Ex-Mormon and Mormon High Priest get into a Spirited Conversation
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- Do not miss this video as Pastor Wade and former Mormon now Christian Jarred get into a Spirited Conversation with a Mormon High Priest.
Is Faith in Christ alone enough to save you or are there requirements to salvation that need to be followed?
Watch this video Ex-Mormon and Mormon High Priest get into a Spirited Conversation to find out!
This is terrific. I am an ex Mormon that had my name taken off the records. I have looked into Catholicism and other religions. I stumbled across Jeff Durbin on TH-cam. This led me to Apologia Utah. I am thinking once my broken leg heals, I might attend a service in South Jordan.
You are more than welcome. Praying your leg heals quickly.
Get well. I love Apologia church
Have you attended Christian services?
My husband is exmo and wanted nothing to do with church when we met. He finally came with me to fend off other guys. He really enjoyed it, the music, the less formal dress and most important he said he actually learned about the Bible. We’ve been married 27 years and he’s been Christian over 20.
Amen brother I just had my name removed two months ago. Just received my letter. A few days ago from records and attending a Baptist church which teaches the Bible in only the Bible. And actually has a three-year. Three classes on Monday night eight week quarter. College level Bible study course. Which is a little ahead of my capabilities but I like it and like the pastor said I can come and just listen record because they go so fast and been a GED 30 years plus ago. But I love it and I think you’ll love it too and I just love going to church. We have a Sunday meeting morning and we have a Sunday evening. And we actually have a Bible study and service on Wednesday evenings.. And most of the members go on the Wednesday night.
@@johnkauffman1191 my husband is exmo. He hated going to the LDS meetings but really liked going with me to a Christian church. It took time, but he accepted Jesus as his LORD and Savior almost 20 years ago.
I’m so happy that you are loving going to church and to Bible study. Praise God!
As a young Christian born again of the Grace of Christ by the Holy Spirit, brothers you guys have strengthened not only my faith but have given me more courage in Christ. God is glorified, and I give praise to God for you brothers🙏🏽✝️. Gets me excited to preach the gospel of Christ Jesus more every day, thanks be to God for you brothers. Thank you Jesus Christ.
The apostles and prophets were for the foundation of the church. The foundation was laid 2,000 years ago.
Jesus Christ is our living Prophet, Priest, and King!
When he said he traced his lineage back to Adam and Eve I almost spout out my food 😂😂😂
I use to be an LDS member about 20 years ago and everything you pointed out is exactly what always came to me while a member. I always felt that so much of the church literally contradicts the word of God and always disregarded actual facts for "feelings". I always asked to please explain why the BOM contradicted the Bible. The response was always, "it's a feeling that the church is true". That use to make me so upset. As a new member, it didn't take long for me to see that the LDS "church" lives in ignorance and disdain for the actual truth. I really appreciate how knowledgeable you are and how you are answering the questions no one in the church wanted to give me. When I expressed my doubts because prayer was telling me Joseph Smith is definitely not a prophet, I was told I lacked faith. I left and never looked back.
Congratulations on leaving I was Mormon not long like you were still I left never looked back to the Lds church is nothing but deception breaks my heart many members like this man are listening and believing the lies that there getting fed all the time.
Amen Cheryl!
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If the "truth" is so factual and apparent (which can sort of be an oxymoron - when applied to faith) then why do all these "biblical facts" lead to thousands of different churches? (Logically it should lead to one, and if so which one?) As Jesus taught "One faith, One people, One baptism" One religion. However Religion or faith is much more than words in a book, or numbers, or even historical places) Its philosophy, teachings, love and the practice of those beliefs to make us better (and more centered around Christ) The tools are second to the Teacher! (which is Jesus) which sometimes people forget. (The "Spirit of the Law" trumps the "Letter) evertime!
Hey Bro. Wade! Praying for you and the church in Utah. Your faithfulness blesses me. Apologia in Utah has really taken off, Glory to God.
How sad that this man does not realize how much pride he has in his heart, thinking of himself as a “high priest of God.” He uses the name of God as the authority, to exhort you to believe in Joseph Smith’s teachings while ignoring everything he and Young taught that contradicts God’s previous revelations in both Testaments.
