a refresh for the entire Aspect Warrior Range, and... well... perhaps we get another few Models, if we are good Autarchs and Farseers, we get a few more models Next Year.
One time got in fight with a toaster
Not gonna lie, I really hate the people who desire the Alliance between Aeldari and Humanity to fall apart.
At least those who just think it goes against the 'grimdark' idea. As if it's not still them fighting on the backfoot against all odds because the writing doesn't make them do something idiotic.
I hope you don't mind me playing this video at 1.5x the speed, because of you speaking extremely slowly ^^,
I was so confused listening to this because of all the pronounciations and GW copyright faction terms.
"Many players loosing their favorite faction" im sure all three Eldar players will be so sad to loose craft world fancy pants
There's four of us actually and we resent that remark. Craftworld Fancypants survived the fall and has been battling She who Thirsts since the beginning; all who oppose the forces of Chaos should respect her and mourn her loss :(
Cawl will just clone a few Craftworlds. No, not craftworlders. The entire Craftworld.
Seh-gore-ack. I love you but…
The fall of a major craft world is completely viable with 0 impact to the tabletop.
Cadia fell centuries ago in lore. There are 0 native Cadians left alive. You can still play as Cadians, and use their characters
GW fucked up big time when then destroyed Warhammer Fantasy world with the Elves, Druchi, Malus Dark Blade, Draws, Humans etc.
I hate the new world.
The Eldar need a win. I like the Imperium as much as the average Warhammer fan but the Eldar have basically been repeatedly bashed over and over by GW for YEARS. It's as if they are too afraid to give any real attention to anyone who isn't wearing power armour in case they lose 0.00000001% of their sales money.
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They don't seem to realise that allowing the Eldar to have interesting characters, good models, their own stories where they get to shine and have a real, solid impact on the setting that allows them to progress with everyone else is more likely to draw in new players/consumers and reinvigorate older ones far more than the constant Imperium and Chaos wankfest that GW has been stuck in for years. Hell, most of the true Eldar fans I personally know would spend 3 times the average price of a Black Library novel about Space Marines, just to get a single running series about the Eldar that allows them to live up to the reputation they SHOULD have in the lore. And those same customers would buy every single book in that series (probably via pre-order) and then go out and buy the newest box set of Eldar minis just for the joy of having and painting them.
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Just stop using the Eldar as support for other characters and factions to either beat up on, outperform or use as a means to further the plot. Basically give the Eldar the attention they deserve, throw Eldari fans a bone and watch the money roll in.
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The Ynnari are a perfect example of this being done poorly. They exploded into the scene with new lore and new models to boot, only to be used as glorified supporting characters in their own story - realistically only existing to wake up Guilliman and start the makings of the own story ala the Crone Swords then have their entire faction be completely destroyed by the SHARD of a single Greater Daemon (again, in their own story) and the entire quest basically come to a grinding halt when they realise the final Crone Sword is in Slaanesh's palace. They've basically done nothing since because GW was all like:
"SEE, ELDAR STUFF DOESN'T SELL LIKE SPACE MARINES!!"
Of course it didn't sell well when all the hype leading up to the story was utterly demolished by whatever author was responsible taking a massive steaming dump on the entire faction in their own story and making the lot of them seem weak, useless and incapable of achievinf anythinf on their own and easily swatted aside by their enemies. FFS GW 🤦♂️
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With all of that said, kicking the Eldar even further is the LAST thing that should be happening. Ceograch I think, does need to get more involved in the galactic events over all however, it needs to be in the way of doing something for the Eldar themselves, not just some supporting action for another faction *COUGH* *IMPERIUM* *COUGH*. I think that rebuilding and reinforcing the damaged Craftworlds like Biel Tan and Ilyanden by having other Craft Worlds actually pitching in to help would go a long way as well. I think the Ynnari should continue with the Crone Swords Quest, adding more followers to their cause as they go to slowly strengthen Ynnead and then eventually, when they have all but the last Crone Sword, gather an appropriate team to go and heist the final Sword from Slaanesh's Palace (likely with some help from the Laughing God as such a thing would make an Epic Prank - particularly against Slaanesh). I think the shards of Khaine need to be brought together as the Craftworlds slowly start coming together again so Khaine can eventually be reformed. I think Isha needs to be rescued however, I could see a link with Russ, his search for the Tree of Life the burning of Nurgle's Garden being a thing and I'd actually be ok with her getting out in some way connected to this. These are all near to end-game goal and how these things come about is somethinf id be open to hear ideas for but these are all things that I think really do NEED to happen at some point. The Eldar have spent far too long in the shadow of everyone else in the galaxy and whole they might never again reach the lofty heights of their past, they certainly don't deserve all the crap they have been getting for so long and are continuing to get even now.
No more dead end shit novels please.
I get their GW thing is moving slower then a glacier hit with a slow beam but Geez
Sorry have to give a thump down for GW IP absurd name for the ELDAR
English?
@@imoldgregg8571 what’s that?
@@TheSigmaGrindSet okok I think I got a translation. Your thump? (Thumbs) down only hurts the creator of this vid who is in no way affiliated with GW.
@@imoldgregg8571 Yes but it’s the creators choice wether to blindly follow the change of naming conventions made by G.W. for I.P. reasons only.
Since 2nd Ed. until recently the faction has always been called the “Eldar”, it’s a massive disservice to the decades long fans.
However, I’m sure you’ll have no problem when the term “Space Marine” is finally replaced entirely for “Primaris Marine”…