I had my mare and her foal separated by a fence.. Couldn't understand why the mares bags weren't drying up completely..... Then went out super early one morning and Caught... the .....'FOAL" nursing on her.. THRU the fence at ...14 months of age! Seriously... They were both enjoying the moment... :D Had to build another fence along the fence line...
When you let a mare and foal wean naturually and can be very viscious and deadly. I've seen a foal with a broken jaw because mom kicked him when he wouldnt stop. Do you know what happens when a horse breaks their jaw. They have to be put down. Ive seen mares starve their foals. Doing it this way is still horrible and heartbreaking, but you know what. In a couple days they will be just fine and they will be safe. This is not horse abuse on any form of level. So stop all the judgmental crap.
I've watched mares in the wild wean their foals. from what I have seen it's much kinder to just separate the mares and foals then let the mares turn on their foals. sometimes the foals don't understand and mom has to get rather vicious to get her point across
Melissa Walker I understand it looks cruel but she's teaching it to be a better horse. I know we all love the babies but they are horses and we aren't. The baby will be ok
I see people arguing in the comments about weaning foals,as to whether separating them from mares or letting weaning happen naturally is better or not. When someone says naturally it makes me think of wild horses and how the weaning process would go being among a herd of wild horses. There would be a stallion present through the whole process that would want to mate once the mares go back into heat. Would the lead stallion of the herd be aggressive against a foal whom is still attached or feeding a little here and there from it's mom/mare who has gone into heat and ready to breed again?
The foals are so upset.I feel bad for them, and their mothers. Both experienced trauma at the hands of humans. Let mares do their job...like it has always been. Are there really that many deaths to foals who want to hang on alittle longer? We should not interfere. Two sides. It's expensive to lose a foal, right? What is really behind the choices?
It's also a nasty sight to see a mother kick her foal and break it's jaw or end up killing it because the foal wouldn't stop nursing when she's had enough. There is a reason as to why it's done like this, for both the safety of the mare and foal. It's heartbreaking to see but it's better than having to put down a foal.
the 'natural' way youre reffering to usually involves the mare either; Injuring, Killing, or crippling their child because they dont want to be weaned. It's more expensive to lose a foal when you DONT wean them. Weaning them is a necessary process. My mare is very sweet, and loved her foal. But she ended up killing her own filly and herself because she tried to nurse her; the mare kicked the filly's jaw straight through and ended up kicking the fence board of her paddock, and tearing her foot open; she tore multiple ligaments, muscles and even chip her coffin bone. The filly lived for a week but was put down due to complications; she was deteriorating too fast. So yes, there are really deaths to foals who want to hang on a little longer. Youre an idiot.
@@melissazietz1241 Barn witches go nuclear over horses being turned out with halters - although all major Thoroughbred farms keep halters on both mares and foals at all times, plus often collar them as well. Stallions, mares, weanlings, yearlings worth millions of bucks? They keep halters on them. And people handle the horses constantly at those places, from the time they are born onward. Needless to say, barn witches are not allowed or welcome at those farms. They only hire people who have a brain and some common sense.
@@DoubleDogDare54 You mean people who don't have a clue. Those race barns get lots of staff injuries. Gee I wonder why that's the case? Also if a halter is left on, the horse can get stuck and possibly die from it.
@@vampirealien2468 Halters only cause problems if the environment the horse is being kept in is unsafe to start with. And we are talking stallions, mares and foals worth millions of dollars on those TB farms. And they ALL wear halters 24/7/365. With the really expensive, famous horses, any death amongst them is reported on racing websites, the cause given. I have never read a report where a horse got hung up by the halter and died as a result.
This is Normandy Farm, K9, not some dude ranch. Those were just weaned weanlings and they were crazy and rowdy. The 2 guys walking them out did just fine.
Either those polls are awfully large or the men are short and comparing them to each other I’m convinced they’re short. LOL no offense not trying to be mean just trying to get things in perspective.
You have absolutely no control over your horses. Is that why you leave halters on them cause they can’t be caught? And so they’ll break a leg possibly?
GalaxiiWolf Animations. Who knows more about horses, Nature or men? Mares show us how horses were designed to raise their young. Men interjecting themselves is interference, and horses are not better for it. The best teachers of horses are horses, not men. To say otherwise is hubris, arrogance and ignorance.
@@cacatr4495 While I don't believe that horses are in any way shape or form more intelligent than humans, I do think by and large mares are better mothers to foals than humans are, and can wean their foals just fine on their own. The only reason I can think of for taking away a healthy foal from a healthy mare is to be able to breed her again faster. That's not always the best thing either.
When a mare weans "naturally" she doesn't put a sippy cup of juice down in front of her young man or lady and tell them they are a big boy now and must act like it - many times she attacks her ex-foal and can injure them severely. It's one of those things that sound great if you don't know what you are talking about but reality is a bitch.