I find many LDS don't know the doctrine, history or current teachings of the church. That is part of the problem. This guy won't even take a tract from the preacher. What happened to Hinckley's statement that we are to learn from other religions?
@@scottbrandon6244 Honestly, I find your comment to more accurately applied to non-LDS Christians, who like Calvinists, are unaware of how abominable their doctrines around salvation are, and how scanty the residents of heaven there will be based on the theology they unknowingly affirm.
@@bobvukich25 Uhhhh, no.
@@bobvukich25 they're extreme abominable views for families is damnation
Brainwashing is a hell of a mind trip.@@scottbrandon6244
Well done, gents. I know how difficult it is to get a member to talk beyond their testimony when they’re cornered by the truth.
Truly gods warriors preaching in Mormon territory god bless you 🙏
I love what you guys are doing! I have been following Apologia for about a year. I do disagree with some points in your theology. I am a charismatic and non reformed but I absolutely love how you present the Gospel. Keep it up!
This was an absolutely beautiful dialogue. Great job boys.
That Joseph Smith fellow sounded alot like the serpent in the garden of Eden.
And Muhammad
Something really creepy/phony about his voice.
He sounds brainwashed
I think the thumbnail should have read “Pompous Evangelicals called to repentance” Thanks for posting this anyways! I appreciate the integrity in the content making.
My brother in law struggled for a long time before he left the church. It was devastating for him but he is doing okay now. So if you are watching these videos contemplating of you are going to be okay if you leave the answer is yes.
how can i get in contact w you guys ? I am LDS
you can send us an email at contact@apologiautah.com
I love how wade and Andrew always go back to the bible to the point.
I like to ask Mormons to tell me the gospel. If I was dying and had like 5 minutes left how can I be saved? I’d like to see a debate with the BYU theologians. But then again I feel I might have to repent for listening to such blasphemy. I don’t know. There is a serious mind and heart change the Mormons need. To see the light. Not a counterfeit light. Our call is to deliver the gospel of God onto salvation to them.
You asked how you can be saved according to the Mormon gospel. I will answer this question for you. But first, I think it's important to define salvation and how that differs from exaltation. Salvation is to live in an immortal resurrected body in a degree of Heaven. The lowest degree of Heaven is the Telestial Kingdom. D&C 76 says this about those who are in that kingdom. "But behold, and lo, we saw the glory and the inhabitants of the telestial world, that they were as innumerable as the stars in the firmament of heaven, or as the sand upon the seashore;
110 And heard the voice of the Lord saying: These all shall bow the knee, and every tongue shall confess to him who sits upon the throne forever and ever;".
So, according to the D&C, all someone has to do to gain salvation is accept and confess to Christ. Exaltation, however, is to be able to become a God yourself. In order to do that, one must make all the necessary covenants with God through the proper priesthood authority and then keep them.
@@supervegeta1833 I appreciate your comment but it’s super super blasphemous and God calls you to repentance for your idolatry and blasphemy and witchcraft just to name a few. Turn from Mormonism and put your faith in Christ Jesus ( your God and creator) faith in him alone for salvation. Salvation is being saved and that means not perishing in Hell. Salvation is in Heaven with God which you will not see if you do not repent. You and everyone else will never become a God. God has been and always will be the one and only God. He was not a creation that became a God. Read the Bible and throw away the BoM. Your salvation eternal life is not a joke or a game or something to gamble on by some guy in the 19th century New York. Please I beg you to read the Bible especially Romans, Galatians, Ephesians to start at least and repent of your sins including Mormonism and turn to Christ alone.
@@AlexanderTate. I have quite a few questions for you. Why didn’t God just create us all in Heaven in the first place? Why come to Earth to grow if we’re just going to be singing praises to God for eternity anyway? Why didn’t God only create those He knew would obey Him so nobody ended up suffering in Hell? Did God create all the rules that govern eternity? If so, could God create a rule that anyone who breaks a rule can be forgiven if they are sincerely sorry and change? If so, why was Jesus’s sacrifice necessary? What happens to all those who died without ever hearing about Jesus Christ in their lifetime and having a chance to repent of their sins through Him? Why did God create marriage in the first place if it’s just going to cease to exist after this life anyway? Please, I’d like to hear your answer to any or all of these questions.
@@supervegeta1833 Questions answered one by one... If you truly seek, read the Word/Bible.
