The Zelda game Nintendo regrets making
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2019
- So, Nintendo's Legend of Zelda series is full of incredible games. But there's one Zelda game which series creator Shigeru Miyamoto does not like. Zelda 2: Adventure of Link. Why was this game so weird? Let's take a look!
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NOTE: Parts of this story may have been dramatised/expanded upon for narrative effect. This video is not a substitute for original research.
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if system limitations plagued the game and made it a failure in miyamoto's eyes, doesnt that sound like good potential for a remake
@High Definition so even more potential for a remake
dude that would be so cool. Like the top down perspective resembling the open 3d field from ocarina of time, with enemy spawns working like dragon quest XI, and the side scrolling working more like hollow knight. There's tons of potential here.
@High Definition Bad to the bone
I actually hope it gets a remake. I think it deserves another chance to truly shine.
Think the main designer behind Lizardcube (made the Wonder Boy 3 remake) mentioned wanting to do a Zelda 2 remake
Theyd never regret the zelda cdi games.
They are truly beautiful
Miyamoto didn't develop the CDI games.
Yes, but I'd still imagine he'd like to forget them!
@@ThomasGameDocs Makes sense, Nintendo really made a bad deal with Philips...
Thomas Sontag they should’ve kept their deal with Sony
Player: I cannot beat the final boss, I have everything maxed out
Nintendo: Git good
I expected them to tell the guy to crouch in the bottom left corner.
Load out on food and fairies.
The boss wasn't all that hard.
The whole boss mechanic is crouch and stab......if you could not get that I pity whatever online anything you play.
@@findantu Oh, my sweet summer child. You've only known a like after the invention of play control. You'll never know the horrors of early NES game movements.
"You can only rely on your skill at this point" A.K.A. GITGUD LOL!!!
The best answer ever! Of course you can only rely at your skill in any well developed game! What should they tell him? Use skills or grind to become overpowered and then lose interest in the game..
that man was no doubt the man that figured out that u can just crouch at the side of the screen and completely cheese the battle
That's pretty much the only advice for the late game of Zelda II, anyway. While you can just cheese Dark Link by crouching in the corner and thrusting your sword repeatedly, the Thunderbird REALLY puts your skills to the test.
It's too bad Masahiro Sakurai didn't take that attitude in the Smash Bros series... instead of telling players "git gud", he completely dumbed the game down starting with Brawl.
I remember my dad was a huge Legend Of Zelda fan, he loved the first one but he was so pissed when Zelda II came out. He felt betrayed.
It didn't stop him from buying all the other Zelda games up to Majora's Mask.
(Dad died before BOTW came out. RIP my dad!)
@Jkd Buck76 Taco Bell has corn?
@@JustAGuyProduction of course they do the shell is made from it
Corn is the secrets of mastering the art of customizing your shit.
Rip to your dad, hopefully he liked Majora's Mask.
Majora's mask is the best Zelda anyway.
at this point, it's safe to assume he deleted Zelda CDI from his memory.
Haha, I know I would if I were him
Miyamoto didn't develop the CDI games.
*game releases*
Miamotos brain: *deleted 30 gigabytes of memory*
Because no one from Nintendo developed them you goof
They allowed it.
As for the CDi Zeldas though, there is no regret that these masterpieces exist.
...For without the CDi Zelda games, YT Poops would have never risen to the glory in which they stand to this day.
@@Aiijuin Exactly! Where would I be today without stuff like "The king's unreasonable demands"?
Just gonna say the cutscenes are the only good in them. Zeldas adventure is pure garbage though
@@TheWither129 That is true. When we talk about CDi, we actually only mean the high definition super realistic MS Paint animations, mah boi.
Should there be? Thanks to them Playstation exists. Thanks to Playstation Xbox exists. Thanks to that Nintendo had to reinvent themselves and focus on innovation and fun instead of mah powah like they did with the N64.
Win win scenario if you ask me.
Fun fact: "The worst" Zelda game was one of the inspirations for Hollow Knight, which is an Indie game that is acclaimed as one of the best Metroidvanias out there. Some even rival it with Super Metroid and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Nice
Irony is a beautiful thing
Hollow knight is good but super metroid was like 20 years ago lol not really compareable
I can attest that hollow knight has reached the status of those two games in my eyes.
