I'm watching the RWBY roundtables and a quote I loved was "Rock bottom has a basement, surprise".I think that perfectly captures Ruby's breakdown and beating from Neo.
Its actually 2 seperate new VA's the original VA left the company (idk why), the first new VA unfortunately died either before he could finish the recordings, or they had to rewrite some scripts, so they needed a second one.
@@TabbyVee Original VA left the company because he was caught embezzaling funds from RT projects to fuel Gen:Lock which lead to cancellation of 2 other RT projects.
@@NickTemperistic Wrong. Original VA was caught embezzeling funds from other RT projects for Gen:Lock. Billy Kametz was to be the new VA for Torchwich during the dub of Queendom, but because of cancer he had to retire and sadly passed away. They ended up getting a new VA to voice for Torchwick for RWBY and Queendom now.
@@TabbyVee As best I can tell he expected people to work for their pay, and the same people who forced out Qrow's original VA over never-proven charges got him fired.
@@arielfetters5662 Yeah no, he abused his position to force out other competing ideas to push his, and then crunched the team aggressively. Get your bs out of here.
we just watched a 17 year old go threw a psychological horror show of all her regrets and watched her kill her best friend and then had someone talk her into commiting suicide basically
well bro you got your wish, Ruby is now completely broken, also i somehow feel like they are so gonna go for curiosity killed the cat thing. Also leave it to Neo to know how to hit the hardest psychologically. Another note i feel like cat taking over a person is what the Nightmare Grim would have done had it completely taken over the host in Icequeendom.
@@DimiDawg Yeah, me neither but it does talk quite a bit about their story. Just hoping that there is still more for Neo and that they’re not ending her in this or the next volume.
I'm pretty sure...the comment on Roman's voice is a big sign of how little you know about the goings on with RWBY. He legit left because he abused his position as head of the animation department and was embezzling funds from other RT productions to try and push Gen:Lock ahead. He legit lead to the cancellation of Nomad of Nowhere and RWBY Chibi, and why Volumes 4-5 felt abit off. Billy Kametz was stated to be the new voice of Roman when Ice Queendom got a dub but he has sadly passed away from cancer and they got another VA to cover Roman across everything now. (In fact after that Cinder and Neo picture there was memorial message for Billy Kametz but ya paused before it was done)
Right, that’s why she says, “I died, didn’t I?”. Neo asked if that’s what happened because she doesn’t know for sure. It’s also why Lionheart and Clover don’t actually say anything.
The reason why _wby and Jaune just stood there is because none of them had context for what was going on and they didn’t have any reason to believe it was something dangerous
@@DimiDawg they didnt even see her give ruby the tea from what they all saw she was just drinking tea on the floor also they were in shock from seeing both neo the cat etc
No nothing official yet. But I’ve been writing my own story. I watch shows from a critical point of view and have learned a lot from many works and creators so you’ll hear me mention stuff about story telling.
Hey! I'm really happy that you continue to do your reactions the same week the episode premieres, as it gives me something to look forward to! Most reactors continue to wait the extra week due to prior RT regulations, which I don't know it they even apply now that it's on Crunchyroll. I really enjoy hearing your perspectives each week!
Glad you enjoy… well reactions are being released as they usually were…only difference is that in previous seasons we would’ve recorded the reaction last week and released this week..now we’re just dropping same day
@@DimiDawg Yes, was just commenting that the majority of reactors still seem to be following the old rule of waiting a week before releasing it, but I'm glad you're doing it the same week as it gives us something to look forward to right after viewing the episode
I mean I don't believe anyone thinks that ruby is like actually dead, considering she's the main character, but she's definitely going to be changed at least mentally from this experience, however they decide to do it
Three things. 1. For all they knew, it was a trap neo set up, they didn't know it truly was her until she looked them dead in the face with a "I'm sorry for doing this" look, and vise versa for Ruby, likely thought her team and Jaune showing up were just more clones come to kick her further down into drinking the tea 2. This likely played out faster from their POV, like they ran up to her as she's drinking the tea unable to stop her, it just seemed slow to us for the shock factor and so they can have Roman's final jab at Ruby 3. If you watch Yang after Ruby falls, other than looking around as the mansion starts crumbling, she's just staring at the spot mentally checked out, and likely would've fallen to her knees if Blake wasn't supporting her, and as the cat blasts them with Thunderbolt, Blake steps in front of Yang to take most of the hit for her
21:43 Hence maybe why Blake seems to hold her back....🧐Or maybe just keep Yang from collapsing onto the floor(?). 🤔I wonder if Jaune, much less Weiss and others, understood the Tree-Leaves? At most, if I ran in to see Neo just looming over such a defeated and hopeless-eyed Ruby Rose, ready to drink some mysterious "tea" that Neo is allowing her to drink?......Yeah, at most, I'd assume it's poisonous. Yet, even Weiss stood there at shock-&-awe.
