I believe he's a fan (watched a stream with him and Westie whilst they were talking about the championship deciding race with the whole "No Mikey no, it's not right"). Can't believe he went Merc though, always thought of him as a McLaren fan!
They better also send him some solar panels or something because with the current energy prices running that thing will cost an arm and a leg every few months. :D
You do understand that there's nothing about VR that changes which rasterization performance versus traditional games right? You'd be seeing very comparable gains.
@@StrengthScholar0 its basically impossible to run VR at native res 90-120fps. id like to see how the 4090 handles high refresh rate native res on headsets made past 2019
What im most impressed with are those gpu speeds. My goodness, nearly 3ghz in some cases and the temps are so dang low. Amazing. I wont be upgrading for another few years but im excited to see what even the 50 series will bring when I'm ready to change.
@@Flameb0 Lmao you really didn't just say that, don't know a single person who doesn't care what their pc looks like. That the same as saying "It's just a car, who gives af how it looks"
Clock speeds don't mean that much it depends on the gpu architecture a gpu could run at 10ghz but have a low IPC high clock speed is good if the IPC is good
@@isepicworthful If you're buying a 4090, you're most likely gaming on a 2k 160+ hz display or 4k 120+. Its incredibly dumb to buy a 4090 to game on 4k 60. Also, you can get a decent 4k 120 hz+ monitor for around 450 or so
The benchmarks are nice, but actually seeing the game being played and seeing fps is even better let’s people know what to really expect since most people see benchmarks and are like wtf do these numbers even mean 😂
@@neh0c987 What? Its literally the same thing? seeing 60fps as a number vs as gameplay changes nothing as you know its 60fps? sorry im just hella confused at your comment lol
That's weird, because I would much rather be looking at actual benchmark scores so that I can compare the scores of different GPU's across different resolutions and see the relative performance difference between different classes of GPU's.
Just watched JayzTwoCents review. 60-70% uplift over the 3090Ti. This is without any upscaling tech. That's kinda nuts and would be amazing value if the other cards were still launch price (which they aren't). I'll stick with my 3080Ti for now. Let's see what AMD has up their sleeve come November.
@@def-po8tu I mean the fact that it’s going to draw way more power and then you gotta probably upgrade your psu and case to have it fit on top of the cost. I mean all and has to do is get close enough, which they have been. If the flu is 1500 and I need a new case and psu it’s more like 2000 + the electricity bill per month.
What I love about the 4090 is it allows me to power limit it to 60% and run completely silently at low temps while still maxing out every game on my 1440p ultrawide OLED monitor. Gaming nirvana.
This is similar to what I used to do with my 2080 super a few years ago. I was fine with 1080p gaming at 60fps. So I’d keep it locked at that and let the GPU run cool and silent and stay healthy for longer.
@@DenzilPeters Is that what they call under voltage a graphics card and if i have zero know how should I just let the local pc shop do it for me❓🤔 Thanks for any advice 👍
@@SoUtHMeMpHis Ye limiting power (in msi afterburner for example) does drop the clock speed a bit on the GPU and also significantly reduces voltage consumed and in turn makes the GPU work MUCH cooler. Sometimes people like to cut down voltage and increase overclock to push gpus to max. I limited power on my laptop rtx 3070 to like 60% and enjoy it.
4090 is the only GPU that let me get 140+fps on Cyberpunk 2077 in 4k with mixed settings. Absolute monster of a GPU. Not regretting my purchase one bit.
Good to know. What cpu you recommend if I have the 4090 and working on my build now? I’m hearing 13600k? 13700k i7? O play warzone and want 4k or 1440 high fps. Thanks.
Just imagine if the companies updated the plasma tvs with either the latest display port or HDMI version capable of high bandwidth to support 500hz refresh rate to support 500+ fps games.
@@jasonjenkinson2049 I admit going from 60hz to 144hz was eye popping, but I find myself wanting more, and went for 240hz, while the returns was not as much as coming from 60 to 144, I still saw major advantage for my personal reflexes. I agree going to 500hz might actually be imperceptible, but stiill I'm curious.
Well. 600 fps. Everyone needs that... Actually, if you run intense VR apps, it might be pretty useful to help keep up and maintain decent framerate, buffer size for clarity, and in-game detail. But I'll wait for the 50 series.
Your DLSS setting in Cyberpunk was set to performance which lowers the resolution pretty far. Wonder what it would've been like on the quality setting. Probably still ridiculously fast ;)
Nice,but everytime you want to test out graphic settings,it is better to restart the game after changes,sometimes even tho the game doesn't ask you to do it,some textures and effects remain and will only take affect after restart ;)
Why do you use a screen refresh rate of 60 hz on Bf 2042, overwatch, warzone and valorant when that basically caps the experienced fps to 60? Sometimes switching resolutions around defaults the settings on some monitors so that you have to reenable 144hz / 240Hz in nvidia control panel. Did that happen to you by any chance or was it intentional?
All the reviews I've seen have said that unless you're heavily into 4K 120+ FPS gaming with every last bell and whistle enabled, this is severe overkill. Of course, some people need the Shiny New Thing, and some other people don't feel whole unless their forum signature has higher numbers than everyone else's.
