Fantastic stuff, as always. Please do one for the street triple 765rs in this kind of detail 🙏. The track and street video is really really good but that front and rear lack of engineering balance makes it tough to setup. And the moss riding insight is, of course, worth it's weight in gold
Thank u dr moss 👍 have spent the last few days watching your videos, super. Imagine have god I would be if you can do more test videos and do this changes and be able to show have the bikes CAN be when you do the correct settings. 🙏 now I am going to subscribe for full, so I can look at the entire videos. Your the best 👍👍 From 🇸🇪🇸🇪
Thank you for enjoying and now supporting my work via your subscription! I am sure you will enjoy the full length videos as they provide a lot of information.
I really enjoyed watching this video and I wonder why there are not more professionals that take the time to help a new rider dial every aspect of the bike to them so that they are not only a safer rider, but a more comfortable and efficient one as well. It is hard to think of all the bikes that I passed up on because I sat on it and it didn't like the way that it felt. While this was very naive, I just never thought to swap out handlebars, mirrors, clutch levers, and foot-pegs so that I can make the bike fit me as opposed me trying to fit on the bike.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to use the information to assist you with your current motorcycle and any future one that might come into your life so you can truly make it yours.
Thank you Dave for the informative video! One thing: I'm sure this was just a slip-up on Dave's part, but the toe pedal adjustment is "eccentric" not "elliptical" (in case someone needs the correct term). Cheers!
I think he was describing the movement of the pedal rather than the fixed position of it. As in if you adjust it, the pedal will move in an oval manner until you find the position you want. In this term, he was correct
i loved so much this video since i was looking for a deep analysis of ths bike which im looking to purchase!!! the only thing about it is that it feels a litle short for me (im a little less than 6 foot). i know very little of ergonomics tunnig, so i really, really would like an opinion or if you guys could point me where to find some useful info! thanks, great video (and sorry for my english jeje)
Well it's exactly what I thought from Aprilia. I'll make some notes & going for full setup week, when my Tuono660 is deliverd. Where's the rest of the video? Thx 4 your input Mr.Moss 👌
It's down on power from the new Street Triple RS... but is it down on performance and fun? It's a significant HP difference... Street RS's are putting down 118 at the wheel stock, and mod 120's with a pipe and tuning... Just wondering out it compares overall.
If you are measuring the two up just by numbers from a spec sheet you're doing it wrong... One is a triple and the other a twin, I'd say that fact is more important than power. That extra 18 hp is meaningless if the one bike handles and feels better than the other (not saying it does, but just saying).
@@azn_1050 Well, first, it's more than 18hp. That 118 for a stock Street RS, is at the wheel. If the Ape has 100hp at the crank, it's down around 88-90hp at the wheel at best... So the HP difference is more like 30hp. That's significant. That said, that was why I was wondering how it stacked up in the "real world". I understand the power characteristics of a twin vs a triple. I am on my 27th bike. Had lots of Ducati's, a Tuono V4 1100, CBR1000, GSX-R's, Speed Triples, you name it... That's why I was asking about how it rides, despite that big power difference.
@@krunchie101 I totally get that. I was asking how one rides compared to the other. I know he has ridden both bikes. The Street RS has a lot more power, but does it really matter? That's what I am trying to determine. My Tuono made 40hp more at the wheel than my Street RS... And a lot more torque... But I am finding that on anything other than wide open speed runs or a long straight on a track day, the lesser powerful Street RS is more nimble, and just as much fun to ride... In the twisties where the Tuono really couldn't put down 166hp and 85ft/lbs at the wheel, the Street is pretty much running the same speeds... It's only when the road opens up and you can put that big V4 power down, that the Tuono leaves the Street RS behind... My question was, is the little Tuono kinda in the same boat? Loses to the Street RS on the straights, but just as fast and fun in the mtns on a twisty road?
@Dave Moss Tuning I haf a question!!! Schräglage Motorrad Bmw S1000RR 2015 : Reifen 190er Metzler m7 rr: max. Schräglage 56 (Strasse) Motorrad Bmw S1000RR 2015 : Reifen 200er Conti Raceattak street 2: max. Schräglage 54grad (Strasse) frage... kann es sein dass man mit einem 200er reifen mehr Schräglage braucht um auf kante zufahren? weil ich hab jetzt noch 1-2millimeter (angststreifen) ... mag den begriff eigentlich nicht! jeder soll fahren wies für einen stimmt!.. aber ich habe schon das Bedürfniss den kompletten reifen zu nutzen!
Yes nice review and track session. not sure about the little commercial twist at the end, subscribe to my sight to see the full video and what I did to the tuning. Not really the TH-cam way.
Actually sat on the touno 660 myself I swear the levelers were fine for me, he's acting like he's got massive sausage fingers 😂 they've also designed it so lean a bit forward so you have a bit more than engaging ride and due to lean forward style so you don't get constantly blasted by air pressure with the help of the "fairings". Definitely agree on the shifter though.