Corn Pop come on man!
So.....they basically told the guy at 5:12 to git gud?!
Basically! Lol kkkkk
he wasn't wrong though
Hornet:
Yep
wow what a funny and definitely current and modern joke.
Zelda II is actually pretty good. Its difficult, yeah, but the controls are tight, the story works fine as a zelda game and the gameplay is pretty fun as you get better.
Gameplay are better on cartridge version as no few second waiting time.
Or better yet using emulator for the FDS version as all those slow disk operations are magically diminished, and you get the better in-game music.
@@rashidisw FDS? You think emulating it on switch is not as good?
Agreed m8. I can't recommend it enough to people looking for a more interesting platformer. Do you have any recs for games that better execute z2's ideas or copies them?
It aged well. People like it a lot more now than they did at the time.
@@skaterdude7277 although it's not exactly similar to zelda II but the metroid series, my other favorite franchise, has a similar structure. Super Metroid is one of the best and is a side scrolling, action based platformer with puzzles and hidden areas.
Player: "I can't beat the final boss."
Team: "Git gud, kid!"
RIP
“Iiiii just wonder what Gannon is up to!”
I can't wait to bomb some dodongos!
MAH BOI... this peace is what all true warriors strive for!
Now that deserves a kiss! I won!
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"The foundation of action games at the time was to feel difficult for everyone. Games didn't have a ton of content at that time do in order to have them played for as long as possible we felt like we couldn't make them easily clearable."
And thus SMB: the lost levels was born
_Cries in Castlevania_
Thing is that people often forget that if the Lost Levels wasn't so hard, we wouldn't have gotten Doki Doki panic here in the west. Considering the Lost Levels was basically just a harder Mario 1, I think that the Mario 2 we got here in the west was well worth it.
I personally liked Zelda 2, and i often wondered why Nintendo never tried another Zelda game in this style
they kind of did. Zelda II was like an early Breath of the Wild.
@@nunyabaznus7851 i meant specifically a sidescrolling Zelda game
Link’s Awakening includes side-scrolling sections like Zelda II. Along with the perspective changing from top-down exploration to horizontal side-scroller. But it’s admittedly skewed much more toward top-down.
@@ndr2q dude, that's not the same thing. Zelda 2 felt like a faster paced Castlevania. I loved the combat, too. The only thing I didn't like is that you got sent all the way back to Zelda's Palace every time you got a game over
@@nunyabaznus7851 Breath of the Wild sucks major Donkey balls as well.
The game was an absolute gem with near infinite replayability. I still sometimes play it, more than any of the other titles. The playstyle could even be done again being that some games nowadays are made to seem retro. Someone buy Mr. Miyamoto a bottle of sake.
With it being such a black sheep in the series, Zelda 2 probably has the highest potential for a remake out of the others where the basic formula is the same.
A remake because everyone hated it, the perfect kind of game to remake! Remaking Super Metroid on the other hand, is absurd, as it’s cherished worldwide. Face it, Zelda 2 was never meant to be part of the Zelda series as evidenced by, gee, LTTP and every other game since.
@@_sparrowhawk Same as Metroid 2. People harshly criticized Return of Samus at the time, for how weird it was
@@_sparrowhawk Not everyone hated it. That's revisionist history.
@@_sparrowhawk Bullshit. Only young kids who need constant hand holding mechanic in games hate Zelda 2. Zelda 2 is probably one of my favourite games of all time factoring in limitations it had. I had no trouble beating this game as an 8year old kid as you quickly figure out to put as much into attack power as possible.
Very good point!
5:13 Nintendo costumer support. Telling players to git gud before it was cool.
It's not cool. It's an obnoxious troll cop-out "answer" used when nobody wants to provide any real tips or answers to a given question. It's a lazy meme.
Not attacking you at all btw, I just find that phrase annoying.
@@mikeexitsI'm 100% with you on that, my dude. Not everyone has to be equally good at the same type of skill set. And it annoys me to no end when people say that. No to mention it's a form of elitism and false pride. My comment was only a joke and was meant to be sarcastic. The "cool" part refers to the fact that everyone seems to do it now, so in this case Nintendo was the "hipsters" of telling people to get good. Although in hindsight it may not have been a very good joke. Oh well
I hate that phrase so much.
