Thanks for the comment, and that's a really good way to put it. I always just think of them as sanitisers trying to remove or destroy anything that is remotely problematic to their world view.
We already have a faction for these types of people, it's Slaanesh. So, just because GW has been corrupted by Slaanesh, it doesn't mean I'm going to accept it as cannon and bend the knee. "Suffer not the Woke to live." "Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean." "Burn them with Holy Fire."
When i started reading this comment all i could think was this is heresy and the treatment is fire..... and then you crowned it off awesomely. I tip my hat good sir, and thanks for commenting.
This is something I've been explaining about Star Trek, Stargate and B5; real fans like because what it is like - that includes things that it is loved for, but also *loved despite*. That's why OUTSTANDING and well crafted Stargate Universe didn't catch up - it was strongly embedded and respectul to the lore; just too different tonnaly. Yeah, O'Neill's humor usually broke the tension and was Marvel-like (but smart....) - so WHAT? That's why EVERY SINGLE STAR TREK SERIES after TOS was picked apart by fandom - because in Star Trek fandom, debating technical / physical feasability or lack of thereof, pointing out incosnistencies is basically inherent part of being fan. If you make warp engines with exhaust or introduce grimdark to Star Trek - be prepared to defend this choice; you knew what you were doing...right? PS: It is not only on what has been done, but also HOW it has been handled.
Couldnt agree more. People look for consistency and when something doesnt fit within their idea of the consistency of that universe there needs to be rationale as to why that thing happens.... the How you handle the change. Would i have liked the change in 40k was it rational? Nope, id have thought it was done only for representation but i would have just grumbled and moved on. The problem was they basically just went, Suck It to the fans. I really liked Stargate Universe, the problem is.....it wasn't stargate. As you said the tone was massively different and they almost certainly had an inflated actor bill which meant that when it didn't do fantastically well it was always going to get axed. I just dislike never knowing whether Eli Lives or dies.
My husband has been ranting about this nonstop. He's so annoyed. And I, as a woman, do not care about representation. I want accurate lore, because it's there for a reason. It's the world building and the internal logic of the world.
Its all about the story...it's what allows you to immerse yourself in anything. And the destruction of stories for the sake of representation is why everything sucks at the moment. As for your husband, listen to chuck..... because he said it best..... unless of course your husband is a heteric then the emperor most certainly does not protect lol.
Here is the thing that the people opposing female Adeptus Custodes don't understand. For purposes of this issue: The lore doesn't matter. Your nostalgia doesn't matter. Existing female representation doesn't matter. There is only one thing that matters and when you understand it, you understand that female Custodes and Space Marines must exist. It is this; Custodes and Space Marines must be inclusive because they are described as being the best of the best of the human race. Whats more, Space Marines are the face of 40K. If you say women can't be a part of the best of the best, than you are saying women are inherently inferior to men. Thats the shameful 40 year old message they wrote into their lore. That message is not only untrue; it is abhorrent to any fair minded person. 40K has existed with this implicit statement as part of it's IP so far because it is not even a blip on the average person's radar. But things are changing. Games Workshop and Warhammer 40k are entering larger spheres. They must fix this problem in the lore if they are going to be accepted in those spheres. Games workshop knows this. Amazon knows this. Female Custodes are here. Female Space Marines are coming. This holds true for BIPOC & LGBTQ+ representation as well. You can't tell people they are lesser because they aren't white males. It's not true and it's not right.
