Boston's Unbreakable Bond: The Enigmatic Connection of Tom Scholz and Brad Delp

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  • @magneto7930
    @magneto7930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    This is a very one-sided story. There is no mention whatsoever of the sheer embarrassment, shame, and humiliation that Brad Delp had when it was discovered that he had planted a spy camera in the bedroom of his fiance's sister. There is also no mention of Brad's long history of battling depression for about 10 years. Tom might have been tough to deal with, but it certainly doesn't sound like anything that would lead Brad to take his own life. After all, Brad was hardly in Boston anymore, considering the fact that it took Tom many years to complete an album.

    • @mr.timebombman2230
      @mr.timebombman2230 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly. People really didn't know all the details that really happened before he had taken his life. That humiliation and guilt was something that Brad couldn't get past.

    • @kenamay
      @kenamay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      FAKE ENDING. Brad may have been depressed and had some resentment, but he was a very wealthy man and he got caught with the spy cam & didn't want to face the public backlash. He didn't do it because of Tom. He was a great singer, amazing, but without Tom Sholz who knows?

  • @lilianakarapas9112
    @lilianakarapas9112 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It is sad that humans do not have the capacity to accept one another with compassion & appreciate all offer very much to the success. I do not like controlling people full stop. Yes, one man was a brilliant engineer etc BUT without Brads voice it would not have been as magical.

  • @libby2012
    @libby2012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It looks like Scholz and Delp were similar in some ways and the complete opposite in others. What seems similar: love of music, passion for living, integrity. The obvious opposite was that Delp, seemingly like many or most musicians, was unstable. There’s something about creativity, particularly music, that is elusive and ephemeral. Almost magical. Requires A LOT OF WORK, and a successful end result seems to be frequently happenstance. That is the world of Delp. Scholz, on the other hand was an engineer. They are, generally, very stable and boring to most others. His approach to music was, therefore, very different than most musicians. He managed to mix the two opposites of creativity: musical ephemeral artistry and technical definable artistry. Boston would not have happened without both Delp and Scholz.

  • @jamescecil4629
    @jamescecil4629 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think with the issue of depression in his life to start with and added heartaches like the feud between Tom and Barry and the fact Brad was losing his voice just became more than a person could bare.

  • @braddsn
    @braddsn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This video is one sided, at best. And, 'most' of the comments people are making are off-base as well. Brad battled depression most of his life. And not unlike every other band on the planet, Brad and Tom didn't always see eye to eye. That's life in a band. Also, like it or not, Boston belonged to Tom Scholz, period. It was his baby, and he had the right to run it as his own. For example, Brad hated that Tom fired Fran Cosmo from the band, because Brad was the type of guy that was a friend to everyone, and cared a lot about Fran. That put a lot of stress on Brad and forced him to take a side. This is a huge deal for a guy who is emotionally fragile like Brad. Tom however was more of a businessman, and was making changes as he saw fit. When Tom and Barry had their falling out in the beginning (circa 1978-ish), that caused a huge family mess because Connie Goudreau and Micki Delp are sisters. This of course, like always, put Delp right in the middle of it. Fast forward to the lawsuit filed by Scholz right after Brad's suicide, unfortunately friends and family were dragged into it and forced to take sides. The meat and potatoes of the thing is this... Scholz created Boston. It was his idea, he created the Rockman, which gave Boston that unique sound, he wrote most of the songs, and on the albums, played 95% of the instruments. He also produced and engineered all of it. On the flip side he hired one of, if not THE best male vocalists to ever walk the earth to provide vocals. Together, they truly made magic, if only for a short time. I would argue that the first 2 albums are 2 of the best rock albums to ever be recorded. Absolute masterpieces. Third Stage and Walk On were pretty great too, but starting to sound a little more processed. After that, the sound drifted too far away from the original Boston sound and I lost interest. But man I am thankful that Brad and Tom made music together. It was the soundtrack of my childhood!

