Yeah. The, "I am disappointed in you." My dad said it once to me. I only said that once to my third of seven. The sixth it's about once a month. I think they would rather have me hit them.
What did you expect the emperor to get off his thrown and let amount infinite demons into the Imperial Palace and so many people are praying for him that's in the work he's breaking into a thousand pieces hilariously the only thing keeping the Imperium together is faith in the emperor
"The Chaos Gods do not fear the Emperor because of his champions, promises of science and technology or even his ability to wield the powers of a God. They fear that The Golden Throne is no longer keeping his decerped body intact - but rather constraining his ever growing abilities. They fear that one way or another - should the Emperor ever rise from his internment, he will do so not as a man, not as a God, but as a kind of power that reality has never seen."
The irony: Chaos created a hell of a mess but, conversely, created the environment in which Big E can manifest through others and remind them why he was dubbed Anathema.
But if Horus had won humanity would have gone extinct leading to the Chaos Gods starving and becoming docile. The Great Game must go on. Player 5 has joined.
@@minnumseerrund this reminds me of what Big E said regarding Alpharius after Isstvan V. Also there is another irony here: Big E became a god, ultimately proving Lorgar right. Dor this reason I would love Big E/Lorgar reunion where Monarchia stood
@@minnumseerrund That future wasn't definitive. Eldrad already showed Gramatikus that the Kabal's theory was a flawed one and not guaranteed to happen.
I feel lucky to have gotten into the WH40k lore within the past few years, it seems like I came into the story at the right time to see the plotlines pushed forward.
Am I hearing right, Mortarion felt fear when the Emperor was close, and then a tinge of love and joy at the sight of Him and fear, terror and regret at the thought of returning to Nurgle?
No, Morty felt no love or joy at seeing Big E, and he felt fear because he was going back in failure to Nurgles displeasure. Morty rebelled against a direct order from Nurgle to abandon Ultramar, and now he compounds disobedience with failure.
@Adrian Kowalski that doesn't sound right, the primachs are the smartest people except for the big E, it doesn't make sence they wouldn't understand the current state of the emperor, surely they would be able to feel it
"Perhaps one day you might be saved." That lends credence to the idea that the Emperor did speak to Curze before he died and that it wasn't Curze hallucinating.
@@Fatties09 curze? Is he really dead? Also I don't think he do anything but avoid being redeemed because he hates himself and unless he can inflict a satisfactory punishment upon his father he will never accept redemption
@@nofuxgivens2797 hard to say. The emperor brought a shade of ferrus' soul back for a time. I'd say curze is dead in rhe conventional sense but in other respects he's probably alive, just dormant.
@@Fatties09 If I'm remembering right, doesn't his crown have an eldar soul stone imbedded in it? The crown he wore when he let the assassin chop his head off in the book called Soul hunter. I'd say Cruze has a solid chance of coming back
Man, slowly but surely, TTS really is starting to become canon. That funny scene of Big E poking Tzeentch until he gave up Magnus's soul comes to mind.
I don't blame GW for trying to copy it, some of the fancanons introduced would be pretty compelling if it happened in the actual lore, like Magnus being redeemed or even the Emperor's dismantling of the Inquisition by throwing them all into the warp, with a few changes of course to not make it COMPLETELY ridiculous, which is often the case with TTS at times.
Technically speaking, of the 4 Chaos Princes, Mortarian IS the easiest to redeem because even HE hates how he has fallen so far into the physic corruption that he and his sons have become desperate to use.
He sees his failures in all of his traitor sons. All of his mistakes, everything he could have done to save them. He even says that Mortarion is as much a victim in this as he is a monster. The final push he needed to destroy Horus wasn't to save himself, but in seeing the complete anguish Horus was in, literally begging to be ended. Despite everything he was made to be, everything he has to be, the Emperor is still a Father.
@@pyerack It is most definitely NOT E’s fault that Angron is the way he is. He’s had multiple chances to remove the nails/turn back, he just hasn’t taken them.
@@xzenitramx666 Imagine slapping galaxy cheeks so hard that you become bored and gone to godhood just to do it again to another god. I imagine Emperor doing just that, oh wait-
Hold up, with what he was beginning to create. Those gods may have felt that was their only chance. No one, except maybe tyranids, want beef with Big E
Technically Corvis did come back. He hasn’t returned to the imperium but in a very recent book he was shown to be active alive and well within the warp, hunting traitors.
No more Primarch's will come back for a very, very long time. GW ended up making 8th edition the push that they needed business wise, so they will stall it all out for as long as possible.
I've never thought about it that way before. Pretty damn good point. Other than the Tau God of The GreaterGood, I think He's the only god that can even exist in both plains of reality.
He could only be in the material realm because of the mass amount of worship. Khorne demons can only be in the material realm for a long time if there is slaughter and shrines built to khorne, so maybe the emperor can only be walking around because of the ecclesiarchy and imperial creed.
@@DanielScutt as they recruit more psychically active races to the greater good creed they are creating a god of the greater good and since time doesnt exist in the warp he will have always existed once he is born just like slaanesh.
Now THIS was some sick story progression!!! I'll literally shed man tears if theres a mortarian redemption story. That small glimmer of hope he had before being pulled away, that got me. So many of the primarchs really are victim's. :< big daddy needs to save them! 😭
On one hand: Holy shit, new lore! The storyline advances On the other hand: Oh no, the storyline advances... we've seen where that goes. End times, anyone? Also, as long as you're moving forward, for the love of God don't make Guilliman be the end-all, give us another loyal Primarch. Dorn is really unlikely, but boy would I love it...
the Emperor has turned humanities greatest flaw, into its greatest weapon. Faith. He understood that its something we always turn to as a species in dire times. so it was his fail-safe after the HH when his other plans to protect humanity were undone.
I wonder if Russ has been traversing the warp all this time with a fragment of Big Lord Golden Chungus looking for the tree of life. Trying to find a way to bring his shattered consciousness together once again to heal his body so he can rise up to give Chaos a right good thrashing
I always wondered this.... The Eldar Goddess who is a prisoner of Nurgle, Isn't she the Goddess of Life, Health, and Fertility? I wonder if she is "The Seeds of the Tree of life."
this really could point to a escape of Isha from nurgle realm, the cauldron has been destroyed, the garden is cleansed, never has there been a better chance
For some reason, with the way you described the part of Mortarion sensing the massive shadow of the emperor moving through the warp, made me think of being down in the ocean, and the shadow of a shark or a whale moving just out of sight in the depths. Like you see the silhouette, feel the water pressure moving and changing as it subtly(or not so subtly) pushes against you even though you can't see the source. Nothing you can do, but wait for it to approach, attack, or move away. Dread is the primary emotion that comes to mind, fear sure, but nothing crawls into your heart like an unseen foe, that you know outclasses you, especially when you're on THEIR turf.
But he HAS returned already. His presence in the Warp is already extremely active. He doesn't need to get off the golden throne to be a major player in galactic affairs.
In all honesty, I don't really get the whole "warp tear in the webway" needing babysitting. We have examples of powerful psykers but obviously nowhere near the level of the emperor closing warp rifts, so why couldn't the emperor close it in the first place? He even had malcador to help him back then, could have possibly asked magnus to help too before magnus turned traitor considering it was his fault to begin with. And if we assume that its just so massive it can't be easily repaired, then surely now that the emperor is powerful enough to confront and curbstomb a chaos god he could do so.
