Really wish VF wasn't only on Playstation. I knew VF and Tekken were very different beasts, but they're clearly even more different than I thought. Makes me wonder if you swapped a random character from either game to the other without changing them in any way, would they fare poorly or wreck the game. Probably depends a lot on which character was placed in either game.
It's simple. If VF 1,2,3 was released on Playstation back in the day, it would still be extremely popular, probably just as much as Tekken or more. I liked Tekken 3, the other games I didn't play a whole lot, but your video made the dinstinction between the two game's flow clear for the first time ever. Now I get why they feel so different in a way, and why I favour VF. I may not be able to articulate it, but the read gameplay, the close range...everything blends together to "click" more for me, than what is being asked of me when playing Tekken.
One of my Favorite movements in VF is when an Old VF2 Player Boom Boom Maru. Came up with the Crouch backdash cancel which no one had b4, to beat another player using Lau. Who at the time was considered a OP top tier. The best part, he won using this method with Wolf Hawkfield.
Watching this now has made me realise how tekken 8 is a lot more like virtua fighter. Less turtling, homing/counter hit throws, aggression, offence is new defence etc
Alot if good information, but I want to expand on whiff punishing and spacing in VF: Yes, it is required to be comfortable at close range, but you can absolutely play a ranged game. All movement options can be cancelled into one another continuously. The highest levels of play make very frequent use of their superior movement speed (successive dash/crouch-dash cancelling to play pseudo-footsies. That's how you can start to get consistent perfect rounds.
As an Anime player I don't really find 3D games to be all that engaging, due to their grounded martial arts focus, but in a weird way, Virtua Fighter is So grounded that it loops back around to being interesting lol. I've been meaning to boot up 4 on fightcade and start learning it ever since it got added on there, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
What kind of 2d games do you like? I've never been sucked in by any of the 2 games that I've tried. Tekken and Soul Calibur were the only thing that got me to come back.
Interesting video. I always noticed that about the latest VF. Once you got in, it seemed like a slugfest and you could just get huge combos for seemingly small hits. Of course, there is more going on there, but that's what it looks like. He mentioned boxing in phonebooths and I just had to laugh. Very reminiscent of Frye vs Takeyama.
The Netcode is really really good. it's the best delay based netcode on the planet. The only issue is if nonody play the game in Europe , you ll have match making with Chinese and Japanese and Korean players.. :/ (Still playable but not optimized )But If you're from NA you can have very good connection No miracles with super long distances even with rollback.
I will definitely second that going from Tekken to VF, trying to grasp how strong throws are (both using them and using abare/ducking/preemptive breaking to get around them), as well as how weak backdash is, is very, very tough!
Love this video, but I'd like to make one slight critique which is that you probably shouldn't have used the Tekken skins to show VF gameplay, at times it was confusing on the eyes for a moments glance. But otherwise great stuff.
I do hope in VF 6 they do add some ranged movement options. Like in VF3 and VF4. But things like mixing your evades into movement makes VF interesting at mid range. I would love to see oki in VF because for me it feels quite different than Tekken
What do you mean by ranged moves ? VF has plenty of them. More than tekken. If you're the kind of player who like to fight long range you totally can do it. Some charatcters are long range specialists and super annoying Also what do you mean by "I whish VF6 will have oki" VF has the most complexe oki situations than any fighting games.. :/
Ok the Tekken skins are super cool and more convincing than I would have anticipated but this required 110% of my focus to look at and I still think I confused a few scenes. Might have been nice to label the VF characters by name on screen.
@@chudeexiste7329 i don't remember, i do know that VF5 is in both Yakuza 6 and Yakuza 7, but im not sure if you can actually play VF from the main menu from the get go or not. Regardless, you should be playing Yakuza anyways, specially Yakuza 7. Even if you "have" to play it to unlock VF5, it is a win-win situation 🤓
It's rare in the neutral, but footsies are viable during oki. Limited but it's there. Space control is also there but it takes a different form. Less about distance and more about direction right/left (away/towards screen). The stages are small and ring outs are always present so as a defender, being able to reposition in the 3rd axis is important. Conversely, it's also important to know how to keep your opponents back towards the ring edge. Instead of worrying about poke distance, the principal concern is the directionality of the attack/defense.
That would be pointless since it wouldn't truly be Tekken x VF, it would simply be Tekken with VF characters in it. The reason people like VF is not just the characters, it's the entire fighting system.
