Lurssen PV 80 offshore patrol vessel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2016
- The Lurssen PV 80 is one of three OPV designs currently under consideration for the Royal Australian Navy's Sea 1180 project. See the story in the June 2017 of DTR: defencetechnologyreview.realvi...
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The Opv80 was designed for the Bofors 57mm but the bofors 40mm is also suitable if not preferable because of better anti aircraft capability.
Plus my idea of splitting one harpoon launcher in half so they fit is pretty cool.
The cost is also for through life sustainability.
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A luxury yacht with some weapons.
Make our OPV more heavily armed. They all don't need a helicopter hanger. Move the front main gun forward put a 76mm high velocity gun instead off the 57mm. And put a 11 cell RIM-116 searam missiles system on the front behind the main gun. Put 2x2 anti ship missiles in the middle off the boat. Raise the helicopter hanger and Put 12 sea captor missiles there instead and a decoy system.And put 2x2 torpedoes tubes at the side lower deck. And have a CIWS close in weapon system at the back. have half of the OPV built for original purpose with the helicopter hanger and the other half as a attack class OPV. Start heavily arming our ships Australia. Our navy is small enough. We need to bring the firepower when it matters.
it looks like a support ship for the patrol fleet.
This ship is in Service with the Royal Brunei Navy
Under powered, under armed. Isn’t that called a sitting duck!
Do you think it's a war ship ?
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It couldn't even take on a well equipped smuggler ship.
Vessels of this class can be/are equipped with various cannons up to 57mm and Exocet Anti-Ship missiles.
@@garwhittaker3743 ...when you are at war and the enemy sees you....YES, and you had better be able to defend yourself....just because you make a ship for patrol only does'nt mean an adversary gives a hoot....
Dear DoD and RAN, I see room for an 8 cell Mark 41 VLS and 2 Quad Harpoon launchers. A slight adjustment and a 57mm Bofors gun mount forward of the VLS should be possible and then you have a corvette almost as well armed as an Anzac Frigate. Do it. You need it. If you want patrol boats create a Coast Guard. The OPV is a waste of a platform and a size overkill for the pissy role it’s currently being assigned.
Can you see room for a CEAFAR 2 Radar, CEAMOUNT illuminatersl, Sea Giraffe Target indication Radar all of which you will need to be able to fire a ESSM or a Harpoon, You put all that on a 80m Hull as well as the MK 41, Harpoon Launchers and bigger gun and you are going to create top weight issues and you would have to waste the Flight Deck to fit it all.
The Anzacs are 40m longer, over twice the displacement and they can’t even be fitted with a Phalanx due to top weight issues. Corvettes are useless to Australia as you cannot get all the weapons,, sensors and CMS and give them anywhere near enough Range to be of any use.
Do you know why we have to replace the Armidale class 10-15 years early?
Because they are worn out from the Navy having to use them as Offshore Patrol Vessels when in reality they are only Coastal Patrol Vessels. Its taken 50odd years but the lesson has finally learnt the lesson having an Attack class PB destroyed in harbour during a cyclone should have taught us.
We need large Patrol Vessels with Aviation capabilities due to the sheer distances involved not pissy little tinnies we have been using.
Use your brain will ya, if they went to that much trouble they may as well build a frigate or a destroyer, its purpose is border protection not to fight ww3, our other ships will do that.
mick Warnie I see a flight deck for taking Romeo Seahawk helicopters. The only other ships in the RAN with flight decks are frigates and destroyers. Making the Arafura a “light frigate” could save costs on hulls while maintaining similar punch to the Anzac frigates. Talking of WW3, chinese navy has a vessel off the coast of WA mapping the Indian ocean sea floor, which will come in handy when they deploy submarines to Exmouth. That enough brain power for you chief?
Mick C Extend the hulls another ten meters and place the missiles forward of the flight deck. Really the Navy shouldn’t be filling the role of a coast guard. I think we should take a leaf out of the US’s book in this case. Let the Navy be all about warfare and let a coast guard deal with illegal immigration and foreign vessels fishing inside the eez.