Seal off the Palace and blast the power through the Webway, incinerating all the wacky daemons and unlucky dark eldar too slow to run. It becomes the Emperor’s realm in the Warp, allowing a faster/safer transport option. But forces the evil inside out in other places causing many shenanigans. Maybe Terra itself is splintered but held together by the Emperor’s might. Huge chunks of floating continents orbiting a as psychic star. Chunks of Terra can be mined, metal or crystals, infused with holy power to make new weapons to sell at exorbitant prices
I am still working my way through the Horus Heresey series, however I am getting chills from this. I am putting the Dark Imperium on my read next list! Keep up the fantastic work Rho!
I'm getting the feeling that we might see ascended primarchs now. We the Emperor's soul inside them. Something to revivify the loyalist legions. This was damn cool. I'm excited to see where this story takes us.
So what does the whole last son mean? We know the Lion is still around, just taking a nap and Corax is hunting down Lorgar. The other loyalists are dead or lost, but that leaves three loyal sons that could lead the Imperium.
I imagine its more a thing that loyal sons wouldn't leave the imperium to fend for itself meaning probably the lion as the only other loyal son but he isn't around I guess
Its because Roboute is the only loyalist primarch who is both still alive, active and actually working to defend and protect the Imperium. Corax has turned into an individual obsessed with vengeance and has abandoned the Imperium as was the same with Vulcan up to the war of the beast. We don't know the status of the Khan or Russ but both of them kinda retreated back to their worlds and eventually just disappeared. Dorn actually tried to hold the Imperium together however we unfortunately don't know his status as well so he could be alive or dead but I feel if Dorn was alive he would have revealed himself by now as it's not in Dorns nature to hide while the Imperium burns.
this is said from the perspective of Roboute, for what he can see, all the other primarchs are either evil, dead, mia, or banished from existence. He said that because he thinks he is alone.
I think..that the wolf fella will find a way too bring back the emporah!! and it requires the sacrifice of a Primach too do it. The way that a fallen primach might redeem himself is too sacrafice himself willingly...and boom the emporah is back.
Mortarion won’t be redeemed in the sense he will be walking around shouting for the emperor instead there will be a scene where he has a choice follow nurgle and remain a slave or help stop chaos and die free. Mortarions redemption will come with his death
I wonder if this had any impact upon Isha . Perhaps Nurgle was weaker from this and Isha slipped from the cage which held her while she had the chance.
I want to , if 40K ever reaches an end where the chaos gods are killed, I want to see the emperor himself strike like, nurgle or slaanesh down with a single blow, simultaneously smiting every single demon they have spawned, not fully killing them, but wrecking ALL of their shit. Its most likely never going to happen, but I can dream
@@exponenttie9707 it is not from Slaanesh that Eldar will need to steal from, in the end it will be the almighty Blood Ravens who acquire the last Crone Sword :p
@@pyerack Comparing C'tan to the chaos gods is a bit ridiculous considering they are polar opposites. C'tan are entirely physical god like beings, the chaos gods are completely of the warp. This is why the C'Tan and old ones were nemeses. It makes sense that the C'Tan could be shattered not so sure about the chaos gods. Then again, we have Khaine who was apparently shattered and he was a warp god so I dunno....
Not so sure the Chaos Gods can possibly be killed off entirely if you consider how they came into existence to begin with and what their source of power is. The things that fuel them, i.e. war, misery, pestilence, lust, etc. etc. will still exist in abundance so I think they would just reform over time. I think maybe the best would be to weaken them and then find a way to keep them in a weakened state whereby they cannot influence the material world, but how that could be done I dont know, and even then, they are eternal and you'd think eventually they'd find a way to creep back.
Wolf Lord has easily become one of my go to guys for Warhammer. Fitting in nicely with Lutin and GDN. Rho is especially awesome at giving us "the moments" between the wars.
Can we not dismiss that mortarions reply to his possible redemption right there was screaming noo before nurgle takes him. was that a defiant no I will never return. or no father please dont leave me here anylonger
@@masterrecon118 I thought the second one too when i heard it. Considering the Emp said he had to return to nurgle "the god he chose", Saying no doesnt make sence if he was saying it in defiance to the Emp. It only makes sence that he was saying "No i want to stay with you" but got pulled away by nurgle.
Considering him stuttering the word "father" just prior, the fact that the "no" came after the emperor said "for now you have to return to the master you chose" and the narrator stating he felt dread/fear as he was yanked by force into Nurgle's mansion, I'd say everything points to the latter. Also Mortarion was kinda forced to join Nurgle even if he did willingly sided with Horus, I don't think some of the primarchs knew what they were getting into at the time as far as the nature of Chaos. I also think that at that point many of the primarchs hadn't seen their father in a long time, all they heard was rumours that he abandoned them and is planning to get rid of them once the crusade was over, they were disgrunted. We have many examples in the books where people are in awe when in the presence of the emperor as a man and instantly feel devotion and loyalty to such a god like man. How many of the traitor primarchs would have made the same decision they did if standing in front of the emperor and being reminded of that feeling? Seems to me like Mortation got a bit of a reminded here, especially if we assume the Emepror here is even more godlike than he was as a man.
so it is said Russ will come back in the end times but what if the end times are not the end of the universe but the end of the grim darkness and the beginning of a new era of hope and growth
@@SirMcAwesome my comment was not Russ coming back once everything is nice but his return leading to Russ dragging everyone into a brighter future over the dead bodies of the imperium's foes
Maybe an end to not the dark galaxy but the corrupt Imperium and when the end times actually ends, a new human empire will rise and start a new golden age of technology. And when I say "new human empire", I don't mean the Imperium physically destroyed but instead reworked into the empire that the Big E wanted but failed to built.
The best part, in my opinion, was the way Mortarion seemed to not want to go back to Nurgle. It looks like Nurgle had to yank Mortarion back against his will. That means a lot of things, my favorite being Nurgle might have been afraid he would have lost Mortarion completely if he didn't yank him away from the Anathema. Anybody else get goosebumps?
As some one who lives in an inflation stricken country, where there is 0 chance of me ever getting my hands on new warhammer products i love this so much. Thank you
The fact the Emperor still loves his sons just proves the points I’ve made in the groups. He loves them all in his own way, sure he could have done better with some but he still loves them and that just shows he’s still human. And I feel like Mortarion had a small moment of clarity and wanted to go back and serve at his fathers side or beside his brother Guilliman
I'm still confused, so the emperor is back? Or did he possessed Robute to save him and ask Mortarion he can redeem himself and join the Imperium as a family again.
Imagine Russ, somewhere in the Garden of Nurgle, either searching for the Tree of Life and slaying demons by the thousands, or held captive by the god himself. Imagine him hearing the voice of Guilliman, the voice of his brother.
I cannot believe you did not talk about the best line in the entire scene. "This Realm is not real, only Will is real, and none may outmatch My Will" *Shiny Golden Mic Drop*
Incredible!! Wow! I love that the emperor are realizing the primarchs as victims that could be saved!! This is awesome!! And Mortarion not wanting to return to Nurgle!!!