Pretty rad. I might get one eventually. But I’ve had a 3090 for the last 2 years, so obviously I’m not stressing at all right now. I can basically play any game in existence, maxed out at 4k with RT, at 60-100fps. But always fun to experience more! 😊
@@bigben9056 There is litterly 0 difference in visual quality between native 4k and 4k dlss. I however do agree that running a game at native 4k with rt and 60+ fps is much more impressive than running a game with the same settings and resolution with dlss. Dlss (even dlss 3) is a really great feature, so why hate on it? A 3090 can play almost any game at native 4k 60 fps with rt. There are some exceptions. With a 4090 there are no exceptions and you can play almost any game at 4k rt with high refresh rate (120+fps)
@@luukherfst1209 at 1440p it's perceptible, and it depends on the game how good it looks. In Horizon Zero Dawn (and most other games), I like native better, and fortunately can run it pretty well. DLSS takes the "photorealistic" fine details and glosses them over in exchange for marginal performance gains, which makes the world feel less crisp and tangible. In Hogwarts Legacy however, DLSS upscaling with subtle sharpening almost looks better than native at times. At native, the finer details sometimes feel slightly "washed out", despite actually being full resolution. Also, unlike Horizon, DLSS makes a very noticeable difference in FPS here, even on Quality Mode.
@@Mike-kt4qh i have a 1660 and I am able to count the pixels in my vr glasses if i concentrate on them. I don’t think that a 3090/4090 is making a huge difference 🤷🏻♂️
My RTX 4090 arrives tomorrow. I am so excited I can't stand it! I also have to work the next two days so I can't even start my new build for a couple days. :( It's also worth mentioning that my current build is having a hard time simply playing this TH-cam video in 4k/60fps. This is going to be such an upgrade!
@@gazzy9136 Just unoptimized at the current stage. Its not a game you are supposed to play seriously, but to test the tech and development-progression.
Crazy graphics card, but you'd also have to be crazy to buy one, with that price, and not knowing what the 4080 and the 4070 (that for some reason is called the rtx 4080 12gb) will offer in terms of performance numbers.
@@Stardomplay Definitely! I never thought a card could be $1699 and literally worth every penny due to it's monstrous performance. Since the lowest i will acceptably play a game on pc is 1080p 60fps this is a card that would make me be futureproofed for a decade.
@@lindugger4781 Except it only has display port 1.4, 4k high refresh needs higher XD Wtf
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I get that people play with 4K but is jackfrags really playing with a 60hz monitor (I am assuming, because I saw the hz cap in BF)? The refresh rate is hugely more important if you have a cabable PC than the resolution. It is crazy how the games look when you have Gsync on with a 240hz display!
PERFORMANCE DLSS... nice. Upscalers really don't look that good man. 4K native is what I would want out of that price tag. In a few generations I suppose.
Until 4K 240Hz OLEDs come out I am not really hyped to upgrade. I feel like everything runs smooth enough on my current setup at 4K 144Hz, but it is cool to see graphics cards that might be able to max out our current monitor tech finally.
When your buying extreme performance cards like these 4090 cards it's not about price...thats not the reason your buying...it's purely performance only, with all the bells and whistles turned on. There's no piont AMD making a slower highest end card minus the new features found on these 4 series cards just to be a hundred quid cheaper...might as well pay the extra hundred and have the faster card with all the new feature sets.
Nice to see you getting sponsorship. Hope they actualy give it to you and not just borrowed it. Your content is solid and highly rewarchable. Your a likable and relatable youtube. Nice to see you tubers loke your self get some focus from the higher tier manufacturers
In warzone with my 3080Ti optimized I’m getting 225-250 on normal settings and game looks amazing. 4090 not really worth the extra cost. I’ll wait a generation and see huge gains.
Definitely enjoy this "active play Benchmark" 😁 and thank you for mainly focusing on 4k gaming which a lot of typical youtubers arent for some reason 🙏🏾
Part of me wonders if Nvidia made you play the games in performance mode… I usually play on DLSS quality mode because the visual fidelity is much higher. Obviously the frame gains are less
@@sigmamale4147well, without dlss you get high frame rate too, the 4090 is a beast even in rasterization, 200+ fps w/o dlss in competitive games, i do about 90 fps in 4k ultra settings without dlss or frame gen in cyberpunk, it's a high frame rate with high detail
@@FluePeak They are different things but if your running at high frame rates at a much lower refresh rate your only perceiving what ever the refresh rate is. Basically meaning that the FPS isn't doing anything for you.
@@thesupreme8062 See other reviews, 4090 can do high refresh rate (144 fps) at 4k ultra settings without upscaling in most games. Warzone and doom were at native in this video as well.
DLSS 3 IS the frame generation. DLSS 2 is the upscaler. DLSS 3/frame generation can do wonders for smoothing out stuttering frame rates and be great for single player games, but never use it in a multiplayer/competitive game, as it will increase your response time noticeably
Rich people getting free stuff... its a wierd world we live in but that's reality, Just wait until the price collapses 6 months from now.. Just like it happened with the 3090ti MSRP
Clearly a monster of power! 4k/144 without compromise! a first for years! just divine! ;) finally have perpetuated the 4k without concession in the world of PC video games, FINALLY, thank you NVIDIA FOR THIS JEWEL
@@prodical666 He may be playing on a 60hz display since he's testing the rig. May be playing on a spare monitor. Either way, it doesn't impact what the game is running at. You can only cap the frames by setting the limit or vsync. Setting the display's refresh rate doesn't change that.