You lost me rather quickly with your spewing of the message that is trying to be programmed. That and Because your entire premise relies on many false narratives. 1, Men cant be women..... women cant be men. You can identify as whatever the hell you want but you cant change your genes..... and guess what prostate exams are still recommended in middle and old age for trans individuals who have gone from male to female. If they change the space marine lore..... their franchise dies..... The Gene Seed is coded male from the MALE Primarchs and if you think the outrage from Femstodes was something to go by; when strictly speaking there isnt anything to specifically say there cant be female custodes because they have never explained the process to make them; watch the outrage when they mess with that lore. if they introduce trans characters their franchise dies because rightly or wrongly that would be a sign of chaos, a sign of impurity because that's the 40k universe..... there's a reason slannesh and followers of slannesh have regularly been described as possessing both male and female characteristics. 2, if we are talking physicality it is completely fine to say that one gender is naturally better. Am i going to outrun a fully trained female sprinter..... not a snowball's chance in hell.... But a male sprinter will be faster than a female sprinter just as a male weight lifter will lift more than a female weight lifter....... Its called the differences in the genders and guess what women are naturally better at things as well. You might not agree with basic biology like alot of people spouting the same brainwashed message but..... well i do. Furthermore to this point watch the door slam shut on trans athletes (specifically male to female) in every single sport over the next 5-10 years. Because guess what pretty much every male-female trans athlete so far has broken women's records until they have been disqualified or had the event cancelled as a result..... The reason for that..... Basic biological differences as a result of genetics. In no way am i saying women are inferior to men and only a moron would construe something like that. What i am saying is men are better at things and women are better at things and it would be nice to have a grown up conversation about the reality of that rather than the hyper feminist agenda that exists these days. Now applying this to genetic super soldiers even ignoring point 1, if genetic enhancement enhances pre-existing peaks by say a percentage.... the faster, stronger individual would be even faster or even stronger because they have a higher peak to begin with. And that is pretty much the understanding everyone I know has of the lore. 3, this addresses a couple of points..... Firstly I am a white male.... not all Warhammer fans are white or male. Not even all space marines are white but if you were an actual fan you'd know that.... There are women playing today who love the game for what it is, and there are female factions that have their own unique strengths and abilities and guess what when the game reaches a new sphere then it will open up the game to other people as well. That argument doesn't mean it has to change though for that new sphere, As you said it doesnt even register on a normies radar because they dont know about it or arnt interested whatever the reason. Who is to say that when they do become aware they dont like it the way it is? Your argument is one dimentional and asinine at best..... When this opens up to a wider audience it means that people need to accept it for what it is. As we should accept everyone and everything for what it is...... if you don't like something, then don't play it and dont get involved because guess what it doesn't need to change to accomodate you. Which ironically is the same argument that people advocating for these changes use once they have fulfilled their agenda when the displaced want things changed back. 4, People are already represented and more people are welcome to the hobby, as i've said before I have never seen anyone be turned away from the hobby or from conversations or groups so long as they respect the hobby and the people who enjoy it. The problems come when people like you, try to force modern day politics into a universe that literally cannot contain those politics without breaking everything that the universe represents. If you get what you want, there wont be a GW left in 10 years time once all the tourists have left and the hardcore fans, that you treat with such disdain especially trying to introduce a racial element to it, don't want anything to do with GW anymore. Think im wrong? there are more franchises out there that tried to appease people the way you are clearly advocating...... and they're all dead. Because the perceived modern audience doesn't exist. Its just virtue signalling and in many instances they are just talking virtues and dealing evil.
@Caniswalensis the motto is simple and to the point: when you go woke, you go broke as this has been proven to the point that the majority of businesses today are removing any/all DEI/inclusion agendas and personnel. while you can fool some of the people some of the time, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. businesses that cater to the woke agenda, are banking on 1/100th of a percentage of their "paying" customers will make up the difference in sales that the other 99% of the customers regularly purchased. since this is proven not to be the case, corporate America is ditching the DEI/Woke initiative in droves - to the point that it's effecting the unemployment numbers.
Its the reason Western Entertainment as a whole is dying, they prioritise change over storytelling and until that stops things will just keep getting worse. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
ive played GW fore over 390 years i am not a tourist, i LOVE the idea of female Custodes and if it upsets the far rigth snowdrops then so be it, no one is stoppin gthem from playing, they are welcome to play, i welcoem the far right to play alongside trans people gay people and women, im happy for all of those to play :) they all just have to put up with each other, remember no one is stopping the crackpots crying over this playing they are still more than welcome to play, they are banning themselves, cos they are crackpots, id be more than happy asa straight black man, whose played Warhammer fantasy and 40k longer than many people have been alive, im more than happy to see this diversity and am happy to have the trans community, lgbqt community, the black and asian community and females represented, it wont stop me from playing, by including them isnt banning me from playing, i will still play the games i want to play and treat everyone with the same respect, il treat right wingers the same as i treat Trans people as they are equals to each othert in every way, there is no difference between a right winger and a trans man or woman, there is no difference between a right winger and LGBQ person, or a black or asian people. remember the only people saying they cant play is themselves, they are gatekeeping themselves. PS the majority of older players like me dont care.
