All engineered crafts are mental and physical compromises of what a skilled man can do, both from the structural engineering side and the operational side. The engineer who designed, chose the materials, and built that boat, knew exactly what was needed for him to continuously save the lives of the crew, both in calm and stormy conditions and the same applies to aircraft /car/bridges/domestic/industrial/medical/surgical/ art, military, religious, etc engineering. The ship's master does not seem to be conversant with the PID control ( and acceleration control) we use in automatic control engineering and is letting the craft oscillate continuously with marginal stability with the wave using only positional feedback to the rudder which is rather a delayed control system. If he used derivative feedback he could have kept that craft going straight but would impose greater pressures on the rudder. He is a wise person. I feel that the boat is a little overloaded with not too much reserve buoyancy. It is well designed to control the broaching action/reaction, and the buoyancy at the transom has less buoyancy compared with that at the bows which seem to be ample to stop the nose digging and build up lateral resistance, which is something one does not want when navigating in a flowing sea as shown in this video. The use of the scuppers in such a situation is imperative not to build too much water on deck. I think that I would have raised the working deck a little higher but retaining the self-righting action of such boats. What we see in this video is great teamwork by engineers and shipmasters. The scuppers could have a flapper to act as one-way valves. There is not much, operational pilots and shipmasters, and many other modern professions, including the religions, philosophies, artists, medical field, the law, domestic and industrial work, Armies, Navies, Airforces, politics, can do without the intelligence and guaranteed working products of engineers. There are not many service and vociferous professions which guarantee their work as engineers do. If any operator exceeds the structural and operational integrity of what engineers provide for them, there is nothing much they can do on their own apart from...........praying. Many people are proud to be able to buy and own and operate what engineers build. One must look at engineers as being the profession that provides handicapped people with all sort of prostheses for those with missing abilities as pilots without wings, sea masters without flutes who cannot cross oceans on their own, X- rays and MRI and ventilators and surgical tools for the medical field and all that comfortable devices we find in and outside our home. Most modern people are born handicapped in that they cannot do what they want under their own steam and so they need engineering prostheses to be able to do it. th-cam.com/video/aMknOn_871U/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3jA0CscY1YU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/0bA0NAEqPcQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/-Yr4ZIc47Pw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Kzxf3n3KxXM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/BEZMaTKRPVU/w-d-xo.html MIsuse of engineering............ th-cam.com/video/y4Xs_G9tdSw/w-d-xo.html
With the displacement he was making, I doubt his engines have the grunt to do what you're talking about. Semi-displacing hulls, such as cruisers, may be able to do that, but not a full displacement boat like that. You can see both the hull form and engine operation in the bow wave throughout the clip - all that water pushing vertical is the displacement of water around the hull. You can't surge power on a vessel that displaces like that - not in the sense of cruising between the waves. All a displacement hull skipper can do is maintain angles, like he did in this clip. And you can see from the stern motion that the forces that skipper was fighting were enormous, yet the boat never left base course (sure it was yawing, but that skippers excellent seamanship and coxn abilities were amply demonstrated that he maintained the course even with the yawing)!
Ebb tide? Flood? Looking at the shore the tide looked high/slack. Google Maps shows the harbor is the mouth of a river. The Greymouth River? River mouths are always a tricky passage. The bar is created by silt settling out of the river. The shallows push up the ocean swells into formidable waves sometimes, depending on the strength of the current.The Columbia River bar in Oregon is notorious. Outside the Golden Gate in San Francisco is a bar called the Potato Patch. Small craft are advised to stay out of it at all times.
At this time the Grey river was in flood and the fishing boats can only go in or out to the Greymouth Port at high tide or in coming tides as its shallow ,but with the river being in flood makes it very dangerous coming in or out with the flooded Grey river coming down pushing against the incoming tide, the Bar has taken many lives and boats over the years.
That boat looks loaded. And what is more she is loaded at the back so that the back coming waves will not broach her. She did well, but really that sea is not so bad.
Oh yes it is and it is often exponentially worse. The under current on that bar is treacherous. Add into that the changing tide and high river water and yet shallow bar, things can get out of control very quickly. This footage shows just how an experienced skipper can make crossing that dangerous water look easy. It isn't. I've been across it.