Seems you guys were never able to 'git gud'
I really thought you were going to talk about Zelda CD-I.
nintendo just completely forgot about those god awful games
Nintendo didn't make those. I'm sure they regret that licensing decision.
@@AJA_974 I think it would be best you left that question as a mystery
@@AJA_974 Anddddd I bet you're probably googling it right now
@@AJA_974 it's the worst game of zelda ever
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link is a very challenging game, with some of the best graphics and, especially, music I’ve ever seen in a video game, and I’ve been a gamer ever since the NES was first sold in the US. The title screen itself-visually and musically, one of the most beautiful sequences in NES history-is enough to let you know this game is special.
I hope you mean best graphics compared to other NES Games
@@spaggtrait1608 well in theory but He said "ever seen in a videogame", I just wanted to make sure
Agreed on the music big time - Temple Theme is my favorite Zelda song outside of the OoT soundtrack
Miyamoto: Making people wait 7 seconds to another section of the game would irritate players
Valve: Is this a personal attack or something?
earthbound waterfall: awkward whistling
The Lego Movie Video Game: *Looks Away*
@@ignasia7230 what does your comment have to do with the other one?
@@joaonitro5149 I think it was meant for a different post. I usually have multiple windows up, and multitask, and just overlooked what I clicked on. Sometimes multiple videos open and watch them bit by bit.
To give you an idea, I right now have about 60 tabs in one window, 11 or so in another, 1 in a third.
@@ignasia7230 *my computer that dies of a heat stroke if you try to run Pong:* is it possible to learn this power?
"The team ended up telling him"
*GIT GUD*
Zelda 2 was a game where skill actually meant something. I still love this game, despite its dark souls difficulty after death mountain lol
This is a point most dont consider, the zelda games for the most part are made easy, made to be beaten by literally single digit aged children, i beat zelda 2 when i was about 4 or 5, and i loved it, you just have to not suck and the game is extremely fun.
@@HamTheBacon I don't believe that, I had to restart the game twice for me to finally beat it legit with no savestates or switch/bizhawk's rewind
Satoru Riolu the game can be beaten in a couple hours if you are good enough, the only place i ever had real trouble with zelda 2 was the early DM areas with the red axemen. But once i learned the secret to finishing that game, its almost too easy now.
Yeah I loved the challenge too.
I was able to beat the game without dying/losing a life.
But it sucked because whenever you save the game, it counts as a death for some reason.
So i had to actually use “save states” so I wouldn’t have a 001 on the counter.
Yep
I remember renting this Zelda II by mistake one weekend when i was a kid. Was disappointed to find out it wasnt the first one. Ruined my whole weekend.😐 but as an adult ive come to appreciate it🤷♂️
This game was my first introduction to Zelda so it will always have a special place in my heart. Love the sound track. It was a bit too difficult for me to play early on as I was quite young but I spent many hours watching my dad play it. He got all the way to the final palace and then one day my neighbor friend came over and erased all his progress by accident. He had to start all over again 😂 however I don’t think he had the patience to get all the way to the end again and retired from video games shortly after…
I think we too often gloss over the fact that a lot of people loved Zelda 2 when it first came out. It sold almost as well as the first game, and you have to take into account a great cartridge shortage at the time of release.
Miyamoto may regret it, but I see it as a classic which spawned a lot of Zelda conventions we love today. I would like to see a faithful remake in the same sidescroller style.
I agree!
Or even a spiritual successor. Heck, I might even do a basic one day, if my gamedev skills improve.
Completely agree. I was 12 in 89 when I recieved my copy. Nobody in school was bitching about it for being different.
like what zelda conventions? i can only think of towns wich Idk if that should even count. There isnt anything in zelda 2 that they use in any later games unless it was used in Zelda NES. A link to the past is the one that set in stone all the conventions (for the 2d games at least).
@@cronaman3196 well, it did add dark Link, the Triforce of Courage(those first two are pretty big throughout the series), a very early magic system, and maybe a couple other things.