@@DimiDawg That depends on when Yang was about to run. 🤔 If Yang ran AFTER the Pit opened up? Yeah, a teensy bit too late. If BEFORE the pit, 😬Yeah, Blake, um.....unfortunate instincts. I'm more upset on Weiss than Blake. The latter Ran out of buIIets, and even if she coulda thrown her kusarigama-ribbon, Ruby wouldn't have tried to catch sooo SOME slack cut. Meanwhile? Weiss.......did you run out of your Glyph-Semblance, again?! 🥴 Jaune........did you JUST run out of your Gravity-Dust in your Shield? You used it last episode/chapter.....😒I better not see you use it again, later on. lol
@@KingMufasa_8 I don't (fully) blame them for being confused about the teacup. 💁♂️However, *My minimum expectations* was that they'd did *_Not try to bring Ruby to their proximity._* Examples: Weiss _(Before Sinkhole)_ could've used her Glyphs to move her towards them, or (Arriving Sinkhole) even make a platform to block the hole. Jaune could've pushed Ruby aways via Gravity-Dust. Yes, ANOTHER sinkhole woulda opened on Ruby, but it would've been some kind of action. Jaune may still be upset, but he heard Weiss' words & and knows Ruby is acting concernedly off. His maturity and/albeit from feara & trauma could've mmmMaybe make him be the 1st to act. Weiss, being the one who picked up on Ruby's venting keywords - the least upset towards her - should've been the more/other proactive person to jump in to Save her. Yang & Blake had the less-versatile tools (lest maybe Yang used explosive shells to either shoot the cup Or knock her sister away). To answer your question in short: Yeah, Why not....or even to stop said-Ruby with dead, hopeless eyes and wounded body from drinking a suspiciously given teacup. It's the same as it ever was with "This Character could've used their powers [like this] or [at this point]." It's NOT AS BAD as Volume 5 or Volume 8....😊just pointing out how momentum & drama could've been kept WITHOUT making the characters dumbfounded and standing still.
@@Alex-cz3te I feel like there would be some legal issues with that lol since it’s an official production…otherwise everyone would do it an not have to pay anyone
The cat is trying to go to rement probably not spelling it right I would love to see cat neo fight Salem it would be interesting I wonder what kind of magic abilities ruby would have when she comes back
a person is ready for Ascension or not? What if Ruby sees her past self again, but this time her past self guides her to her Summer's grave because "the tree isn't a place you go, it's a place you know"?
Neo over here pulling a Matrix level Agent Smith BS, with all that cloning of people Ruby has known for years at Beacon and Atlas. Like wow, talk about an indirect Matrix reference, Dimi. 😎😂🤣
@@DimiDawg Your welcome, then, for helping point it out. 😁. I was wondering if Little and Ruby somehow....merges. Seeing as how they've grown so attached to her - risked their life for her.......I don't know how the Tree will react or do the "ascending" process. This is the first time I can't decide on which possibility is most plausible. But I do have suspicions now on whether it was Alix who escaped...or Lewis (mind you, I never watched the actual Fairy tale Shorts nor read them, so I don't know if that's a genuine mystery or not.....which is good, lol).
I just realized that the cat is pissed at Jaune because Jaune kept giving himself a new purpose (and therefore couldn’t be taken over).