So how old are you.... 410? The point is and I have made this multiple times, no one who respects the hobby has been turned away from the hobby. Which pretty much covers everything you just said. The problem is changing a universe that is not representative of the real world to be representative of the real world and in the 40k it doesn't work. And look how well its gone for every other fictional setting. Because if you think that this is fine then by the same token we should remake the Lord of the rings make legolas and gimli gay, make aragorn trans and gandalf an amputee. Because well its representation isn't it? That's the only reason these changes are made, it leads to bad story writing and the death of franchises. If you have actually been around that long and don't understand the reasons why that's the case then there's not much point continuing this response.
@@BanefulChronicles and yes i started collecting warhammer in 1989. i had an orc and goblin army allied with wood elves, and also allied with a chaos army which included power weapons, a plasma gun and a bolt weapons, which back then was allwoed in warhammer fantasy, as you had accces to power armour, power weapons and 40k guuns in warhammer back then. i started to geti nto rogue trader back then, and had my actual first army to use, which consissted of some of my army and borrowed off my friends big brother. in waqrhmmaer 40k second edition. which was space marines, in third ediition i had my own space marine army the blood angels. and in my club there is about 60+ members and ive not heard a single one even care about this, the average age is around 50, im 42 im one of the youngest ones there, and most the the people there think the young ones are moanign over nothing.
Well i started around 2013 in 40k and from what i can remember in storage, the loft and what i have readily available around me (so i might miss somethings out). 1 predator 2 Rhinos 2 Dreadnoughts 1 land speeder 1 squad ravenwing bikes 1 Darkshroud 1 Dark Talon 2 Squads Deathwing terminators 3 Squads of tacticals Some of the below are still being put together as since the birth of my son time has been a bit more of a premium. 2 packs fenrisian wolves 1 set of thunderwolves 1 warsuit 2 squads intercessors 1 squad reivers Various HQ units for DA and SW I also had a small Chaos force which I have recently sold, I was going to use the money to continue with my SW army but for the foreseeable future I will be practicing what I preach and not buying a thing from GW. Before getting into 40k I also had a very sizable empire army in Fantasy with some dwarf units also. Unfortunately I got rid of most of those when they blew up the world to make fantasy 40k which i was always of the opinion, why play fantasy 40k when i can just play 40k.
@@BanefulChronicles marines.... ugh! Mind you, they are basically the starter set. Easier to paint, pretty good all round on the tabletop (damn that 3 up save). Fantasy/ancient has basically been "unit where each model represents 10 men" clashing. 40K feels like a modern skirmish
@@TheJase8566 I cut a section from the video where i think i said For the emperor like 3 times in 15 seconds...... even i thought it was too much and before 40k it was For the Empire so i might have a type. I love space marines but i have warred with myself on several occasions to start astra militarum or from the left field, Orks. Never quite got round to it though and i feel like the amount of imperial guards id have to paint for the astra militarum is slightly demoralising..... but they do have the coolest tanks.