Something I've noted from the new lore is that, Emps keeps referring to his last loyal son. I 'hope' its just writing style. But I'm concerned because I'd expect the Emperor to know where his sons are with how powerful he's grown, and that this could easily be an indication that the loyal Primarchs are dead dead, without means to bring them back. Feel like BigE would have tasked Roboute with gathering his sons back like some giant loot quest. I'm sure business wise it is so they can do big reveals, but I'd hope if it is they have decent lore friendly ways as to why BigE doesn't know where his loyalist sons are.
Emps reffering to Roboute as his last loyal son cuz hes hes the only one that stayed to try and keep the Imperium together after the heresy and when he revived while his brothers went ton revenge quests and other stuff
A possibility of a chaos God dying has crossed my mind. What if it's like the eldaari God Khaine and the c'tann where they are reduced to shards that can be summoned or imbue their followers with massive amounts of power. The destruction of a god may allow an aspect of that god more freedom in the material world in this way.
I guess it depends on how they're destroyed, if Nurgle is entirely burned away to nothing in the immaterium is that a true death? If so and nothing remains on either plane of exsistance is he just "gone"? the Necron had an interest in keeping the shards of their gods for a purpose and so destroyed them accordingly, Khaine was carelessly shattered in the method of his death and the Eldar took advantage of the situation as it presented itself. The Emperor has no interest in leaving Nurgle in any state other than truly annihilated so unless Nurgle has some kind of backup plan, I think (without warp nonsense of "nurgle is a perpetual") Big E could possibly start cleaning out the realm of souls, or at least weakening the chaos gods to the point where their influence can be mitigated in the materium. This would allow humanity to start working on contingencies to keep them and their influence out of the materium and isolated to the warp. Either way it's an interesting development.
@@toastymarket4089 true but at the same time the chaos God are just manifestations of the condition of the galaxy. Can they be truly destroyed without changing the state the galaxy is in substantially?
12:19 The warning of the Emperor to Chaos. I had tears of joy in my eyes, chills and a big smile because, as you say, for too long Nurgle has tipped the balance. For years people said he'd be the one that would ultimately consume and bring what was left to ruin. That the last defenders were fools and only delaying the inevitable...that there was no hope. Well, at last, when it seemed that theory would come to pass, the Imperial Players and Loyalists can look up and hope. It speaks to so much more than just 40K, even in the worst of times, there is always hope, even if you can't see it any more, never give in, never give up. The burning of Nurgles garden, something thought impossible and the line "understand that it is not only the warp that is capable of pushing back" was an awesome representation of the ideal, even if you can't see it, hope is always there. Thank you WolfLord for bringing this to us!!
The chaos gods have always worked through their subordinates, and at the very hint that the Emperor has a hand in it I doubt Nurgle would have dared show his face. I feel they would only be willing to come out "in person" if all 4 of them were willing to go in on it together. They're not even sure what the Emperor is capable of at this point, but he's probably even more dangerous than at the height of the heresy.
@@bloodangel19 He wasn't corrupted by the blade that turned Horus to chaos. I'm fairly certain with all the Webway hookers witchery that Yvraine shoved into him he can survive fulgurite. (The stuff that kills Perpetuals)
@@bgcvetan lol the joke was that he is basicaly Immortal now that the emperor won't let him go, so yeah, even if he gets shanked with Fulgurite the emperor would do what he did with Vulkan and bring him back. Hell he is better than a perpetual
I wonder if The Emperor also released that eldar goddess (sorry, I'm too much a dwarf to remember the name of pointed-eared pounces' gods). What little I remember of eldar background, Nurgle has an eldar goddess trapped within his garden, to test his newest plagues. I was thinking that if Nurgle had been weaken, or reduced his power to hide from Him, then it might be possible that the goddess could escape. And should this happen it could give the eldar one last chance to rebuild their race (also giving a great reason to re-do the eldar range). And where, in His Holy Name, was Russ?
Knowing GW, I'm sure they will take the chance to follow this up with a five-book series detailing how Isha (that goddess) takes the opportunity to escape, then at the end of the book trips over or something and gets recaptured because FUCK eldar, isn't that right GW?
I think the Sorrow in his eyes is more reflective of what he has become to do right by his Imperium, becoming the very thing he swore to destroy....a God
Sometimes I imagine what it would be like if the Emperor, Malcador and the Primarchs could watch and/or read the events of the books along with some important characters. It'd be quite the spectacle.
There is a series here on TH-cam called "fresh prince of 40k". It doesn't quite capture the grimdark theme, but the general context is the emperor discovering the great heresy at the beggining of the great crusade
There is a series on space battles forum about this very subject. The Emperor and all the primarch watch what if the emperor had a text to speech device.
The wolf lord has brought so much joy to a really tough time for us all. Seriously man thank you. Get sending this guy some stuff, he has truly re-ignited my long-dead passion for games workshop.
The perfect clone of fulgrim has his original untainted soul. And is more or less a returned redeemed fulgrim. We just have to wait for trazyn(GW) to let him out and play again.
If it is possible to redeem primarchs then dammit give Magnus another shot at redemption out of all of them he may have screwed up the most but dammit all he didn't want to fall in with the actual traitors to begin with
I'm sure GW will take the opportunity to have him rescue her so that she may then get hit by a drunk driver or something to fuck over Eldar players some more.
The end of Godblight is some of the most imaginative writing I have seen in a long time. How does a writer even begin to conceptualise, let alone pen, a heavenly avatar rising within a demi-God to give battle to a being so terrible, it can only exist as a metaphor? Guy Haley is the G.O.A.T
I've been wondering about something for a while. You don't seem to have any videos with Imperial Knights. Is it hard to find memorable moments with them or do they just not interest you?
This is the MOST SHOCKING LORE VIDEO I think I have ever seen, wolf lord rho have put together serval images and blended them together, even put some effects on them. What a time to be a live
The Chaos Gods: *The Anathema will be born soon, we must steal his sons, turn them against him and kill him* Hours Heresy: *....well that did not go as planned...* Present day: *we created the Anathema Chaos God brothers!!! Fffffffff!!!!*
I watched a Majorkill video where he said something about "The Emperor kicking Nurgle's shit in" and I was curious when did that happen. Thanks for explaining that!
guilliman will be aflicted by the warp energies of each of the chaos gods. after overcoming the corruption of each, guilliman will become anathema to chaos just like the emperor
A loyal Primary wouldn't go to sleep and leave the humans to defend themselves. The lion should have been there for mankind. He choose his path. Guilliman woke up and started right were he left off defending mankind again fighting Chaos and its own leaders.
Now this means one thing, The Rhana Dandra has begun. And one of the key players is definitely the Emperor himself!! This is chills down right to the core! Cegorachs final play, and the Emperor has a big role to play. To take the fight to Lords of Chaos is one epic I would really love to hear! But this is just one development. I wonder what does the other races has to say on this. Let alone, the external threats such as the Tyranids needs to be dealt with. I would really love to see an Alliance between other races with the Imperium! I think its just the best! 😎😎😎
Prediction: as the Emperor grows in power, it becomes clear that he is just as dangerous to humanity as Chaos itself. No longer human, the Emperor requires more and more sacrifices to empower him. Seeing this, a new heresy is born, led by Roboute Guilliman, who seeks to finish what his father started: the obliteration of all gods, even Mankind’s.