Looks almost as though he throttles up when the stern is lifted by a wave, and then throttles back, perhaps even put the trans in N as the stern settles in a trough. To protect the prop perhaps? Boat makes very little headway when in the trough, almost none in fact. And then pushes a lot when surfing. Nicely done. Love to know how much water is under his keel in those troughs.
@@ysesq, the Bar is shallow and the boats can only come in or out on incoming and high tides. with the Grey River in flood pushing against the incoming tide can make it quite dangerous and the Bar has taken many boats and lives over the years.
That is dangerous she's a half decker one of them waves could fill her you'd need good working pumps on board anyway.And a few paling buckets for back up.
Not hard at all! Try doing that with a Sygmond Hull loaded to the 7th barrel berm! Then you know a thing or two. This was Chetsmith markum** Easy as a Sunday milk bath! You don’t know mate, and don’t try to ply my waterline dry.
they are also pushing into the flooded Greymouth River which forms part of the harbor mouth.which is also flowing into the sea and pushing against the incoming tide.
I took the videos and photos, I am the copyright owner of my photos and my videos.unless he was paying me to take the photos or videos for him,then he has nothing really to do with it.
Quite frankly I think the boat would have handled better if the captain had given her a bit more throttle. Wallowing in the waves tends to lead to less directional stability whereas maintaining the same speed of the wave can keep you out of the trough and more directional stable. Admittedly there is a fine line between too fast and too slow but I think he erred a bit on the too slow side?
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Great Video Brian, This is one of my favourite spots, thanks for sharing
no problem, a bit of excitement when it's rough, but these guys know how to handle their boats. :)
There is no feeling like surfing along on a following sea, Pure exhilaration 😁
yeah .and seeing that bloody great wave rolling up ya ass ... lol
Pretty good skipper there.. id go to sea with him... kept his speed & direction .. kudos from Australia 🇦🇺
You can tell she’s loaded down, nice weather and good crossing ..
Very good boat handling, well ballasted, good speed and timing of the swells.
Almost like hes done it before!!
Almost a million views 😀 You deserve it, keep it up!
All engineered crafts are mental and physical compromises of what a skilled man can do, both from the structural engineering side and the operational side. The engineer who designed, chose the materials, and built that boat, knew exactly what was needed for him to continuously save the lives of the crew, both in calm and stormy conditions and the same applies to aircraft /car/bridges/domestic/industrial/medical/surgical/ art, military, religious, etc engineering. The ship's master does not seem to be conversant with the PID control ( and acceleration control) we use in automatic control engineering and is letting the craft oscillate continuously with marginal stability with the wave using only positional feedback to the rudder which is rather a delayed control system. If he used derivative feedback he could have kept that craft going straight but would impose greater pressures on the rudder. He is a wise person.
I feel that the boat is a little overloaded with not too much reserve buoyancy. It is well designed to control the broaching action/reaction, and the buoyancy at the transom has less buoyancy compared with that at the bows which seem to be ample to stop the nose digging and build up lateral resistance, which is something one does not want when navigating in a flowing sea as shown in this video. The use of the scuppers in such a situation is imperative not to build too much water on deck. I think that I would have raised the working deck a little higher but retaining the self-righting action of such boats. What we see in this video is great teamwork by engineers and shipmasters. The scuppers could have a flapper to act as one-way valves.
There is not much, operational pilots and shipmasters, and many other modern professions, including the religions, philosophies, artists, medical field, the law, domestic and industrial work, Armies, Navies, Airforces, politics, can do without the intelligence and guaranteed working products of engineers. There are not many service and vociferous professions which guarantee their work as engineers do. If any operator exceeds the structural and operational integrity of what engineers provide for them, there is nothing much they can do on their own apart from...........praying. Many people are proud to be able to buy and own and operate what engineers build. One must look at engineers as being the profession that provides handicapped people with all sort of prostheses for those with missing abilities as pilots without wings, sea masters without flutes who cannot cross oceans on their own, X- rays and MRI and ventilators and surgical tools for the medical field and all that comfortable devices we find in and outside our home. Most modern people are born handicapped in that they cannot do what they want under their own steam and so they need engineering prostheses to be able to do it.
