Red Bull IN CRISIS as Adrian Newey QUITS! 😨
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- Adrian Newey has officially departed Red Bull, with the team reportedly entering into meltdown with multiple other senior figures considering an exist. Max Verstappen is presumably among them, with his father Jos responding to the situation. Fred Vasseur allegedly met with Newey in London today to secure the Ferrari contract move.
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00:00 Alright guys
00:30 Ferrari Livery
01:30 Newey Departs
07:00 Gardening Leave
10:30 Red Bull Meltdown
15:00 Ferrari
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Horner thinks he's Steve Jobs at Apple, but he'll quickly discover that he's John Sculley and the actual Steve Jobs just left.
I’m starting to think he’s way worse than Jobs. I’m talking Steve Ballmer territory.
Jobs just took credit for ever y thing his team did, so actually it's a perfect comparison.
Steve Jobs ruthlessly took credit for most of Apple's achievements that he had little to do with other than be angry when they didn't work exactly how he wanted
@@TheFinalMeowntdown Ballmer was a good ceo, not phenomenal but good
So all the other people that work at red bull don’t actually do anything? Just Newey?
Fred was in hibernation at alfa... now the beast is awake... Fred's cooking
The off track is action better than the races.
Netflix is going to have a field day with this story
Fr
Best off track season I can remember. The most boring on track season I can remember
On track is fine, there are 19 other positions to decide and 76 more points to award. Cry more. But on track next year it’s gonna be as nuts as the off track events that lead up to it. 😂
Can you make an original comment
What's crazy is that Merc is willing to pay Max and give him the ambassadorship. But, would not give it to their 8 time champion.
I, for one, am glad that Sir Lewis is leaving for the scarlet red.
Went to the Mercedes museum 2 years ago. No mention of lewis anywhere. Just one of his cars. They even chose Nico Rosberg’s car instead of a second lewis car. You go to Maranello and Schumi is mentioned enough to be portrayed as loved by Ferrari still.
6 time*
@@cautilligabHamilton is original a McLaren protege, not Mercedes. Ron and Adrian were responsible in those days..
Max is in a similar position to Lewis was 12 years ago at his age..
Mostly just seems like Lewis was having a hissy fit because he thinks he's entitled to always have the fastest car on the grid and was making excuses to leave Mercedes.
Can't blame Newey
, the chance to work with Lance stroll again people forget how good stroll is
We just wanted the Dinoco livery ;(
Sad 🦖 noises...
Who's we?
@@andrewbragg504 We certainly don't want to be lumped in with you when its comes to taste.
@@KungFuWizardOfJesus well if you think that blue looks good then I'm glad you're not lumped with me thanks 👍🏻
@@andrewbragg504 Never siad that we liked the new Livery. As the original comment said, we wanted a Dinoco style livery.
This was probably the best compromise for both parties. RedBull would have had a potentially significant problem if Newey just left right now. They sold 50 HyperCars at $6.3 million a piece as a car designed by Newey with no compromises. If he left now, that wouldn’t be true and could leave RB with a multitude of legal issues and disgruntled rich customers that might seek compensation. That’s $300 million in business that RB is incentivized to go smoothly. So they release him early, and he probably agrees to not say anything disparaging about Horner.
Redbull didn't stand a chance if EJ was involved - the man's an absolute terrier! 😂
who is EJ?
@@taqbir4zap eddie jordan (newies manager - apparently)
Originally a team owner himself, Eddie Jordan runs a big motorsport management agency and has a very powerful team of contract lawyers at his disposal ( he actually gave Michael Schumacher his first opportunity in F1) So you can be sure he will be getting the very best deal for Adrian.
Jordan also denied selling his f1 team to Horner, he said that he would be the worst owner of the team in the world.
Sure, Red Bull can probably not afford to hire a bunch of lawyers 😎
Redbull and Ford engines in 2026 with no Max or Newey is a nightmare situation for RB.
But, but, but... they have Christian Horner!.
They will become a B-team from 2026 on....
😂@@glynemartin
@@breathofawareness7903more like a c team
Surely Max should stay, he is the best driver, he can make Redbull win.
All Blue would have been a much better livery
If you look up Pininfarina designed Ferrari road cars.
This is something they can offer him, let him also do Newey designed Ferrari road cars.
He should not design all of them, but one or two special hypercars would be amazig. If he goes to Ferrari.
With a little "Newey" logo like Pinninfarina has.
hp scamming people with ink so they can afford that f1 ad spot
Which will draw more ink buyers, and probably some enterprise customers - the flywheel in action.
if Newey goes to Ferrari then the possibility of there being a championship winning car, the tension surely between Leclerc and Hamilton is sure to get a bit spicy.