The emperor just pulled the ultimate dad move
"I am not mad just disappointed."
Destruction 100
Yeah. The, "I am disappointed in you."
My dad said it once to me. I only said that once to my third of seven. The sixth it's about once a month. I think they would rather have me hit them.
Roboute Guilliman: Yeah, I can relate.
What did you expect the emperor to get off his thrown and let amount infinite demons into the Imperial Palace and so many people are praying for him that's in the work he's breaking into a thousand pieces hilariously the only thing keeping the Imperium together is faith in the emperor
@@Commissar_Eiven Maybe just obliterate mortarian soul. It worked last time.
"The Chaos Gods do not fear the Emperor because of his champions, promises of science and technology or even his ability to wield the powers of a God. They fear that The Golden Throne is no longer keeping his decerped body intact - but rather constraining his ever growing abilities. They fear that one way or another - should the Emperor ever rise from his internment, he will do so not as a man, not as a God, but as a kind of power that reality has never seen."
A God that has been empowered by 10K years worth of countless billions fervently worshipping you? Yea, that will give the Four a run for their money
@@risa123456789 not even billions but QURADRILLIONS
put boldboi in the quote.. you heretic..
Eternal boring winning... in the happy shiny far future there is only assured victory and the feared cries of scared gods.
NOT QUADRILLINS BUT QUINTILLONS
The irony: Chaos created a hell of a mess but, conversely, created the environment in which Big E can manifest through others and remind them why he was dubbed Anathema.
Chaos is the true power in control in this universe. Anything that happens, happens because chaos allows it.
But if Horus had won humanity would have gone extinct leading to the Chaos Gods starving and becoming docile. The Great Game must go on. Player 5 has joined.
@@minnumseerrund this reminds me of what Big E said regarding Alpharius after Isstvan V. Also there is another irony here: Big E became a god, ultimately proving Lorgar right. Dor this reason I would love Big E/Lorgar reunion where Monarchia stood
@@Deamon93IT He became a God, he wasn't a God nor did he want to be one at the time so I don't really see how him becoming one proves Lorgar right.
@@minnumseerrund That future wasn't definitive. Eldrad already showed Gramatikus that the Kabal's theory was a flawed one and not guaranteed to happen.
I feel lucky to have gotten into the WH40k lore within the past few years, it seems like I came into the story at the right time to see the plotlines pushed forward.
Same here mate. I got into 40k in 2018 and got familiar with the lore around 2019 after binge watching luetin09 lore videos
Same man
Same, its nice seeing Humanity kick balls slowly.
Humanity first!
Same
Same. Glad i started making models last year :)
Am I hearing right, Mortarion felt fear when the Emperor was close, and then a tinge of love and joy at the sight of Him and fear, terror and regret at the thought of returning to Nurgle?
Yes that s exactly right ! Tbh mortarion never wanted to give his souls to nurgle
No, Morty felt no love or joy at seeing Big E, and he felt fear because he was going back in failure to Nurgles displeasure. Morty rebelled against a direct order from Nurgle to abandon Ultramar, and now he compounds disobedience with failure.
where did you hear the love and joy part? I didn't hear that
@@greg_4201 no, it didn't say it directly, I'm just inferring that from the way he acted.
@Adrian Kowalski that doesn't sound right, the primachs are the smartest people except for the big E, it doesn't make sence they wouldn't understand the current state of the emperor, surely they would be able to feel it
"Perhaps one day you might be saved."
That lends credence to the idea that the Emperor did speak to Curze before he died and that it wasn't Curze hallucinating.
40k redemption...is pain and death. Maybe he will sacrifice himself to bring back a brother
@@nofuxgivens2797 itd be wrongly funny yet sort of cool if Mortarion did that and brought back Konrad. 😂
@@Fatties09 curze? Is he really dead? Also I don't think he do anything but avoid being redeemed because he hates himself and unless he can inflict a satisfactory punishment upon his father he will never accept redemption
@@nofuxgivens2797 hard to say. The emperor brought a shade of ferrus' soul back for a time. I'd say curze is dead in rhe conventional sense but in other respects he's probably alive, just dormant.
@@Fatties09 If I'm remembering right, doesn't his crown have an eldar soul stone imbedded in it? The crown he wore when he let the assassin chop his head off in the book called Soul hunter. I'd say Cruze has a solid chance of coming back
Man, slowly but surely, TTS really is starting to become canon. That funny scene of Big E poking Tzeentch until he gave up Magnus's soul comes to mind.
Yes but no too
I don't blame GW for trying to copy it, some of the fancanons introduced would be pretty compelling if it happened in the actual lore, like Magnus being redeemed or even the Emperor's dismantling of the Inquisition by throwing them all into the warp, with a few changes of course to not make it COMPLETELY ridiculous, which is often the case with TTS at times.
GIVE ME THE SOUL! GIVE ME THE SOUL! GIVE ME THE SOUL! GIVE ME THE SOUL! GIVE ME THE SOUL!
Nurgle is not hiding behind the couch, he is the couch.
I imagine khorne sitting in nurgle the couch god neckbeard
*under the couch
He's the moldy pizza crust hiding between the cushions.
"Nurgle is not hiding behind the couch, he is the couch."
Nurgle... Plaguebearers...
Maybe the real plague was the friends we made along the way.
The couch behind the couch
I really hope we get a conversation between the Emperor in his current form and Lorgar. That would be absolutely fascinating.
Remove Choas
😝
Lorgar: See dad? I was right all along!
Man-Emperor: FUCK YOU LORGAR!
@@akumaking1 exactly
Told you so
Technically speaking, of the 4 Chaos Princes, Mortarian IS the easiest to redeem because even HE hates how he has fallen so far into the physic corruption that he and his sons have become desperate to use.
I know this is right, but Empereror TTS has skewed me toward Magnus' redemption..
@@TheChrisSig opens the door for angron and lorgar to take up the power vacume in the board game tbh
And then there's a loyal Fulgrim which simply needs to be found inside the Trazeen's closet
Perturabo could come back too, his deamon ascension was dumb and could be retconned
" the throne isnt keeping me alive, it's keeping you alive! "
Big E to Chaos.
Ecclesiarchy: "Why are you god?"
Emperor : "Who says I am god?"
Ecclesiarchy : "You are god."
Happy Lorgar,s screeming
@@cenktuneygok8986 Lemmy is God.
Huge props for Ugandan religious programming meme reference. Respect.
I love the emperor even more now knowing he still loves mortorian
He probably still loves all his children I think? Or has he stated he hates some of his children?
@@shiverman8 I wouldn't blame him for hating angron though lol.
He sees his failures in all of his traitor sons. All of his mistakes, everything he could have done to save them. He even says that Mortarion is as much a victim in this as he is a monster. The final push he needed to destroy Horus wasn't to save himself, but in seeing the complete anguish Horus was in, literally begging to be ended. Despite everything he was made to be, everything he has to be, the Emperor is still a Father.
@@pyerack It is most definitely NOT E’s fault that Angron is the way he is. He’s had multiple chances to remove the nails/turn back, he just hasn’t taken them.
In the end after all the things.
He love all of his sons.
Because the Primarchs after all are possible the last hope of mankind.