What’s funny is that Zelda 2 was the more challenging and more action oriented with spells and swordplay fighting mechanics.
It was a great game, despite its criticisms
It's basically the same concept as Dark Souls...
@@MogofWar Psh. Dark Souls only WISHES it was as hard as Zelda 2.
IS ZELDA 2 THE DARK SOULS OF ZELDA GAMES? WHAAA?
pillowcase it’s the grandfather of dark souls
I more feel like it had some good ideas that were poorly executed.
I want a revised Zelda 2 on the switch. I long for a revisit of the past with revolutionary modern graphics.
MGB how?
@MGB Are you alluding to the sword puzzle combat? That's the only thing I can see being inspired directly or indirectly from Zelda ll.
There's a version online where the maker turned into a first-person shooter (yes, I'm serious).
I’ve heard people call this game better than Twilight Princess, a Link to the past, oracle of seasons/ages, and phantom hourglass. Bruh
Peanut butter gamer
@@timnichols2906 he DID not call it better than alttp
Yeah but peebs still called to worse than lof2
PEANUT BUTTER GAMR
I guess it depends on opinion
He didn't say Zelda II was a bad game, he even said they'd never made a game he considered bad. What he DID say was that they "could have done more with Zelda II"
Also, it only lacks "The Legend of" outside Japan, the FDS release obviously retains the title as seen in the video
Because of this it would be great to see a Zelda 2 remake.
And yet they haven't bothered creating a new Zelda in this style to implement those ideas.
@@ogeidnomar4601 It's not like Zelda II hasn't been influential on the rest of the series. Most notably, remember that OoT began as a 3D remake of Zelda II, and the sword combat in that game is a direct evolution of its combat. Never mind the magic meter, Shadow Link, the names of the sages, etc.
A game doesn't necessarily have to be in the same style to demonstrate the principle of what Miyamoto was saying RE: doing more with the game.
To beat the final boss.... duck, stay in place and swing the sword low.
Or....power glove!
I love passing on all bosses till I'm maxed out with stats and down thrust Horse Head killing him in two hits.
It's harder than it sounds.
you do the exact same in oot with the biggoron sword..
Doesn't work in the Japanese version, and was never intended to work
Zelda II is my favorite Zelda game. I love the difficulty, for me it is just right. The game's music and atmosphere is also some of the best in the series!
No where near my favourite. But I still love it. I wish they didn't make it the 2nd Zelda game because it's not a Zelda game but it's still really cool.
its stupidly wrong, no where near what a Zelda game should be, It would suit better if it was another franchises game.
@@flamingbanana5831 its in my top 5 favorite zelda games. It kicks enormous ass.
Too bad I absolutely loved this game. Joke's on him.
The bad game he directed was Paper Mario Sticker Star. Zelda 2 was actually pretty good.
No sticker star is good
Wallonican Mapper its not awful, its just really bland and strips away what made the paper mario games fun and unique.
@@dorf7219 I guess that that may be true but sticker star is the only paper Mario game i ever played
Wallonican Mapper thats fair. Like a said, not a necessarily bad game but it hurts to see a franchise become a shadow of its former self.
I played Zelda 2- it was quite good, becomes a drag after a while cuz of it’s difficulty
Great video Sir!!! I'm surprised Nintendo haven't tried to remake the game yet. As aside from the original and Skyward Sword, nearly all the Zelda games have had a remake of some capacity.
Ooh yeah, that would be really interesting to see! I wonder what aspects they'd want to change?
Oh also, I just wanted to say that I've been watching your videos for quite a few years now (since at least the cover art theft one) so I'm really honoured you liked mine!
I'm still waiting for a remake of Oracle of Seasons and Ages
indeed Zelda 2 definitely needs a remake
You mean remasters.
Few games were truly remade.
The original actually has had a sort of remake/remaster, in the form of the Satellaview version of it, BS The Legend of Zelda.
Every Zelda-game was great in its own way. This one, too. And it introduced »Dark Link«. I wonder what it would have felt like if Zelda II was Zelda I and vice versa. Would the first one be a flop then, too?