    • @Solar-Busters
      @Solar-Busters 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You nailed it 💯 % otherwise Brad & Barry would still be getting royalties as Tom does for the last 54 years

  • @waltersimmons946
    @waltersimmons946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Barry Goudreau played lead and monster guitar on LONG-TIME not Scholz. Goudreau also was the lead guitarist on Delps "LET ME TAKE YOU HOME TONIGHT " the only song on the debut album where all 5 band members played together in a studio in California. Scholz really didn't do everything himself as he wanted people to believe. Even geniuses need a little help along the way.

  • @Gonzalo-wr9mm
    @Gonzalo-wr9mm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Scholz took advantage of everyone in his band, Boston. I can imagine hom sitting high and mighty like Don Henley running things with an iron fist. Bostons sound would never have been what it was, with any other singer. They can copy him, but never have his charisma. Scholz will pay for what he did, in the mean time hide sorry mfer. Rest in peace Brad, the man that gave all.

    • @basher5107
      @basher5107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He took advantage of No One.
      The “members” were employees or hired guns.

    • @neechee5150
      @neechee5150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@basher5107 If what you say is true, why did Barry have to sue Tom over the issue of royalties from the first two records? Barry prevailed in Court and Tom has to pay Barry his original share of the royalties from the first two records which Tom tried to deprive Barry of.
      Also the corroborated facts and legal documents are very clear on the fact that Epic signed Brad and Tom at the same time because Epic knew that Brad's voice was an integral part of the Boston sound and that is what they bought and paid for when they signed Brad. Brad was not an employee or hired gun!!! Here is something it took Tom 30 years to finally admit with some help of all of the litigation that took place. Tom finally admitted in the post litigation liner notes of the 2006 Scholz reamster of the debut record that Brad and Jim Masdea did a lot of arrangement work on the songs on the first two records

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@neechee5150you can be an employee yet still receive royalties. They’re aren’t mutually exclusive.

    • @mickeysm64
      @mickeysm64 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think that Boston would have been Boston without Brad delp.​@@basher5107

  • @alcondragon
    @alcondragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    First and foremost, Brad Delp and Barry Godreau were best friends. Tom answered an ad in the Boston Phoenix paper for a keyboard player in Brad and Barry's band, thats how they met. Later on Tom formed Boston with them. Brad's relationship with Tom was business not personal. Brad left Boston and stayed with Barry and formed 2 separate bands, one being RTZ. They were brother inlaws. Look up interviews with Barry and learn the real truth, not this bs

  • @PaulPaid
    @PaulPaid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    False. Without Tom there is no Boston. He is the mastermind behind all the instrumental material and Boston's sound. Remember, he had to go and find a vocalist when CBS wanted to hear his demos live. Having said that, Brad is without doubt the most phenomenal vocalist he could've found. Absolutely inimitable. Without him Boston will never be the same...but it's still Boston because Tom is there. Having been friends for 3 decades, they were like brothers, and we know brothers fight from time to time. Brad taking his own life was a result of depression, just as we see in many entertainers and people from all walks of life today. We do Brad a disservice by implying that he and Tom were ever enemies.

    • @neechee5150
      @neechee5150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @PaulPaid, said, "Remember, he had to go and find a vocalist when CBS wanted to hear his demos live"
      That is fiction. Barry introduced Tom to Brad back in 1969/1970 when Tom was playing in Barrys band. Brad sang on multiple demo tapes that Tom recorded through the years. The demo tape that got the attention of Epic and producer John Boylan had Brad singing all of the vocals and when Epic signed the record deal they signed BOTH BRAD and Tom to the same deal at the same time because Brads vocals were integral to the Boston sound that Epic paid for.
      @Paulpaid, said,, "Having been friends [Tom and Brad] for 3 decades, they were like brothers, and we know brothers fight from time to time"
      What objective corroborated facts and/or first hand knowledge and experience are you basing this on? We know that Brad formally left Boston before the Third Stage was released but he agreed to do do the tour. We also know that per Fran Sheehan that Tom was trying to replace Brad before the second record was recorded and released. We also know for a fact from multiple sources that Tom is VERY DIFFICULT to work with and that he is very autocratic guy with a Titanic sized ego who repeatedly either diminished or flat out ignored/lied about the contributions of others to the Boston debut record.
      Albeit 30 years after the fact, and after years of litigation, Tom finally came clean regarding who did what on the first record in the liner notes of the 2006 Scholz remaster of the debut record, and Tom FINALLY gave Brad (and Jim Masdea as well) credit for ALL of the arrangement work that Brad did on the songs on the debut Boston record. Tom also gave Barry credit for all of the guitar work that he did on Foreplay and Long Time. Tom also finally gave credit to Fran for his bass playing on Foreplay.
      The facts are these-Brad left Boston before the Third Stage was released. Brad joined Barry to work with Barry. If you want to see some thing that tells the story, watch videos of Brad when he is singing with Barry in one of Barry's bands and compare that to when Brad is singing on stage for Tom. Big difference.