The Anathema awakes to forcibly administer a non consensual enema to the chaos gods. Epic.
Slaanesh will love that
@@xzenitramx666 i was about to write the same thing...🤣
@@xzenitramx666 Imagine slapping galaxy cheeks so hard that you become bored and gone to godhood just to do it again to another god. I imagine Emperor doing just that, oh wait-
The anathenema...
This warp needs an enema!
The irony: if chaos had just left the primarchs alone big E would still be but a immortal man and not in their home realm.
Hold up, with what he was beginning to create. Those gods may have felt that was their only chance. No one, except maybe tyranids, want beef with Big E
@@davidevans7477 I mean, the Orks would also keep fighting him just for the hell of it
@@TmanTheTdog Yeah, the Orks would love the fight
Not really considering he could freely exist in both the materium and immaterium at the same time
@@davidevans7477 tyranids go nom nom nom nom nom
I so hope we get more Primarchs back soon. Like Corvus. One can dream.
Naaaaahhhhh GM only cares about the uktramarines
If Corvus came back, I would be soooo happy - Southpark reference
I think the Lion is more likely
Technically Corvis did come back. He hasn’t returned to the imperium but in a very recent book he was shown to be active alive and well within the warp, hunting traitors.
No more Primarch's will come back for a very, very long time. GW ended up making 8th edition the push that they needed business wise, so they will stall it all out for as long as possible.
"Something huge was moving through the warp" Maybe Leman and/or Corvus took notice that daddy is back kicking ass and taking names?
how much would you bet Leman is a giant wolf just like Corvus is a giant raven wrapped in shadow?
I would like to point out that Matthew literally means Gift of God, so it's appropriate he's the one to "summon" the Emperor to destroy the cauldron
I interpreted the Emperor's sadness as him being sad that he had to become a god.
Same. He never wanted it.
"God damnit! That priest was right."
@@changer_of_ways_999 yup! God wins in the end after all. Lmao
He never asked for this.
To be fair, the Imperium is alive because of that though.
"The Emperor Strikes Back..." About damned time.
The Empire Strikes Back
Coming up next Common Senses last hope. The Eldar and the Imperium of Mankind vs All Tau nations.
Rogue AI relegalized
MORTARION: "Father!!!!! Oh SHIT!!!!"
EMPEROR: "THAT'S RIGHT; AND IT'S HITTING THE FAN NOW."
Daddy's back and he brought the belt.
@@Lelldorin84 I BROUGHT THE BELT. THE HOLY BELT!
*Mortarion running away*
"Where the hell you going boy!"
*Emperor throws his boot at him*
Almost spat my tea over nurgle hidding behind the sofa pretending he's not in.
Oh, he was in alright and looked frightened from his manor, terrified of what was about to happen.
Knock knock. Excuse me, but do you have sometime to talk about our lord and savior?
@@usernamunavailiable ya killing me lol
The emperor just burnt nurgles garden next week he’s going to put a dress on khorne
@@covenant_mog05 and the week way after that he's going to put Slaanesh in a straight jacket inside a cage that has a sign that says "Horny Jail"
Then he's going to go to Tzeentch's house, take off his human mask and say, "Just as planned."
@@changer_of_ways_999 nah, next next week he's going to go to Tzeentch's house to give Tzeentch a 1 on 1 tutoring lesson.
ahahaha
You know what is interesting is that the Emperor is a god of not just the Warp, but a god of the Material realm
I've never thought about it that way before. Pretty damn good point. Other than the Tau God of The GreaterGood, I think He's the only god that can even exist in both plains of reality.
He could only be in the material realm because of the mass amount of worship. Khorne demons can only be in the material realm for a long time if there is slaughter and shrines built to khorne, so maybe the emperor can only be walking around because of the ecclesiarchy and imperial creed.
He's not a god though but a strong ass psychic with advanced knowledge in gene-craft.
@@DanielScutt as they recruit more psychically active races to the greater good creed they are creating a god of the greater good and since time doesnt exist in the warp he will have always existed once he is born just like slaanesh.
@@John-qt8cl I just have to disagree. Why would the Chaos Gods be afraid of a mortal? He is a god.
The only line that would have made this scene better...
"And within that black house, Nurgle, that God of chaos, clutched the pearls around his neck"
Now THIS was some sick story progression!!! I'll literally shed man tears if theres a mortarian redemption story. That small glimmer of hope he had before being pulled away, that got me. So many of the primarchs really are victim's. :< big daddy needs to save them! 😭
"My cauldron!" - Nurgle, probably.
Have you ever smelled boiled cabbages? They belong in Nurgles' Cauldron
@@eccehobo "My cabbages!" - Nurgle?
@@guuspot923 Exactly
You tellin me you ain't got 7 iron ingots laying around? Make a new one.
Nurgle starts brewing his diseases in his bed pan instead
On one hand: Holy shit, new lore! The storyline advances
On the other hand: Oh no, the storyline advances... we've seen where that goes. End times, anyone?
Also, as long as you're moving forward, for the love of God don't make Guilliman be the end-all, give us another loyal Primarch. Dorn is really unlikely, but boy would I love it...
Just like TTS Stellaris Special Deceiver's rant about End Times...
@@98TheSzymon Isnt Khan in the warp somewhere? He could show up
@@davidr3146 Khan is in the webway
@@bloodangel19 Close enough lol. The point still stands though
@@davidr3146 true dat
the Emperor has turned humanities greatest flaw, into its greatest weapon. Faith.
He understood that its something we always turn to as a species in dire times. so it was his fail-safe after the HH when his other plans to protect humanity were undone.
Faith is not a flaw at all. The biggest flaw is the arrogance that you are showing.
I wonder if Russ has been traversing the warp all this time with a fragment of Big Lord Golden Chungus looking for the tree of life. Trying to find a way to bring his shattered consciousness together once again to heal his body so he can rise up to give Chaos a right good thrashing
@@pyerack "Guilliman you damn smurf that was going to fix dad!!" 🤣
golden chungus made me choke on my drink thank you for the laugh
@@pyerack The tree of life is Isha
I always wondered this.... The Eldar Goddess who is a prisoner of Nurgle, Isn't she the Goddess of Life, Health, and Fertility? I wonder if she is "The Seeds of the Tree of life."
Nurgle had to stay indoors, because if he left, then Russ and/or Harlequins would rescue Isha from his plague chambers.
this really could point to a escape of Isha from nurgle realm, the cauldron has been destroyed, the garden is cleansed, never has there been a better chance
@@night2501 I do want that to be the next thing. As an Eldar and Space Wolf player I want this really bad
@@Brad-yq3zm do you think if the elder got Isha back, the eldari would have increased fertility and could actually get a decent population back?
@@DreadPyriteBob that would make for a great thread and build up for future events. But just getting her back would be a win for everyone
It would be hilarious if Isha were freed and started worshiping the Emperor as the purifier of Chaos or something.
For some reason, with the way you described the part of Mortarion sensing the massive shadow of the emperor moving through the warp, made me think of being down in the ocean, and the shadow of a shark or a whale moving just out of sight in the depths. Like you see the silhouette, feel the water pressure moving and changing as it subtly(or not so subtly) pushes against you even though you can't see the source. Nothing you can do, but wait for it to approach, attack, or move away. Dread is the primary emotion that comes to mind, fear sure, but nothing crawls into your heart like an unseen foe, that you know outclasses you, especially when you're on THEIR turf.