Why didn't God just create us all in Heaven in the first place?
We were created to inhabit and populate the Earth for the glory and pleasure of God/LORD/Yahweh. We were created on the Earth and given the breath of life on the Earth and a spirit to those who walk on the Earth. We were given dominion over the animals and were told to replenish and subdue the rest of creation. In essence, we were created to be caretakers of God's creation.
Isaiah 45:18 KJV
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Revelation 4:11
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Genesis 1:26-28
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let him have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Isaiah 42:5
Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
@@supervegeta1833
Why come to Earth to grow if we're just going to be singing praises to God for eternity anyway?
So much wrong with this question.
First, we don't come to the earth to grow. Adam and Eve were created on earth and they were tasked with multiplying and inhabiting the land. See previous question.
There is no concept in the Bible of a pre-existence where God has sexual intercourse with a "Heavenly Mother" or "goddess wives" to create spiritual children that choose to enter bodies on earth.
The Bible says that God is a spirit not a man...though he is all-powerful and can manifest himself in many forms...burning bush, human man, dove, cloud, fire, etc... God has no need to have sexual intercourse to create spiritual children or a human body. God created through his Word, breathed life into Adam, the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary so she could conceive the human body of Jesus (no sexual intercourse).
The Bible says that we must be saved and adopted into the New Covenant in order to become children of God and receive his Spirit, the Holy Spirit. But even given the privilege of calling God our Father does not make us dieties. We are only human beings, God's creation and will never be more than that though we are promised perfect, resurrected bodies like Jesus had after his resurrection if we are saved.
We are not children of God because God had sex to create our spirits. God warns his creation not to worship the creation or envision God or gods in the form of man or beast. That is idolatry, and it is blasphemy to elevate ourselves to the level of God.
Jesus was crucified by the Jews for blasphemy because he claimed to be God, but he was innocent of the crime because he WAS GOD. Jesus is the only way that God reveals himself to us since God is spirit. Jesus took on a human body and was fully God/spirit and fully man/body in order to reveal who God is through his teaching and earthly example. Jesus is how God makes himself known to us. He is God's Word.
All members of the Trinity/Godhead/one God are spirit and share equally in the essence of that spirit which is God. We believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit have always existed with the Father without beginning or end. The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were never created and can never die or be destroyed. When Jesus died on the cross, his human body died but his divine spirit/essence did not die because God can not die.
Ephesians 1:5
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Galatians 4:3-7
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 1:30-35
And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:BEFORE ME there was NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER shall there be AFTER ME.
Galatians 3:20
Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Job 9:32
For he [God] is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.
Romans 1:20-23
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Exodus 33:20-23
And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall NO MAN SEE ME, AND LIVE. And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while MY GLORY passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Matthew 26:63-65
But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.
Mark 2:5-7
When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
John 1:1-5,14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not...
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Apologia, Blessings to you in Jesus name. I am grateful for your effects to awaken the blinded Mormons. My family are among them. 💔🙏
I am a single, disabled, Born Again, senior, female. Our building manager is a very devout LDS Elder, and yet, he entered my apartment when I was alone, and wasn't even suppose to be here. He stayed for 7 hours straight, until 12:03am, just rambling on and on about his narcissistic self. I was too embarrassed to ask him to leave. The gossip about other tenants, and s*exual things he talked about would make you sick. And this was an ELDER?? He was forbidden to ever communicate with me again, although he still tries, but it just goes to show what really goes on within this church. But he walks around with his chest puffed out, like he's a true man of God.
That’s sickening I’m so sorry
@jakepayne8522 Thank you. My heart is breaking, because now he is taking advantage of a VERY elderly and naive woman in our building. He's got Mormon's coming to her house every day to "convert" her, and of course she did, because she doesn't know any better. He has also introduced her to Bitcoin (for commission), which he tried to do to me as well, but I wasn't having either one of those things. He actually takes this poor old woman to the bar up the road. Not meaning to gossip. It just has me in tears, because I can't stop him.
@@Lacey_Butterflies You can pray to God for protection and for protection of that woman. You can always pray to God, he works miracles every day!
@@jakepayne8522 Oh, yes! Of course He does. Believe me, I've been praying daily for her and trusting that God will step in. ❤️
Honestly, I see no contradiction at all in us having a choice, and God still knowing all things.. If you were to travel in the future, you would also know all things, and yet, people would still make up their own choices..