Lost me half way through the video. Just a few words on how things are different and then immediately into how to set up scary scenarios. I wish the tutorial went slower and made sure the audience understands ideas before going deeper
@@epicon6 Where did i say it makes it better? To me it definitely IS better, but nowhere in my statement did i mention that, it's irrelevant. The thing i had an issue with is you claiming VF was somehow a "bootleg" version of a series that it clearly came before and that it clearly inspired. So by THAT logic Tekken is a "bootleg" VF. You thinking Tekken is better is your opinion man, just like my opinion is that VF is better. But what's not an opinion, but a fact, is that VF came first and inspired Tekken in a multitude of ways. Show respect to the father of 3-D fighters and the series that inspired the one you love so much. Tekken literally wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for VF, calling VF a "bootleg" version of Tekken is laughable.
As someone who abandoned T7 in favour of older Tekkens because of T7's tilt towards CQC and pitbull aggression, I'm not about to touch VF5 with a ten-foot barge pole. Further to that, I'm genuinely baffled by those who (rightly in my admittedly subjective opinion) complain about the nerfed movement of T7, and yet are singing the praises of VF5. How can you on the one hand complain about T7 being too much of a brawler's game, and on the other, eulogise a fighting game that is far more CQC-oriented than any Tekken to date has been (save for T4)? That makes no sense to me but ... heyhoe.
i totally agree with you! for virtua fighter i really hope they make a vf6 with buffed movement, right now moving in vf feels like i'm stuck in the mud, im also crossing fingers for tekken 8 to have tekken 5's movement or even more buffed, wtf is this trash we got? i think they did this just to please 2d akuma players, it seems they were so desperate to attract 2d players they had to nerf the whole cast's movement and side step just for akuma, what a joke
@@journie3042 i have vf final showdown on playstation 3, but i think the movement is still weak on that one, i dont know about vf4 how much faster is it? is backdash an option? tekken 7 and 4 have the worst movement, but backdash is still viable, and a must learn for advanced players, is backdash viable in previous vf games at all?
There's a genuine rush that you get from the intensity of Virtua Fighter games that just can't be found elsewhere. As mentioned at the end of the vid, there's a great community out there keen to help people find their way in it too if you change your mind.
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Really wish VF wasn't only on Playstation. I knew VF and Tekken were very different beasts, but they're clearly even more different than I thought. Makes me wonder if you swapped a random character from either game to the other without changing them in any way, would they fare poorly or wreck the game. Probably depends a lot on which character was placed in either game.
I'm guessing that characters like noctis/kunimitsu/geese/Akuma would work very weirdly in vf
@@ryanmartin4037 not dlc nonsense like an actual tekken character lol
@@ryanmartin4037 theres alrady a char with demon flip in vf, and parry mechanics are still there, so akuma woudnt be so different besides fireballs
It's wild how the only way to play VF on PC is inside the Yakuza games.
@@SishirCor emulator tbf
Great guide that shows just how different VF and Tekken are (despite the Tekken skins confusing me).
It's simple. If VF 1,2,3 was released on Playstation back in the day, it would still be extremely popular, probably just as much as Tekken or more.
I liked Tekken 3, the other games I didn't play a whole lot, but your video made the dinstinction between the two game's flow clear for the first time ever. Now I get why they feel so different in a way, and why I favour VF. I may not be able to articulate it, but the read gameplay, the close range...everything blends together to "click" more for me, than what is being asked of me when playing Tekken.
Finally a Tekken to VF video
Fuck yes, more VF content please
This is exactly what i needed! Always wanted to jump into virtua fighter
One of my Favorite movements in VF is when an Old VF2 Player Boom Boom Maru. Came up with the Crouch backdash cancel which no one had b4, to beat another player using Lau. Who at the time was considered a OP top tier. The best part, he won using this method with Wolf Hawkfield.
Thank you. I find this game so appealing to watch but attempting to adjust to it is so frustrating
Goh Hinogami for Tekken 8!
VF6 needs a Tekken representative too!
Rewatched this video atleast 4 times already. Brilliant work. Please bring the next in the series. Cannot wait enough.
I see VF I hit like 👀
Please sega release this on steam
Yeah, might have to download this on my ps5 after work
Amazing video! Thank you for VF content. High quality as always!
i wish they released it on Steam
Watching this now has made me realise how tekken 8 is a lot more like virtua fighter.
Less turtling, homing/counter hit throws, aggression, offence is new defence etc
Yooo I needed this, played VF5 when I first got my PS3 in 2007 so it's about time I actually learn to play it properly lol.