This is just cruelty plaine and simple. Shame on you people for separating mares and foals. Mares can wean and teach foals without human intervention. What's next for the foals? Imprinting. Shame on you people absolute shame.
@@Lauren-vd4qe Do you think they get separated in the wild? No they don't the mother naturally weans them. Also it has been proven that range raised horses tend to be better adjusted than imprinted or stable raised horses.
@@vampirealien2468 i was great friends with a neighbor who bred horses and i was always at his place; i watched how he weaned the foals; was the same; separate them first through a fence once the foals are eating grass hay and grain. was no problem at all.
GalaxiiWolf Animations horses aren't soft and don't say feed off me till you're 5 or more nature and mom would fix it when she's out of milk. All mares know when to wean their young. Maybe you need a little bit understanding of horses and how they teach their young without involvement from humans. So don't try cracking down on me
A lot of the time when a mama horse isn’t impregnated again she won’t kick her baby out. She will let the baby drink until it is around 1-2 years old which can cause real problems for mama.
They have to be separated at some point if they are going to be used for anything. 6 months is too early but I think groundwork should be put in place at a year. Although the horse I may be getting no longer lives off milk, she still has never been taken from her mother and she still can't be taken off of her mother without a fight.
The babysitter horse is like "why me"? 😂
I had my mare and her foal separated by a fence.. Couldn't understand why the mares bags weren't drying up completely..... Then went out super early one morning and Caught... the .....'FOAL" nursing on her.. THRU the fence at ...14 months of age! Seriously... They were both enjoying the moment... :D Had to build another fence along the fence line...
Wouldn't the mare be weaning the foal by herself?! 🤔😯
@@fasterandsmarter yes
When you let a mare and foal wean naturually and can be very viscious and deadly. I've seen a foal with a broken jaw because mom kicked him when he wouldnt stop. Do you know what happens when a horse breaks their jaw. They have to be put down. Ive seen mares starve their foals. Doing it this way is still horrible and heartbreaking, but you know what. In a couple days they will be just fine and they will be safe. This is not horse abuse on any form of level. So stop all the judgmental crap.
AMEN. unless you know horses and what can happen stfu.
Then why not just separate then when she starts to show signs she wants to wean naturally
I've watched mares in the wild wean their foals. from what I have seen it's much kinder to just separate the mares and foals then let the mares turn on their foals. sometimes the foals don't understand and mom has to get rather vicious to get her point across
Melissa Walker. It's not cruel it's natural and nature's way.
Melissa Walker I understand it looks cruel but she's teaching it to be a better horse. I know we all love the babies but they are horses and we aren't. The baby will be ok
Not going to starve, but they will miss the momma.
@@kimberley1449 It IS cruel. Nature is cruel. Just because something is "natural" doesn't make it good or kind or even best. It simply...is.
Kimberley Gager can’t teach it to be a better horse if the foal is kicked in the jaw and has to be put down
Beautiful foals
babysitter gelding?
I see people arguing in the comments about weaning foals,as to whether separating them from mares or letting weaning happen naturally is better or not. When someone says naturally it makes me think of wild horses and how the weaning process would go being among a herd of wild horses. There would be a stallion present through the whole process that would want to mate once the mares go back into heat. Would the lead stallion of the herd be aggressive against a foal whom is still attached or feeding a little here and there from it's mom/mare who has gone into heat and ready to breed again?
Nice babysitter mare.
I worked at Darby Dan Farms and I remember when we weaned the foals.
The foals are so upset.I feel bad for them, and their mothers. Both experienced trauma at the hands of humans. Let mares do their job...like it has always been. Are there really that many deaths to foals who want to hang on alittle longer? We should not interfere. Two sides. It's expensive to lose a foal, right? What is really behind the choices?
It's also a nasty sight to see a mother kick her foal and break it's jaw or end up killing it because the foal wouldn't stop nursing when she's had enough. There is a reason as to why it's done like this, for both the safety of the mare and foal. It's heartbreaking to see but it's better than having to put down a foal.
the 'natural' way youre reffering to usually involves the mare either; Injuring, Killing, or crippling their child because they dont want to be weaned.
It's more expensive to lose a foal when you DONT wean them. Weaning them is a necessary process.
My mare is very sweet, and loved her foal. But she ended up killing her own filly and herself because she tried to nurse her; the mare kicked the filly's jaw straight through and ended up kicking the fence board of her paddock, and tearing her foot open; she tore multiple ligaments, muscles and even chip her coffin bone.
The filly lived for a week but was put down due to complications; she was deteriorating too fast.
So yes, there are really deaths to foals who want to hang on a little longer. Youre an idiot.
Sad tho
Calling all barn witches. Horses with halters AND people touching them.