0:53 did you say "It was late 1980?/Not long after the first game came out?" The original game came out in 1986.
@Mellitus Dollar Man - glad I found someone else from the same dimension.
@@wmaneker yeah not trying to be a dick or anything but thats a pretty big detail to just gloss over. And I lol'd @Mellitus Dollar Man. Well played assist.
..that would still work, linguistically
I just realized the difference, I am a fool.
Miyamoto: "Zelda II is bad because there isn't more than what was in the design docs."
That doesn't sound bad to me at all.
Sega is so jealous of him...
It's bad by Nintendo standards. If we were talking about EA or Activision this would be a miracle
I think what he meant by that was the concept wasn’t interesting enough to expand to him
typical of Nintendo. if they can't shoehorn some awkward experimental thing into a game, like Donkey Kong Country Bongo Drums on GameCube, then DKC returns forced Wii waggle controls, then they won't even waste their time on it.
@@Biotear Yay DLC
I'm one of those heathens who likes Zelda II more than Zelda I.
yooo same and honestly Zelda 2 has more advice as to where you need to go compared to Zelda 1, just saying, Zelda 1 lovers!
@@dorriedragon it doesn't matter because you probably need a guide for both games
@@Unlimi-PT unless you play the "living life of a luxary" abomination in the NSO
Zelda 2 is more depth than Zelda 1, for example, you’d go to a town in zelda 2 and be told about something in the south, whilst in zelda 1 you’d blow up a wall and be told a random riddle
A link to the past was the best though
When people used to say Nintendo hard, this game was usually the first to come to mind.
What?
Not really. More like Battletoads, Ghosts and Goblins, Ninja Gaiden, Castlevania 3
More fitting for Super Mario Bros. 2: The Lost Levels
No Punchout is Nintendo hard, Zelda 2 is easy in comparison.
I actually really enjoyed Zelda II as a kid, with the caveat that I had Nintendo Power next to me at all times...
I loved Zelda 2! When it came out it having a game that was next to impossible to beat wasn't uncommon... and next to impossible is kind of an understatement for this game.
@Retro Entertainment Channel there are plenty of hard games today as well
Beat it finally on Switch earlier this year. Thank god for save states.
And the rewind feature!
You are ready for the next level: Beat it on an NES with no continues. It's satisfying when you finally pull it off.
@Retro Entertainment Channel Not necessarily zero deaths, although that would certainly be impressive. But no continues... you start with 3 lives, and I think there are 5 extra Link dolls that can be collected. So I guess no more than 7 deaths during a quest? It's difficult, but doable. I'd say no more than 2 deaths before the end of Level 6, a couple more deaths just getting to the great palace, and that leaves you with about 4 chances to beat the great palace.
Battletoads on the other hand... ugh
@@not2tired Ive been able to beat it with losing only one life (Gameboy Advance version): getting knocked into a pit by the ghosts in Death Valley immediately prior to entering the Grand Palace. I never died to combat on that attempt. Such a pitiful death.
One of the best things of Zelda II is it introduced the temple music theme, one of my favourites musics of zelda games
Thank you for getting right to the point. Most youtubers would fuck around with ads and bullshit for three minutes before answering the title.
Oh I've given it tries alright. And I've always manage to witness the return of Ganon.
While flawed in it's execution, the concept for Zelda II made plenty of sense at the time they started work on it. In Japan, the Dragon Slayer and Wonder Boy series were already popular and still growing, while Dragon Quest had only just come out and Final Fantasy wasn't out yet. Not to mention all of the side scrolling medieval / barbarian fantasy themed games that pretended they had something to do with RPGs but were only borrowing the visual style for purely action gameplay. In that environment, a side-scrolling Zelda doesn't seem that weird after all.
Yeah, it always reminded me of Rastan to some extent.
exactly, I always thought Nintendo wanted to raise the realism bar a little with Zelda 2. People can say they failed on this, but a lot of us like it anyways.
Even though I was never really good at the first Zelda, I somehow got this game shortly after it’s release. It was brutally hard and I never even came close to beating it although I spent countless hours trying and being repeatedly enraged when Gannon would laugh at me on the “game over” screen.