I was worried during the heresy that the emperor wasn’t aware of what truly happen to mortorian and why he decided to convert into a daemon
The Board is Set says he knew but that it surprised him.
Yeah, it implies that of all the times he had forseen the heresy he hadnt envisioned a fallen morty and that changed his endgame.
I think the Emperor still loves all his sons, even the fallen ones. I WANT the Emperor to return but who will keep the warp tear in the webway closed?
But he HAS returned already. His presence in the Warp is already extremely active. He doesn't need to get off the golden throne to be a major player in galactic affairs.
In all honesty, I don't really get the whole "warp tear in the webway" needing babysitting. We have examples of powerful psykers but obviously nowhere near the level of the emperor closing warp rifts, so why couldn't the emperor close it in the first place? He even had malcador to help him back then, could have possibly asked magnus to help too before magnus turned traitor considering it was his fault to begin with. And if we assume that its just so massive it can't be easily repaired, then surely now that the emperor is powerful enough to confront and curbstomb a chaos god he could do so.
The emperor is schitzo! He should just get one of the voices in his head to mind the demon gate!
Seal off the Palace and blast the power through the Webway, incinerating all the wacky daemons and unlucky dark eldar too slow to run. It becomes the Emperor’s realm in the Warp, allowing a faster/safer transport option.
But forces the evil inside out in other places causing many shenanigans.
Maybe Terra itself is splintered but held together by the Emperor’s might. Huge chunks of floating continents orbiting a as psychic star. Chunks of Terra can be mined, metal or crystals, infused with holy power to make new weapons to sell at exorbitant prices
@@80krauser , that is hinted at in the Horus Heresy, Magus was given a vision of him sitting on the thrown screaming into the warp for all eternity.
I am still working my way through the Horus Heresey series, however I am getting chills from this. I am putting the Dark Imperium on my read next list! Keep up the fantastic work Rho!
Nurgle: :hides in the bedroom closet as Big E shows up: Isha! Close the curtain, lock the doors, get Morty in here and pretend no one's home!
I bet emps is going to try to recollect his sons like the great crusade
I'm getting the feeling that we might see ascended primarchs now. We the Emperor's soul inside them. Something to revivify the loyalist legions. This was damn cool. I'm excited to see where this story takes us.
"Mortarion felt something huge and dangerous move through the warp."
*Jaws* Da nah
What was that?!
Everybody a gangster until the Emperor of Mankind shows up.
we are smart enough to bow.
So what does the whole last son mean? We know the Lion is still around, just taking a nap and Corax is hunting down Lorgar. The other loyalists are dead or lost, but that leaves three loyal sons that could lead the Imperium.
I imagine its more a thing that loyal sons wouldn't leave the imperium to fend for itself meaning probably the lion as the only other loyal son but he isn't around I guess
Well I think it is a bad idea to tell the chaos gods that he knows the other loyalist primarchs are alive
Let's not forget about Fulgrim who is a museum piece now
Its because Roboute is the only loyalist primarch who is both still alive, active and actually working to defend and protect the Imperium. Corax has turned into an individual obsessed with vengeance and has abandoned the Imperium as was the same with Vulcan up to the war of the beast. We don't know the status of the Khan or Russ but both of them kinda retreated back to their worlds and eventually just disappeared. Dorn actually tried to hold the Imperium together however we unfortunately don't know his status as well so he could be alive or dead but I feel if Dorn was alive he would have revealed himself by now as it's not in Dorns nature to hide while the Imperium burns.
this is said from the perspective of Roboute, for what he can see, all the other primarchs are either evil, dead, mia, or banished from existence. He said that because he thinks he is alone.
For the EMPEROR!
Heals all wounds??
Does that mean Gulliman has been purged of the poison Fulgrim infected him with??
@@timothylyons5686 Don't think logically heretic were making this up as we go along! Inquistor Haley.
@@gavinr4214 what?, Gillian was possessed by the emperor and pretty much cleansed the infection, the Big E is coming for you ☠️
I think..that the wolf fella will find a way too bring back the emporah!! and it requires the sacrifice of a Primach too do it. The way that a fallen primach might redeem himself is too sacrafice himself willingly...and boom the emporah is back.
EMPORAH!
@@davidcoppenhagen HERESY!!
@@ryanthompson5761 I have spoken to my comissar about the comment above and I must confirm that it is not in fact a heresy
@@ivanyekimov1470 I too have spoken too the Comissar, we had a slapping contest, and during set comment he admitted too me it is in fact heresy!!
Mortarion won’t be redeemed in the sense he will be walking around shouting for the emperor instead there will be a scene where he has a choice follow nurgle and remain a slave or help stop chaos and die free. Mortarions redemption will come with his death
I wonder if this had any impact upon Isha . Perhaps Nurgle was weaker from this and Isha slipped from the cage which held her while she had the chance.
I want to , if 40K ever reaches an end where the chaos gods are killed, I want to see the emperor himself strike like, nurgle or slaanesh down with a single blow, simultaneously smiting every single demon they have spawned, not fully killing them, but wrecking ALL of their shit. Its most likely never going to happen, but I can dream
I want Slaanesh to be obliterated by Ynead, Slaanesh has the last crone sword but that could be easy for a blank to steal
@@exponenttie9707 it is not from Slaanesh that Eldar will need to steal from, in the end it will be the almighty Blood Ravens who acquire the last Crone Sword :p
@@pyerack Comparing C'tan to the chaos gods is a bit ridiculous considering they are polar opposites. C'tan are entirely physical god like beings, the chaos gods are completely of the warp. This is why the C'Tan and old ones were nemeses. It makes sense that the C'Tan could be shattered not so sure about the chaos gods. Then again, we have Khaine who was apparently shattered and he was a warp god so I dunno....
Not so sure the Chaos Gods can possibly be killed off entirely if you consider how they came into existence to begin with and what their source of power is. The things that fuel them, i.e. war, misery, pestilence, lust, etc. etc. will still exist in abundance so I think they would just reform over time. I think maybe the best would be to weaken them and then find a way to keep them in a weakened state whereby they cannot influence the material world, but how that could be done I dont know, and even then, they are eternal and you'd think eventually they'd find a way to creep back.
@@SirMcAwesome Indeed. I believe it will be more of a bring them back in balance with the universe.
Wolf Lord has easily become one of my go to guys for Warhammer. Fitting in nicely with Lutin and GDN. Rho is especially awesome at giving us "the moments" between the wars.
The dude speaks slow as fuck though.
But oh well, that's what the 1.5X speed button is for.
@@MrXandervm Yea I guess, I mean if 15 minutes is too long then sure. I don't think he speaks any slower then any of the others.
Big E channeling his inner Booker T: "We comin' for you Nurgle!"
Captian America: I understood that reference
Did Roboute's body get fully healed?? As in his neck scar is gone and all his other injuries that've plagued him?
89k, only 1000 more to Primarch week! Good going Rho!