Each to their own and that is what I felt I needed as yes, I have very short fingers by comparison to my palm. The bonus is riders talk about it and make changes to get themselves more comfortable.
Set sag at 30-40mm front and rear. Set damping in the middle of the range and work right in 2 clicks increments. Assess fork and shock trav el used to optimize preload.
Centimeters? You are stateside, mate. haha Remember, there are two types of countries... countries that use the metric system, and countries that have landed on the moon. ;-)
Except the apollo guidance computer used metric system (may be also because some of the engineers who had the critical knowledge about rockets were german): ukma.org.uk/why-metric/myths/metric-internationally/the-moon-landings/ And I guess he uses metric just because it is easier to get precise numbers.
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I enjoy an Intelligent, logical, expert opinion. Very well done, thank you.
I agree me too
One of few reviewers that does not read from the press release.
Also bring a tape measure.
I could listen to and watch both Dave’s all day long. Great work gents! Keep them coming. 👍😎🇦🇺
Just ordered one. First thing I did was sign up to your website to watch the full set up video. The info was well worth the subscription alone. 👍😊
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This is GOLD! Thank you, Dave. Priceless information here.
Would love to see Dave do one of these videos on the KTM 890 Duke R 😉
Absolutely LOVED the video on your DMT site, it was nice to see you and Mr.Williams on the track like that!
Geez man...most info I’ve ever received from a MC vid. I’m a sub now. Gonna check your web page to see if u have any info on my Aprilia
Fantastic stuff, as always. Please do one for the street triple 765rs in this kind of detail 🙏. The track and street video is really really good but that front and rear lack of engineering balance makes it tough to setup. And the moss riding insight is, of course, worth it's weight in gold
Just do a remote 1 on 1 with him.
Always fun and educational. Thank you Dave and Mr. Mathews!
Found my way here through Cali Motor TV videos, subbed for the wealth of information.
Love Aprilia... Best bikes ever...
Best review ever for the rider points of view. And the handle bar is not totally on a naked position. Now, I have 2nd thought.
Awesome content as usual, thank you. I'd love to see more videos like this.
Really nice review. 👍🏼 Thanks, Dave. Makes me want a sport naked bike again. 😁
Thank u dr moss 👍 have spent the last few days watching your videos, super. Imagine have god I would be if you can do more test videos and do this changes and be able to show have the bikes CAN be when you do the correct settings.
🙏 now I am going to subscribe for full, so I can look at the entire videos.
Your the best 👍👍
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Thank you for enjoying and now supporting my work via your subscription! I am sure you will enjoy the full length videos as they provide a lot of information.
The best review ever!
I really enjoyed watching this video and I wonder why there are not more professionals that take the time to help a new rider dial every aspect of the bike to them so that they are not only a safer rider, but a more comfortable and efficient one as well. It is hard to think of all the bikes that I passed up on because I sat on it and it didn't like the way that it felt. While this was very naive, I just never thought to swap out handlebars, mirrors, clutch levers, and foot-pegs so that I can make the bike fit me as opposed me trying to fit on the bike.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to use the information to assist you with your current motorcycle and any future one that might come into your life so you can truly make it yours.
Thank you Dave for the informative video! One thing: I'm sure this was just a slip-up on Dave's part, but the toe pedal adjustment is "eccentric" not "elliptical" (in case someone needs the correct term). Cheers!
I think he was describing the movement of the pedal rather than the fixed position of it. As in if you adjust it, the pedal will move in an oval manner until you find the position you want. In this term, he was correct
@@problemslayer3538 Except that it rotates in a circular fashion, not elliptical. It is eccentric.
@@gtada I don't think you know what your talking about
@@problemslayer3538 you don't have to believe me. Look up eccentric adjustment. Checkmate.
@@gtada Have you adjusted the pedal in question on the Aprilia tuono 660 ?
Bike sounds awesome
i loved so much this video since i was looking for a deep analysis of ths bike which im looking to purchase!!!
the only thing about it is that it feels a litle short for me (im a little less than 6 foot).
i know very little of ergonomics tunnig, so i really, really would like an opinion or if you guys could point me where to find some useful info!
thanks, great video (and sorry for my english jeje)
Well it's exactly what I thought from Aprilia. I'll make some notes & going for full setup week, when my Tuono660 is deliverd. Where's the rest of the video? Thx 4 your input Mr.Moss 👌
The full video is in premium content on the DMT website.
Fantastic bike
It's down on power from the new Street Triple RS... but is it down on performance and fun? It's a significant HP difference... Street RS's are putting down 118 at the wheel stock, and mod 120's with a pipe and tuning... Just wondering out it compares overall.
If you are measuring the two up just by numbers from a spec sheet you're doing it wrong... One is a triple and the other a twin, I'd say that fact is more important than power. That extra 18 hp is meaningless if the one bike handles and feels better than the other (not saying it does, but just saying).