I actually do love this kind and humble LDS guy... he has a great spirit about him..
The royal priesthood of Christian believers has always been here.
Are you a Catholic? This statement only makes sense if you are Catholic. If not what was the Protestant Reformation?
@@robertrussell7468 I am reformed. Read your bible.
@@christinerosenquist7657 help me understand. Why did we need a reformation if there has always been true Christian believers?
@@robertrussell7468 There has indeed always been true Christian believers. That is WHY there were several people even before Luther that spoke out against heresy and there was also a reformation because of it
In addition the suggestion that you read the bible, a good book on world history would do you some good, before asking me questions in a youtube comment post. And no, I am not interested in having private conversations with you. If you have questions, it is more appropriate that you contact the Apologia Church. There are Pastors and Men able to talk to you. Have a nice day dear.
Hint: read the New Testament to find the Christian Doctrine, and the Royal Priesthood of Christian believers.
Also, Luther started the "reformed catholicism " "pro-testant" of the heresy in the Roman Church. Then after some time, we became "reformed". Now does that make sense to you?
@@christinerosenquist7657 wow I really poked the bear didn’t I. I can promise you that I will continue to read the Bible. Have a nice day.
This is awesome!! Keep it up. Can I come out and witness with you?
Go to out website www.apologiautah.com and get in touch with us. Blessings to you!
Where could i get some of those tracks you hand out? I would like to go out to preach and have those with me to hand out.
shop.apologiastudios.com/products/the-gospel-for-mormons
I have great respect for this man for having dialog and talking through the differences. I pray he finds his way to the Jesus of the bible. Before its to late.
The things he said are the basic principles of the Gospel had no mention of Jesus Christ. This man is the prime example for the reasons Christians contend for the faith. We know Jesus and we talk of Jesus, we preach of Jesus so that our children may know who to look to for a redemption of their sins. Evangelicals are doing what even their book says to do.
"We talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins." --2 Nephi 25:26, Book of Mormon
Mormon High Priest: "I'm firm in my testimony."
Me: "Clearly not firm enough to withstand the reading of a wee pamphlet."
Praying for this man he is so lost and blind he is trusting false prophets Mormonism is false period.
How do you know ?
His conscience is seared...
That Mormon accent! Lord, it sounds just like Warren Jeffs.
It does sound super general conference creepy.
Apologia think it’s sacrilege to believe that Jesus and lucifer were brothers before lucifer fell and became the devil but are perfectly ok with Jesus creating the devil.
Oof, around 31minutes you get really worked up. I understand. I'd be right there with you. I'd council this to be something to work on, unwavering patience.
Faith is in the belief of what you can't see, not in spite of what you can.
Why does the guy in the street have the creepy conference voice?
Zombies Mormons
because he cult follower creeoy voices is dead giveaway. Tonal is sign cult
He’s not a charismatic or theatrical. So what
It's programming.
They are aggressive, wrong and are becoming a little scary, while he keeps his cool
Amazing he got a testimony just in time that he could go on a mission. Just like Joseph Smith's revelations always seemed to be perfectly timed to bail him out of his many messes.
At least he has correct grammar: Daylight saving… NO ‘S’
Oh wow, that was lovely to hear he traced his line back to Adam. This is the second person I ever heard of. I remember being baptised for a viking years ago and how that captured my attention that someone has traced their roots that way back.
If a claimed profit makes even one inaccurate prediction, he is not a profit, according to the bible.
*prophet
@fernandez3841 the bottom feeder of discussion, the typo checker.
you mean lds are for profits,fundage,monies. Have no prophets never have lds lame
Prophet not profit
@@AdamEyers see above douche.
This one is obstinate. Wow. Talks over these guys and doesn’t leave much room for actual discussion.
I can see the arrogance in that Mormon's face. Look at his puffed up posture.
Uh. He was waiting for his own church stake conference. These guys who are strangers, with a camera, come at him with a script that is already set, to set up an unsuspecting, LDS Christian, minding their own business.
He was on the defense, Sir. These guys came up like salesmen, and bugged him, came out with their camera, tell him his beliefs are false, while he was peacefully waiting for his own church conference to start. He might’ve even needed to enjoy that time to pray or have some quiet time that Sunday morning.