    • @PaulPaid
      @PaulPaid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neechee5150 I don't know which liner notes from 2006 you read that Tom "came clean" on but the ones available to everyone else only stated that he was pleased with the remixed recordings of Brad's older vocals. All this imaginary credit to any band member for writing Boston songs has yet to be seen. Your math isn't even adding up. Tom is a control freak indeed, but miraculously he relinquished the writing of Bostons materials to others in the band?? Make it make sense. Publishing was a thing back then too. If band members wrote material and didn't get credit it wouldn't have been kept silent let alone allowed to continue for the course of 2 more albums. Ridiculous. You then try to paint the narrative of Tom only writing the material for the first album after he met Brad. Utterly False. Most of songs were elaborate demos Tom made in his home studio before the two even crossed paths. With all of this extraordinary song writing abilities that the band members never got credit for, and them being responsible for Boston's sound, which one of their ventures outside of Boston gained even moderate success?? Strange. I even remember MTM's pathetic attempt to market Barry Goodreau, after leaving the band, as the "Sound of Boston". LOL. It was a miserable flop. Hilarious. You got jokes Neechee..😆.

    • @neechee5150
      @neechee5150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulPaid
      1. I clearly stated the specific liner notes that I referred to. They are the liner notes for the 2006 Scholz (not Sony) remaster of the 1976 debut Boston record. These liner notes are available to anyone who cares to do the work to find them and to read them. If you care to learn the history, Tom found out that Sony did their own remaster of debut Boston record and the second record without his input or approval. Tom got pissed and did his own remasters and put them on the market. Tom was not able to get the original master tapes. He had to buy copies from Epic/Sony.
      2. Arranging a song and writing a song are two distinctly different things and anyone with a modicum of background in songwriting, song recording, and song publishing knows this. Any experienced musician knows this as well. Many different arrangements have been done of Bach's pieces, but Bach is still the writer/composer, and so it was/is with the songs on the debut Boston record. You either made your claim about what I was saying about who wrote and who arranged the songs on the debut Boston record either out of ignorance or out of a flagrant lie. However, here are the facts: Brad did in fact write Let Me Take You Home, and Brad did in fact co-write Smokin'. This is well documented and admitted to by Tom as fact. As for the arrangement work, I will quote the liner notes from the remaster that I mentioned which was Tom's pet project over which he had complete control. " Arranged by Tom Scholz and Brad Delp with help from Jim Masdea". If you do not want to take the time to do due diligence to do the research that is your choice but your refusal to find and look at the evidence does not in any way shape or form equate to this evidence not existing.
      3. It is well documented as fact that Barry introduced Brad to Tom in 1970. Barry, Brad and Tom played in bands together before Boston was ever Boston. At no time did I claim that Tom ONLY started writing the songs for this record after he met Brad. You have been caught in a LIE. However, the time line of when Brad and Tom met through Barry is what it is. There is absolutely no doubt that Tom and Brad recorded demos years before the debut Boston record was recorded. As for proof, there are copies of Toms demos on TH-cam one of which is reviewed by Rick Beato. The fact that these demos exist and that Brad sang on them is absolute proof that Brad was a part of the "Boston" sound before the record the record deal was signed and before the record was released. Barry also played on some of Toms early demos as well and this is documented fact.