@@azn_1050 Well, first, it's more than 18hp. That 118 for a stock Street RS, is at the wheel. If the Ape has 100hp at the crank, it's down around 88-90hp at the wheel at best... So the HP difference is more like 30hp.
That's significant. That said, that was why I was wondering how it stacked up in the "real world". I understand the power characteristics of a twin vs a triple. I am on my 27th bike. Had lots of Ducati's, a Tuono V4 1100, CBR1000, GSX-R's, Speed Triples, you name it... That's why I was asking about how it rides, despite that big power difference.
@@SquireSCA What's also significant is that the RS costs $2.5k more than the Tuono 660.
@@krunchie101 I totally get that. I was asking how one rides compared to the other. I know he has ridden both bikes. The Street RS has a lot more power, but does it really matter? That's what I am trying to determine.
My Tuono made 40hp more at the wheel than my Street RS... And a lot more torque... But I am finding that on anything other than wide open speed runs or a long straight on a track day, the lesser powerful Street RS is more nimble, and just as much fun to ride... In the twisties where the Tuono really couldn't put down 166hp and 85ft/lbs at the wheel, the Street is pretty much running the same speeds... It's only when the road opens up and you can put that big V4 power down, that the Tuono leaves the Street RS behind...
My question was, is the little Tuono kinda in the same boat? Loses to the Street RS on the straights, but just as fast and fun in the mtns on a twisty road?
Can you guys also do a2 restriction tunes on this as I’m struggling to find somewhere to get it done
Really enjoyable, thanks Dave. Since when did learning stuff become so much fun? :>)
I think the flat track crowd is saying "that bar width is just fine".
I ride mtn bikes, i think i'd like the wider bars. Have to try it
@Dave Moss Tuning
I haf a question!!!
Schräglage
Motorrad Bmw S1000RR 2015 : Reifen 190er Metzler m7 rr: max. Schräglage 56 (Strasse)
Motorrad Bmw S1000RR 2015 : Reifen 200er Conti Raceattak street 2: max. Schräglage 54grad (Strasse)
frage...
kann es sein dass man mit einem 200er reifen mehr Schräglage braucht um auf kante zufahren?
weil ich hab jetzt noch 1-2millimeter (angststreifen) ... mag den begriff eigentlich nicht! jeder soll fahren wies für einen stimmt!..
aber ich habe schon das Bedürfniss den kompletten reifen zu nutzen!
Yes nice review and track session. not sure about the little commercial twist at the end, subscribe to my sight to see the full video and what I did to the tuning. Not really the TH-cam way.
Thanks for the positive review. Agreed - but this is my business and my website puts food on the table each day.
Actually sat on the touno 660 myself I swear the levelers were fine for me, he's acting like he's got massive sausage fingers 😂 they've also designed it so lean a bit forward so you have a bit more than engaging ride and due to lean forward style so you don't get constantly blasted by air pressure with the help of the "fairings".
Definitely agree on the shifter though.
Each to their own and that is what I felt I needed as yes, I have very short fingers by comparison to my palm. The bonus is riders talk about it and make changes to get themselves more comfortable.
Is that Nick's voice at the 10 minute or so mark?
Hello🙋♀️, could somebody please explain the issue with the "two clicks"?? I don't get it and what these clicks have to do with being slow? 🤷♀️
With oil flow going clockwise means "less flow" so flow is restricted. Therefore oil flow is slower.
@@catalystreactionsbw Ah ok thank you!
3:51 you can adjust that clutch lever length by tuning the nut where the cable does in?
That would not adjust the lever, only the engagement point for the actual clutch
my english isnt that best, what did he adjust that he rides better? the brakehandle?
I adjusted forks for braking stability and shock for better drive. I also changed lever angles as best as possible for me.
Why do so many manufacturers put unadjustable clutch levers on there bikes
I'd venture to go with cost. I may be 100% off base.....
My goodness eh. The difference between this and the usual dross on YT. From the beginning 10 seconds, you know this is a good use of your time.
Was expecting to get settings 😢 Nice video though
Set sag at 30-40mm front and rear. Set damping in the middle of the range and work right in 2 clicks increments. Assess fork and shock trav el used to optimize preload.
@@catalystreactionsbw Wow, thank you so much sir !
Run your tape over your website...it is no where near the bars.
Centimeters? You are stateside, mate. haha
Remember, there are two types of countries... countries that use the metric system, and countries that have landed on the moon. ;-)
Wow, I didn't know the UK has landed on the moon. It is the ONLY country that is officially Imperial... US is metric. Officially... ; )
@@myppnu other than the ever elusive 10mm socket, where is the us metric? Lol
@@SquireSCA As I said Officially...
@@myppnu So it exists on paper, not in practice...
And we still landed on the moon.
Allegedly.
Except the apollo guidance computer used metric system (may be also because some of the engineers who had the critical knowledge about rockets were german): ukma.org.uk/why-metric/myths/metric-internationally/the-moon-landings/
And I guess he uses metric just because it is easier to get precise numbers.
Ball mashers. Eccentric not elliptical....