Evinrude E-tec 50hp outboard motor. Fuel Pump Repair.
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I am trying to help out a friend repair his Evinrude E-tec 50HP. So far the outboard engine won't start. When my friend brought the outboard to me, all he said was my outboard engine will not start. The engine is not getting any fuel to the fuel injectors. It looks like it has a high pressure fuel pump problem. The engine cranks but won't start. He did say that the outboard motor was hard to start be for it quit.
Good work ! I have 6 old johnyrude ! 5 , 6 , 7.5 , 15 , 20 and 40 hp (big twin) and wen i have a little problem i see your preview video and i fixed ! Thank you ! , for explications .
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Modern outboards are engeneering wonders, regardless of the make, but with complexity comes vulnerability ... and higher main components replacement costs. By the way, I like very much your new intro video !
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I have the same problem today.
Baterry voltage was low although was cranking good to hear. I connect the booster and he start normal
Thanks for sharing the tip.
I saw born again boating repair one. Don't remember which engine. The high pressure pump can be taken out and worked on He got it working with no money spent .
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Good video. I'm still using an 83 115 Johnson. Im not ready for these computerized engines yet.
I like the older one myself. Thanks for watching and commenting.
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Hi...I came across your video while searching for another solution for my 50hp etec...A few years back I had trouble starting my engine too and after a lot of searching I was told to dismantle the air separator , blow it out and reassemble. I don't know why...I didn't find anything but it started up like a dream after that. Just a thought.
Good video btw.
Barry
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Like UR vids alot. I have bought a 115hp etec 2006/2007 Evinrude that was under water for a short while. I dont know much about it more than they took it up, sparayed _WD40 al over it and satarted it. The let it run for about half an our. but they meant it smoked alot. It was company owned so it then just didnt get used for about fiver years. Then they they let a dealer check it. They also startedi it, thats al i know. Theu gave a prize lika 7K to fix it, they wnated tho change cabels and stuff. Then i bought it. It turns, no problem. There are absolutltly no signs that it has been under water. No abnormal korrosion or so. All electric konectors look fine and so on. I dont even know if there is anything wrong with it. I suspect i can have a injectorproblem maby?
I wonder, is there any chanse you- would share the software so if i have to change injector i can. The dealers here (Sweden) take 700 for a injector but i have to have the software to change it and they don let me get it. :(
Thanks for great vids. Hope U can share the software? plz...
The version of the evinrude software I got {from ebay} will only let you do so much. The oem software you have to put your serial number in for the motor you are working on. This one you can not up date the software or the engine updates. The only thing it will do is tell you what is worng.
You say your not certified,but you sure fooled an ase certified Auto mechanic.I can tell you know what your talking about andxhave done your research.... good job. I dont know alot about boat engines and i learn from you buddy.
Thanks for your kind words. Making the videos and repairing the outboards is some thing I enjoy doing. The research is the best part for me. I like to see how things work. Thanks for commenting and Stay Well.
Before you order a new VST you should verify whether the EMM really does pull the fuel pump's negative lead to ground. You only verified the 55V positive lead. Unfortunately the Carter fuel pump is no longer available. You need to order the new replacement VST which is a more durable design and comes with a bunch of fuel lines to make it fit in older engines.
I will check the the negative leak to ground. Thanks for the information. If you think of anything else let me know. Thanks!!
The cps is red because the motor isn't turning. It doesn't know the crankshafts position until the motor turns. When you are cranking or running it will be green.
Have look at channel for Kodibas he is outboard expert as his job and specalises in Johnson/Evinrude...
Only is pump servicible or can it be replaced another models fuel pump..?
I got a 2018 e Tec and I'm pretty sure this would work and don't make sense. Unhook your your negative terminal wait 2 seconds and hook her back up. Should work perfectly. I has to do it with mine all the time
I will sure give that a try. Thanks for the tip. Did you see on the internet that BRP is going to stop making evinrude outboards. I sure hate that.
O meu apresentou um problema semelhante, fiz uma verificação e identifiquei que a bomba de combustível estava travada, retirei ela fora e apliquei uma corrente entre 12v e 14v, ora com a polaridade correta e ora com a polaridade invertida, após várias repetições a bomba de combustível destravou e o motor voltou a funcionar normalmente.