why didn't you make this video about any of the other dozens of retcons that actually mattered, like T'au FTL or the 13th black crusade? i know why it's because you just get mad at anything you think is woke, you don't think the lore is actually important
I could have made a video about how bad the writing it, how they don't adequately show abbadon as a strategist and instead seem to portray him as failing upwards. I could do a video on the countless retcons on the tau having access to ftl to not having access and vice versa and how now their back story makes little to no sense. I could also do a video on the 13th crusade and the significant retcon that changed a stalemate to a Sundering of the universe. There are a couple of reasons why I haven't. Recency bias - this is happening now. It's woke - your right I have a problem with it because it's woke. The other changes you have mentioned are a product of shit writing, the people responsible not knowing their product and a need to steer the universe in a certain direction to move the story forward in a way that ultimately benefits games workshop's bottom line. It is not to inject modern day politics into the ip. And until they introduce female custodes minis there's no way this change can be read other than being specifically for DEI. So potentially invalidating 10000 years of history and lore for one of the factions specifically for DEI. I would also just like to point out within the video I specifically said that GW changes things and many of the changes suck. This includes the examples you gave. If they made either of those changes tomorrow I'd be making a video but seeing as I've been active on TH-cam for about 5 months and don't have a time machine...... But maybe it's an idea for a video looking at the worst lore changes and ranking them, so thanks for that.
@@BanefulChronicles your points about why you haven't made those videos are decent enough, and it's good to have TH-camrs holding equal regards for all retcons. regarding the woke part - it's not exactly woke anymore to have women in things. If it were trans lesbians that'd have more meaning to it. There's also no physical reason that women can't be custodes. Yes, normal human women are generally weaker, but custodes are so genetically modified that they're basically an entire different species of humans. You can't base things on physiological differences when you're talking about ten foot tall super mutants with TWO HEARTS. if they can change the entire circulatory system for that purpose they can easily change any sex based differences. You said this would make more sense if they were releasing female custodes, but any of the helmeted custodes could easily be female. They'd likely have the same build as male custodes through genetic modification, the only difference would probably be sex organs (which would probably be completely deactivated). It's not like they're going to make them big titty babes in skin tight uniforms, that just doesn't make sense and there's no reason to think that it's what they're doing. This change also only retcons ONE LINE in a book where it says that "custodes are sons". Compared to other retcons, this is entirely inconsequential. This could have easily passed for one of the thousands of times small details have been missed because there's so many different authors. Also, it's obvious that you're pandering. DEI specifically refers to the structure of companies and organizations. If GW were increasing DEI, it'd be through something like announcing that they were hiring more POC or women to their company - which they have not done. Maybe learn the meaning of words before you use them.
@@SkyBlade79 you are right, there is no reason why technically custodes can't be female. I addressed that point in a previous video but did not address it again because I didn't really want to retread old ground. Lore wise there is no reason provided that it can't happen other than it has been stated on several occasions they are sons or a brotherhood (which amounts to the same thing) and never once stated that they are also women. The problem is: it should happen going forward. You could provide rational and reasoning as to why this has changed moving forward and, while there will be some who won't like it, lore wise it's fine. When as a company you turn around and make a change and back date it 10000 years and gaslight your fans, it raises significant questions. Mainly these questions are how..... and why...., I'm not talking about their origins here I'm talking about the fact that there isn't a reference to them in over 200 novels or 9 editions of content. Some of which specifically deal with the custodes. I'd say the biggest question though.... is why was this change necessary its not as though there isn't female representation already and they could have done something the player base has been asking for like expanding the SOS. Previous changes have largely led to changes in the universe that promote the sale of minis. They released no minis and recieved significant backlash. You are right about DEI in what you said about it being internal company directive however who said I am specifically talking about GW's DEI. While they are to blame I firmly believe that this change was not made for GWs benefit, it was made for the DEI initiatives of amazon and their box ticking on shows. Now because Games workshop made this change, in my belief, to accommodate amazon's DEI, then its still done for DEI because its for Amazon's hiring and casting practices.
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Thanks for the comment, and that's a really good way to put it.
I always just think of them as sanitisers trying to remove or destroy anything that is remotely problematic to their world view.
@@BanefulChronicles the move in and fenand everything be changed to suit them and then push those already there out.
Amen
Nice to have another person who sees this for what it is.
We already have a faction for these types of people, it's Slaanesh.
So, just because GW has been corrupted by Slaanesh, it doesn't mean I'm going to accept it as cannon and bend the knee.
"Suffer not the Woke to live." "Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean." "Burn them with Holy Fire."