This game represents such inspiration and memories from my childhood. And it taught me to persist through difficult circumstances. Still, to this day I cannot beat it.
I wonder if anyone legitimately and honestly hates Zelda 2. Anyone who's ever touched the game enjoyed it and looked past the skill spike, myself included.
i know a lot of people who hate it? myself included, just not my type of game.
Looking at the comments to see what others have to say, personally I love Zelda 2, frustrated me for a couple of hours but I have played it all the way through more times than I remember.
i do and zelda is my favorite series.
I hated it
As far as I'm concerned, Zelda II feels a bit like TMNT (which I both owned back in the days). Horribly difficult, far from perfect (especially by today's standards, even if calling them "bad" is a bit of a stretch), but I still have a lot of fondness for them, no matter what. (sorry for my bad English, I'm French)
Earning downward thrust is still one of my favorite gaming moments of all time.
3:08 That sounds like the "!" sound from the Phoenix Wright games.
This was the first one I played, I loved the intense sword fights, trying to block from all angles while furiously stabbing for an enemies weak point used to make me sweat like hell
Zelda II was released in a strange era of experimental sequels. I think it's a fantastic game with surprisingly deep combat for its time, but I totally understand why it's so maligned.
Agreed, the only issue I take with it is the somewhat random aspect of fighting shield enemies, because sometimes they seemed to read inputs with how quickly they defended
@@kurosakikun96 You're gonna think I'm insane: those were my favourite things to fight :P
@@reloadpsi and I'm sure more do, I just know across the 3 times I've played the game they've pissed me off the most, and I've never beaten Dark Link in a straight up duel because of it, I need to do the corner crouch exploit or I just can't beat him
It kind of feels like "regret" is just a little too strong of a word for the title of this video. Makes it sounded like they outright hated it. "Could've been better" seemed to better fit the tone here.
Gotta get them views
“It Was Late 1980”
yea what the hell does that mean? december 1980?
Prolly means they don’t remember but it was the holidays.
im eating cheerios whole
"I'm finna remake Dark Souls for the NES." Proceeds to ROM hack Zelda II.
5:03 Nintendo should have told the player about the corner crouch trick.
I loved Zelda II. That one and Phantom Hourglass (first Zelda game I ever played) will always be my two favorites.
Jordan Wight Phantom Hourglass--isn't that the one that introduced and featured Jar Jar Binks so prominently that people tend to hate?
@@joelbaldwin4051
What lol?
Wind Waker is my favorite.
Hello Nobody The save mechanic of majora's mask, that items had to be recollected every time you saved the game, rupees only saved if stored in a bank...all of this a major inconvenience when playing that killed enjoying the game. That's why I couldn't get into the game. Zelda II, by comparison, was much more fun and likable.
Phantom Hourglass/Phantom Menace joke. That's all.
I rented this game with my allowance all those decades ago. I was so disappointed by it, my Mom actually took me back the next day so we could return it and rent something else, on her dime. It was the one and only time we ever did that. My mom surprised me that day, overhearing her discussion with the clerk, she said "How can it be that the first game is so amazing, but the second one is so disappointing?" Here, I thought she was entirely bereft of any gaming knowledge, striking up a genuine conversation about it with someone behind the counter I realized she was way more in tune than I understood. Happy Mother's Day (soon)!! Thank you for your care and love. :)
At least the temple soundtrack is amazing.
I love zelda 2. Its like dark soul's great great great grandad.
Good point!
Very impressive that you can make so many videos so quickly
Haha, thanks!
He has no life lol 😂
@@miguel300ish 😮
@@miguel300ish neither do you probably
@@aaronjames3228 yup that pretty much it ...
Has surprisingly deep gameplay for NES
-Basic platforming gameplay mixed with top down gameplay (even if really basic)
-High and low frontal attack + up and down attacks on both the player and enemies
-Projectiles attacks on both the player and enemies
-Blocking enemies attacks but only when not attacking
-High and low blocking on both the player and enemies
-Level-up with some decisions during it
-Can use different magic moves with its own mana gauge
-Some upgrades that stay with you through rest of the game
Thats more than what you have at the start of Hollow Knight
I bought Zelda II THREE times (Wii, Wii U, 3DS), and I have it on my Switch through Switch Online.
