I did a search earlier on how to do panos in ON1. This video was the first link I chose to click on. I am so glad I did. Using what you instruct here, I made my first two successful panos ever. So, thank you very much, Mr. Davenport! Thank you for taking the time to make and post this video. Clear, straightforward and easy to follow.
I have been shooting and stitching panos for a long time. Now it is certainly much easier and faster with good if not better results. I like that LR has it build in and keeps the stiched file as a RAW (DNG) file. With the stitched RAW file it maintains the latitude to post-process unlike Tiff, PSD, etc..I have revisited most of my past panos and redone them with these updated methods.
Hi Ron ... assuming highlight and shadow recovery are done with the initial RAWs, how much difference do you notice wrt contrast, detail, color, etc. processing with a TIFF?
@@ScottDavenport Scott, I don't do any pre-processing to the individual files before creating the pano. I understand that the resulting pano is a RAW file so I can access all of the data in its RAW form once pano is created. Tiff, PNG, etc.. are pixel-based files and no longer have the full data a RAW file does. I always attempt to keep my files RAW as long as possible. 70% of my photos never leave LR or their RAW form unless I need PS for layering, masking, and stuff not possible in LR. My personal rule is, "If it can be done in LR, then do it in LR."
@@TheSmartWoodshop Yup. Makes total sense for that workflow. And it's streamlined. I was curious because, generally speaking, once I've reigned in the tones from an initial RAW, I've noticed little difference working with a TIFF.
Scott, very nice pano with great clouds and color. I have a request for a future video: how to do sky replacement in On1 with water in the foreground? I figure it involves flipping the sky but I would like to see you do a video on that. Thanks and stay safe.
Duly noted! It's been a long time since I've done a sky replacement video for ON1. And yes... you're absolutely on the right track. Layers and horizontal flips are needed. Adding it to the list.
Nice dude. I always used to do this manually in photoshop. Now I use a very easy program called Microsoft ICE. ICE looks a lot like the feature you are using. One cool thing it can do is make a panorama from a video.
@@ScottDavenport Super cool. Cause often your pano videos are not perfectly smooth ya know. Then you can put the pano image in a video and very smoothly scroll it.
Hi Scott, thanks for your tutorial. Very clear and really easy to follow. I'm currently looking to replace Lightroom. I'm using Luminar AI and Affinity photo, which are great for single images but feel I need more of a workhorse for weddings and corporate shoots. I've also tried Exposure X6 which seems a bit slow and laggy. Capture One is great but expensive and I wanted to steer clear of subscriptions. Would you say On1 was a good all-'round alternative? Or would you recommend any others? Thanks!
Glad the video was helpful. Yes, ON1 is a good, well-featured alternative to Lightroom. Solid asset management as well as rich editing features. Free trial (of course). If you do decide to purchase, use my offer code SDP20 and save a little money, too!
Hello Scott, my experience with On1 if I do an outdoor vertical pano I never can stich the top photo to my pano (75% sky and 25% land features). Can with On1 do a manuel stitching? If yes, can you point me to a tutorial. Thank you.
That's interesting ... I would expect the land features would provide enough content to do a stitch. Anyway ... you can do manual stitching in Photo RAW using layers. I don't know of a tutorial off hand, so here are the basics: - Load all the panels in as layers - Resize the Canvas to be much wider. For example, if you have 5 panels, make the Canvas width 5x and keep the height the same. - Use the Transform tool on each layer to position and adjust it. I haven't needed to use this technique, so it may need refinement. For example, you may need to experiment with applying lens corrections to each panel before bringing them in to stitch.
@@ScottDavenport Thank you very much for your answers. I had never found the way on how to expend the canvas. I will look for it now. I have a pano with 5 columns and 3 rows. I try to divide to conquer by stitching each column, but I couldn't stitch the top photo on any columns .
Why does the Pano facility in ON1 Photo Raw change the original RAW image files to another format such as PSD ? There doesn't seem to be a selection to keep the original file format. This being the case it would seem that you can lose the ability to adjust the tonal quality properly as you can with processing in LightRoom. I would like to see if the tonal adjustments - as well as the wb and lens correction could be sync'd across all the images before hitting the Pano button in ON1 to see if the results are the same as a LightRoom Pano post processed file after the Pano operation is executed. Any thoughts ?
Hi Fred .... in the Preferences, you have a choice between PSD and TIFF for merges. No options in the pano tool to choose on the fly. And you're correct the workflow is a little different in ON1 compared to LR. In ON1, you'd want to ensure all the tones are in range before stitching. Provided the tones are in range, a TIFF file is quite rich and you can do further adjustments without much issue. The RAW advantage is to reign in clipped areas .... do that before stitching. (And yes, you can sync a set of changes across photos right in Browse before pano stitching.)
Panorama stitching in ON1 Photo RAW 2020 is really a pain. It takes 5 times longer to stitch a panorama compared to Lightroom 6.14. I have allocated all possible resources in preferences. Very disappointed, I was looking for a Lightroom replacement.
I did a search earlier on how to do panos in ON1. This video was the first link I chose to click on. I am so glad I did. Using what you instruct here, I made my first two successful panos ever. So, thank you very much, Mr. Davenport! Thank you for taking the time to make and post this video. Clear, straightforward and easy to follow.
Super! Very glad to hear it. Thanks for watching.