They are best friends so I doubt it
@@Somerandomblackdud3everyone is besties till a wdc is on the line. history proves it
@@Somerandomblackdud3 Nico and Hamilton were best friends, grew up together racing from karting.... that went to hell real quick!
Shut up! Great drivers being rivals is a good thing! As long as it’s about winning, not personal bull c r a p !
@@wilton999 yes you are right, but there comes a point where it all boils over. Even the greats like Senna and Schumacher had really bitter attitudes toward their teammates. It’s only human nature and inevitable.
Yes! Newey leaving Cheatbull is fantastic. Go on and pick him up Fred!
Ferrari needs to get redbulls head of strategy.
Strictly speaking .... he hasn`t quit, he just wont be renewing his contract even though he is not on the RB payroll.... cough cough
He has quit. If he simply did not renew, he would be there until the end of 2025. That is his contract - and then a year of gardening leave on top.
I believe it’s been confirmed that Newey will be able to begin work next March, rather than May
Yes he can
What day, hour and minute?
Everyone has gone from saying newey was the important designer and master of all theirs success over the years. To now spewing crap about other *engineers* that are just as important, the actual contradictory is wild...yet so hilarious. Hes gone from beint loved ans glazed over, to now not being important.
Watch, all RBR top engineers that newey wants will follow to ferrari. the rest will be history!!
I think that anonymous TP was probably Zak Brown
I thought the same thing!
@@Theratronme too
Zak brown is the CEO tho....
@@SongShiyu Stella then. I just figured it came from McLaren leadership, and Brown's been praying on Red Bull's downfall lol
BEEN WAITING HOURS FOR THIS. Even my cat heard about this before Rab got a video out
I know it’s not plausible but one thing I’d love to see is Newey and Allison designing a car together that would be wow 🔥 and for Hamilton to drive it
Hamilton fans really get upset when he doesn't have a massive car advantage every season don't they?
@@ronmastrio2798 Hamilton has never had a massive car advantage so idk what you’re tlk about. If you would be so kind as to enlighten me since you’re so knowledgeable
Bit disappointed Ferrari didn't go all in on the blue livery tbh
....SERIOUSLY??....THIS WOULDVE BEEN A NIGHTMARE
......JUST A BADGE SOMEWHERE AND OK
@@robotnikkkk001 not a HP livery, a proper homage to the blue and white Ferraris in the US would have been a cool one-off thing imo
Alright guys!
The legacy of superman Horner...😅😅
I'm happy that you go up in numbers... Keep it up!
Any team that signs max, signs Jos, and that could tear any team apart
Great reporting. Thanks!
I went to Twitter after so long and after looking at the tweets from Red Bull fans quickly realised why I left Twitter
Confused ? You soon will be - Eddie and Adrian on a pea green boat made for two? Netflix must be creaming their pants 😂
Thanks TRab. Great reporting
That article definitely sounds like Zac
RIP to the GOAT man. Would have been nice to see what change he could have made in this world if he was still around. A force of good for everyone.
There are other race engineers, maybe even some that worked with Newey and learned a thing or two!
Yeah, but they are not going to stay with Horner.
No one wants to stay at this joke of a team
Yup and Newey will be more than happy to take them with him
RedBull fans now consider Newey garbage.
Love to see it 🤣
@@AvocadoAfficionado Well, it's not really Red Bull that is Garbage. At least not the Austrian part of it. But the rest including Horner is worse than just garbage.
I’m sure TacRab has a woody under the desk talking about this😂
He is 65years old and has been with Redbull for 19years....let him retire or go elsewhere so what crisis? Its just end of era.
Let's not kid ourselves, this is the power of Sir Lewis Hamilton at work.
Absolutely 👍
For some reason , people will still deny this. 100% true
Yeah absolute bollocks
No.
@@quadrantalerror1121 as I said 🥱
Newey won't go to Mercedes because toxic Jos and Helmut will probably be at Mercedes eventually.
Max has no other option for a top team after his daddy Jos tells him to leave RB.
On a different note Gunther Steiner is a clown 😂
Good quality content!
Hilarious how the British can’t comprehend someone simply leaving because they want to leave not because of this alleged drama.
Imagine if they lived as they “report”?
