Oooww. We're I was 8 or 9 years old when I first saw this episode and. I'm still shuck up!!! I could only fantasies about Susan Oliver & Nichell Nickols painted green dancing in this episode.
It's amazing when the set crew moved that stone wall it didn't get picked up on the microphones. In "Where no man has gone before", when the red alert is sounded, and Kirk, Spock, and Mr Mitchell rush into the turbolift, you can hear the set crew moving the false wall used to create the effect of an unbroken shot of the turbolift moving up from a lower deck corridor to the bridge.
The story goes that despite having "space babes" in skimpy costumes by 1966-67, this pilot was rejected by NBC, in part, because Susan Oliver's green-skinned Orion slave girl dance was too overtly sexual for 1964 audiences.
Agreed. Producer Gene Roddenberry wanted as much sexuality as he could get away with. Kirk got to lip-lock with Barbara Luna and France Nuyen. And what about Yvonne Craig and the slave girl in Bread and Circuses?
I recall also reading that Susan Oliver was particularly amused by how markedly different all the men on the set behaved when she was in costume compared to when she was just rehearsing. Suddenly all these people who only a day earlier had been chit chatting and gabbing it up with her started acting like they either could not take their eyes off her, or like they were afraid to even glance at her.
The story isn't true. The real reason is NBC found the pilot too boring. They didn't have a problem with the slave girl. Think about it NBC didn't like the dancing girl all they had to do was either take out the scene or reshoot it. They wouldnt spend time and money on writing a new pilot and filming it instead of changing one scene.
The quote "Suppose you had all of space to choose from, and this was only one small sample. Wouldn't you say it was worth a man's soul?" is a rhetorical question that suggests the incredible value and vastness of space exploration. In the context of the play "Doctor Faustus," the character Dr. Faust is a scholar who is dissatisfied with his life and seeks knowledge beyond what is possible through traditional means. He makes a pact with the devil, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures. Therefore, in the context of the play, the quote implies that the knowledge and experience gained from exploring all of space would be worth the cost of a person's soul, as Dr. Faust believes that the pursuit of knowledge and power is more important than anything else, including his own soul. However, the quote is also a commentary on the dangers of obsession and the potential costs of pursuing knowledge and power at any cost.
Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode where the guy traded his soul after death to the devil for 3 wishes and his 3rd wish was for eternal life. He thought he had tricked the devil.
She reminds me of the woman in the twilight zone episode " people are alike allover" and also Madonna. Especially in the lyrics of la isla bonita when she says "young girl with eyes like the desert"
Not necessarily. I agree Susan was excellent but Yvonne Craig (Batgirl) and Barbara Eden (I Dream of Jeanie) were seriously considered for the part. Either one could have equalled Susan in sensuality and acting ability. In fact, Yvonne Craig did eventually play an Orion slave girl in a later episode of the original Star Trek.
You might be right, Sullivan. She was mega-ultra-perfect for this role. Yvonne Craig certainly could not have done quite as well. Eden would have been a little inferior too
@@bigandbosomy6183 I can only imagine of how the ladies responded to all of that green paint ( or, if it was paint) during the production of those episodes. I sincerely hope that they didn't suffer.
This is the first - and last - time we see the stunningly sharp, original Full Dress Uniform. Each version that came after it, up through the TNG era, was hideous.
So basically in this reality, captain pike owned a strip club. And the actual interpretation of Captain Pike he felt uncomfortable being there? Or was it something in him that he was trying to defuse? Did he like what he saw and didn't feel comfortable stealing that way, or did he dislike it so much that he didn't know how to handle himself?
Earlier in the episode, Pike was talking with the ship’s doctor about his dissatisfaction with being a starship captain, and mentioned becoming an Orion trader as a possible career choice. This scene illustrates Pike’s confrontation with that idea, and his realizing that he wasn’t comfortable with it, especially with Vina trying to appeal to his more sensual nature.
@@PhantomObserver yeah that's what I got. So in essence he didn't really know what it was like to be an Orion trader and how seedy things could get. It's like he fantasized about it but really couldn't handle it. But did he have sex with Vina in the cave outside the entertainment area? She followed him.
None of the above, I think. He remembered his real life and knew this was some kind of illusion. He knew this sensual paradise was fake and wondered how and why he got there.
Been hella cool if she jumped into that water there lol.... Or made it look like she did... They could have thrown a rock into the pool to make it look like she did.