I'm happy with my 6800 xt overclocked and undervolted, cheaper and better power consumption for the same or better performance, I might have lucked out on the silicon lottery though, also dlss would be nice, I get about 21200 in timespy which is good for bragging rights lol
@@junovrt I've got a 5800x in eco mode, but goes upto 4.9ghz (single core), my 6800xt is at 2600mhz, the gddr is at 2120mhz (fast timings), ram is cl16 1733 I forgot to mention that it's at 1070mv
@@daniellucas6325 Oh, at 1:35 it looks like the in-game refresh rate slider maxes out at 59 hz. Thats what I was going by. I'm guessing that's overridden if your monitor's refresh rate is higher?
Looks lovely but I'm sure I'm noticing screen tearing during the first few clips, which I don't normally notice on your vids... did u notice this while playing, is there an easy fix?
he probably uncapped the frame rate for testing, if you cap the framerate to the monitor's frame rate the tearing will go if the frame rate stays at the cap
Not even mentioning how DLSS Frame Generation literally doubles input latency - if you can't feel that much of a difference, are you even playing the game? Great review, I guess
csgo on competitive settings would run 1k fps but because of source engine 800+ frames starts to make you stutter. Locking it at 500-750 fps competitive settings would be nuts
Pretty insane! I'll have to wait on that 4k series. 3080ti I have still holds pretty strong. Really excited for that Requiem though! Jackfrags, great vid as usual!
@@IceStoneWhiskey you live alone or do you live with your parents. I'm trying to build a pc and want to gage how long it's gonna take me to save up. I'm thinking of going for a RX 6600.
Oh man I try not to be envious but I can't help it! I am still stuck with a GTX680 and my god any FPS above 30 I get for most modern games right now is a godsend.
@@AlluzHHA gpu so powerful that it gets bottlenecked at 1440p ultra settings in a lot of games with even kinda powerful cpu's is kinda special. Even the 13900k bottlenecks at 1440p ultra in some games
Yes, you’d get 250 fps in 2042 on the outskirts when nothing is happening. Get into action with explosions going off everywhere and show us what the fps looks like
The RTX 4090 is looking really good, i have RTX 3080 Nvidia but the difference is sick, i hope the RTX 4090 Nvidia come soon at a okay price. Jack i wish you all the best, and pretty cool that you got a new pc with a RTX 4090 for free. Free things is always great. 😉👌
Thing is with most cards you see maybe 20-40 fps increase from the last gen. With the 4090 you see something like an 80+ increase which is not common. Hell it pushes 4k games at almost 200fps, sometimes more if it is arena shooters. THAT is unheard of.
@@gfmw-tl1umhe is talking about in one of the graphics menus it was set to 60hz, which honestly means absolutely nothing cause it’s an adjustable setting and doesn’t mean he has a 60hz monitor.
The tech is insane, but so is the price
Its nvidia scamming ppl ;)
monopoly
And the power consumption is insane too
@@PaulElBanero I mean it is like if you'r buying a bugatti and you complains about the fuel consumption.
@@weetjewatikwil1 how are they scamming people?
Never in my life did I think I'd see Jack play an F1 game
190 fps or mph?
He actually said, “Toto, we went car racing.” That made my day,
I believe he's a fan (watched a stream with him and Westie whilst they were talking about the championship deciding race with the whole "No Mikey no, it's not right"). Can't believe he went Merc though, always thought of him as a McLaren fan!
It's the games he *regularly plays"
Not the ones nvidia told him to play of course.
Time for a wheel :D
This is the quality of gaming I look forward to enjoying in a couple of years when I buy a mid range system in 2024.
facts
Mid-range build that's gonna cost still atleast 80%-90% of the current price, for the card atleast. Nvidia is ducking gamers with their pricing.
@@ozianin7389 prebuild
@@ozianin7389 Buy AMD
Yeah right thats what i said 4 years ago when the 20xxs came out and here i am still waiting for prices to go down
Nvidia essentially sent Jack another house with how massive that card is
Nvidia is now a real-estate company? XD
The house that Jack built.
And they didn't need to do that. Card is more power efficient and runs cooler than previous flagships jay got 62c
They better also send him some solar panels or something because with the current energy prices running that thing will cost an arm and a leg every few months. :D
Guys guys it fine. Jack will now never have to pay for heat again
I'd love to see how VR performs as nobody really talk about it
probably because most people don't care about VR
@@Stern98257 most dont but why not have it anyways as it is most likely the future of gaming? and it doesn't hurt to expand ur targeted audience
You do understand that there's nothing about VR that changes which rasterization performance versus traditional games right?
You'd be seeing very comparable gains.
@@StrengthScholar0 its basically impossible to run VR at native res 90-120fps.
id like to see how the 4090 handles high refresh rate native res on headsets made past 2019
Vr has to display the image twice
Now you just need a 240hz 4K monitor.
Yea it's not that expensive
@@Mohamad_2310hmmm....
What im most impressed with are those gpu speeds. My goodness, nearly 3ghz in some cases and the temps are so dang low. Amazing. I wont be upgrading for another few years but im excited to see what even the 50 series will bring when I'm ready to change.
Its massive and ugly but... it is what it is
@@thev87 its a computer who gives af how it looks 😆. no practical reason to upgrade for gamers atm anyways
@@Flameb0 Lmao you really didn't just say that, don't know a single person who doesn't care what their pc looks like. That the same as saying "It's just a car, who gives af how it looks"
Clock speeds don't mean that much it depends on the gpu architecture a gpu could run at 10ghz but have a low IPC high clock speed is good if the IPC is good
@@AlluzHH hes right Tho, id love some pc stuff without rgb.
I like how chill you are about being sent the computer that literally every gamer wants right now lol
he doesn't get to keep it....