      4. Brad Delp's vocals were on the demo that Epic and Boylan heard, and and because of that fact Brad was signed by Epic at the same time that Tom was because Brad's voice was an integral part of the Boston sound. The fact that Brad sang on Toms demos before the record was recorded is not debatable. It is FACT. Here is what Tom said under oath in legal documents pertaining to the Scholz vs Goodreau lawsuit : "Based on demo recordings on which Brad Delp sang all vocals, Jim Masdea played all drums, and Scholz played all other instruments, Epic Records signed Delp and Scholz to a record contract in 1975. Scholz had written all the songs on the demo recordings, and he alone produced, engineered, and financed the recording of the demos".
      5. Tom was also forced to admit the following under oath in legal documents pertaining to the law suit between Barry and Tom.
      Goudreau's involvement in BOSTON
      9. Goudreau is a talented guitar player.
      10. Goudreau played on just two of the eight cuts on the debut album: "Let Me Take You Home" and "Foreplay/Long Time." Bassist Fran Sheehan played bass on "Let Me Take You Home" and "Foreplay." Delp played acoustic guitar on "Let Me Take You Home." Otherwise, excluding drums and vocals, Scholz played all instruments on the debut album, and performed on every song, performing more of the instrument tracks than all other musicians combined. [Added Note from the 2006 remaster liner notes: Barry plays electric rhythm guitar on Foreplay, Long Time and Let Me Take You Home. Barry plays the huge power chords on Long Time as admitted by Tom himself Barry also plays all of the lead guitar solos on Long Time as well. Barry plays lead and slide guitar on Let Me Take You Home as well. There are good reasons why Tom was not able to legally deprive Barry of his original share of the royalties from the first two records.]
      11. On BOSTON's second album, Don't Look Back, released in 1978, Goudreau appeared on just four of the eight cuts: rhythm guitar on "The Journey," lead guitar on "Used To Bad News," and some of the lead guitar on "Don't Look Back," and "Don't Be Afraid." Scholz played the majority of the guitar tracks on these four songs, and all other instruments on all songs, except for drums and a few notes of bass guitar on "Don't Look Back."
      The legal documents that I am citing and quoting are easily found online and if you choose not to do due diligence to find them and read them, your refusal to do the work to find them and read them has no bearing on the fact that they do exist.

    • @PaulPaid
      @PaulPaid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neechee5150 .

  • @thesaneparty4079
    @thesaneparty4079 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There doesn't have to be a culprit, only a set of circumstances. Sholtz wrote and recorded almost all of it, and he got wealthy, and the others didn't. Delp and the rest were hired hands, though Delp had the strange dilemma of being the voice of it all. He probably could have negotiated a piece of the writers' royalty just for applying his voice, but Sholtz would have searched for someone else, and we'd never know Brad Delp.

  • @coondogsoutdooradventures2484
    @coondogsoutdooradventures2484 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s all hearsay. The ugly rumors are just rumors. They were all great together and Tom is a lone modern day Baytoven

    • @PaulFormentos
      @PaulFormentos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah but Baytoven never had a singer like Brad

  • @thetroublewiththat
    @thetroublewiththat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The personal handwritten note was about Elvis. The death certificate is from a guy that died in 1995.
    Great presentation! 🙄

  • @billmarshall2536
    @billmarshall2536 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is sooo much wrong information about how the first record was it's hard to believe anything else said. Click bait!

  • @CraftonBarnes
    @CraftonBarnes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is about as AI as it gets ...HEY Mr. GPT, IT'S SPELLED "Scholz" not "Shoals" 😂

  • @Mike990920
    @Mike990920 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    WTH?? This was nothing more than a recap of Boston’s timeline; which has already been documented ad-nauseum. It didn’t reveal anything new about the relationship between Scholz & Delp. 👎👎

  • @Jeff-fx1zy
    @Jeff-fx1zy หลายเดือนก่อน

    When mental illness comes into play, the relationship dynamics dont matter. Bad things can happen, regardless what you do, or dont do.