Alot if good information, but I want to expand on whiff punishing and spacing in VF:
Yes, it is required to be comfortable at close range, but you can absolutely play a ranged game. All movement options can be cancelled into one another continuously. The highest levels of play make very frequent use of their superior movement speed (successive dash/crouch-dash cancelling to play pseudo-footsies. That's how you can start to get consistent perfect rounds.
Can't my PS5 come any faster. Really wanna play VF 😩
Might need to go to Kamurocho and play some VF
Love the VF content. VF5US is a real joy to play!
As an Anime player I don't really find 3D games to be all that engaging, due to their grounded martial arts focus, but in a weird way, Virtua Fighter is So grounded that it loops back around to being interesting lol.
I've been meaning to boot up 4 on fightcade and start learning it ever since it got added on there, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Do it it’s so much fun I plan on organizing a tournament for Virtua fighter 4 final tune soon (with some help from the community).
What kind of 2d games do you like?
I've never been sucked in by any of the 2 games that I've tried. Tekken and Soul Calibur were the only thing that got me to come back.
I'm also mainly an anime player, and the only 3d fighters that interest me are VF and DOA.
Interesting video. I always noticed that about the latest VF. Once you got in, it seemed like a slugfest and you could just get huge combos for seemingly small hits. Of course, there is more going on there, but that's what it looks like. He mentioned boxing in phonebooths and I just had to laugh. Very reminiscent of Frye vs Takeyama.
great content as always, im fired up for rest of the series
Awesome description, thanks for this; this answers so many of my questions! Now it’s on Sega to get good netcode to the game.
The Netcode is really really good. it's the best delay based netcode on the planet.
The only issue is if nonody play the game in Europe , you ll have match making with Chinese and Japanese and Korean players.. :/ (Still playable but not optimized )But If you're from NA you can have very good connection
No miracles with super long distances even with rollback.
How to not be like Tmm.
Nice video and comparison. 🙏
Great vid. Good work
Offense and being close was a core trait I noticed too for the game, glad you said the same
Always professional content from TBS, SALUTE 💯
Great video
Tekken vs virtual fighter hell yeah
I will definitely second that going from Tekken to VF, trying to grasp how strong throws are (both using them and using abare/ducking/preemptive breaking to get around them), as well as how weak backdash is, is very, very tough!
Love this video, but I'd like to make one slight critique which is that you probably shouldn't have used the Tekken skins to show VF gameplay, at times it was confusing on the eyes for a moments glance. But otherwise great stuff.
when i play vf it feels like i am FORCED to fight to the death lmao!
Great info. Thanks for posting this!
I do hope in VF 6 they do add some ranged movement options. Like in VF3 and VF4. But things like mixing your evades into movement makes VF interesting at mid range. I would love to see oki in VF because for me it feels quite different than Tekken
What do you mean by ranged moves ? VF has plenty of them. More than tekken. If you're the kind of player who like to fight long range you totally can do it. Some charatcters are long range specialists and super annoying
Also what do you mean by "I whish VF6 will have oki" VF has the most complexe oki situations than any fighting games.. :/
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Akira doing Julia's ws2 and ff1 lol. Great video as always.
If a VF came out on steam I'd be playing it right now
FINALLY
@WormyJester8 INSANE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
lmk when vf makes a PC with rollback. till then ill try vf on fightcade
This said it was the first in a series, but it's the only one I can find
Wondering if the rest weren't made, or just weren't added to this playlist?
Ok the Tekken skins are super cool and more convincing than I would have anticipated but this required 110% of my focus to look at and I still think I confused a few scenes. Might have been nice to label the VF characters by name on screen.
With this video I discovered I dont like VF, but I still want to buy a new one to meses a round against cpu
I'd play it BUT THE GAME IS NOT ON PC FFS
VF3 and VF4 on fightcade, baby
I cope with the tragedy by playing vf4 on fightcade but god damn it sega put it on steam or something he’ll I will buy it of epic games store
Get Yakuza 6 for PC and than you can play it on the arcade machines in-game lol
@@agrippa2012 I've seen that method ¿but how much of the actual game do I have to play? lmao
@@chudeexiste7329 i don't remember, i do know that VF5 is in both Yakuza 6 and Yakuza 7, but im not sure if you can actually play VF from the main menu from the get go or not.