@@xMagnason surely he does?
@@lachlantaylor1225 It's worth at least 4000$ ... Would be a really nice gift
I mean I'd take a 4090 right now for free certainly but outside of that I have zero desire for one.
Well this PC is pocket change compared to the income on the views jack pulls lmao
he has a beast of a pc but only has a 60Hz monitor 😭😭
bro its a 4k monitor what do you expect
@@isepicworthful What most people expect is 4k 120 hz. 4k 60 is literally from the nvidia 2k generation.
@@Diggler569 there is a huge difference in price between 120 Hz and 60 hz
As 4k ofc
@@isepicworthful If you're buying a 4090, you're most likely gaming on a 2k 160+ hz display or 4k 120+. Its incredibly dumb to buy a 4090 to game on 4k 60.
Also, you can get a decent 4k 120 hz+ monitor for around 450 or so
Honestly this style of review is much more appealing than a standard benchmarking video! Can’t wait to get my hands on one eventually
The benchmarks are nice, but actually seeing the game being played and seeing fps is even better let’s people know what to really expect since most people see benchmarks and are like wtf do these numbers even mean 😂
@@neh0c987 What? Its literally the same thing? seeing 60fps as a number vs as gameplay changes nothing as you know its 60fps? sorry im just hella confused at your comment lol
TCap/Joe still the best streamers
it shows pretty well how almost all games will run into a cpu limit with the card
That's weird, because I would much rather be looking at actual benchmark scores so that I can compare the scores of different GPU's across different resolutions and see the relative performance difference between different classes of GPU's.
With the size of these things its starting to feel like installing a PC into your PC.
Lol hahahah
Someone needs to build a PC in one
@@thomascocks9136 haha this is actually a top tier SFF PC case idea 💡
Finally it is a card which can allow to play games in 4k res in VR. Nice!
its actually sick how they sent you a whole battlestation, keep it up Jack !
my man still got a 60hz monitor like wtf
Who sent? Nvidia?
@@robbyxd3582 Fr he is seriously missing out
@@thev87 yea nvidia did it says it in the description
@@Dlc1312 he doesn't get to keep it
Just watched JayzTwoCents review. 60-70% uplift over the 3090Ti. This is without any upscaling tech. That's kinda nuts and would be amazing value if the other cards were still launch price (which they aren't). I'll stick with my 3080Ti for now. Let's see what AMD has up their sleeve come November.
It's not gonna top the 4090
il buy that 3080ti if you don't want an arm and a leg ... come back to the comments when ur ready m8
@@def-po8tu u will never know as 6950 xt slams the 3090 ti in gaming
@@def-po8tu I mean the fact that it’s going to draw way more power and then you gotta probably upgrade your psu and case to have it fit on top of the cost. I mean all and has to do is get close enough, which they have been. If the flu is 1500 and I need a new case and psu it’s more like 2000 + the electricity bill per month.
@@def-po8tu the 6000 series already matched or came very close to the 30x cards when it came to raster graphics but lost when it came to raytracing
What I love about the 4090 is it allows me to power limit it to 60% and run completely silently at low temps while still maxing out every game on my 1440p ultrawide OLED monitor. Gaming nirvana.
This is similar to what I used to do with my 2080 super a few years ago. I was fine with 1080p gaming at 60fps. So I’d keep it locked at that and let the GPU run cool and silent and stay healthy for longer.
@@DenzilPeters Is that what they call under voltage a graphics card and if i have zero know how should I just let the local pc shop do it for me❓🤔 Thanks for any advice 👍
@@SoUtHMeMpHis Ye limiting power (in msi afterburner for example) does drop the clock speed a bit on the GPU and also significantly reduces voltage consumed and in turn makes the GPU work MUCH cooler. Sometimes people like to cut down voltage and increase overclock to push gpus to max. I limited power on my laptop rtx 3070 to like 60% and enjoy it.
@@mem9910 👍👍👍👍Good to know, thanks 🙏
I don't limit my 4090 and it's still runs cool
Thanks Jack, this was amazing. Maybe i'll be able to afford a 3000 series once these drop. I'm still rockin' my GTX 1060 3GB baby!
3080s are hovering around $700, sometimes less even.
Just get a 1080 ti they're cheap and I'm getting 80fps medium settings on bf 2042 with just a standard 1080
@@MultiSpoonkiller yeah was thinking this exact thing or a 3060/Ti .
yeah you can even get one of those sick ass Gundam edition ASUS 3080's for like $700 right now.
I have a 3070 FE & can 144hz everything no problem
I have a 2070..I get 100+ fps on med settings at 1440p. More than good enough
4090 is the only GPU that let me get 140+fps on Cyberpunk 2077 in 4k with mixed settings. Absolute monster of a GPU. Not regretting my purchase one bit.
Has it caught 🔥?? (God for bid). I was gonna buy but rn ik it's an issue
Good to know. What cpu you recommend if I have the 4090 and working on my build now? I’m hearing 13600k? 13700k i7? O play warzone and want 4k or 1440 high fps. Thanks.
@@doroteopratt9147 just plug the cables in properly and it’s fine
@@Benji2108 13700k unless the 13600k is a really good price, pair the 4090 with the best u can get
@@Benji2108 get amd for warzone
Just imagine if the companies updated the plasma tvs with either the latest display port or HDMI version capable of high bandwidth to support 500hz refresh rate to support 500+ fps games.