I would not even let people like that bug me and attack my beliefs in the middle of my peaceful morning walk. He was much more gracious than I would’ve been. Shame on them.
Oh, and please do know that Apologia edit their videos, and only choose the videos. That makes them look good and try to make other Christian denominations bad.
Apologia say that the New Testament says that all believers are the priesthood, the Bible says Hebrews 5:4-6.
I've always wondered what Jesus meant by "fulfill all righteousness". Mormons quote these words as if their meaning were self-evident, which it is not. (At least not to me!) But I don't see how the statement is equivalent to "inauguration of his earthly mission" either.
Nice man but sounds robotic and gullible really...very niave but very humble man
This guy sounds like a Stepford man
"There's no doubt in my mind that Joseph Smith was a prophet".....well you should have doubt cause he is not a prophet based on Scripture and proper understanding of the gospel.
he just locks into his memorized narrative and when it gets challenged, he gets angry.
LDS should just except if they don't want they not read it .I did get the Mormons book but still stick to the bible.Respect your work brother.Godbless you..
Daniel 9 also states that prophecy would be sealed upon the arrival of Messiah
Former member... couldn't care less about taking my name off the records...
Feelings override the written word and factual history?
So sad. Mormon zombie.
Leave it to the LDS to try and help God with His job.😢
I love how these people that interrogate and put down the lDS (and other faiths) Say "they know" that prophets are false, but have no "proof" Yet when LDS say they know the truth is true from the spirit, they "gaslight" them saying its not logical (or you can't trust your feelings). Its sorta a double standard! (sadly). Thats why men's opinions are dwarfed in understanding by truth, the spirit of god, and the holy ghost.
This is like watching someone arguing the tooth fairy and Santa are real. You’re both wrong.
Hebrews 5:4-5
And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. So also Christ glorified not himself to be made a high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.' - Hebrews 5.
You mentioned that your authority comes from reading the Bible. I am curious to know who gave you the authority to call this Mormon to repentance? It is important to note that Aaron was ordained to the Priesthood by Mosesand Jesus received his Priesthood from His Father.
The Book of Mormon too is God “breathed” brother.
He isn’t following Christ. But your hatred,to many groups, here also directly disobeys Christ. Your hatred and disinformation pushes people away from Christianity!
Apologia quote Isaiah 43:10 again whilst ignoring other scriptures in the Bible such as; Deuteronomy 10:17, Joshua 22:22, Psalms 82:1, Psalms 82:6, Psalms 136:2, Daniel 11:36, Matthew 5:48, John 10:34, Acts 17:29, Romans 8:17, 2 Corinthians 3:18, Galatians 4:7, Ephesians 4:13, Philippians 2:5,6, 1 John 3:2, Revelation 3:21.
Im lucky i belong to the true church the church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints...i believe in the plan of salvation l.
It is easily evident that Apologia’s teachings refute the word of God. Galatians 1:8.
So god is out of control and all his apostles died out and left the church without leadership? I bet God must have been biting his fingernails.....that is ridiculous. My God is sovereign and in control!
We mean no "dirrespect" (enjoy your meeting now, even though you aren't going to heaven) Lol! (Wow, imagine if LDS missionaries told these evangelicals before their meeting the same thing) and then said "no disrespect" (lol).
What a great Latter Day Saint brother having to defend himself against the Apologia ministers who came looking for a fight.
They contend for the faith as the Bible says to do. Mormons send their missionaries all over the world to do the same thing.
@@courtneyko1466 Yes but Mormon missionaries don’t go out of their way to intentionally contend with people. This a big difference in defending yourself when attacked and being someone who goes out looking to attack. What’s more insidious is Apologia attacking others whilst telling them “I’m doing this because I really love you.”
@@AdamEyers that's because Mormons essentially practice universalism. They don't believe their message will save anyone from hell. On the other hand, protestant Christians have a mission, not to make people happier or more joyful or a forever family, but to pull people from going to hell who believe in a different Gospel. If you saw an old lady about to get hit by a bus you would act differently in saving them rather than if it were a slow moving bicycle heading for them. There is a desperate sense of urgency to preach to Mormons because they believe in a false Gospel that doesn't save. Jude 1:20-23 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And on some have compassion, [j]making a distinction; 23 but others save [k]with fear, pulling them out of the [l]fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.