Estou com o mesmo problema Jonathas, pode me passar seu whats pra conversarmos melhor?
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Have U seen my answers in the earlier post?
I have posted part number on a much cheaper pump, It is the same as in older ficht engines. Dont need to by the VST but check the filter in VST.
Here in Sweden it cost about 300 USD but they are adding like thief's so i would be surprised if the price "over there" are much over 100 USD. Plz, let me know.
Yes I did see your answers on the earlier post. Thank you for sharing that information.
If you don’t mind me asking, where do you get your parts for evinrude outboards? I’m having one heck of a time just getting new gaskets for my thermostat housing and cover
I buy most of my parts from boatnet.com. Thank you for watching.
What the spark on plugs look like, is there a rebuild kit for duel pump or just by unit, then I'd ask how rare they are hence cost?
I did put a new set of spark plugs in and I index them to the fuel injector. So far all I could find for the high pressure pump is the pump and the evaporator as one unit.
I have a 40hp e-tec with fuel issues. Could you please tell me the make/model number of the plug and code reader that I can connect to my laptop. Thanks for a great video.
I found that on ebay.
www.ebay.com/usr/demyaaleks
Hello.. The line coming to one injector of the 30 hp etech engine is not working. ecu is solid. There is a problem with the electrical installation. I wonder which cables should I look at? Can you please help?
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I'm not an outboard mechanic but do automotive and diesel work - did you check to see if the low pressure pump was supplying fuel to the booster pump???
I did check the low pressure pump and it was pumping fine. The owner of the outboard decided to sell the boat as is and not fix it. I wanted to fix it and not leave everybody hanging but he would not want to buy a new pump. He was going to advertise it for 2500. I thought about buying it but, with the motor being over size for that boat I would not want to sell like that.
Of course it wont start, its an etec! The motor is worth more as scrap aluminum than as a running motor. Own a etec? I hope you have strong arms to paddle back to shore!
The owner offered the motor to me and I said I was not interested. I took a class on e-tec and they make is sound like it is the best motor ever. Remember It's a sorry duck that don't praise his own pond.
Was the code reader new or used from Ebay? What make is it and what manufacturers is it compatible with? Thank you for doing these videos!!
The code reader I thought it was new. It looked new when I received it. I don't think that you can update the EMM with this program. I believe it just reads codes and test.
This one just did the evinrude. I did see others that would do a few difference brands. But not for this price.
I have ordered a new pump and will get it on Monday. Keep your fingers crossed for me that it will solve my problem. It costed like 300USD and are worth 50...
Be sure and let me know if it solves your problem.
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Yep. I changed the pump and got it running. But there are some issue with the first cylinder (the lower left) I have spark and comp but it wont run properly on it. If i manual, pump upp fuel pressure it runs on al cylinders for a while but it smokes blue like crazy. When i loose the first (lowest) cylinder it stops smoke. It makes me belie that i have a problem with the first fuel pump so i get fuel in the crankcase for a while. That should end upp in the lowest cylinder? I will check that tomorrow.
Or have you any ideas?
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Crap I checked the spark again and there is none on cyl,1. I were 100% sure there was when i tested it before? Well, that may be good news since i dont have a fuel problem anymore. The high pressure pump works great.
Now i have to find out why i have no spark.
If you vant to check out the fuel pump it has part number EMM 139939563 at least here. Whats the price at your dealer for it?
It fits the only difference is that it has another electric connector and now measure schrader.
Hope this may help someone.
would you post a link on the code reader you purchased.
I found that on ebay.
www.ebay.com/usr/demyaaleks
Hi, New subscriber here, have you removed the FP from the VST where you mentioned it could pop off? I stripped mine down and there is a filter at the bottom of it and was blocked with bits of old fuel hose so maybe that is why the pump is running but no pressure on the high pressure side? Keen to know the outcome as this is the same engine as mine. By the way you look like the comedian Jethro.
Thank you for subscribing. I have not taken the fuel filter and cleaned it yet. I did remove the pump and try to make it pump. I am thinking the pump burned up because of running dry. The owner of the motor wants to get the part. He is trying to order a after market pump from a online dealer. I posted the video in april and here it is July and no pump yet. If the pump ever gets here it will be a $65.00 Fix. Keep watching.