@@wattlebough your off your rocker
They look as well built and beautiful as some of the private yachts Lurssen has built. They really should be powered up a bit though, if 22 knots is accurate, it's too slow in my opinion.
They are more than fast enough for constable duties as a OPV. They are not little warships, corvettes which cost a whole lot more than a OPV...
I'm concerned " offshore " is not high seas. Australia needs high seas boats/ships not a Baltic sea boat
As if a few more frigates would defend Australia better from a Chinese invasion.... NOT.... The simple truth is Australia also requires OPVs too, as using frigates to patrol the EEZ, the fishing grounds, is a expensive overkill.... And yes, the largest culprit overfishing everyone's fishing grounds .s CHINA. Look, they have even decided to claim the entire South China Sea. The woeful Argentine navy sunk a Chinese trawler fighting in the South Atlantic in their fishing grounds that didn't heave to....
Pacific ocean has the roughest seas on earth, fast ships are shit in Pacific ocean...
I don'y think we have the naval power to stop them. Our new subs are years away
Imagine what Australia could have done if they had purchased the updated Visby in stead? The Aus Navy haven”t purchased a true and proper patrol craft since WW11. They are a waste of money. The Govs first priority was crew comfort followed by capacity to supply aide. I think defence in anyway started about no 5 or 6.
80 meters is already a ship to be well armed. It becomes of great value to enemies. A CIWS is missing.
Wayne Haile it’s a patrol vessel (counter terrorism/piracy, anti-people smugglers), its not intended for frontline combatants. Though I will say a CIWS (SeaRam multi role missle) would be a huge benefit and for $2m including install not a huge cost as they are an independent system that dosnt need networking its basically plug and play.
@@urmumisaho69 It should really be an Australian Border Force Vessel then and the Government should be building some proper corvettes for the RAN instead.
@@urmumisaho69 They should make half off our OPV more heavily armed. They all don't need a helicopter hanger. Move the front main gun forward put a 76mm high velocity gun instead off the 57mm. And put a 11 cell RIM-116 searam missiles system on the front behind the main gun. I think a 21 cell would be to heavy for this size boat but a 11 cell would work nicely and easily reloaded out at sea too. They should also Put 2x2 light weight anti ship missiles in the middle off the boat. Raise half off the helicopter hanger and Put 12 sea captor missiles VLS cells in there and leave room underneath for the speed boat. and put a decoy system at the back along with a CIWS close in weapon system. And put 1x2 torpedoes tubes on each side off the lower back deck for anti submarine warfare.
have half of the OPV built for original purpose with the helicopter hanger and the other half decked out as a attack class OPV.
The navy is supposed to be our front line off defence we will only have 9 hunter class 3 air warfare destroyers and 10 Arafura-class OPV 6 collins class submarine by 2030s and still be waiting for the 12 barracuda class attack submarines get built. Even if it's only 5 heavily armed OPV out off the 10 built. It would make a difference for our navy. Especially when we do have some off our ships deployed overseas. I think you forget China have 700 warships mate. Having small heavily armed OPV could relieve some stress on coverage for our larger ships and air force. And can bring a little bit more security when our larger ships do get deployed. A OPV can knock out a few big ships and submarine if armed right with the right tools.
@@carisi2k11 I agree with that 100% Australia should have atleast 12 heavily armed Corvettes minimum for a OPV. Or heavily arm our Arafura-class. Theirs no point having lightly armed OPV in the times we now living in. Lightly armed OPV is a waist off time and personal for our navy. With only 9 large frigates when built and 3 air force destroyers and 6 collins class submarine till 2040s. It isn't enough to cover our geographical area even with our air force that don't even have long range bombers. When our ships deployed overseas. We left with a large undefended area.. humanitarian relief and iligal refugee piracy and terrorism is a job for border force and police not for RAN. RAN needs to be more heavily armed to protect Australia sovereignty from broader threats if and when it matters. Even the UK they have sevral types from destroyers the Type 45. Type 26 frigates and Type 31E corvette.and they have much less coverage to protect too. Australia seems to go for lightly armed vessels will be our downfall if a war breaks out in the pacific. A heavily armed OPV can do a lot off damage and can defend if armed correctly. I can't see how the Arafura class OPV will serve our navy interest if they too lightly armed..it's just a waist off RAN personal, that couldn't do squat to help the others if and when it matters. 10 useless large boats that would have to run if had a face off with a heavily armed ship
@@urmumisaho69 I am sure PLA Maritime will agree with u but still put two torpedoes through its hull.