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With the displacement he was making, I doubt his engines have the grunt to do what you're talking about. Semi-displacing hulls, such as cruisers, may be able to do that, but not a full displacement boat like that. You can see both the hull form and engine operation in the bow wave throughout the clip - all that water pushing vertical is the displacement of water around the hull. You can't surge power on a vessel that displaces like that - not in the sense of cruising between the waves. All a displacement hull skipper can do is maintain angles, like he did in this clip. And you can see from the stern motion that the forces that skipper was fighting were enormous, yet the boat never left base course (sure it was yawing, but that skippers excellent seamanship and coxn abilities were amply demonstrated that he maintained the course even with the yawing)!
I'm seriously amazed boats float let alone navigate storms and such. Wish my capacity to comprehend the engineering was better,
Hell of a captain,its no joke crossing the bar.
In the end aren’t most of us BJ Hunters?
Haaa, haaaaaaa
That was a mouthful
Ebb tide? Flood? Looking at the shore the tide looked high/slack. Google Maps shows the harbor is the mouth of a river. The Greymouth River? River mouths are always a tricky passage. The bar is created by silt settling out of the river. The shallows push up the ocean swells into formidable waves sometimes, depending on the strength of the current.The Columbia River bar in Oregon is notorious. Outside the Golden Gate in San Francisco is a bar called the Potato Patch. Small craft are advised to stay out of it at all times.
At this time the Grey river was in flood and the fishing boats can only go in or out to the Greymouth Port at high tide or in coming tides as its shallow ,but with the river being in flood makes it very dangerous coming in or out with the flooded Grey river coming down pushing against the incoming tide, the Bar has taken many lives and boats over the years.
Brian Hunter Thank you.
He can actually stay between the two waves but seems he is using the waves to push him forward to save gas 😄. Very clever 👍
Looks so easy when its done as skilfully as that.
You mean slow and steady, a two year old could do that crossing.
@@rickpetersen41 yeah that’s why so many people have lost their life’s crossing this bar
I have been fishing on that one for 3 months. That time it had different colors black hull Thornton fishing company
More like Surfin' ! Super boat , handled it well . Wales UK
Same principle as marriage. Keep a cool head, be patient; stay a float. Do not rush.
Set your engines to full throttle and escape
@@wompbozer3939 You are not a seaman.
Essard Audinett I’m a first mate and I’ve got a goddam ARMADA bud.
Galatea was the goddess of calm seas. Goddesses (and gods) are known to be capricious.
Well built vessel,she's a beauty.
I remember those days. I had a smaller boat and it was always exciting. My wife thought I was crazy.
That boat looks loaded. And what is more she is loaded at the back so that the back coming waves will not broach her.
She did well, but really that sea is not so bad.
Oh yes it is and it is often exponentially worse. The under current on that bar is treacherous. Add into that the changing tide and high river water and yet shallow bar, things can get out of control very quickly. This footage shows just how an experienced skipper can make crossing that dangerous water look easy. It isn't. I've been across it.
Dangerous line of work.
Thanks for this video.Love watching it.
That’s nothing. I sailed around the world on my pool chair. It was a little cold going around the Horn.
🤣 Said like Brick Tamland...”Good one!”
Very nice footage.
thankyou Skeggi, maybe you might like to check out other photos and videos of mine, the link is below. Cheers.
A following sea
YUCK I've been there, on Lake Ontario inlets
Great boat handling.
One of the less stressful crossings of the Greymouth Bar.
Bringing the boys home safely and loaded
Like watching a beautiful dance! Thank You!
One hellavo CAPTAIN!!!
Haulover Inlet had nothing on this.
takin it slow, maybe near half ahead boat tracks well too, rudders are the key
Looks almost as though he throttles up when the stern is lifted by a wave, and then throttles back, perhaps even put the trans in N as the stern settles in a trough. To protect the prop perhaps? Boat makes very little headway when in the trough, almost none in fact. And then pushes a lot when surfing. Nicely done. Love to know how much water is under his keel in those troughs.
its wave surfing. its used to prevent green water which is heavy from coming over the bow and sinking the boat.
@@ysesq, the Bar is shallow and the boats can only come in or out on incoming and high tides. with the Grey River in flood pushing against the incoming tide can make it quite dangerous and the Bar has taken many boats and lives over the years.
Boat is beautiful
Climb on the rocks next time Brian
good one to watch
Great work skip
better him than me. :)
Just a walk in the park Geblanski
She look's pretty stable.