I have been shooting and stitching panos for a long time. Now it is certainly much easier and faster with good if not better results. I like that LR has it build in and keeps the stiched file as a RAW (DNG) file. With the stitched RAW file it maintains the latitude to post-process unlike Tiff, PSD, etc..I have revisited most of my past panos and redone them with these updated methods.
Hi Ron ... assuming highlight and shadow recovery are done with the initial RAWs, how much difference do you notice wrt contrast, detail, color, etc. processing with a TIFF?
@@ScottDavenport Scott, I don't do any pre-processing to the individual files before creating the pano. I understand that the resulting pano is a RAW file so I can access all of the data in its RAW form once pano is created. Tiff, PNG, etc.. are pixel-based files and no longer have the full data a RAW file does. I always attempt to keep my files RAW as long as possible. 70% of my photos never leave LR or their RAW form unless I need PS for layering, masking, and stuff not possible in LR. My personal rule is, "If it can be done in LR, then do it in LR."
@@TheSmartWoodshop Yup. Makes total sense for that workflow. And it's streamlined. I was curious because, generally speaking, once I've reigned in the tones from an initial RAW, I've noticed little difference working with a TIFF.
Scott, very nice pano with great clouds and color. I have a request for a future video: how to do sky replacement in On1 with water in the foreground? I figure it involves flipping the sky but I would like to see you do a video on that. Thanks and stay safe.
Duly noted! It's been a long time since I've done a sky replacement video for ON1. And yes... you're absolutely on the right track. Layers and horizontal flips are needed. Adding it to the list.
Thanks Scott, very helpful.
Very welcome
Nice dude. I always used to do this manually in photoshop. Now I use a very easy program called Microsoft ICE. ICE looks a lot like the feature you are using. One cool thing it can do is make a panorama from a video.
Pano from a video ... that's interesting!
@@ScottDavenport Super cool. Cause often your pano videos are not perfectly smooth ya know. Then you can put the pano image in a video and very smoothly scroll it.
@@MattCookOregon Smart idea. Thanks for sharing!
ICE is a very good program, only thing missing is their finished stitch doesn't have a RAW option.
Hi Scott, thanks for your tutorial. Very clear and really easy to follow. I'm currently looking to replace Lightroom. I'm using Luminar AI and Affinity photo, which are great for single images but feel I need more of a workhorse for weddings and corporate shoots. I've also tried Exposure X6 which seems a bit slow and laggy. Capture One is great but expensive and I wanted to steer clear of subscriptions. Would you say On1 was a good all-'round alternative? Or would you recommend any others? Thanks!
Glad the video was helpful. Yes, ON1 is a good, well-featured alternative to Lightroom. Solid asset management as well as rich editing features. Free trial (of course). If you do decide to purchase, use my offer code SDP20 and save a little money, too!
nice tutorial, thanks
Sure thing!
Scott -stupid question. How do you get multiple images to display in the window in the Browse module.
Try the G key (for Grid). There are also small display icons in the lower left of browse to switch the view modes.
Hello Scott, my experience with On1 if I do an outdoor vertical pano I never can stich the top photo to my pano (75% sky and 25% land features). Can with On1 do a manuel stitching? If yes, can you point me to a tutorial. Thank you.
That's interesting ... I would expect the land features would provide enough content to do a stitch.
Anyway ... you can do manual stitching in Photo RAW using layers. I don't know of a tutorial off hand, so here are the basics:
- Load all the panels in as layers
- Resize the Canvas to be much wider. For example, if you have 5 panels, make the Canvas width 5x and keep the height the same.
- Use the Transform tool on each layer to position and adjust it.
I haven't needed to use this technique, so it may need refinement. For example, you may need to experiment with applying lens corrections to each panel before bringing them in to stitch.
@@ScottDavenport Thank you very much for your answers. I had never found the way on how to expend the canvas. I will look for it now. I have a pano with 5 columns and 3 rows. I try to divide to conquer by stitching each column, but I couldn't stitch the top photo on any columns .
@@ScottDavenport just found your tutorial on canvas. Thank you very for all the information you are posting. Luc
Why does the Pano facility in ON1 Photo Raw change the original RAW image files to another format such as PSD ? There doesn't seem to be a selection to keep the original file format. This being the case it would seem that you can lose the ability to adjust the tonal quality properly as you can with processing in LightRoom. I would like to see if the tonal adjustments - as well as the wb and lens correction could be sync'd across all the images before hitting the Pano button in ON1 to see if the results are the same as a LightRoom Pano post processed file after the Pano operation is executed. Any thoughts ?
Hi Fred .... in the Preferences, you have a choice between PSD and TIFF for merges. No options in the pano tool to choose on the fly. And you're correct the workflow is a little different in ON1 compared to LR. In ON1, you'd want to ensure all the tones are in range before stitching. Provided the tones are in range, a TIFF file is quite rich and you can do further adjustments without much issue. The RAW advantage is to reign in clipped areas .... do that before stitching. (And yes, you can sync a set of changes across photos right in Browse before pano stitching.)
@@ScottDavenport Thanks Scott.....
Panorama stitching in ON1 Photo RAW 2020 is really a pain. It takes 5 times longer to stitch a panorama compared to Lightroom 6.14. I have allocated all possible resources in preferences. Very disappointed, I was looking for a Lightroom replacement.