The book of Jude plainly commands us to contend for the faith. Secondly, no one forced him to respond to them or stick around for the conversation. He's not a victim. He could've walked away at any time. In fairness, I don't necessarily agree with their tactics and their methods, but to claim that he was a victim being attacked is disingenuous.
@@travisclouse3614 Yeah but the book of Jude is telling Christians to contend for the faith with certain men that had crept in unawares and would have subtly been corrupting true doctrine from within. Latter Day Saints don’t creep in unawares to Apologia congregations to do that but Apologia actively seek out members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to contend with them. That’s far from the basis of Paul’s admonition in Jude. He held his own when they came at him in this quite unChristlike way.
How come Mormons never bring up who wrote and composed the New Testament? The Eastern Orthodox Church.
Apologia tells us that since Jesus there have been no more prophets. The bible says Acts 13:1, Acts 15:32, Acts 21:10, 1 Corinthians 12:28, Ephesians 2:19,20, Ephesians 3:5, Ephesians 4:11-13.
Some, can't leave THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS due to the extreme lack of knowledge & rebelliousness.
"Honestly, I see no contradiction at all in us having a choice, and God still knowing all things.. If you were to travel in the future, you would also know all things, and yet, people would still have made up their own choices"
Exactly. It's so simple a child can understand it. Yet these two so-called Christian adults see a problem with it. In fact, thats an immediate flunk of a philosophy 101 class.
And the Mormon raises really good point in that these two men actually don't have any authority they just take it upon themselves because they think they have the correct interpretation of scripture. Absolutely anyone can say that.
This. Talk to the leaders that spew lies. Not just the lay people.
The lay people are more apt to leave the false religion because they are less corrupted by deception.
russell a prophet maybe he means for profit
Hohohoho! So clever
Mattias replaced Judas Iscariot to complete the 12 apostles. That was after Jesus's resurrection. Ephesisn 2: 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone; That is the model. You said God doesn't change right?
bearing false witness is Lds testabaloney
Not funny but 😂 😂 😂
The moment you know this is just nonsense vs. nonsense: The way this gentleman reacts to satan supposedly being a "creature" just after 27:00 .
Feelings trump objective facts and evidence.
That verse you provided in 20:30 doesn't support that there are no more prophets. But I get what you're saying
Daniel 9:24 says, "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy"¹. This verse is part of a prophecy given by the angel Gabriel to Daniel about the future of Israel and the coming of the Messiah¹. The verse states that seventy weeks are determined for God's people and the holy city, Jerusalem, to accomplish six goals¹:
1. To finish the transgression
2. To make an end of sins
3. To make reconciliation for iniquity
4. To bring in everlasting righteousness
5. To seal up the vision and prophecy
6. To anoint the most holy place (or the most Holy One)
The math has been done and confirmed that the 69 weeks were up to the start of Jesus ministry. The midst of the 70th week(Read on to verse 27) Jesus died on the cross fulfilling this prophecy. This is all true for the Christian though we still live in the flesh. Note #5. After the last book written by John the vision and prophecy were sealed up. Heb. 1 goes hand in hand with this. O.T. prophets, N.T. age ->Listen to Jesus.
Apologia are so ignorant of what the gospel of Jesus Christ is by claiming that any work requirement is not a part of the gospel. The bible says Matthew 19:17, Matthew 25, James 2:24.
I’ve never seen anyone so brainwashed
Apologia admit that they rely on “the written word” and not the Spirit. The bible says 1 Corinthians 12:3.
Ephesians 4:11 is where God will add to the church some apostles ect.
So sad that people like this just try to justify their belief in lies. JS was into the occult, & his “ revelations” was for him…a way to change the rules!
And thinking Jesus is lucifer’s brother is absolutely disgusting!! And they think God has a wife or wives. 🤮
Sorry Dude's... But this Mormon Brother did a better job at staying full of love... Uncording to Jesus words to Love your neighbor as yourself. You two Christians became full of contention. That to me is a test of the spirit.. Regardless as what this Mormon Brothers believes. He is a great human being and so why would you want to change him?