Simon Lazenby on Sky is one for that
OK, Newey is good but there is only one Newey and 10 teams. races, championships (driver and manufacturer) etc have been won by teams who didnt have Newey. there are lots of engineers to go around and lots more NEWER talented engineers coming out of school. Newey DOES NOT make a team. this is not the end of the world for RB
it infact is only the beginning. myb balbo n wache r next😂😂
I mean... it sort of looks like it could be. Yeah I agree newey didn't singlehandedly build everything, there are lots of other talented engineers there, but this decision by Newey may end up being a signal to those other talanted engineers that it's time to look elsewhere. It sends a pretty damning message.
I think what Newey brings is a heap load of ground effect experience nobody else has. Sure they can learn the theory, have some clever ideas, but he’s the top trump in any deck. I agree there are plenty of other talented people, I don’t think anyone is suggesting different but he’s a huge talent. Over the last few years though I’m sure he’s passed on a huge amount of knowledge but it’s the fear of the unknown right? In 2026 we add active aero combined with ground effect. Will the knowledge he’s passed on be enough to keep RB at the top? Will 2 - 3 years of mentoring be enough to keep RB winning?
Lol,, the only team that manage to beat newey since the 90’s is ferrari, with all their money on the table, they have more designer, great facility, and there is no cost cap on that era..mercedes may had won 8 straight title, but its only because they had the fastest engine.. car spec? RedBull always better on the downforce, thats why they kept winning races even when they was the 3rd best car on the grid.. kid, give that man the respect he deserve, that man is one of the key reason that make you a RB fan..
Truth in your statement, but computer generated models and CFD is what the new engineers know. Which is fine and good, but Newey seems to have in intuitive grasp of these things, which is why he still uses a drawing board and visualizes things in his mind. That's part of his genius. Another part is that he can then translate those images to the car and they work.
Forza Ferrari.....a new era is almost here......lets gooooooooo
I imagine as the PA was both Neweys and Horners, Newey might have information that RB wouldn't want out to get out of his contract any way he saw fit...
Mark my words. There will always be a new Ferrari hyper car project announced very soon. The RB17 was a shell project for the F1 development to avoid cost cap. 100%
Funny if he signs with Andretti Motor Sport.
Never been earlier and happier
And why would Red Bull agree with Newey can go to another team without gardening leave and take all the IP to another team by creating a replica of RB20?
Because to enable them to do more cheating the cost cap, they dont employ Newey, they hire him in as a contractor. Classic, Christian's only gone and got burned by his own tactics 😂
Because they are holding Horner in a breach of contract!
@@laffinarab actually I doubt that has anything to do with it.. .contractor or employee theres still a contract signed with some very strict stipulations. they just let him go with honor.
the only thing I can think of is RBR being very graceful and thankful to adrian newey and dont want to put him offside for a couple years.. im pretty sure they couldve dragged this out with a prolonged legal battle.
He can’t replicate the RB20. The 2026 car has active aero front and rear so there will be very little carry over i imagine, however he obviously brings the similar philosophy that RB will have learned from Newey. The floor might have some carry over but the 2026 regs are anyone’s guess at the moment.
Maybe Newey's decision is more related to the new cost cap rules coming into effect next year. Wasn't there rumor Newey would have to be allocate to the RB17 project and not the F1 side.
P look it up, but the rb21 has already been designed
The downfall would not be because Newey is leaving Red Bull. It will be when Ford comes in in 2026 and Max leave's Red Bull. Ford is way behind schedule with the new motor and they are not getting the power they need. Max already knows this and knows that Mercedes will have a great motor.
Had to be Zac Brown who said that
If If If Adrian Newey does go to Ferrari, he can design a hypercar and call it the Ferrari Newey V12.
I don't think Ferrari promised a full blue livery. They said there will be "Blue Elements" to their livery in Miami. So yeah. 😊
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He was always going to get out the contract early. He knows where the ghost is buried.....
You would think by now, especially after the end of the investigation into Horner, that the notion will move towards the team principle not being the problem, but rather the person who has no role in the team apart from being the father of a driver and yet is in the center of the drama and unprofessionally adds fuel to the fire with his public statements.
Didn't said father say Wache was more important to the dominance of the redbull than Newey? They should not worry then.
Give Fred a dam statue if he signs Adrian 😂😂😂 bro is thanos atp
All what's left is getting RB Chief strategist the the infinite stones are complete
Sainz must be thinking Red Bull is no longer an attractive team to join, so that leaves Mercedes which would only offer a 1 year contract or Audi with a 3 year contract and a major role to play there.
That means Max could join Mercedes, then Horner would be effectively without a lead driver to join Red Bull.
Driver market is going to explode!🤯
All things must pass. This will be good for the sport.