We got 4 of this beauty in our waters now
These could work great to replace the Holzinger, Uribe and Valle classes in the Mexican Navy.
Look Superb
that brunei naval darussalam class
OZZY OPV constructions already begun so yeah nice
A simple coastal ship should not cost $ 250 million each. For this price it is to defend the country as well. Malta bought from Fincantieri a great OPV for only € 35 million.
it may include price of out of warranty servicing
Alan B'Stard M P nope, my neighbour is a RAN vet and works at BAE Australia and he says they can’t believe the over priced lemon we purchased apparently “I don’t know myself” he says no one in uniform want the garbage
How much does it cost approximately? 🤔
Looks like a nice little corvette, but how does it compare to the ONSHORE patrol vessel version?
Sturgeon's Law try google “Brunei Navy Ijtihad class vessel” thats their onshore/inshore
awesome
the Fassmer gets nearly twice the endurance. So why this? Oz is buying defence hardware to keep Chris Pyne the minister in office, however, he's announced his retirement anyway
Nice Coast Guard Ship
when will it be operational and is it used only in defence only and if so how hard is it to drive a big cruiser like this and also whats it like to go through the process to being allowed on board even if you are police or navy. whats the computer testing like these days changed much since 2012?
Its purpose is to blow the likes of pirates out of the water.
it,s a pitty that 3.5 bill can be spent on a german boat that was deigned to go arround a lake at max speed of 22 knots
Only a 25mm bushmaster for weaponry. Think the 40mm Bofors will be a better armament for this type of vessel?
I believe it is actually meant to be equipped with a 40mm autocannon of some type.
It´s a boat for coast guards.
A.R.T. If the strategic environment deteriorates in the next few years they may have to be modified substantially- including the 40mm canon, as well as anti submarine capability, CIWS, Sea Sparrow Missiles - and I would even throw in the Norwegian ASMs. ( as they are they’re sitting ducks! )
A.R.T they will be fitted with a 40mm the video is a bit inaccurate. All the weapon systems are specified on the Australian navy website
This is just for training the cadets. 3 more similar class mounts 40mm bofors.
The OPV-80 FASSMER it's Best .The Navy to Chile and Colombia it's Hit ¡¡¡
Wayne Haile Australia’s have a 40mm. Still a $2million SeaRam CIWS would have been nice seeing how everyone seems to be slinging RPG/7.
Link to RAN version www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boats-craft/future/opv
@Wayne Haile El OPV-80 FASSMER GMB lleva 1 cañon de 40mm. in the two firts vessel and the two restart canon of 3" ( 76mm.) + four machine gun of calibre 12,7 mm.
P.D. : The OPV-80 LURSSEN is diferent to OPV-80 FASSMER and the two it's desing Deucht !!
¿ No era este modelo el que le quitaba el sueño al Comandante en Jefe de la AROU ? mmmmh soñarr no cuesta nada !!
Notice it mentioned nothing about weapons. Why ? Because it's nut less. Average police or coast guard ship has more power
Almost as poorly armed as the British River class
Yeah they need missiles and bigger guns to take care of them fish stocks ..
Ours are going to be up gunned.
River class batch 2 is far better armed. This thing here is so sad it didn't even mention weapons in this video
@@lunabranwen Well they didn't want to run the risk of offending anyone.
At least the ship is thare....nit like bousted naval shipyard malaysia...govrment of mlysia already pay 6 billion malaysia ringgit but nothing happen...ship missing and dnt know whare....very scarry
didn't see any reference to armament.....