Do you mean 500hz? I've never heard of plasma TV's doing this
@@kinpact6100 Yes, that's what I meant. I just fixed it. Thanks.
I feel like there is just too much diminishing returns past like 100hz
@@jasonjenkinson2049 I admit going from 60hz to 144hz was eye popping, but I find myself wanting more, and went for 240hz, while the returns was not as much as coming from 60 to 144, I still saw major advantage for my personal reflexes. I agree going to 500hz might actually be imperceptible, but stiill I'm curious.
@@gdjaybee742 over 200hz difference is only visible with a high speed slow motion camera
Nice, really looking forward to using this in 5 years time when it becomes almost affordable.
And this would become 8050ti
Broke boy
@@zane260 not getting enough daily dosage of ego boost aren't you?
@@fayliyur3899 nope, he is just saying common things. 2000$ - it's not something non-affordable at all lol
@@zane260 I got better things to buy than a mf Gpu😂I have a bmw I’m nodding out
Nice video name lmao
Um sir (snort) its called title 🤓🤓
Part of the reason I only watch reviews from optimum tech, he actually games and is above average in competitive games.
Well. 600 fps. Everyone needs that...
Actually, if you run intense VR apps, it might be pretty useful to help keep up and maintain decent framerate, buffer size for clarity, and in-game detail.
But I'll wait for the 50 series.
I feel like Nvidia is gonna skip straight to 6000 series
Your DLSS setting in Cyberpunk was set to performance which lowers the resolution pretty far. Wonder what it would've been like on the quality setting.
Probably still ridiculously fast ;)
You lose 20%
Yup, he was playing at 1080p for most of the games he showed with DLSS.
Same with requiem. To make 4090 look good.
Jack never disappoints with the fresh news, glad to see the performance in-game instead of bunch of benchmark results, really appreciate it
Nice,but everytime you want to test out graphic settings,it is better to restart the game after changes,sometimes even tho the game doesn't ask you to do it,some textures and effects remain and will only take affect after restart ;)
Why do you use a screen refresh rate of 60 hz on Bf 2042, overwatch, warzone and valorant when that basically caps the experienced fps to 60? Sometimes switching resolutions around defaults the settings on some monitors so that you have to reenable 144hz / 240Hz in nvidia control panel. Did that happen to you by any chance or was it intentional?
glad I was not the only one wondering about that
Capture card limitations most likely
All the reviews I've seen have said that unless you're heavily into 4K 120+ FPS gaming with every last bell and whistle enabled, this is severe overkill. Of course, some people need the Shiny New Thing, and some other people don't feel whole unless their forum signature has higher numbers than everyone else's.
some people have a 4K 144hz monitor and want to play their games at decent frames at that resolution.
The main reason I'd care for something like this is purely so I can be like "Welp, that's my rig sorted for the next 6 fucking years"
@@ethandonnelly1973or you could wait a year or two and get this performance at a reasonable price..
Pretty rad. I might get one eventually. But I’ve had a 3090 for the last 2 years, so obviously I’m not stressing at all right now. I can basically play any game in existence, maxed out at 4k with RT, at 60-100fps. But always fun to experience more! 😊
yeah play at 4k with native 4k,not pseudo 4k
@@bigben9056 There is litterly 0 difference in visual quality between native 4k and 4k dlss. I however do agree that running a game at native 4k with rt and 60+ fps is much more impressive than running a game with the same settings and resolution with dlss. Dlss (even dlss 3) is a really great feature, so why hate on it? A 3090 can play almost any game at native 4k 60 fps with rt. There are some exceptions. With a 4090 there are no exceptions and you can play almost any game at 4k rt with high refresh rate (120+fps)
@@luukherfst1209 dlss is perceivable
Ive had a 2070 for almost 5 years and still not worried about anything hah, you dont need a 4000 series dont worry
@@luukherfst1209 at 1440p it's perceptible, and it depends on the game how good it looks. In Horizon Zero Dawn (and most other games), I like native better, and fortunately can run it pretty well. DLSS takes the "photorealistic" fine details and glosses them over in exchange for marginal performance gains, which makes the world feel less crisp and tangible. In Hogwarts Legacy however, DLSS upscaling with subtle sharpening almost looks better than native at times. At native, the finer details sometimes feel slightly "washed out", despite actually being full resolution. Also, unlike Horizon, DLSS makes a very noticeable difference in FPS here, even on Quality Mode.
God I would love to get a 4090 just to play Cyberpunk with psycho raytracing at 100+ frames
hell nah, I aint paying 2 grand to play one game with some more reflection on the ground xD
@@risky8811 fr
Dont know why using dlss to show the card off. Best comparison is with it off.
@riskY good for vr though
@@Mike-kt4qh i have a 1660 and I am able to count the pixels in my vr glasses if i concentrate on them. I don’t think that a 3090/4090 is making a huge difference 🤷🏻♂️
Can't wait to see what amd can bring to the table in terms of price to performance.
My RTX 4090 arrives tomorrow. I am so excited I can't stand it!
I also have to work the next two days so I can't even start my new build for a couple days. :(
It's also worth mentioning that my current build is having a hard time simply playing this TH-cam video in 4k/60fps. This is going to be such an upgrade!
Id love to see the frames on star citizen's most fps eating places
Might be able to get 30 FPS!
Star citizen is mostly CPU intensive so you would have to look for a new ryzen 7000 series
@@PhenonIV Says a lot about the game, without saying much.
@@gazzy9136 can already get 30fps with ease
@@gazzy9136 Just unoptimized at the current stage.