That is honestly hilarious to imagine the cat raging at Jaune gaining a new purpose time and time again
that's very cool to think about
*"Goodness, I am tired of your little sob story. You can't even accept your own futility."*
CC finally allowed to show his inner Akechi.
RIP Billy he couldn't finish before he passed that's why there are 2 voice actors
...... when rwby want to do psychological horror they do it well.
I actually low key want them to do a pure horror series
that
I'm watching the RWBY roundtables and a quote I loved was "Rock bottom has a basement, surprise".I think that perfectly captures Ruby's breakdown and beating from Neo.
"She has to go on a journey" Oh she went through one all right... Just not the one any of us wanted
Actually Roman va was actually voices from orginal voice actor and new va I belive it says in credits
Its actually 2 seperate new VA's the original VA left the company (idk why), the first new VA unfortunately died either before he could finish the recordings, or they had to rewrite some scripts, so they needed a second one.
@@TabbyVee Original VA left the company because he was caught embezzaling funds from RT projects to fuel Gen:Lock which lead to cancellation of 2 other RT projects.
@@TabbyVee Pretty sure the original VA died which is why there is a new Roman VA
@@NickTemperistic Wrong. Original VA was caught embezzeling funds from other RT projects for Gen:Lock. Billy Kametz was to be the new VA for Torchwich during the dub of Queendom, but because of cancer he had to retire and sadly passed away. They ended up getting a new VA to voice for Torchwick for RWBY and Queendom now.
@@mertvyi4252 Oh I see thanks for the info
This ep was insane
It was.
In the visual novel "Roman Holiday" is shows Neo's whole backstory on who she was before she took that name and how she first met Torchwick.
The first picture on the wall is straight up from the novel cover.
Did you really, genuinely think that Grey Haddock was going to be welcomed back to have ANYTHING to do with RT ever again?
What happened with Grey btw? Never even knew he left RT
Why what’s happend
@@TabbyVee As best I can tell he expected people to work for their pay, and the same people who forced out Qrow's original VA over never-proven charges got him fired.
@@Aesc_the_voyagerI believe he had
cancer
@@arielfetters5662 Yeah no, he abused his position to force out other competing ideas to push his, and then crunched the team aggressively. Get your bs out of here.
we just watched a 17 year old go threw a psychological horror show of all her regrets and watched her kill her best friend and then had someone
talk her into commiting suicide basically
She fell with little which would mean little red riding hood
Neo’s doing a mix of preying on Ruby’s insecurities, and cold reading. She’s making assumptions based on what she knows.
gold
If they had warnings in front of every episode they would probably lose a lot of people before they even start watching ngl
if you’re interested in neo’s backstory I recommend reading her book. Everything hinting at her backstory in this episode lines up with it.
It was literally a mix of two VAs, including the one who passed who recorded his lines previously.
well bro you got your wish, Ruby is now completely broken, also i somehow feel like they are so gonna go for curiosity killed the cat thing. Also leave it to Neo to know how to hit the hardest psychologically. Another note i feel like cat taking over a person is what the Nightmare Grim would have done had it completely taken over the host in Icequeendom.
Torchwick's original VA left the company awhile ago. His new voice actor, Billy Kametz, died in June 2022 due to cancer, so he needed a NEW new VA.
I believe there is a novel that talk in depth about Neo and Roman backstories.
havent read any of them
@@DimiDawg
Yeah, me neither but it does talk quite a bit about their story. Just hoping that there is still more for Neo and that they’re not ending her in this or the next volume.
I'm pretty sure...the comment on Roman's voice is a big sign of how little you know about the goings on with RWBY. He legit left because he abused his position as head of the animation department and was embezzling funds from other RT productions to try and push Gen:Lock ahead. He legit lead to the cancellation of Nomad of Nowhere and RWBY Chibi, and why Volumes 4-5 felt abit off. Billy Kametz was stated to be the new voice of Roman when Ice Queendom got a dub but he has sadly passed away from cancer and they got another VA to cover Roman across everything now. (In fact after that Cinder and Neo picture there was memorial message for Billy Kametz but ya paused before it was done)
Pretty Coincidental that Roman Torchwick’s VA was stealing lol.
not my job to pay attention to the company's issues.. i just watch the show
@@lawbringer_179 Haddock became Torchwick irl, and it wasn't pretty.