Are you a single lady?
Yep same here. Multiple copies lol
I appreciate its difficulty. It did indeed make the game longer and it is worth playing to its fullest.
Zelda 2 was great. I would really like a sequel.
I want a remake, but a sequel also sounds awesome.
Zelda 3 a link to three past
Zelda 3 is a prequel, not a sequel kupo
There is a fan sequel called Panoply of Calatia. Look it up. It's got the Zelda 1 AND 2 charm. It's on PureZC.
Agreed. I'd love to see a follow-up, especially on the implications of having TWO Princess Zeldas in the world at the same time (Zelda from Zelda I, and the Sleeping Zelda).
I enjoyed Zelda 2 quite a bit. I almost bought a Philips CDI based on it having another Side Scrolling Zelda game, but it was way too expensive and I didn't like using a TV remote control as a game controller. The Link power up in Mario Maker 2 is quite satisfying.
I reckon if this game got a second chance and was remade, it would be a mastapeece
Thought it would be the CDI games they regretted most. Zelda 2 is actually my favorite game of the series.
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link is one of my favorite games of all time. Best sounds for games in those days. High difficulty level. Great game. Wish we could level up to 16. I still play this game. From time to time currently on my way to the Maze Palace
By the way he describes the conception, particularly the sidescrolling and top-down switch, it feels like Link Between Worlds was a bit of a realization of that concept.
We did get Link in Super Smash Bros and the Zelda II Hyrule Temple stage and music in Melee on forward, so it had some good come from it.
I had no idea! After being a longtime Zelda fan, I'm playing the games in release order for the first time, and this arrived just as I'm finishing the first one. Well made video!
Was expecting it to Link's Crossbow Training or something lol
Was expected the CDI but realized that Miyamoto didn't work on those games
LINK'S CROSSBOW TRAINING WAS GOOD
Sofia kawaiicute IKR! They should port it to the Switch
@@lucleadergaming3487 YEAH!
Growing up my best friend had an NES and I played both Zelda 1 & 2 quite, but remembered liking Z2 slightly more. Fast forward to now and I just recently got the NES Mini where I revisited both games again, and both brought back fond memories and I played for hours. That said I did find Z2 quite hard and almost frustrating at first and can't imagine how I ever played this without the save points the mini has.
Zelda II is one of my favortie Zeldas to revisit.
Lately, when I play, I tackle Death Mountain immediately after the first palace. It levels you up a lot if you get far enough each time, and eventually you get the hammer. It's a great way to grind while still (eventually) making progress.
What?! Zelda II outsold Ocarina of Time in Japan? That's mind blowing.
Probably because the n64 actually bombed in Japan. It sat in a distant third place behind the PlayStation and the Saturn.
I remember being a kid when this game was released. maybe for 5 seconds I was disappointed that it wasn't like the first one but after playing I quickly began to love it and to this day it's one of my favorite is Zelda games
I always figured that since the series was just starting out, that they decided to try something a little different with the second one. You know, see how that worked.
That didn't work, so they went back to the formula of the original.
Seems to me, they could stand to do a reimagining, reconstruction of this, and it could be pretty cool.
I was so happy to see it added to the NES Switch library! Now I’m playing just about every day.
Great video, I look forward to seeing more!
Thank you!
"i cant beat the final boss"
"thats the tutorial boss"
I have to admit I love the music you use it’s so relaxing
1st time playing this was when GameCube sold the console with the Zelda collection set it had a demo of WindWaker
I only play OoT Majors Mask and Zelda2 cause I'm a big Castlevania fan
Zelda II is one of my favorite games, I remember how happy I was the first time I beat Shadow Link. I think Nintendo should make a new Zelda game in this style.
Yeah, or even give it the remake treatment like Link's Awakening got. They could make their original vision now that the hardware is there to support it
@@Ryan-is-me Eww, no, they made LA look like it's for toddlers. Wouldn't fit the darker tone of Zelda 2. It should look like Shovel Knight or Curse of the Moon, for example.