Its not a game you are supposed to play seriously, but to test the tech and development-progression.
Crazy graphics card, but you'd also have to be crazy to buy one, with that price, and not knowing what the 4080 and the 4070 (that for some reason is called the rtx 4080 12gb) will offer in terms of performance numbers.
Well there is no doubt that the 4090 will be the best value card this generation.
@@Stardomplay Definitely! I never thought a card could be $1699 and literally worth every penny due to it's monstrous performance. Since the lowest i will acceptably play a game on pc is 1080p 60fps this is a card that would make me be futureproofed for a decade.
I must be crazy
@@lindugger4781 Upgrade your resolution brother. 4k 120 isn't even that expensive anymore. Find a used LG Oled.
@@lindugger4781 Except it only has display port 1.4, 4k high refresh needs higher XD Wtf
I get that people play with 4K but is jackfrags really playing with a 60hz monitor (I am assuming, because I saw the hz cap in BF)? The refresh rate is hugely more important if you have a cabable PC than the resolution. It is crazy how the games look when you have Gsync on with a 240hz display!
Hey Jack. Could you also do a review of the electricity bill by someone who plays games with this kind of hardware?
Apparently it uses less power than a 3090 ti.
Poor European and American. Also it seems it use less power than 3090ti in many situation.
@@789know I undervolt my 3090 Ti in some games so its not using as much power.
if you play about.6 hrs a day for a year, it comes out to around 800- 1200 usd in elec a year on average
@@OutsideDuhBox Yea but if you have a boner when that happens do you really care?
You forgot to show us the nuclear power plant this card comes with
Those are being shut down by the idiot environmentalist.. So good luck being able to run one off of a Nuclear power plant
I mean it uses less power than 3090Ti so
PERFORMANCE DLSS... nice. Upscalers really don't look that good man. 4K native is what I would want out of that price tag. In a few generations I suppose.
Yeah, DLSS is way overhyped.
thank you for noticing. cant boast about 4k gaming when its not native
@@woodsy4458 you can actually. The 4090 can do 100+ fps native 4K.
of course you can i can do it with my 6900 xt
@@tomhanke7703 cyberpunk on 4k with 6900xt? i have like 80 fps or something on 1080p and it looks pretty average
Until 4K 240Hz OLEDs come out I am not really hyped to upgrade. I feel like everything runs smooth enough on my current setup at 4K 144Hz, but it is cool to see graphics cards that might be able to max out our current monitor tech finally.
500hz on some crappy ips monitor probably , aint nuthin special
@@joelopez7459 Yeah pretty sure we are hitting the law of diminishing returns going past if not 240hz, 360hz.
@@tbfromsd I'd love to play a 1000hz monitor for a 1ms frame refresh.
Im holding out to see what AMD releases for the 7000 series. Hope they beat nvidia on price to perfomance again
same.
When your buying extreme performance cards like these 4090 cards it's not about price...thats not the reason your buying...it's purely performance only, with all the bells and whistles turned on.
There's no piont AMD making a slower highest end card minus the new features found on these 4 series cards just to be a hundred quid cheaper...might as well pay the extra hundred and have the faster card with all the new feature sets.
It feels like just yesterday people were complaining about scalpers buying out the 30 series graphic cards, where did the time go?
Nice to see you getting sponsorship. Hope they actualy give it to you and not just borrowed it. Your content is solid and highly rewarchable. Your a likable and relatable youtube. Nice to see you tubers loke your self get some focus from the higher tier manufacturers
In warzone with my 3080Ti optimized I’m getting 225-250 on normal settings and game looks amazing. 4090 not really worth the extra cost. I’ll wait a generation and see huge gains.
It is a performance showcase, not a review of what the product is or how it compares to the industry.
Definitely enjoy this "active play Benchmark" 😁 and thank you for mainly focusing on 4k gaming which a lot of typical youtubers arent for some reason 🙏🏾
find another job man its tough lul
600 FPS is cool, but I think I'll keep my kidney
What for
@@Ivantheterrible495 You know, to filter the blood in my body
Get a job
Great video as always Jack! 👍🏽 Question.. what were you using as your fps counter in the upper left corner? Thanks!
RTSS
@@matman8341 thats frameview not rtss
Part of me wonders if Nvidia made you play the games in performance mode… I usually play on DLSS quality mode because the visual fidelity is much higher. Obviously the frame gains are less
99% of people play for performance and he had mentioned he was using settings he would use
JF plays at 60 Hz. 🫥
The fact that we don't have to choose between 4k, high fps, and high detail is so mind boggling.
I'm fine with 1440p high fps and high detail for now, but It is exactly as you say, can't wait for next upgrade :-)..
If you count dlss 3 as real frames then yeah sure
@@sigmamale4147well, without dlss you get high frame rate too, the 4090 is a beast even in rasterization, 200+ fps w/o dlss in competitive games, i do about 90 fps in 4k ultra settings without dlss or frame gen in cyberpunk, it's a high frame rate with high detail
@@RumanZky lol 200 fps on a competitive game isnt good brozo 😂😂😂
90 fps on a 2 grand gpu is terrible 😭
I wish I could play on a system like that someday, pretty amazing stuff
imagine having a card capable of 4k240hz and not having displayport 2.0
Nvidia making bullshit excuses not to put in dp 2.0
that's just insane, but I don't think any human will notice anything above 144fps, but it will be great for 8k gaming on a huge 8k tv
Its important to list what CPU you have because most if not all of the competitive titles you showed are CPU bottlenecked so that matters a lot.