@@rebelfighter5249 Thanks for the good laugh :D
Neo didn't see Penny's death, she was already falling at that point. (Many of Neo's characters are assumptions, I think)
Right, that’s why she says, “I died, didn’t I?”. Neo asked if that’s what happened because she doesn’t know for sure. It’s also why Lionheart and Clover don’t actually say anything.
my comment was more toward her human form.. not her being alive.. but i didnt translate that well enough
i am genuinely concerned youre rejoicing lmao
I am
The reason why _wby and Jaune just stood there is because none of them had context for what was going on and they didn’t have any reason to believe it was something dangerous
nah... they didnt think neo was just giving ruby some tea.. they heard gunfire and ruby is covered in wounds... they shoulda done something
@@DimiDawg they didnt even see her give ruby the tea from what they all saw she was just drinking tea on the floor also they were in shock from seeing both neo the cat etc
By written, you mean actual works, research essays, etc?
No nothing official yet. But I’ve been writing my own story. I watch shows from a critical point of view and have learned a lot from many works and creators so you’ll hear me mention stuff about story telling.
Hey! I'm really happy that you continue to do your reactions the same week the episode premieres, as it gives me something to look forward to! Most reactors continue to wait the extra week due to prior RT regulations, which I don't know it they even apply now that it's on Crunchyroll. I really enjoy hearing your perspectives each week!
Glad you enjoy… well reactions are being released as they usually were…only difference is that in previous seasons we would’ve recorded the reaction last week and released this week..now we’re just dropping same day
@@DimiDawg Yes, was just commenting that the majority of reactors still seem to be following the old rule of waiting a week before releasing it, but I'm glad you're doing it the same week as it gives us something to look forward to right after viewing the episode
ive told other reactors in the discord.. so they usually get it up same week
Admin cat angry
Also, the "mouse" is named Little.
Possibly after Alice Liddell from Wonderland.
So the mouse is Alyx.
The episode where ruby dies and the haters rejoice
They fooled me with Yang. Not falling for it a second time.. right?
I mean I don't believe anyone thinks that ruby is like actually dead, considering she's the main character, but she's definitely going to be changed at least mentally from this experience, however they decide to do it
Three things.
1. For all they knew, it was a trap neo set up, they didn't know it truly was her until she looked them dead in the face with a "I'm sorry for doing this" look, and vise versa for Ruby, likely thought her team and Jaune showing up were just more clones come to kick her further down into drinking the tea
2. This likely played out faster from their POV, like they ran up to her as she's drinking the tea unable to stop her, it just seemed slow to us for the shock factor and so they can have Roman's final jab at Ruby
3. If you watch Yang after Ruby falls, other than looking around as the mansion starts crumbling, she's just staring at the spot mentally checked out, and likely would've fallen to her knees if Blake wasn't supporting her, and as the cat blasts them with Thunderbolt, Blake steps in front of Yang to take most of the hit for her
To be fair to Yang, the last time she ran in to save Ruby on instinct, she "died". That's some powerful negative reinforcement.
21:43
Hence maybe why Blake seems to hold her back....🧐Or maybe just keep Yang from collapsing onto the floor(?).
🤔I wonder if Jaune, much less Weiss and others, understood the Tree-Leaves?
At most, if I ran in to see Neo just looming over such a defeated and hopeless-eyed Ruby Rose, ready to drink some mysterious "tea" that Neo is allowing her to drink?......Yeah, at most, I'd assume it's poisonous. Yet, even Weiss stood there at shock-&-awe.
she "died" doing her job as the older sister... and if blake was holding her back.. boi that doenst do good for my view on her character either
@@DimiDawg That depends on when Yang was about to run. 🤔
If Yang ran AFTER the Pit opened up? Yeah, a teensy bit too late. If BEFORE the pit, 😬Yeah, Blake, um.....unfortunate instincts.