When i started reading this comment all i could think was this is heresy and the treatment is fire..... and then you crowned it off awesomely.
I tip my hat good sir, and thanks for commenting.
This is something I've been explaining about Star Trek, Stargate and B5; real fans like because what it is like - that includes things that it is loved for, but also *loved despite*. That's why OUTSTANDING and well crafted Stargate Universe didn't catch up - it was strongly embedded and respectul to the lore; just too different tonnaly. Yeah, O'Neill's humor usually broke the tension and was Marvel-like (but smart....) - so WHAT? That's why EVERY SINGLE STAR TREK SERIES after TOS was picked apart by fandom - because in Star Trek fandom, debating technical / physical feasability or lack of thereof, pointing out incosnistencies is basically inherent part of being fan. If you make warp engines with exhaust or introduce grimdark to Star Trek - be prepared to defend this choice; you knew what you were doing...right? PS: It is not only on what has been done, but also HOW it has been handled.
Couldnt agree more. People look for consistency and when something doesnt fit within their idea of the consistency of that universe there needs to be rationale as to why that thing happens.... the How you handle the change. Would i have liked the change in 40k was it rational? Nope, id have thought it was done only for representation but i would have just grumbled and moved on. The problem was they basically just went, Suck It to the fans.
I really liked Stargate Universe, the problem is.....it wasn't stargate. As you said the tone was massively different and they almost certainly had an inflated actor bill which meant that when it didn't do fantastically well it was always going to get axed. I just dislike never knowing whether Eli Lives or dies.
My husband has been ranting about this nonstop. He's so annoyed. And I, as a woman, do not care about representation. I want accurate lore, because it's there for a reason. It's the world building and the internal logic of the world.
Tell him the Emperor protects and give him a hug. Lot of fans feeling that frustration
Its all about the story...it's what allows you to immerse yourself in anything. And the destruction of stories for the sake of representation is why everything sucks at the moment.
As for your husband, listen to chuck..... because he said it best..... unless of course your husband is a heteric then the emperor most certainly does not protect lol.
Just have to say I couldn't have responded to that better than you did. If I could double like I would 👍🏻.
Here is the thing that the people opposing female Adeptus Custodes don't understand.
For purposes of this issue:
The lore doesn't matter.
Your nostalgia doesn't matter.
Existing female representation doesn't matter.
There is only one thing that matters and when you understand it, you understand that female Custodes and Space Marines must exist.
It is this; Custodes and Space Marines must be inclusive because they are described as being the best of the best of the human race. Whats more, Space Marines are the face of 40K.
If you say women can't be a part of the best of the best, than you are saying women are inherently inferior to men. Thats the shameful 40 year old message they wrote into their lore. That message is not only untrue; it is abhorrent to any fair minded person.
40K has existed with this implicit statement as part of it's IP so far because it is not even a blip on the average person's radar.
But things are changing. Games Workshop and Warhammer 40k are entering larger spheres. They must fix this problem in the lore if they are going to be accepted in those spheres.
Games workshop knows this.
Amazon knows this.
Female Custodes are here.
Female Space Marines are coming.
This holds true for BIPOC & LGBTQ+ representation as well. You can't tell people they are lesser because they aren't white males. It's not true and it's not right.
You lost me rather quickly with your spewing of the message that is trying to be programmed.
That and Because your entire premise relies on many false narratives.
1, Men cant be women..... women cant be men. You can identify as whatever the hell you want but you cant change your genes..... and guess what prostate exams are still recommended in middle and old age for trans individuals who have gone from male to female.
If they change the space marine lore..... their franchise dies..... The Gene Seed is coded male from the MALE Primarchs and if you think the outrage from Femstodes was something to go by; when strictly speaking there isnt anything to specifically say there cant be female custodes because they have never explained the process to make them; watch the outrage when they mess with that lore. if they introduce trans characters their franchise dies because rightly or wrongly that would be a sign of chaos, a sign of impurity because that's the 40k universe..... there's a reason slannesh and followers of slannesh have regularly been described as possessing both male and female characteristics.