Probably, is a 12gen Intel CPU... clocks go up to 5.1ghz.
@@relasoft cpu was hitting over 5.4 in overwatch
@@relasoft what do clocks have to do with being cpu bottlenecked though? Even at 5.5GHz some latest cpus will bottleneck the 4090 at 1440p
@@amashaziz2212 ??? i didn't say anything about cpu bottleneck... what are you talking about?
I mean if they sent him a 4090 they probably also sent him a 12900k
I think you may be locked at 60FPS. In every game you played it showed 60FPS as the refresh rate
Yep, either Jack's monitor is 60 hz or he forgot to go into the display settings and change The refresh rate to the higher setting.
60 fps and 60hz is different things. Hz is the refresh rate and does not effect the fps.
and depening on the hdmi cable you are using you can get enywhere from 60hz-240hz depending on the hdmi cable and monitor aswell.
@@FluePeak They are different things but if your running at high frame rates at a much lower refresh rate your only perceiving what ever the refresh rate is. Basically meaning that the FPS isn't doing anything for you.
My mind is absolutely blown by the fact that you are still on 60hz while playing "comp" shooters
My 3090 got 19000 as a graphics score for 3d mark aswell.. do you maybe not have the latest drivers installed? Why do we achieve similar performance?
Someone else above said they got 21000 with a 6800 XT as well which is weird.
you should tell us the other specs of the pc too, but I'm guessing they're well the best you could have already
I know he's had a i9 9900k. Which is probably a 12900k right now.
Yes, that's true for most of the big reviews. Makes sure that it's the GPU that's pulling all the weight, not the CPU falling behind, or something.
@@SovereignThrone yep
to me the Temp ( max 62C with 97% load ) is the impressive one
These cards have become almost as advanced as their prices
Incredible performance at 4k. I may now actually invest in a 4k 144hz monitor
50 extra frames aren’t worth the price
It’s not an investment it’s a leisure purchase
Remember the performance is with dlss active. I don't line the fact that most of the benchmarks is dolls active
@@thesupreme8062 See other reviews, 4090 can do high refresh rate (144 fps) at 4k ultra settings without upscaling in most games. Warzone and doom were at native in this video as well.
@@dhaumya23gango75 you mean a 4090?
DLSS 3 IS the frame generation. DLSS 2 is the upscaler. DLSS 3/frame generation can do wonders for smoothing out stuttering frame rates and be great for single player games, but never use it in a multiplayer/competitive game, as it will increase your response time noticeably
Seeing people like jack getting free monster pcs really grinds my gears.
surely he has to give it back after the video.
Rich people getting free stuff... its a wierd world we live in but that's reality, Just wait until the price collapses 6 months from now.. Just like it happened with the 3090ti MSRP
@@ooohry not always
Yup bc they are advertisment xD
Don’t let it grind ya gears mate .. that was a rental nobody in the right mind giving that type of tech for free
Clearly a monster of power! 4k/144 without compromise! a first for years! just divine! ;) finally have perpetuated the 4k without concession in the world of PC video games, FINALLY, thank you NVIDIA FOR THIS JEWEL
Running overwatch 2 on max settings for 30 minutes has the same effect on your gpu as bitcoin mining for 10 years straight.
cool, but I'm not spending $1,.600 on a graphics card. That's just ridiculous.
you don't need to
I got mine for 900
Absolutely crazy performance and nice real-world review (:
"When im playing a competitive fps" proceeds to play at 60hz
Ah yes, s o m e o n e w h o actually plays some games
BF2042 and OW2 was on 60Hz. Does 144Hz affect the fps? Or even higher Hz? Would be nice to see on 144Hz or higher.
Short answer: no
Glad someone else noticed that. Clearly the refresh rate was set to 60hz in game. Weird he didnt spot that?
@@prodical666 He may be playing on a 60hz display since he's testing the rig. May be playing on a spare monitor. Either way, it doesn't impact what the game is running at. You can only cap the frames by setting the limit or vsync. Setting the display's refresh rate doesn't change that.
Because he has a 4k 60hz monitor I guess
@@prodical666 Monitor refresh rate doesn't affect framerate
I'm happy with my 6800 xt overclocked and undervolted, cheaper and better power consumption for the same or better performance, I might have lucked out on the silicon lottery though, also dlss would be nice, I get about 21200 in timespy which is good for bragging rights lol
whats ur specs ? if u dont mind telling
@@junovrt I've got a 5800x in eco mode, but goes upto 4.9ghz (single core), my 6800xt is at 2600mhz, the gddr is at 2120mhz (fast timings), ram is cl16 1733
I forgot to mention that it's at 1070mv
@@Markknightexeter 1733mhz?
@@gabefruit165 sorry, 3733
Changing the V/F curve is certainly the way to go these days imo
ahh yes just what we wanted during a power crisis, bigger gfx cards.
it's not a power crisis its a fuel price spike, there's plenty of power if you can afford 3x the price
@@bradhaines3142 tell that to the europoors after their pipeline got bombed and they closed down all their nuke plants 🤷♂️
@@xMagnason turn on those nuke plants and boom plenty of power
@@bradhaines3142 Cause it's that easy
@@hagenbuddne7628 i think 3 or 4 days to start up
Better title: "RTX 4090 review by someone with unlimited financial resources"
It looks like you don't need a 4090 for BF2042 though, seeing that the refresh rate is capped at 59hz
It must be Jack's monitor or settings. I play BF2042 @ 144HZ, 4k.