It was the 1 pea shooter on the front deck. Look close it's really hard to see
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The ADF will know if the equipment they receive has been skimped upon because of politics. I urge the Government to do the right thing and build and supply the best and most suitable equipment for the task.
But what do we expect from uneducated old dinosaur's who only care about politics.
If Australia building 30 off these. Then why don't move the 57mm gun forward on the lower front deck. Put a 21 cell sea ram missiles system on it where the main gun is now. Put 4 anti ship missiles in the middle of the ship. Put 2x2 torpedoe tube launcher on the sides off the back lower deck. Raise the middle off the helicopter hanger and put a 8 cell VLS for quad packed ESSM evolved sea sparrow missiles in the middle off the helicopter hanger and put a 2x 20mm guns on each side off that. And put a CIWS close in weapon system on the back.. have 20 off the OPV configured out like this for heavily armed attack class OPV, And have another 10 with the normal hanger for helicopter. Have them patrol in 3 units. 2x heavily armed attack class, and 1 with a helicopter. That would bring 10 patrol units x3 OPV. 20 attacks class and 10 with helicopter hanger. total off 30 OPV. Not all these OPV need a to have a helicopter hanger. And most can fill a role as a heavily armed attack class OPV
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Upgrade speed and size of deck gun
If Australia building 30 off these. Then why don't move the 57mm gun forward on the lower front deck. Put a 21 cell sea ram missiles system on it where the main gun is now. Put 4 anti ship missiles in the middle of the ship. Put 2x2 torpedoe tube launcher on the sides off the back lower deck. Raise the middle off the helicopter hanger and put a 8 cell VLS for quad packed ESSM evolved sea sparrow missiles in the middle off the helicopter hanger and put a 2x 20mm guns on each side off that. And put a CIWS close in weapon system on the back.. have 20 off the OPV configured out like this for heavily armed attack class OPV, And have another 10 with the normal hanger for helicopter. Have them patrol in 3 units. 2x heavily armed attack class, and 1 with a helicopter. That would bring 10 patrol units x3 OPV. 20 attacks class and 10 with helicopter hanger. total off 30 OPV. Not all these OPV need a to have a helicopter hanger. And most can fill a role as a heavily armed attack class OPV
Ok for anti border control
Not enough dry spaces for"Migrants" in this Taxi Fleet Vessel
All the same these style of ships - nothing new with any of them. Heavy but gimmicky MG forward, couple of LMG's midships and a helideck / rigid raider launched out the stern ramp like some stearn trawler - good for scaring pirates but otherwise. . . . . .
Too slow and
under-armed.
RAN is pretty lame with these OPVs. This ship is too large for its underwhelming armament which I hope will not be a solitary bushmaster machine canon but at very worst a 40 mm BAE auto canon with 3P shells. These are what was meant to be fitted and have some reasonable antiaircraft ability and airburst shells for defence against swarm attack. Suggestions of VLS are poorly considered as that would require CEAFAR or Aegis radar and systems which are suitable for larger ships, but the vessels could have quad packed Harpoon Antiship missiles or some kind of containerised modular naval strike missile system. RAN leadership is void of any forethought and should have gone with 95m BAE OPV. These are larger and there’s more space for helicopter landing as well as armament and some have been fitted out as capable corvettes as seen by three vessels originally built for Brunei but now in service with the Indonesian forces as corvettes with 76mm main gun, Antiship missiles, torpedo launchers, two 30 mm canon, Sea wolf missile and flight deck. The vessel is an OPV but comparable to a small frigate in armament and has 30 knots speed. This all increases crew size but even if we just had a decent 40 mm BAE canon and antiship missiles it’s got to give these OPVs a bit more of flexibility than these expensive and under-armed constabulary vessels. It’s about time the RAN stopped doing constabulary duties (other than anti piracy) and the Border Security was resourced to do it so our navy can focus on defence. We need vessels that have greater flexibility and genuine combat abilities
I regret that we dont have a sea! Maybe if we take Královec... So what. It was founded during and in honor of the crusade of our king Přemysl Otakar II. Besides, Kaliningrad is such lame name.