Salute
Nothing worse than coming in against the current and tidal rapids.
Good looking boat. looks able
Home safe tonight!
... 7378 deep draft looking good into harbour
I might be wrong but, at 02:13 it looks like her bow bottomed out.
You could see it at around 54 secs as well.
Balls o’brass, aye!
Suspense...
That is dangerous she's a half decker one of them waves could fill her you'd need good working pumps on board anyway.And a few paling buckets for back up.
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Terrific
like me coming in off lake erie in my 17' deep v.....scary
odell daniel haha i got a 19' century v6 inboard boat that ok you think yo run around eire close to bay?
Not hard at all! Try doing that with a Sygmond Hull loaded to the 7th barrel berm! Then you know a thing or two. This was Chetsmith markum** Easy as a Sunday milk bath! You don’t know mate, and don’t try to ply my waterline dry.
Mate that boat is 150 tonne empty 175 full
Is the tide outgoing? Any reason why they don't come in with the flood tide.
they come in or out on a high tide,as the bar is too shallow otherwise.
Thanks they are pushing a strong tide can't be very deep water.
they are also pushing into the flooded Greymouth River which forms part of the harbor mouth.which is also flowing into the sea and pushing against the incoming tide.
I have crossed this bar a few times and yes, bar at low tide is too shallow. A lot of what is mistaken as run out tide is actually backwash.
2:12 Looks like she briefly grounded the bottom as the bow comes down then stops slightly.
wow amazing you could see the roof of the pilot house shudder, do you suppose structural damage.
YES , I see what you mean , a definate STOP ! Wales UK
Bloke on the stern , coiling , like "it's no big deal .........."
probably waiting for the next wave to take it through they can omly cross on high tide otherwise too shallow. :)
I don't think they had any damage the boats still running today. :)
Rubber ducky in the tub.
No fuss there but I bet it's not always plain sailing.
does the owner of the boat know that you copyrighted images of his boat?
I took the videos and photos, I am the copyright owner of my photos and my videos.unless he was paying me to take the photos or videos for him,then he has nothing really to do with it.
This is only a small day
Beautiful boat. How big is she??
i don't know the length i will see if i can find out :)
How'd u go with the boat dimensions Nugget Hunter??
sorry i haven't had a chance to catch up with the owner yet due to serious family illness. but will do..cheers.
i have now found out length is 26 mtrs ...Draught 2.61 mtrs.
86ft
How deep is the water in that inlet.
Grey port depth is about 10 meters used to have a seal in there to
the bar itself? 3 meters.
What... that wasn't so bad.
WTF would you know?
do you have agency in Indonesia
@@brianhunter1951 I work experience on ships like sewing nets
What’s in public doesn’t need permission to film
yep that's the one. :)
Poultry in motion
I didn't see any chickens.
Wow
Nice boat .
I want to catch the fish they are using as a hat ...
😎😎
This man is all about hanging out with some beefcakes
Needs more power in my opinion looks heavy and slow
nice boat but i would have gone across in my trailer sailor
Pakner. Fpjwhite
Am I the only one who thinks that fishing boat is underpowered?
Yes
Balls
Beginners luck
we should crew that with russian seamen,be much more exciting
Quite frankly I think the boat would have handled better if the captain had given her a bit more throttle. Wallowing in the waves tends to lead to less directional stability whereas maintaining the same speed of the wave can keep you out of the trough and more directional stable. Admittedly there is a fine line between too fast and too slow but I think he erred a bit on the too slow side?
When you watch this, it looks as if those rocks are just feet away.
the rocks are not very far away but I think at that time that was the deepest part ,it has since been dredged
Cause he zooms in so much. It messes with the eyes, ...
Underwhelmed
Arfa9
lol BJ
What's the big deal!!? Any canoeist can get through that.
Come on to the west coast give it a go
Yep many idiots have thought that,this has taken some of the best let alone idiots...
A bigger engine and it would just breeze through.
you would think an "artist" could take better pictures ...
well just be grateful i managed to get what i did otherwise you wouldn't be watching it.
You are zooming in too much!!!. Frustrating!!!
nowhere do i claim to be any professional. be grateful i did what i did. :)
The plastic boys of Miami take note.