These last couple of weeks shows u how important the car is in comparison to the driver. Newey news is just as big or even bigger than anybody's at this moment
Jos was jealous cos Horner moved on his side piece, and started the tower tumbling. The man is a fking menace 😅
If I recall rightly, AN was quite chommie with Rory Byrne. Hmmmm.
South African spotted
Makes you wonder what he had as leverage
Anybody else think that Lewis was told Adrian would be coming ? Eddie Jordan saying Adrian might just retire means he has already signed. Gardening leave would be settled easily with £ $ € .
Zach brown said it
It sounds as though Eddie and Adrien had enough of a usable pry bar to dictate his terms for departing. I still think Jos wanted to be the a highly paid consultant of Max Racing Bull.
Ferrari brought him out of his current contract and will be in red in 2025 end off done finished
Lols, the downfall of Redbull can't be pinned wholly on Horney's shoulders, not with so many personalities in the power vacuum!
Plus this makes sense for both sides, he leaves before the work for the 2026 new regulations starts. So RedBull can’t pin him down in terms of being part of the project and the going to work for rivals within that period of time.
Why didn't Adrian Newey just mention Christian Horner as his (former) TP instead of his friend and why didn't he mention Helmut Marko at all. His statement perhaps indicates that he was tired of Helmut Marko and Jos Verstappen ?
I still can't believe it!! What is really going on at redbull to have a rather quiet guy like newey to leave?🤔
Pierre wache has been the brains behind the last few Redbull cars. There's a reason why they locked him down instead of Newey.
he designed the cars since 2022?
no one will remember PW as a designer of RB19 RB20. Maybe you.
There’s a reason why Red Bull are crumbling right before us so they can keep wache lmao
Cry
How does the budget cap fit into all this? The part-time work loophole has been patched. If Ferrari hires him, he will be among the top three personnel and exempt from the cap. But that means somebody high up goes into the cap or is let go. Is Newey working part-time better for the team than this other person who most likely works full-time? Newey might be hired for a short time (2 years) with a lot of money. He gives away all the Red Bull secrets for the 2026 cars, takes in the money, and retires. The team gets a dominant car to win championships with.
He just spent a couple million on a new sailboat. Maybe he'd like to actually use it.
98 was mclaren and hakkenen
No one piece completes a jigsaw puzzle,now watch the engineers bail from RB, Horner has a great deal to learn.
It won't be too far into the future for us to see just how good the Dutch boy is 🙂
Matt from P1 is drooling at the mouth at the prospect of Newey joining Ferrari.
Hamilton and Newey in the same team would be cool to see.
Thankfully Red Bull and Ferrari are my favorites so it would be a win win either way.
The huge Ferrari news of the day...the blue livery is just some stripes...
At this rate, RB might be a midfielder by 2026, especially if their power train project encounters difficulties. And Merc really seem to be going downhill fast. So that leaves Ferrari and McLaren for 2026 title fight? That’d be cool!
seems RB gave him a graceful way out instead of a bitter legal battle.. probably what the man deserves. Kinda doubt neweys lawyers as such made that happen without RBR being very lenient.
RIP Senna ! Watching the movie tonight
He died in a Newey design. So, be careful what you wish for.
Wonder if any of this is "behind the scenes politics" from the FIA, fans not enjoying the races etc. I like all the drivers Interesting to watch the f1 world turn upside down
Ironically I was the biggest critic of vasser..yet Ferrari has done better than I thought.he’s also clawed Hamilton from Mercedes and now possibly newey!!! His persuasion skills must be incredible.so far? Well done mr Fred vasser 👏👏👏👏👏
Don’t know the extent of his contract and non-compete clauses; which could explain the vagueness of “leaving in the first quarter of2025.”
Not sure what countries laws are brought into play in this situation as you have three separate entities in Redbull, F1 and the FIA.
Our government here in the States did the only respectable thing in the last three years and banned non-compete clauses. Would have been great when I was a journalist and didn’t have to move x amount of hundreds of miles/kilometers away to avoid a lawsuit.
That would be a huge disrespect to Lewis if they get Max to be their ambassador!Hopefully Newey will be joining Ferrari and kick Mercedes in their S which Ferrari already did now.
Hmmm Ferrari is cooking
Look, jos brought all this up hoping to get Horner fired
Valkyrie...