12:40 the emperor literally sprayed nurgle's garden with pesticide
Can we not dismiss that mortarions reply to his possible redemption right there was screaming noo before nurgle takes him. was that a defiant no I will never return. or no father please dont leave me here anylonger
I'm leaning towards the second one
@@masterrecon118 I thought the second one too when i heard it. Considering the Emp said he had to return to nurgle "the god he chose", Saying no doesnt make sence if he was saying it in defiance to the Emp. It only makes sence that he was saying "No i want to stay with you" but got pulled away by nurgle.
Mortty: Daddy i want home
Considering him stuttering the word "father" just prior, the fact that the "no" came after the emperor said "for now you have to return to the master you chose" and the narrator stating he felt dread/fear as he was yanked by force into Nurgle's mansion, I'd say everything points to the latter. Also Mortarion was kinda forced to join Nurgle even if he did willingly sided with Horus, I don't think some of the primarchs knew what they were getting into at the time as far as the nature of Chaos.
I also think that at that point many of the primarchs hadn't seen their father in a long time, all they heard was rumours that he abandoned them and is planning to get rid of them once the crusade was over, they were disgrunted. We have many examples in the books where people are in awe when in the presence of the emperor as a man and instantly feel devotion and loyalty to such a god like man. How many of the traitor primarchs would have made the same decision they did if standing in front of the emperor and being reminded of that feeling? Seems to me like Mortation got a bit of a reminded here, especially if we assume the Emepror here is even more godlike than he was as a man.
so it is said Russ will come back in the end times but what if the end times are not the end of the universe but the end of the grim darkness and the beginning of a new era of hope and growth
Russ coming back once everything is nice and chill rather than coming back for a big ass epic fight? Doesn't sound right at all.
@@SirMcAwesome my comment was not Russ coming back once everything is nice but his return leading to Russ dragging everyone into a brighter future over the dead bodies of the imperium's foes
Maybe an end to not the dark galaxy but the corrupt Imperium and when the end times actually ends, a new human empire will rise and start a new golden age of technology. And when I say "new human empire", I don't mean the Imperium physically destroyed but instead reworked into the empire that the Big E wanted but failed to built.
Boo! My Little Pony 50,000 sounds like shit!
The best part, in my opinion, was the way Mortarion seemed to not want to go back to Nurgle. It looks like Nurgle had to yank Mortarion back against his will. That means a lot of things, my favorite being Nurgle might have been afraid he would have lost Mortarion completely if he didn't yank him away from the Anathema. Anybody else get goosebumps?
Its about time Chaos got a swift kick in the ass. Too long have they enjoyed their advantage.
Guilliman be like: “Winter is coming”
Only it isn’t Winter that’s coming for the Lord of Decay, it’s something far more dangerous...
A big bottle of TCP
Cato Sicarius
Tell them what you saw tell them house of the golden light came for house nurgle
Sly Marbo!
A firestorm
''I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleaping giant and fill him with a terrible resolt.''
As some one who lives in an inflation stricken country, where there is 0 chance of me ever getting my hands on new warhammer products i love this so much. Thank you
No lie, my arms are covered in goose bumps, I didnt think that could even happen to me anymore! lol, epic.
You've done it! Epic stuff and just ordered my first 40K novel haha! Godblight and thanks Wolf Lord 🙂
I'd love to see the death guard saved and becoming loyal again. They make up the rank and file of my homebrew Primaris force.
Holy shit I can't believe it... The Emperor is really coming back! What a time to be alive!
The fact the Emperor still loves his sons just proves the points I’ve made in the groups. He loves them all in his own way, sure he could have done better with some but he still loves them and that just shows he’s still human.
And I feel like Mortarion had a small moment of clarity and wanted to go back and serve at his fathers side or beside his brother Guilliman
He also had a diaper change moment
@@derrickparran oh most definitely😂
I'm still confused, so the emperor is back? Or did he possessed Robute to save him and ask Mortarion he can redeem himself and join the Imperium as a family again.
@@vothbetilia4862 the second one
@@ImperialHell172 Thanks, btw is it considered canon too, I'm new to 40k still.
Imagine Russ, somewhere in the Garden of Nurgle, either searching for the Tree of Life and slaying demons by the thousands, or held captive by the god himself. Imagine him hearing the voice of Guilliman, the voice of his brother.
After a very disappointing GW Warhammer+ monthly on-line service reveal, it is time to pick up my spirits with more Wolf Lord Rho content.
I cannot believe you did not talk about the best line in the entire scene.
"This Realm is not real, only Will is real, and none may outmatch My Will"
*Shiny Golden Mic Drop*
it's either the Emperor or Guilliman is on the way to becoming a god himself.
Incredible!! Wow! I love that the emperor are realizing the primarchs as victims that could be saved!! This is awesome!! And Mortarion not wanting to return to Nurgle!!!
Something I've noted from the new lore is that, Emps keeps referring to his last loyal son. I 'hope' its just writing style. But I'm concerned because I'd expect the Emperor to know where his sons are with how powerful he's grown, and that this could easily be an indication that the loyal Primarchs are dead dead, without means to bring them back.
Feel like BigE would have tasked Roboute with gathering his sons back like some giant loot quest.
I'm sure business wise it is so they can do big reveals, but I'd hope if it is they have decent lore friendly ways as to why BigE doesn't know where his loyalist sons are.
Emps reffering to Roboute as his last loyal son cuz hes hes the only one that stayed to try and keep the Imperium together after the heresy and when he revived while his brothers went ton revenge quests and other stuff
When I read that, I started yelling "YEAH GETTEM BIG E!" plus a few explicative. Such a powerful moment.
"Mortarion! You have some splaining to do"!
I totally said that in Ricki's voice
Lol. I can’t get the image of Nurgle hiding behind his couch trembling in fear of the bright light outside.
A possibility of a chaos God dying has crossed my mind. What if it's like the eldaari God Khaine and the c'tann where they are reduced to shards that can be summoned or imbue their followers with massive amounts of power. The destruction of a god may allow an aspect of that god more freedom in the material world in this way.
I guess it depends on how they're destroyed, if Nurgle is entirely burned away to nothing in the immaterium is that a true death? If so and nothing remains on either plane of exsistance is he just "gone"? the Necron had an interest in keeping the shards of their gods for a purpose and so destroyed them accordingly, Khaine was carelessly shattered in the method of his death and the Eldar took advantage of the situation as it presented itself.
The Emperor has no interest in leaving Nurgle in any state other than truly annihilated so unless Nurgle has some kind of backup plan, I think (without warp nonsense of "nurgle is a perpetual") Big E could possibly start cleaning out the realm of souls, or at least weakening the chaos gods to the point where their influence can be mitigated in the materium. This would allow humanity to start working on contingencies to keep them and their influence out of the materium and isolated to the warp.
Either way it's an interesting development.
@@toastymarket4089 true but at the same time the chaos God are just manifestations of the condition of the galaxy. Can they be truly destroyed without changing the state the galaxy is in substantially?
@@toastymarket4089 to truly kill korne you would need to end war and warlike tendencies and so on and so forth.
@@michaelo5665 not quite; you could shatter them, forcing a hard restart/rebirth
Just like Malal who is now Malice
12:19 The warning of the Emperor to Chaos.
I had tears of joy in my eyes, chills and a big smile because, as you say, for too long Nurgle has tipped the balance. For years people said he'd be the one that would ultimately consume and bring what was left to ruin. That the last defenders were fools and only delaying the inevitable...that there was no hope.