Dam the fuel pump cost as much as a good used 50hp 2 stroke . No thanks they can keep that fancy stuff.
Where did you buy you diagnostics cable and software?
I bought that off ebay. The software was not a easy install but it did work after it was done. It will only give diagnostics it will not update the computer.
I bought this boat it was the vst pump.
Was it the high pressure pump itself or VST all was bad
High pressure pump.
The cps crankshaft position sensor Does it have to be calibrated with the software
The software I used only showed if it was working.
@@OmFishing thank you
Hello.. I'm having issues with the high pressure pump I'm sure.. when I test it with the key on I get 12v. When I'm cranking i don't see it move from 12v..... should I be looking for AC?
Also.. there is not pressure or lack there of out of the high side of the pump
The stator is a 55 volt AC system. The EMM converts AC from the stator to DC. I had the same problem. I had fuel at the low side of the pump. The pump just would not run. I check found the pump on mine was bad. I could not find just the pump you have to buy the whole unit.
@@OmFishing ok. I'm not reading 55 ac at the pump
I have preformed stator resistance check, all ohm values are good
Is the a way to check the 55volts at the stator?
Correction Kodibass....
I am checking what is available for this model. I have seen Kodibass very knowledgeable. Thanks for watching.
60 HP e-tec engine will not start unless you unplug the fuel pump wire. then it will start up. Then plug it back in and it will run until you turn it off then it will not start up again until unplug the fuel pump wire. Anyone heard of this happening? I have new injectors, new fuel pump, new lift pump, new coils. all the voltage seam to be right oil pump is working. Anyone got a clue about this.
I'm way late to the game here but I have taken lots of fuel pumps apart, cleaned the cogs or gear wheels with carb cleaner and NEVER have not been able to get one going again. Its usually the old gas that drys up and leaves a varnish that stops it. You have nothing to loose. Sometimes just removing the pump and spraying some Berrymans carb cleaner in the outlet will get it going if you let it soak in there for 30 mins. th-cam.com/video/OjORg9gu92o/w-d-xo.html
quantum fuel call them the pump is only 80$
I just bought a new vapor tank with fuel pump for 200 ,
That is not bad. 200 to get your motor up and running. Well as far as outboard engines go.
@@OmFishing it is still messing up , putting a low pressure fuel pump on it ,and replacing fuel lines
@@centralscrutinizer76 Did up check the high pressure side. That is what my problem was the high pressure pump. When I put my high pressure fuel gauge on the port no pressure.
@@OmFishing I am going into it deep next week waiting on the low pressure fuel pump . I put a new high pressure pump on it ,it did the same thing , run perfect until you open it up then after about a minute it shuts down and won't restart. Not sure it maybe a fuel line collapse. It will idle for hours no problem. Makes it hard to diagnose in the yard
Are you running it on a hose or in a tank? When it was running did you have a gauge on the high pressure fuel port to see fuel pressure?
Does the "inlet" of the pump have a fine screen strainer , they do on low hp E-tecs , but the pumps on those outboards are inside the Vapor seperator tank,, I had the inlet screen plug solid on a 25 hp e-tech and no pressure at all cleaned it and worked perfectly after that. .. see if there is any fine mesh strainer on the inlet of the pump .. check inside the inlet of the pumo as will as the intake feeding it ,, just a sugestion .. also make sure the spring loaded presure regulater in the VST is not stuck open , and be sure to "Check" the tiny in line filter hidden inside the fuel injecter return fuel nipple ,, if its pluged it will force the fuel pressue high stressing the pump its a mantanence item many people are unaware of. ,, th-cam.com/video/ur5NkAei3-w/w-d-xo.html Just be aware its there .. you may want to clean out the Vapor seperator tank, .. also be very careful when removing fuel lines connected to the VST its easy to break the plastic fittings ..
Thank You for all the information.
BYE a Yamaha -problem solved............American techic dont work.....and yes i have had Evinrude and Johnson same SHIT...
I have watched the training videos for service and repair. It does seem like there is a lot of high tech stuff that has to work right to make it run. So much for the keep it simple.
E-tec....crap...
I agree that Evinrude could sell the parts instead of the thing being one big unit.