🤑If I had won the billion-dollar Powerball Jackpot, I would have bought a palace, made some friends who are women, and we would have body painted our bodies green full time to act sexy with our boyfriends; giggle!🤭
No need for a billion dollars, just a couple of pints of Orion Green acrylic paint and plastic vines from Hobby Lobby and your boyfriend would think he was a starship captain.
The bald guy was perfect casting. Really greasy evil.
This episode was absolutely GREAT!!!
Rest in Peace, Susan Oliver
The Cage still ranks as the best of Trek.
Great! Now that music is going to be in my head for a week. Just like it was when I was 13....
A year later, how ya doing with that music ? :)
Funny just watched that episode two weeks ago. So it's still there...@@lowcountrylass24
This was such a great episode. I just saw the re run again recently, I can watch it over and over.
The NitJerk suits were crazy to reject this.
Oooww. We're
I was 8 or 9 years old when I first saw this episode and. I'm still shuck up!!! I could only fantasies about Susan Oliver & Nichell Nickols painted green dancing in this episode.
This is my favorite episode.
It's amazing when the set crew moved that stone wall it didn't get picked up on the microphones.
In "Where no man has gone before", when the red alert is sounded, and Kirk, Spock, and Mr Mitchell rush into the turbolift, you can hear the set crew moving the false wall used to create the effect of an unbroken shot of the turbolift moving up from a lower deck corridor to the bridge.
The best Star Trek episode,and Shattner wasn’t even in it. All it took was a green Orion slave girl dancing and a killer script.
Yes, Definitely Worth a Man's Soul !
Are you getting paid for this comment? To "degenerate" people?
The story goes that despite having "space babes" in skimpy costumes by 1966-67, this pilot was rejected by NBC, in part, because Susan Oliver's green-skinned Orion slave girl dance was too overtly sexual for 1964 audiences.
How was this worse than the belly dance from Wolf in the Fold?
Agreed. Producer Gene Roddenberry wanted as much sexuality as he could get away with. Kirk got to lip-lock with Barbara Luna and France Nuyen. And what about Yvonne Craig and the slave girl in Bread and Circuses?
@@Rickwmc Right? This show got away with plenty of racy shit for it's time (I find it impressive- you can show that but can't say hell).
I recall also reading that Susan Oliver was particularly amused by how markedly different all the men on the set behaved when she was in costume compared to when she was just rehearsing. Suddenly all these people who only a day earlier had been chit chatting and gabbing it up with her started acting like they either could not take their eyes off her, or like they were afraid to even glance at her.
The story isn't true. The real reason is NBC found the pilot too boring. They didn't have a problem with the slave girl. Think about it NBC didn't like the dancing girl all they had to do was either take out the scene or reshoot it. They wouldnt spend time and money on writing a new pilot and filming it instead of changing one scene.
Susan Oliver is saying at the end to Jeffrey Hunter "...I'm gonna peel you like a grape!"
1:01 Any man, worth his salt, who isn't aroused by that bump and grind must be dead.
shes magnificent!
Yes. A superb choice unequaled!
In answer to the larger gentleman's query ... YES OH GOD YES! THIS LOOKS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, TAKE MY WORTHLESS SOUL!!!!!!
i like the music and vina's clothing
Fantástic!!!! Amazon!!!!Wonderful!!!!
The greatest scene in TV history. The Green Orion Slave Girl. Get Out Of Town!
I'm surprised her dance made it past the censors. Pretty risque for 1965-66 TV.
The quote "Suppose you had all of space to choose from, and this was only one small sample. Wouldn't you say it was worth a man's soul?" is a rhetorical question that suggests the incredible value and vastness of space exploration.
In the context of the play "Doctor Faustus," the character Dr. Faust is a scholar who is dissatisfied with his life and seeks knowledge beyond what is possible through traditional means. He makes a pact with the devil, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures.
Therefore, in the context of the play, the quote implies that the knowledge and experience gained from exploring all of space would be worth the cost of a person's soul, as Dr. Faust believes that the pursuit of knowledge and power is more important than anything else, including his own soul. However, the quote is also a commentary on the dangers of obsession and the potential costs of pursuing knowledge and power at any cost.
Imagine trading an eternal torment in Hell for a mere 50 years of pleasure.
Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode where the guy traded his soul after death to the devil for 3 wishes and his 3rd wish was for eternal life. He thought he had tricked the devil.
Susan Oliver Rules
I loved seeing her this way. She should've stayed like that.
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Amazing....