Well, at last, when it seemed that theory would come to pass, the Imperial Players and Loyalists can look up and hope.
It speaks to so much more than just 40K, even in the worst of times, there is always hope, even if you can't see it any more, never give in, never give up.
The burning of Nurgles garden, something thought impossible and the line "understand that it is not only the warp that is capable of pushing back" was an awesome representation of the ideal, even if you can't see it, hope is always there.
Thank you WolfLord for bringing this to us!!
If E thinks a fully demonic son can be redeemed then everything is on the table
The chaos gods have always worked through their subordinates, and at the very hint that the Emperor has a hand in it I doubt Nurgle would have dared show his face. I feel they would only be willing to come out "in person" if all 4 of them were willing to go in on it together. They're not even sure what the Emperor is capable of at this point, but he's probably even more dangerous than at the height of the heresy.
He died, But He Survived. Nothing like Guilliman coming back.
There is a reason why the greatest of them all, are the Ultramarines.
He survived his own death twice. Thought the emperor had a single perpetual son
@@bloodangel19 He wasn't corrupted by the blade that turned Horus to chaos. I'm fairly certain with all the Webway hookers witchery that Yvraine shoved into him he can survive fulgurite. (The stuff that kills Perpetuals)
@@bgcvetan lol the joke was that he is basicaly Immortal now that the emperor won't let him go, so yeah, even if he gets shanked with Fulgurite the emperor would do what he did with Vulkan and bring him back. Hell he is better than a perpetual
Remember that Tu’Shan hugged the Blood Angels back to sanity… so… yeah. Sorry Ultrasmurfs, Salamanders better.
@@JerodTrd The Kindest of them all are the Salamanders.
The emperor really pulled up on nurgle like “what’s good now? Not so tough now that I can get up from my god couch huh?“
I love it
I wonder if The Emperor also released that eldar goddess (sorry, I'm too much a dwarf to remember the name of pointed-eared pounces' gods). What little I remember of eldar background, Nurgle has an eldar goddess trapped within his garden, to test his newest plagues. I was thinking that if Nurgle had been weaken, or reduced his power to hide from Him, then it might be possible that the goddess could escape. And should this happen it could give the eldar one last chance to rebuild their race (also giving a great reason to re-do the eldar range).
And where, in His Holy Name, was Russ?
Knowing GW, I'm sure they will take the chance to follow this up with a five-book series detailing how Isha (that goddess) takes the opportunity to escape, then at the end of the book trips over or something and gets recaptured because FUCK eldar, isn't that right GW?
I think the Sorrow in his eyes is more reflective of what he has become to do right by his Imperium, becoming the very thing he swore to destroy....a God
Sometimes I imagine what it would be like if the Emperor, Malcador and the Primarchs could watch and/or read the events of the books along with some important characters. It'd be quite the spectacle.
There is a series here on TH-cam called "fresh prince of 40k". It doesn't quite capture the grimdark theme, but the general context is the emperor discovering the great heresy at the beggining of the great crusade
There is a series on space battles forum about this very subject. The Emperor and all the primarch watch what if the emperor had a text to speech device.
The wolf lord has brought so much joy to a really tough time for us all. Seriously man thank you. Get sending this guy some stuff, he has truly re-ignited my long-dead passion for games workshop.
When will my boy Fulgrim finally see the light and be redeemed?
Hes no far gone now the clone by the other hand.
After the big pageant
@@minnumseerrund imagine a drag queen show but it’s just Slaanesh and the important Emperor’s Children
The disinfectant light and promethium?
The perfect clone of fulgrim has his original untainted soul. And is more or less a returned redeemed fulgrim. We just have to wait for trazyn(GW) to let him out and play again.
"tell y'step-daddy I'mma whoop his ass"
*sets Nurgle's hedges on fire*
If it is possible to redeem primarchs then dammit give Magnus another shot at redemption out of all of them he may have screwed up the most but dammit all he didn't want to fall in with the actual traitors to begin with
man what a missed opertunity to have Guiliman rescue Isha. imagine the Eldar reaction to owing humanity THAT BADLY
I'm sure GW will take the opportunity to have him rescue her so that she may then get hit by a drunk driver or something to fuck over Eldar players some more.
@@SpaghettiToaster you're right and it makes me sad
6:22 When dad hears you bullying your brother
hhahah "i am in danger!!!! "
The end of Godblight is some of the most imaginative writing I have seen in a long time.
How does a writer even begin to conceptualise, let alone pen, a heavenly avatar rising within a demi-God to give battle to a being so terrible, it can only exist as a metaphor?
Guy Haley is the G.O.A.T
I've been wondering about something for a while. You don't seem to have any videos with Imperial Knights. Is it hard to find memorable moments with them or do they just not interest you?
This is the MOST SHOCKING LORE VIDEO I think I have ever seen, wolf lord rho have put together serval images and blended them together, even put some effects on them. What a time to be a live
The Chaos Gods: *The Anathema will be born soon, we must steal his sons, turn them against him and kill him*
Hours Heresy: *....well that did not go as planned...*
Present day: *we created the Anathema Chaos God brothers!!! Fffffffff!!!!*
I watched a Majorkill video where he said something about "The Emperor kicking Nurgle's shit in" and I was curious when did that happen. Thanks for explaining that!
guilliman will be aflicted by the warp energies of each of the chaos gods. after overcoming the corruption of each, guilliman will become anathema to chaos just like the emperor
Or the new vessel of the emperor.
That would be awesome!!
As a person who has been into Warhammer 40k for years and years this is such a moment....I just can't believe it.
He keeps saying that Guiliman is the last loyal surviving Primarch, Lion El Johnson is still alive in the rock, so I call bs
I suppose technically he's comatose
Also, Russ, Corax, Jaghatai, possibly even Dorn and Vulkan are just lost, not really confirmed dead
A loyal Primary wouldn't go to sleep and leave the humans to defend themselves. The lion should have been there for mankind. He choose his path. Guilliman woke up and started right were he left off defending mankind again fighting Chaos and its own leaders.
The emperor lies alot. Ask the Thunder Warriors.
@@cbakerarmy25 Wasn't the lion like on the verge of death or something? im not reall familliar with his lore
So excited for this week's videos! This was such a phenomenal book!
#BlameLorgar
Now this means one thing, The Rhana Dandra has begun. And one of the key players is definitely the Emperor himself!!
This is chills down right to the core! Cegorachs final play, and the Emperor has a big role to play. To take the fight to Lords of Chaos is one epic I would really love to hear!
But this is just one development. I wonder what does the other races has to say on this. Let alone, the external threats such as the Tyranids needs to be dealt with.
I would really love to see an Alliance between other races with the Imperium! I think its just the best! 😎😎😎
Prediction: as the Emperor grows in power, it becomes clear that he is just as dangerous to humanity as Chaos itself. No longer human, the Emperor requires more and more sacrifices to empower him.
Seeing this, a new heresy is born, led by Roboute Guilliman, who seeks to finish what his father started: the obliteration of all gods, even Mankind’s.
heresy !!!!!!!!
Wolf Lord Rho the way you describe things in this video especially the Emperor and primarks is absolute masterpice thank you for this great video.