@@daniellucas6325 Oh, at 1:35 it looks like the in-game refresh rate slider maxes out at 59 hz. Thats what I was going by. I'm guessing that's overridden if your monitor's refresh rate is higher?
@@baron75 Considering he's getting 200+fps I would say it isn't limited lol
*Me watching in 1080p60fps* hmm yes very nice looking
Wow, you actually play games! What accomplishment! 🤣
Your monitor appears to be a 60hz screen. So I make use of those frames rates you're going to need a monitor that can match.
Yep. All of the games are running at a 60Hz Monitor ^^
Looks lovely but I'm sure I'm noticing screen tearing during the first few clips, which I don't normally notice on your vids... did u notice this while playing, is there an easy fix?
he probably uncapped the frame rate for testing, if you cap the framerate to the monitor's frame rate the tearing will go if the frame rate stays at the cap
Not even mentioning how DLSS Frame Generation literally doubles input latency - if you can't feel that much of a difference, are you even playing the game? Great review, I guess
Imagine having 4090 with 60Hz monitor. Thats like having a ferrari with tires on from Lada
What's lada
csgo on competitive settings would run 1k fps but because of source engine 800+ frames starts to make you stutter. Locking it at 500-750 fps competitive settings would be nuts
I would like to see CS:GO on 1080p max settings and competitive settings, as well as Fortnite.
Is this a Nvidia FE or aftermarket?
Pretty insane! I'll have to wait on that 4k series. 3080ti I have still holds pretty strong. Really excited for that Requiem though! Jackfrags, great vid as usual!
Your 3080ti will be perfect for another 3-4 years
@@PinguExpert Thanks man, took a LONG time to save up just to get it. I'm happy with it though!
@@IceStoneWhiskey you live alone or do you live with your parents. I'm trying to build a pc and want to gage how long it's gonna take me to save up. I'm thinking of going for a RX 6600.
Mf has 3080ti and dares to say "still holds pretty strong"
Halo infinite winter update hype! Forge looks amazing and it’s a great restart for infinite.
@Vice Nocturne Don't be that guy
@Vice Nocturne infinite is free lol
@Vice Nocturne infinite is free tho?
Oh man I try not to be envious but I can't help it! I am still stuck with a GTX680 and my god any FPS above 30 I get for most modern games right now is a godsend.
It's absolutely nuts that the 4090 is hitting CPU bottlenecks in many games... at 1440p!!
That's really not that special is it
@@AlluzHHA gpu so powerful that it gets bottlenecked at 1440p ultra settings in a lot of games with even kinda powerful cpu's is kinda special. Even the 13900k bottlenecks at 1440p ultra in some games
only a legendary 500hz crt can only show the quality of this graphics card
This is the way
I just subscribed. Why am I just now seeing this guy's videos?! It's refreshing to just see a normal reaction to real world gaming.
good question
Now play Skyrim with 400 mods at 4K. That's what I'm most interested in.
make no sense
Yes, you’d get 250 fps in 2042 on the outskirts when nothing is happening. Get into action with explosions going off everywhere and show us what the fps looks like
All it takes is one smoke grenade 😁
Oh my god that RTX 4090 / custom PC is a beast!
Please do a complete review of the new PC !
Mans got 600 FPS and plays on a 60Hz screen for what reason
The RTX 4090 is looking really good, i have RTX 3080 Nvidia but the difference is sick, i hope the RTX 4090 Nvidia come soon at a okay price. Jack i wish you all the best, and pretty cool that you got a new pc with a RTX 4090 for free. Free things is always great. 😉👌
MSRP will be $1599
You can already order them, they are at around 1.950 - 2.600 €.
at least in Germany. So around 1,1 - 1,3 month average salary after taxes :D
@@soghotze gas bill have made that impossible
I'm upgrading from my 3070ti gaming laptop to my first gaming desktop PC with a 4090..can't wait
Who would've thunk it that the new top of the line RTX card would be good... my mind is truly blown
Thing is with most cards you see maybe 20-40 fps increase from the last gen. With the 4090 you see something like an 80+ increase which is not common. Hell it pushes 4k games at almost 200fps, sometimes more if it is arena shooters. THAT is unheard of.
@@vergy Shit's about the size of a toaster it better be pushing those frames
I'd like the 4090 too if nVidia would give me one ...
Just ordered a 4090 build off Best Buy with a i9 13900k for $3,200. Can’t wait to play on it!!
Dear God… Hundreds of frames per second in pretty much every game, and you’re playing at 60 Hz??? That 4090 is wasted on you. 😞
When did he say that
@@gfmw-tl1umhe is talking about in one of the graphics menus it was set to 60hz, which honestly means absolutely nothing cause it’s an adjustable setting and doesn’t mean he has a 60hz monitor.
How does this have so many likes?? If he has a 4090 and someone that plays a lot of games ofc he doesn’t play on 60hz smh
@@Michael-ty2uotake a look into his settings menus for some of the games he has it at 60hz
@@Tommy-gc7usits because hes using a capture card🤦♀️
Might I ask what the other specs are of your PC? Might be a nice addition for the people who like that :)
Can safely assume it's a 13900K
Next time can we have a review by someone who actually plays games
Insane frame rates. It’s actually a bargain considering how expensive 3090/3090ti were during the lockdowns!
found the nvidia fanboy
Nice card, but all this tells me is that the 5080 will be the card to get. 😁
Yeah....if you want to live your life always waiting instead of enjoying top tech