2, if we are talking physicality it is completely fine to say that one gender is naturally better. Am i going to outrun a fully trained female sprinter..... not a snowball's chance in hell.... But a male sprinter will be faster than a female sprinter just as a male weight lifter will lift more than a female weight lifter....... Its called the differences in the genders and guess what women are naturally better at things as well.
You might not agree with basic biology like alot of people spouting the same brainwashed message but..... well i do. Furthermore to this point watch the door slam shut on trans athletes (specifically male to female) in every single sport over the next 5-10 years. Because guess what pretty much every male-female trans athlete so far has broken women's records until they have been disqualified or had the event cancelled as a result..... The reason for that..... Basic biological differences as a result of genetics.
In no way am i saying women are inferior to men and only a moron would construe something like that. What i am saying is men are better at things and women are better at things and it would be nice to have a grown up conversation about the reality of that rather than the hyper feminist agenda that exists these days.
Now applying this to genetic super soldiers even ignoring point 1, if genetic enhancement enhances pre-existing peaks by say a percentage.... the faster, stronger individual would be even faster or even stronger because they have a higher peak to begin with. And that is pretty much the understanding everyone I know has of the lore.
3, this addresses a couple of points..... Firstly I am a white male.... not all Warhammer fans are white or male. Not even all space marines are white but if you were an actual fan you'd know that....
There are women playing today who love the game for what it is, and there are female factions that have their own unique strengths and abilities and guess what when the game reaches a new sphere then it will open up the game to other people as well.
That argument doesn't mean it has to change though for that new sphere, As you said it doesnt even register on a normies radar because they dont know about it or arnt interested whatever the reason. Who is to say that when they do become aware they dont like it the way it is? Your argument is one dimentional and asinine at best.....
When this opens up to a wider audience it means that people need to accept it for what it is. As we should accept everyone and everything for what it is...... if you don't like something, then don't play it and dont get involved because guess what it doesn't need to change to accomodate you.
Which ironically is the same argument that people advocating for these changes use once they have fulfilled their agenda when the displaced want things changed back.
4, People are already represented and more people are welcome to the hobby, as i've said before I have never seen anyone be turned away from the hobby or from conversations or groups so long as they respect the hobby and the people who enjoy it.
The problems come when people like you, try to force modern day politics into a universe that literally cannot contain those politics without breaking everything that the universe represents.
If you get what you want, there wont be a GW left in 10 years time once all the tourists have left and the hardcore fans, that you treat with such disdain especially trying to introduce a racial element to it, don't want anything to do with GW anymore.
Think im wrong? there are more franchises out there that tried to appease people the way you are clearly advocating...... and they're all dead. Because the perceived modern audience doesn't exist. Its just virtue signalling and in many instances they are just talking virtues and dealing evil.
@BanefulChronicles
You are arguing points that don't matter.
@Caniswalensis
the motto is simple and to the point:
when you go woke, you go broke
as this has been proven to the point that the majority of businesses today are removing any/all DEI/inclusion agendas and personnel.
while you can fool some of the people some of the time, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. businesses that cater to the woke agenda, are banking on 1/100th of a percentage of their "paying" customers will make up the difference in sales that the other 99% of the customers regularly purchased. since this is proven not to be the case, corporate America is ditching the DEI/Woke initiative in droves - to the point that it's effecting the unemployment numbers.
What are your thoughts on the responses so far? Do you think we can get anywhere by boycotting? Let me know below!