For years as a kid Zelda 1 and 2 were my favorite to play even though I had never beat the first temple of either (still haven't beaten them to this day) but it didn't turn me from the series and I in fact went on to play and beat Link to the Past, Ocarina, Majora, and Twilight really loving those. I haven't played all the titles but Zelda 2 was the first one I fell fully in love with because it drew me in with it's D&D style of RP.
Zelda II was actually my first experience on the Zelda series. I think they need to make another one like it but my gosh, none of these random secret walls and stuff
so much hate for zelda II? i don't get it.. i really like this game 😙🤗
I'm gonna agree with projared here and say that zelda 2 is HIGHLY underrated
Bro I have war flashbacks whenever someone mentions projared
Say what? LoZ2 was a good game. Yes, it moved away from the top-down stuff and had too many insta-death pits (the one thing I loathed about the game) but going back and playing it today, it is a good game.
This was actually the first Zelda game I remember "playing". I was a little kid who got gifted this for the gameboy, and I couldn't figure out where to go or what was going on. I didn't start liking Zelda until I I started to play the gameboy port of link to the past
Zelda 2 was amazing , they need to bring back the music .
when I hear that boss music all jazzed up on Smash bros it gives me the chills!
At 0:53 you said 1980, and it should have been 1987 or 88. Otherwise, good video. I found your channel recently and really like it.
Bobby Jones yeah I was surprised there weren’t more comments about that! I even replayed that part to make sure I heard it right lol
ᒪᗩEᖇIᑕ Thomas haha. Same. I questioned which timeline I was in.
1980!? I was like HUH?!?! I felt like I woke up in a Shrine with no memory.
He meant to say late 1980s but forgot the s
@@cookieblobber I thought that too initially, but, then you would think he would have said THE late 1980's. That's most likely what he meant though, and if not, whatever. We all flub from time to time.
Played it when I was a kid on my cousin's Nintendo over 25 years ago, never once thought it was anywhere close to a bad game. It wasn't easy, for sure - and I absolutely sucked at games back then too XD- but every time I played it, and I played it a lot of times, it was a lot of fun. I didn't know anybody who cared that it was different from the first one back then. In fact, we loved it more for that reason. If I wanted an identical game to the first one, I'd replay the first one.
I love The Legend of Zelda franchise, but I absolutely hated playing Zelda II. The enemies were way too cumbersome unfair. The iron knuckle is a particularly good example of how bad the fighting in the game was; every single time you think you can fake him out, he gets you, and you can take loads of damage from him, so you end up just spamming the attack and spending forever trying not to get hit (oh, but you will). The ONLY level in that game that was fun for me was the final palace where you fight Gannon. The iron knuckle in THAT level was greatly improved. I loved that they added the jumping for him to spice things up, but they also gave him that weak point under the suit so if you jumped up while he was jumping, you could take him down much faster that way. And the flaming bird enemy was fun in that game too, because you had to time the fireballs right and get in there and just lay waste to that thing. That’s it, though, everything else was a horrible experience for me.
Haven’t watched it yet, but I’m guessing the game is Link’s Crossbow Training
Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot about Zelda II
i dont even think miyamoto made that one
Link's crossbow training is just bland but could be much better.
@@lorelo. is it basically the archery minigame in oot and mm?
Aw what? I loved Zelda 2! It was my first Zelda game.
As so mine. I still get a nostalgia dosis from playing it from time to time.
I just hope at some point Nintendo won't have any other zelda games to remake and just remake this one for us.
Same here. My NES came with that game in the box.
It was my first Zelda game, and the second game in general. I had it for a birthday, and I was soooo happy I got it. I would play it for hours so that I only stopped when my left thumb got too sore from the joypad. It's still one of my all time favourite games! Sure it's different from other Zelda games, but to me it just means it's more unique, not that it's worse.
@Retro Entertainment Channel These young gamers are whiny kids who can't handle a challenge. Instead of trying to earn something they take the lazy way out and ask for things to be nerf.
It was the first Zelda I've beaten.
I m glad experience points and skill points aren't in (most) Zelda, it's the whole reason I love zelda series because I hated level grinding. Item grinding is fine to me tho, its usually optional, and I don't do it unless I'm forced to
“I just can’t beat the final boss”
“Damn that’s crazy bro”