  • @HaroldRock
    @HaroldRock 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    TOM WAS THE DRIVING FORCE FOR BOSTON, HE EXPECTED HIS BAND TO BE AS COMMITTED AS HIMSELF, THEY COULD HAVE WALKAWAY, TOM SCHOLZ IS BOSTON

    • @SingleTax
      @SingleTax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If that were true, there'd be no need to scream about it.

  • @66Polarbear
    @66Polarbear 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those video graphics are F**CKING ANNOYING!

  • @steveharwell-fx9nf
    @steveharwell-fx9nf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think Tom is a huge asshole. He is a bully and a control freak. But, he is the master mind of the band. He can do what ever he wants with the product.

  • @thomasrobinson182
    @thomasrobinson182 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I admire Scholz' talent. His people skills and temperment seem to be lacking.

  • @rayfabris2512
    @rayfabris2512 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's Gary Phil not peel wtf

  • @ivansanzana8676
    @ivansanzana8676 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scholz's net worth $100M
    Delp's net worth $500K
    Delp killed the voice, he killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Simple!

    • @PaulPaid
      @PaulPaid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂False.

  • @ColKorn1965
    @ColKorn1965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So.....why did Brad send himself to meet Jesus?

    • @tonysams7261
      @tonysams7261 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Major depression, substance issues and probably bi-polar. Tragic 💔 best vocalist ever IMO. 🤘

    • @bradlee2594
      @bradlee2594 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@tonysams7261 - Depression, yes. Substance issues and/or bi-polar, no.

    • @abc-yv2js
      @abc-yv2js 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jeanclaude7018 Smoked pot. Worse however is when depression people decide to go off their meds on their own. I work with these people. On meds, they can have joy and productive days. Off the meds - "god" or a voice tells them thinge like " cut your neighbors tree down because .. ."
      If Brad went on and off the meds, or had a med change without someone supervising his response, that could motivate him to do as he did.

  • @andycummings-music
    @andycummings-music 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No.

  • @Nikkimaya1
    @Nikkimaya1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know what I think. You are the same narrator from Audit The Audit. That's what I think.

  • @thelowe6393
    @thelowe6393 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brad committed suicide because he got caught secretly video taping nudies of his girlfriend's younger sister. He was riddled with guilt and ashamed of his voyeurism as well as damaging those relationships. THAT'S why he killed himself.

    • @Mark-fk3ei
      @Mark-fk3ei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You know people like you that knows nothing about him. You are far off and he did not hang himself.

    • @thelowe6393
      @thelowe6393 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I meant to why he "killed" himself, not hung. my bad. However, the reason is what I had read many years ago. I didn't make it up.@@Mark-fk3ei

    • @catherinerose1607
      @catherinerose1607 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mark-fk3ei Looks like he edited out that part. Who is the coward? I love how people think they know everything.

    • @Mark-fk3ei
      @Mark-fk3ei 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @catherinerose1607 not worth our time

    • @catherinerose1607
      @catherinerose1607 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mark-fk3ei You’re right! Boston forever. 🎸

  • @ButchRahman
    @ButchRahman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is awful. Tremendously inaccurate and biased.

  • @robertsensat6985
    @robertsensat6985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that's a false statement

  • @chatgpt-n8r
    @chatgpt-n8r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this narrative is all wrong

  • @Chance-ry1hq
    @Chance-ry1hq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The voice on this video makes it unwatchable.

  • @paulvalentine1483
    @paulvalentine1483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brad was a whiny little coward. I love his voice, but he was afraid to be a man and stand up for himself.

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That's an evil 😈 unfair thing to say. Brad Delp actually battled depression and was suicidal as a teenager. He had absolutely no ego about his singing ability or the fame. He is still sorely missed.

    • @Mark-fk3ei
      @Mark-fk3ei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get a life. You know nothing about depression.

    • @PaulFormentos
      @PaulFormentos หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wonder if ole Tom lyric "A Man I'll Never Be" bout Delp