I don’t think they should alter these stories for an agenda either
Its the reason Western Entertainment as a whole is dying, they prioritise change over storytelling and until that stops things will just keep getting worse.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
ive played GW fore over 390 years i am not a tourist, i LOVE the idea of female Custodes and if it upsets the far rigth snowdrops then so be it, no one is stoppin gthem from playing, they are welcome to play, i welcoem the far right to play alongside trans people gay people and women, im happy for all of those to play :) they all just have to put up with each other, remember no one is stopping the crackpots crying over this playing they are still more than welcome to play, they are banning themselves, cos they are crackpots, id be more than happy asa straight black man, whose played Warhammer fantasy and 40k longer than many people have been alive, im more than happy to see this diversity and am happy to have the trans community, lgbqt community, the black and asian community and females represented, it wont stop me from playing, by including them isnt banning me from playing, i will still play the games i want to play and treat everyone with the same respect, il treat right wingers the same as i treat Trans people as they are equals to each othert in every way, there is no difference between a right winger and a trans man or woman, there is no difference between a right winger and LGBQ person, or a black or asian people. remember the only people saying they cant play is themselves, they are gatekeeping themselves. PS the majority of older players like me dont care.
So how old are you.... 410?
The point is and I have made this multiple times, no one who respects the hobby has been turned away from the hobby. Which pretty much covers everything you just said.
The problem is changing a universe that is not representative of the real world to be representative of the real world and in the 40k it doesn't work. And look how well its gone for every other fictional setting.
Because if you think that this is fine then by the same token we should remake the Lord of the rings make legolas and gimli gay, make aragorn trans and gandalf an amputee. Because well its representation isn't it?
That's the only reason these changes are made, it leads to bad story writing and the death of franchises.
If you have actually been around that long and don't understand the reasons why that's the case then there's not much point continuing this response.
@@BanefulChronicles and yes i started collecting warhammer in 1989. i had an orc and goblin army allied with wood elves, and also allied with a chaos army which included power weapons, a plasma gun and a bolt weapons, which back then was allwoed in warhammer fantasy, as you had accces to power armour, power weapons and 40k guuns in warhammer back then. i started to geti nto rogue trader back then, and had my actual first army to use, which consissted of some of my army and borrowed off my friends big brother. in waqrhmmaer 40k second edition. which was space marines, in third ediition i had my own space marine army the blood angels.
and in my club there is about 60+ members and ive not heard a single one even care about this, the average age is around 50, im 42 im one of the youngest ones there, and most the the people there think the young ones are moanign over nothing.
@@BanefulChronicles pH and no it wasn't fair tech weapons in warhammer fantasy where extremely unfair and unbalanced
Would you kindly list the miniatures you have in your warhammer army
Well i started around 2013 in 40k and from what i can remember in storage, the loft and what i have readily available around me (so i might miss somethings out).
1 predator
2 Rhinos
2 Dreadnoughts
1 land speeder
1 squad ravenwing bikes
1 Darkshroud
1 Dark Talon
2 Squads Deathwing terminators
3 Squads of tacticals
Some of the below are still being put together as since the birth of my son time has been a bit more of a premium.
2 packs fenrisian wolves
1 set of thunderwolves
1 warsuit
2 squads intercessors
1 squad reivers
Various HQ units for DA and SW
I also had a small Chaos force which I have recently sold, I was going to use the money to continue with my SW army but for the foreseeable future I will be practicing what I preach and not buying a thing from GW.
Before getting into 40k I also had a very sizable empire army in Fantasy with some dwarf units also. Unfortunately I got rid of most of those when they blew up the world to make fantasy 40k which i was always of the opinion, why play fantasy 40k when i can just play 40k.
@@BanefulChronicles marines.... ugh! Mind you, they are basically the starter set. Easier to paint, pretty good all round on the tabletop (damn that 3 up save).
Fantasy/ancient has basically been "unit where each model represents 10 men" clashing. 40K feels like a modern skirmish
@@BanefulChronicles Mind you, thats a decent set of marines. good for fun games with mates.
@@TheJase8566 I cut a section from the video where i think i said For the emperor like 3 times in 15 seconds...... even i thought it was too much and before 40k it was For the Empire so i might have a type. I love space marines but i have warred with myself on several occasions to start astra militarum or from the left field, Orks. Never quite got round to it though and i feel like the amount of imperial guards id have to paint for the astra militarum is slightly demoralising..... but they do have the coolest tanks.