Regardless, you should be playing Yakuza anyways, specially Yakuza 7. Even if you "have" to play it to unlock VF5, it is a win-win situation 🤓
Vf is not on steam so :(
It's hard AF to turtle in fs
Joel Perez vf6
Alone because of the lack of the space control game/footsies I will always prefer Tekken over this
It's rare in the neutral, but footsies are viable during oki. Limited but it's there.
Space control is also there but it takes a different form. Less about distance and more about direction right/left (away/towards screen). The stages are small and ring outs are always present so as a defender, being able to reposition in the 3rd axis is important. Conversely, it's also important to know how to keep your opponents back towards the ring edge. Instead of worrying about poke distance, the principal concern is the directionality of the attack/defense.
tekken x virtual fighter with tekken gameplay will definitely get better and tekken and virtual fighter players can play together in one game 👍🤩
That would be pointless since it wouldn't truly be Tekken x VF, it would simply be Tekken with VF characters in it. The reason people like VF is not just the characters, it's the entire fighting system.
VF is easy to adapt to if you are a DOA player like me just saying 🙄
Lost me half way through the video. Just a few words on how things are different and then immediately into how to set up scary scenarios.
I wish the tutorial went slower and made sure the audience understands ideas before going deeper
VF looks like a back alley bootleg Tekken
VF is the originator, nothing about it is even slightly a “bootleg Tekken”.
@@euclid1068 Exactly, VF came first and Tekken stole ideas from it for years but somehow VF is the one that’s the “bootleg” yea ok, lol.
@@orlanzo2621 VF being made first doesn't mean it's better. And Tekken is an all different game and what mechanics they share Tekken does better.
@@epicon6 Where did i say it makes it better? To me it definitely IS better, but nowhere in my statement did i mention that, it's irrelevant.
The thing i had an issue with is you claiming VF was somehow a "bootleg" version of a series that it clearly came before and that it clearly inspired. So by THAT logic Tekken is a "bootleg" VF.
You thinking Tekken is better is your opinion man, just like my opinion is that VF is better. But what's not an opinion, but a fact, is that VF came first and inspired Tekken in a multitude of ways. Show respect to the father of 3-D fighters and the series that inspired the one you love so much. Tekken literally wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for VF, calling VF a "bootleg" version of Tekken is laughable.
As someone who abandoned T7 in favour of older Tekkens because of T7's tilt towards CQC and pitbull aggression, I'm not about to touch VF5 with a ten-foot barge pole. Further to that, I'm genuinely baffled by those who (rightly in my admittedly subjective opinion) complain about the nerfed movement of T7, and yet are singing the praises of VF5. How can you on the one hand complain about T7 being too much of a brawler's game, and on the other, eulogise a fighting game that is far more CQC-oriented than any Tekken to date has been (save for T4)? That makes no sense to me but ... heyhoe.
Tbh I have no choice but to play Tekken 7 as it's the only Tekken game playable natively on PC.
probably sidestep works in VF and in Tekken you need to work for the movement is my guess?
i totally agree with you! for virtua fighter i really hope they make a vf6 with buffed movement, right now moving in vf feels like i'm stuck in the mud, im also crossing fingers for tekken 8 to have tekken 5's movement or even more buffed, wtf is this trash we got? i think they did this just to please 2d akuma players, it seems they were so desperate to attract 2d players they had to nerf the whole cast's movement and side step just for akuma, what a joke
@@tiger-rgn VF4 - VF5 vanilla are faster than VF5FS version
@@journie3042 i have vf final showdown on playstation 3, but i think the movement is still weak on that one, i dont know about vf4 how much faster is it? is backdash an option? tekken 7 and 4 have the worst movement, but backdash is still viable, and a must learn for advanced players, is backdash viable in previous vf games at all?
This game just seems so inaccessible
No one plays these games :(
Big cap son ydkwyta
Said who vf4 is pretty popular on fightcade and vf5 isn’t doing bad
I do. I absolutely love VF, one of my favorite series of all time.
hey aria? No
This game seems completely inaccessible
I’ve been trying new fighting games but this just dosent even sound fun maybe I’m missing something
There's a genuine rush that you get from the intensity of Virtua Fighter games that just can't be found elsewhere. As mentioned at the end of the vid, there's a great community out there keen to help people find their way in it too if you change your mind.
It's a reason nobody plays it
who cares about virtua fighter I prefer a virtua stripper.
i can tell that you are a very humorous person :)
The gameplay reminds me of DOA a bit
In a lot of oaspect VF is very similar to DOA's controls.
It will be easier to dive in VF if you 've already played DOA.