If this were filmed today, VINA would be dancing on a POLE or something.
She reminds me of the woman in the twilight zone episode " people are alike allover" and also Madonna. Especially in the lyrics of la isla bonita when she says "young girl with eyes like the desert"
Melissa Turner could be her, she played in it
Susan Oliver was indeed the actress in the Twilight Zone episode.
Even Mr Spock would get a bone 💪🏿
He did in the bloopers
Really Pon Farr-out.
Not unless the seven years were up.
"She-hulk... SMASH!!!
SMASH YOU ALL!!!"
This music is similar to the one used in the belly dancing scene in Carry On Follow That Camel.
does anybody know that music?
are you find it ??
Look up Vina's dance OST. Should pop up pretty quickly (one of my favorite songs from TOS).
@@lunad27 That musical number was recycled for the Iranian belly dancer Tanya Lemani in episode Wolf In The Fold.
th-cam.com/video/_EXlA2O8aqU/w-d-xo.html here
Fans may wonder if Twi Lek women from Star Wars were inspired by the Orion women.
Only Susan Oliver could pull this off.
Not necessarily. I agree Susan was excellent but Yvonne Craig (Batgirl) and Barbara Eden (I Dream of Jeanie) were seriously considered for the part. Either one could have equalled Susan in sensuality and acting ability. In fact, Yvonne Craig did eventually play an Orion slave girl in a later episode of the original Star Trek.
Susan Oliver was better than Yvonne Craig. How many places could Eden be?
You might be right, Sullivan. She was mega-ultra-perfect for this role. Yvonne Craig certainly could not have done quite as well. Eden would have been a little inferior too
@@toussaintf1 Yes, she did. And she was quite remarkable in that role.
@@bigandbosomy6183 I can only imagine of how the ladies responded to all of that green paint ( or, if it was paint) during the production of those episodes. I sincerely hope that they didn't suffer.
This is the first - and last - time we see the stunningly sharp, original Full Dress Uniform. Each version that came after it, up through the TNG era, was hideous.
Greg Heilers, is that what that officer is wearing? I've always loved it's look, I just figured it was a more casual uniform.
They finally got it right for Insurrection
Anyone knows the actor 0:04? He is from the fleet obviously, but I do not know him nor the actor...
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I had all ways loved this scene of Vina dancing as a Orion slave girl. To Have written down a story of a slave girl dancer being chased by hunter's.
They changed the way they ended the music in this digitally enhanced version. I like Susan Oliver better more as her real life sexy self.
I thought it sounded different
So basically in this reality, captain pike owned a strip club. And the actual interpretation of Captain Pike he felt uncomfortable being there? Or was it something in him that he was trying to defuse? Did he like what he saw and didn't feel comfortable stealing that way, or did he dislike it so much that he didn't know how to handle himself?
Earlier in the episode, Pike was talking with the ship’s doctor about his dissatisfaction with being a starship captain, and mentioned becoming an Orion trader as a possible career choice. This scene illustrates Pike’s confrontation with that idea, and his realizing that he wasn’t comfortable with it, especially with Vina trying to appeal to his more sensual nature.
@@PhantomObserver yeah that's what I got. So in essence he didn't really know what it was like to be an Orion trader and how seedy things could get. It's like he fantasized about it but really couldn't handle it. But did he have sex with Vina in the cave outside the entertainment area? She followed him.
None of the above, I think. He remembered his real life and knew this was some kind of illusion. He knew this sensual paradise was fake and wondered how and why he got there.
Is this the only time they show Orion women as being taller than men from Earth?
Does anyone know what instruments were used for the music?
No. Just the bongo drums. But the music was performed by that band live. It was not taped before hand or added in in editing.
Full studio orchestra
Been hella cool if she jumped into that water there lol.... Or made it look like she did... They could have thrown a rock into the pool to make it look like she did.
At least the MC is more moral?
Oooww. Weee
She was whipped in the script but it was cut from tv. Damned shame if you ask me.
1:35 gay
So exploitation, including sxual by colonialism?
I think the person getting colonized is Capt Pike.
🤑If I had won the billion-dollar Powerball Jackpot, I would have bought a palace, made some friends who are women, and we would have body painted our bodies green full time to act sexy with our boyfriends; giggle!🤭
No need for a billion dollars, just a couple of pints of Orion Green acrylic paint and plastic vines from Hobby Lobby and your boyfriend would think he was a starship captain.
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❤️ Giggle!!!❤️