@@TheJase8566 Thanks, it might be sad of me to say but first and foremost i kind of just went with what looks good lol.
why didn't you make this video about any of the other dozens of retcons that actually mattered, like T'au FTL or the 13th black crusade? i know why it's because you just get mad at anything you think is woke, you don't think the lore is actually important
I could have made a video about how bad the writing it, how they don't adequately show abbadon as a strategist and instead seem to portray him as failing upwards.
I could do a video on the countless retcons on the tau having access to ftl to not having access and vice versa and how now their back story makes little to no sense.
I could also do a video on the 13th crusade and the significant retcon that changed a stalemate to a Sundering of the universe.
There are a couple of reasons why I haven't.
Recency bias - this is happening now.
It's woke - your right I have a problem with it because it's woke. The other changes you have mentioned are a product of shit writing, the people responsible not knowing their product and a need to steer the universe in a certain direction to move the story forward in a way that ultimately benefits games workshop's bottom line. It is not to inject modern day politics into the ip.
And until they introduce female custodes minis there's no way this change can be read other than being specifically for DEI. So potentially invalidating 10000 years of history and lore for one of the factions specifically for DEI.
I would also just like to point out within the video I specifically said that GW changes things and many of the changes suck. This includes the examples you gave.
If they made either of those changes tomorrow I'd be making a video but seeing as I've been active on TH-cam for about 5 months and don't have a time machine......
But maybe it's an idea for a video looking at the worst lore changes and ranking them, so thanks for that.
@@BanefulChronicles your points about why you haven't made those videos are decent enough, and it's good to have TH-camrs holding equal regards for all retcons.
regarding the woke part - it's not exactly woke anymore to have women in things. If it were trans lesbians that'd have more meaning to it. There's also no physical reason that women can't be custodes. Yes, normal human women are generally weaker, but custodes are so genetically modified that they're basically an entire different species of humans. You can't base things on physiological differences when you're talking about ten foot tall super mutants with TWO HEARTS. if they can change the entire circulatory system for that purpose they can easily change any sex based differences. You said this would make more sense if they were releasing female custodes, but any of the helmeted custodes could easily be female. They'd likely have the same build as male custodes through genetic modification, the only difference would probably be sex organs (which would probably be completely deactivated). It's not like they're going to make them big titty babes in skin tight uniforms, that just doesn't make sense and there's no reason to think that it's what they're doing.
This change also only retcons ONE LINE in a book where it says that "custodes are sons". Compared to other retcons, this is entirely inconsequential. This could have easily passed for one of the thousands of times small details have been missed because there's so many different authors.
Also, it's obvious that you're pandering. DEI specifically refers to the structure of companies and organizations. If GW were increasing DEI, it'd be through something like announcing that they were hiring more POC or women to their company - which they have not done. Maybe learn the meaning of words before you use them.
@@SkyBlade79 you are right, there is no reason why technically custodes can't be female. I addressed that point in a previous video but did not address it again because I didn't really want to retread old ground.
Lore wise there is no reason provided that it can't happen other than it has been stated on several occasions they are sons or a brotherhood (which amounts to the same thing) and never once stated that they are also women.
The problem is: it should happen going forward. You could provide rational and reasoning as to why this has changed moving forward and, while there will be some who won't like it, lore wise it's fine. When as a company you turn around and make a change and back date it 10000 years and gaslight your fans, it raises significant questions. Mainly these questions are how..... and why...., I'm not talking about their origins here I'm talking about the fact that there isn't a reference to them in over 200 novels or 9 editions of content. Some of which specifically deal with the custodes.
I'd say the biggest question though.... is why was this change necessary its not as though there isn't female representation already and they could have done something the player base has been asking for like expanding the SOS.
Previous changes have largely led to changes in the universe that promote the sale of minis. They released no minis and recieved significant backlash.
You are right about DEI in what you said about it being internal company directive however who said I am specifically talking about GW's DEI.
While they are to blame I firmly believe that this change was not made for GWs benefit, it was made for the DEI initiatives of amazon and their box ticking on shows.
Now because Games workshop made this change, in my belief, to accommodate amazon's DEI, then its still done for DEI because its for Amazon's hiring and casting practices.