What's wrong with that?
@@melissazietz1241 Barn witches go nuclear over horses being turned out with halters - although all major Thoroughbred farms keep halters on both mares and foals at all times, plus often collar them as well. Stallions, mares, weanlings, yearlings worth millions of bucks? They keep halters on them. And people handle the horses constantly at those places, from the time they are born onward. Needless to say, barn witches are not allowed or welcome at those farms. They only hire people who have a brain and some common sense.
@@DoubleDogDare54 You mean people who don't have a clue. Those race barns get lots of staff injuries. Gee I wonder why that's the case? Also if a halter is left on, the horse can get stuck and possibly die from it.
@@vampirealien2468 Halters only cause problems if the environment the horse is being kept in is unsafe to start with. And we are talking stallions, mares and foals worth millions of dollars on those TB farms. And they ALL wear halters 24/7/365. With the really expensive, famous horses, any death amongst them is reported on racing websites, the cause given. I have never read a report where a horse got hung up by the halter and died as a result.
Mare prbly thinks 'What a Kindergarten'.
the 2 guys walking the babys out dont no how to handle a horse
This is Normandy Farm, K9, not some dude ranch. Those were just weaned weanlings and they were crazy and rowdy. The 2 guys walking them out did just fine.
haha its not their fault, the people who have been handling the horse its entire life dont know how to handle a horse.
k95831 They might've been new and we're learning how to properly thats why the person holding the camera was giving direction
Either those polls are awfully large or the men are short and comparing them to each other I’m convinced they’re short. LOL no offense not trying to be mean just trying to get things in perspective.
You have absolutely no control over your horses. Is that why you leave halters on them cause they can’t be caught? And so they’ll break a leg possibly?
poor sods
That is not how it works. Mama horse knows best not you.
Anime- Kun Looks like someone dosnt know a thing about horses :)
How did Nature ever get along without all our impositions?
GalaxiiWolf Animations.
Who knows more about horses, Nature or men? Mares show us how horses were designed to raise their young. Men interjecting themselves is interference, and horses are not better for it. The best teachers of horses are horses, not men. To say otherwise is hubris, arrogance and ignorance.
CA Catr The fact you even have to say this ....
@@cacatr4495 While I don't believe that horses are in any way shape or form more intelligent than humans, I do think by and large mares are better mothers to foals than humans are, and can wean their foals just fine on their own. The only reason I can think of for taking away a healthy foal from a healthy mare is to be able to breed her again faster. That's not always the best thing either.
This seems mean. Mares wean their foals themselves.
It really depends on the mare, I rescued a mare and her yearling and she still let him nurse. So..
not mean at all. 5 yr old kids go to kindergarten! it that mean?
Bad. Why not let mom wean him naturally. Humans always know best. Mean mean mean
Ant m sometimes mares do not separate the foal from herself, which can cause issues to her and the foal.
You want to see mean? Watch what a mare does to "naturally" wean her foal....
When a mare weans "naturally" she doesn't put a sippy cup of juice down in front of her young man or lady and tell them they are a big boy now and must act like it - many times she attacks her ex-foal and can injure them severely. It's one of those things that sound great if you don't know what you are talking about but reality is a bitch.
This is just cruelty plaine and simple. Shame on you people for separating mares and foals. Mares can wean and teach foals without human intervention. What's next for the foals? Imprinting. Shame on you people absolute shame.
have u ever bred horses? dont think so!
@@Lauren-vd4qe Do you think they get separated in the wild? No they don't the mother naturally weans them. Also it has been proven that range raised horses tend to be better adjusted than imprinted or stable raised horses.
@@vampirealien2468 i see you didnt answer the question.
@@Lauren-vd4qe Well have you?
@@vampirealien2468 i was great friends with a neighbor who bred horses and i was always at his place; i watched how he weaned the foals; was the same; separate them first through a fence once the foals are eating grass hay and grain. was no problem at all.
Oh look - more people who shouldn't own horses.
Cruelty to animals is what this is. Horse's know when to wean
GalaxiiWolf Animations. This is up to the horse and that is no 3year old
GalaxiiWolf Animations horses aren't soft and don't say feed off me till you're 5 or more nature and mom would fix it when she's out of milk. All mares know when to wean their young. Maybe you need a little bit understanding of horses and how they teach their young without involvement from humans. So don't try cracking down on me
We let our mama horse n baby do it themselves. Forcefully doing it isn't right
A lot of the time when a mama horse isn’t impregnated again she won’t kick her baby out. She will let the baby drink until it is around 1-2 years old which can cause real problems for mama.
They have to be separated at some point if they are going to be used for anything. 6 months is too early but I think groundwork should be put in place at a year. Although the horse I may be getting no longer lives off milk, she still has never been taken from her mother and she still can't be taken off of her mother without a fight.