I'm more upset on Weiss than Blake. The latter Ran out of buIIets, and even if she coulda thrown her kusarigama-ribbon, Ruby wouldn't have tried to catch sooo SOME slack cut.
Meanwhile? Weiss.......did you run out of your Glyph-Semblance, again?!
🥴
Jaune........did you JUST run out of your Gravity-Dust in your Shield? You used it last episode/chapter.....😒I better not see you use it again, later on.
lol
@@notagreen-fiend9029 i'm confused, what were you expecting them to do with that stuff? Stop ruby from drinking from a cup....?
@@KingMufasa_8 I don't (fully) blame them for being confused about the teacup. 💁♂️However, *My minimum expectations* was that they'd did *_Not try to bring Ruby to their proximity._*
Examples:
Weiss _(Before Sinkhole)_ could've used her Glyphs to move her towards them, or (Arriving Sinkhole) even make a platform to block the hole.
Jaune could've pushed Ruby aways via Gravity-Dust. Yes, ANOTHER sinkhole woulda opened on Ruby, but it would've been some kind of action.
Jaune may still be upset, but he heard Weiss' words & and knows Ruby is acting concernedly off. His maturity and/albeit from feara & trauma could've mmmMaybe make him be the 1st to act.
Weiss, being the one who picked up on Ruby's venting keywords - the least upset towards her - should've been the more/other proactive person to jump in to Save her.
Yang & Blake had the less-versatile tools (lest maybe Yang used explosive shells to either shoot the cup Or knock her sister away).
To answer your question in short: Yeah, Why not....or even to stop said-Ruby with dead, hopeless eyes and wounded body from drinking a suspiciously given teacup.
It's the same as it ever was with "This Character could've used their powers [like this] or [at this point]."
It's NOT AS BAD as Volume 5 or Volume 8....😊just pointing out how momentum & drama could've been kept WITHOUT making the characters dumbfounded and standing still.
I know it would have been impossible to get grey to voice him but I’m still disappointed
it's not the same.. regardless of the reason..
@@DimiDawg I wonder if it would have been better to use an ai voice filter, the ai technology I’ve been seeing on TikTok is crazy
@@Alex-cz3te I feel like there would be some legal issues with that lol since it’s an official production…otherwise everyone would do it an not have to pay anyone
do you think they will save neo somehow from the cat
absolutely
The cat is trying to go to rement probably not spelling it right I would love to see cat neo fight Salem it would be interesting I wonder what kind of magic abilities ruby would have when she comes back
this is going to be very good
a person is ready for Ascension or not?
What if Ruby sees her past self again, but this time her past self guides her to her Summer's grave because "the tree isn't a place you go, it's a place you know"?
we did see summer in the reflection in ep 6.. and that would be a very cool way to physically introduce this character into the story.
@@DimiDawg i hope so and i don,t want this to end. I would like to see Ruby Rose Finally beat her inner demons.
Neo over here pulling a Matrix level Agent Smith BS, with all that cloning of people Ruby has known for years at Beacon and Atlas. Like wow, talk about an indirect Matrix reference, Dimi. 😎😂🤣
Sadly romans og voice actor passed away
But I do think they could of gotten Michael kovach for him he sounds way too similar like roman
Roman have 2 voice actors becouse Billy he passed before he finish
u actually think they’re gonna save neo? 😭😭
yes
31:53
*@DimiDawg* Little('s corpse) fell in With Ruby, too...
😟...
...a Human AND an Afteran...
😑...
..What shall happen, indeed.
i didnt see the mouse.. maybe little will become something crazy.. like a new weapon or something
@@DimiDawg Your welcome, then, for helping point it out. 😁.
I was wondering if Little and Ruby somehow....merges. Seeing as how they've grown so attached to her - risked their life for her.......I don't know how the Tree will react or do the "ascending" process.
This is the first time I can't decide on which possibility is most plausible.
But I do have suspicions now on whether it was Alix who escaped...or Lewis (mind you, I never watched the actual Fairy tale Shorts nor read them, so I don't know if that's a genuine mystery or not.....which is good, lol).
Kind of annoyed at the spoiler thumbnail :/