Next big news gonna be, "Jos Verstappen to be brought on as interim Team Principal "
Or retire, since he hates 2026 regulations
Can’t help but feel that having the announcement today of all days was a very deliberate, very petty, very Horner way to give Adrian a great big “fuck you” on the way out the door. He was probably too busy failing at driving an F3 car to look beyond his own nose on 30/4-1/5 ‘94. RIP Roland and Ayrton 😢💔
Newey is going with Andretti obviously 😂
Can we focus on the Miami race this weekend, instead of the boring media hype. Thanks.
Just gives Max another reason to join Mercedes, RBR were already leaking important engineers before Newey resigned. F1 2024 has told us anything is possible
LEWIS AND FERRARI DREAM TEAM WHAT A BLINDER FERRARI HAVE PLAYED DEAL SIGNED DONE
Then Max goes to Mercedes and Allison cooks with the W16 while Ferrari manage to fumble the bag in usual Ferrari fashion. People forget Allison has 24 championships across 4 teams (Benetton, Ferrari, Renault, Mercedes) despite not having been around as long as Newey.
@-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.- yes that rgt but Ferrari are already targeting new staff they said they had a huge selling point to lewis and no one new what it was now looks like they new about Newey for a while also they revamping there technology maybe for newey no idea but staff are gonna jump of the redbull team and Mercedes and Ferrari will pick them apart now mate like crows round a dead animal lool no doubt Mercedes and Ferrari will be the leaders in 2026
@@dannybartlett4225 if max does go to Merc he’s likely to bring along some staff from Redbull with him. It would be interesting to see how that plays out for George given Toto is still looking to bring Kimi into the team. I like George but Kimi races under the number 12 which was my old racing number from when I raced motocross so he’s automatically my favorite lol.
@@-._.-._.-Sully-._.-._.- Allison didn't design the Ferrari cars , it was a minor part of Ferrari cars because guys like Aldo Costa and Rory Byrne were the designer , Allison , wasn't Technical director until the Lotus period , the great cars Allison created were the Mercedes W10 and W11 , because the previous one were under Costa design.
@@francescosalvato6612 well your not wrong but I wouldn’t necessarily call head of aerodynamics a minor role when it comes to Formula One car design. In fact it’s one of the more major roles in car design. Now he was deputy technical director when he went to Renault in 2005 but not entirely sure what they meant by deputy as every team calls certain positions different things. People like to give the lead designer most the credit but in a lot of cases that can just involve coming up with the general design and not necessarily involving I’m much of the technical work to make that design something that is actually functional. Either way it takes an entire team.
Edit: had to double check be as far as educational background Allison (degree in aerospace engineering) and Newey (degree in aeronautics and astronautics) are nearly identical. Byrne’s degree was in chemistry and applied mathematics and Costa’s degree was in mechanical engineering. As far as what would be most helpful is designing F1 cars Allison and Newey’s backgrounds would give you a much deeper understanding stuff like fluid dynamics and general car design/layout, where as mechanical engineering would be more towards specific part designs and inter-workings. Chemistry and applied mathematics would take have that much application in car design other than general dimensions.
Only bring this up because while I’ve taken some classes in fluid dynamic physics my degrees are Biomedical sciences/Medicinal Chemistry while my grandfather was a full on aerospace engineer (helped design the Saturn V). Definitely a big difference in in-depth understanding relative to stuff like car design. You can learn some stuff through work experience but the titles given by the teams honestly aren’t the best indicators of their actual understanding and contributions.
Though it’s 80% he is moving to Ferrari. I wouldn’t be surprised to see he’s going to AM.
Red Bull managed to hold on to Newey far longer than any other team. I suspect that was in a large part due to the Mercedes dominance. The challenge of getting to the top probably holds more appeal than staying at the top. He didn't want to leave Red Bull when they were second or third best but he can leave when they are clearly the best. So the first race of 2026 is going to be very exciting. Who knows which team will get it right?
If Red Bull does fall back though and their 2026 car can't compete for the title that could be good news for Danny Ric. Last time he joined them was after four years of dominance, so there's every chance history could repeat.
Not the first time that Ferrari has raced In blue.
This will be Horners last season. Mark my words: this is huge and he’s gonna get a vote of no confidence
Let´s hope so, he ruined RBR by his deeds, big greed for power and character!
@@Alirionhe wanted to be toto sooo bad. The HUBRIS
@@muntublackson4757 looks like it. And Mateschitz knew, WHY he would NOT allow Horner to buy in! I am so sorrry, that Marko has defendet Horner several times towards Mateschitz, who wanted to fire Horner several times. Was a HUGHE mistake made by Marko.
No designer, probably no number 1 driver and rumour has it an arse of an engine, Horners fumble from a position of power is one for the ages 😆