To pray God opens his eyes to to truth and leads him away from false prophets and to believe Gods word with his whole heart and not believe the Bible is corrupted and has anything missing
Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.
@@jeremynethercutt206 Did not God say "Thou shalt not judge, for with what measure ye Judge, ye shall also be judged. Judge not that ye be not Judged."
@@jeremynethercutt206 How did Judith kill himself. In one place in the Bible it says he hung himself from a tree. In another place in the Bible it says he skew his blood on the ground. It's all about love ❤️ brother. Jesus says on these first two commandments hang the Prophets and all the law. Like the Beatles ssid. All we need is love....
It breaks my heart that these Mormons are so ignorant. They change the rules as they go. So so sad.
2 Thessilonies Chapter 2 verse number 3
I hope this man doesn't have any bones under his porch.
SMH. I feel sorry for Mormons. It’s difficult for them to understand the meanings of revelations and prophecy from a biblical perspective.
That man in the suit made the two motor mouths look amatuer......what a faith living high priest...he spoke truth..the other two...just wanted to entrap him and had the devils spirit of argumemtation...from New Zealand.
Yep they were getting heated up and sounded flustered, as he kept his calm
The man makes a really "good pointe" about the prophets that do different things in "different times" Like Noah, etc! (Its not because God changes, its because the "needs" of those people change or are unique) Example: Moses was sent to "Free" the Israelites out of Egypt. However a "modern day prophet" may need to focus on teaching about the dangers of social media, etc! (So again, the LDS gentleman made a "really" good point)! However the "ULTIMATE" Example is when Jesus was here! The Pharisees and Sadducees (very "learned") had ALL the Scriptures!!! (Yet they ignored the Author)! Lol - Jesus who is above "all writings" as he is the "living word". Remember the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath (its all about being in context and correct "order).
"Ex-Mormon and Mormon High Priest get into a Spirited Conversation", and Ex-Mormon gets owned.
How do we know that this man is truly a Mormon. First the cameraman. Doesn't have understand that Scots and welsh are British.
Wow lds are trolls
We’re people. We are surprised by these people’s gross aggressive.
And we are told we aren’t Christian all the time.
They do these videos on purpose. It’s sneaky and shady
Nah. This type of interactions are not Christlike. How can you think (on judgement day) Jesus will not show mercy for someone that doesn't see Jesus like you do? EVEN IF he sees Jesus as a tree. We are judged by our actions and our knowledge.
*Yet, Mormons claim their church is the one true church* and all Christians Churches are wrong, corrupt, and an abomination. Mormons claim everyone needs to join their church, pay them 10% of your total income, get a Temple Recommend from a Mormon bishop so you may participate in a Temple Endowment Rituals, perform baptism of the dead rituals, which includes, giving Masonic type handshakes, saying secret passwords, wearing underwear with sewn in Masonic symbols, and do much more. All so you possibly, maybe, perhaps, have eternal life becoming a Mormon polygamist exalted man god or a goddess wife.
Where as the Bible and Christian message is to have forgiveness of sin and God’s gift of eternal life in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is through faith and trust in Jesus Christ only and not through any church.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
“For the wages of sin is death; but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST our Lord” (Romans 6:23)
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is *the gift of God:* Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2: 8-9)
Jesus said, “…know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)
Do not let the Mormons make merchandise of you with their feign words.
Acts 2:38 is the salvation plan Jesus said you must be born of the water and the spirit...i appreciate what you guys are doing but you need to preach acts 2:38
Apologia are blind and ignorant concerning the gospel of Jesus Christ. As such they preach another gospel. Galatians 1:8.
This was a very interesting conversation. You two guys made yourself look foolish. The Mormon high priest… I find little fault with. His argument was much much better than yours. You two reminded me of the Pharisees... quoting scripture, but not understanding them… In fact, almost clueless.
You just kept accusing him with empty accusations… And that's what people do when they have no argument.
Watching Apologites trolling Christians on the streets is really creepy.
LDS are not Christians.
@@nightshade99 Ignorant and intolerant bigots are not Christian.
good try. But Mormons aren't Christians
Why do Mormons keep bugging me at my door? Hmmm?
Because you are a soul worth saving.
Apologia are so false and corrupt. They are earnest deceivers.
I am surprised that you think you called this high priest to repentance. This brother was guided by the sprit for direction to stand firm against this mockery of a video. I too ask you brethren if you took the challenge he gave you. From what you posted I see you have not. The truth shall set you free brethren as Paul said. No doubt, no confusion. Relying solely on past written work only and not receiving it from the Holy Ghost. You have this work from the Jews. If you didn't have those ordain prophets from the Jews then you would not even have the Bible which even then many precious things were taken out of it. Remember practices will change but doctoring will not.
I have read the Book of Mormon. Heavenly Father has revealed to me that it is false. It contradicts the Doctrine and Covenants, the Bible, and the later teachings of Joseph Smith. Christ revealed to me that I don't need to believe the Book of Mormon is true. I have a witness of the Holy Ghost.
God is more than able to preserve his word. The word of the Lord endures forever. There will be no Book of Mormon in heaven.
There are 24,300 manuscripts of the New Testament alone in three different languages. If you know who went around the world and deleted or added anything, then you need to report it. This world wide news. The Bible is the best-selling book every year. Even the LDS church has it as part of their Quad.
It is the Book of Mormon that is missing 116 pages.
The spirit has not. Interesting the words you use is heavenly father. Those that have no pure testimony of the plan of salvation or everlasting covenant to our father which is in heaven. Do not believe in a father and mother in heaven that love us their children and want what they know is best for each one of us especially the plan of happiness to come here earn a mortal body due to we did not rebel with those fallen in the beginning. So this flesh would rise again as our saviors gift to us as the mediator for our Father's justice the mercy he has for his children. This is my testimony and if any false teachings draw me away from this it is not from our heavenly father or Christ my savior and is only founded on the mind and teachings of man and not from the testifier of truth the Holy Ghost for they are all one.
@@bruceterry2688 The false teachings of the LDS church lead me to eternal torment in outer darkness. I will not follow them.
I worship the true and living God. Unlike pagan gods, the true and living God is not married. God created Adam out of the dust of the ground and Eve out of Adam's rib, no wife needed!
If there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing, there would still be nothing. God is the first, uncaused cause of everything you see. No one created God.
God spoke the universe into existence from nothing, including the planet that the LDS Heavenly Father came from and the star Kolob that he lives near. God is eternal. (Psalm 90:2) God never had to work his way to Godhood. God has always been God.
Not everyone is a child of God.
I John 3:10
Christ told the Pharisees that they were of their father the devil because they refused to believe that he was God. (John 8) Christ said that their sins would not be forgiven and they would be condemned.
It is something we become.
John 1:12 But as many as receive him to them gave he power to become the sons of God.
The true and living God offers forgiveness of sins, salvation, eternal life, and exaltation for free if you are interested. That is how much God loves you! ❤️
Like the thief on the cross, all anyone needs to do is repent of their sins and put their faith in what Christ has already done for them. A broken and a contrite heart God will not despise.
I was never more confused in Mormonism. The Bible clears up all the confusion.
Not Christians at all
The response is so lifeless
I’m not Mormon, but it doesn’t say Jesus was the last prophet. The Bible says Agabus was a prophet in the New Testament which prophesied a famine that came to pass. Also Paul said there are prophets in the church.
Can I ask you where in the Bible, Paul says that?
You missed their point
Apologia Utah how can u go go up to a lds member of the church and condem him what's funny is how the " false prophesies " that u claimed that the homosexual persons many people were in their lds church n were cool epwith everybody yeah I get that people try to be polite if somebody was in the church that was gay or lesbian becuase you have 2 different point of views and they don't know the truth and grown man would say no I wouldent kiss another dude becuase it's wrong leviticus 18 22 and the bishops that's his fault becuase a bishop might not know all truth or he's just trying to be nice that doesent mean mormonism is false ! Polygamy in Joseph smith's time was different becuase people's mindsets were different as from then till now he married many wives becuase in that Era the men were dying and sick and alot of them couldent take care of their families so Joseph's mith asked permission to be with hem if u actually read his journey of discourses and other books etc . About when u said pristhod couldent be passe word was out sayingd to bla ks is wrong because in 1836 before when the word was out about blacks in 1852 to 1978 they the church saying about the blacks no priesthood I get that but in. 1836 2 black priest were ordained elijah abel and walker lewis so ur contradiction I wrong.