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Questions & Timestamps How to play -- 1:01 What emulators would you recommend? 1:30 When does the emulator lag become an issue? 2:24 Does the NES classic have tetris? 3:05 If I'm good at modern Tetris, will I be good at classic Tetris?/What are the differences? 4:02 How do you stream your gameplay from an NES? Gameplay/Mechanics -- 4:34 How do you start past level 9? 5:48 What's A type and B type? 7:36 Why does it stay on level 18 for 130 lines? I thought it changed every 10 lines. 9:00 What is the speed change between level 18 and levels 19-28? 9:41 When do you transition if you start on 19? 10:45 Why do they call level 29 a kill screen? 11:42 What's the difference between NTSC and PAL? 13:21 What is the maximum possible score on NTSC if you start on 18? Tournament Questions -- 14:14 Why is it single elimination? 15:11 Why is it 'only' Best Of 3 until you get to the finals? 16:06 Why are the finals only Best Of 5, why not Best Of 7? 16:40 Would you want it to be double elimination or Best Of 5 in quarters and Best Of 7 in finals? 17:27 If both players max out at the CTWC, who wins? 18:12 If both players max out at the CTWC qualifier, how does that work? 18:40 Who are the people behind the CTWC? General Tetris Questions -- 19:21 Have you played Tetris Effect? 19:48 Have you tried master mode? 20:27 What's your favorite Tetris piece? 20:43 Have you played Tetris 99? 22:05 Why do you like Tetris/Are you tired of Tetris? 24:18 What's hypertapping? Chat Questions -- 20:05 If you could be one Tetris piece, which one would you be? 21:23 Have you ever played TGM? 22:54 Is competitive Tetris your full-time job? 23:36 How many years have you been playing Tetris?/When did you get your first max out? 26:06 Do you have a favorite CTWC winning game? 26:28 Are there any good resources to take average Tetris play to the next level? 27:43 What makes a quick tap different from a hypertap? 28:47 Is there a good resource to practice NES Tetris or is it as simple as just playing the game? 29:36 Have you played browser Tetris?/How many other Tetris games have you played? 31:10 Would you recommend the right side well in modern Tetris games?
Jonas Neubauer April 19, 1981 - January 5, 2021 Passing the torch to the new generations. Thanks for everything Jonas! Will remember you the most in October during CTWC....
Didn’t actually know much about how you guys did it, thanks for the enlightenment! Really glad I found ya on TH-cam, will be looking forward to the future of Tetris and its’ amazing community
Hello Jonas, i am from Canada and i discovered you this year. So it will be the first year that i really follow you while your tournament. Thank you for the enternainment and gratz.
pretty good Q&A. i just started watching your videos cause that "back to back husband&wife video" showed up on my recommends, and now im so happy i found your channel. you two are so entertaining to listen to and watch play tetris while im at work. I dream to one day get a victory royale in Tetris99. almost there!
New questions because I didn’t catch the live stream: How often do you press B? Favorite Tetris match you weren’t involved in? Heather’s highest score in classic Tetris?
Retroarch has a new feature where you can negate the lag by "running ahead" a certain number of frames. I think they do this by having a second emulator running behind the scenes which is ahead of the one you're seeing on screen. Seems to work pretty well, but I haven't played on a CRT to verify that the experience is comparable.
17:24 (wrong comment in chat) max score for level 18 with tetrises only: about 1.49M; for level 19 with tetrises only 1.53M. yes, 90K difference between the transitions, but then for level 18 start still 10 levels to play and for 19 start only 9. In other words: you should compare the score difference at 140 lines (level 19 transition). max score for level 18 is 22800*33+24000*2 = 800400, and max score for level 19 is 24000*35 = 840000, so only 39600 difference, but could only matter for players who can play on 19 as good as on 18. Having played the game for a month, I know how hard level 19 is and only the best of the best of the best players (or computers) can get a tetris rate >70%.
@@loveless8241 I am not sure but I think it's about a couple of blockheads aligning themselves with the forces of good to destroy the evil empire from launching their ICBM against the world. I think you can't win bc I remember seeing a rocket getting launched at the end of the game in the shape of a space shuttle and a cathedral from Red Square.
Lv18 130-line transition is more often thought as a bug rather than a feature. Speculation is that the hold-A-to-add-10-levels is a last-minute decision (thus it appears on the user manual but not in-game) and did not get enough debugging.
I doubt this is true. The level 18 transition is quite intentional. Plus it's not like level 9 would be the fastest speed they put in the game, so they had to have a feature like that in mine.
Alternate answers that are contrary to Jonas How to play 1:01 You can use Use retroarch with runahead and a dell p2414h - this actually runs faster than NES + CRT 1:30 if you you have a slow LCD, you will have several frames delay (50ms = 3 frames). 2:24 No, but you can hack it. PC Emulator is better anyway 3:05 Yes. There is only one preview. DAS is slower so you will have to learn how to skillstop or hypertap (modern games have slower DAS) 4:02 a capture card (recommended GV-USB2 $40) is your best bet, or EZCAP ($10) Gameplay / Mechanics 7:36 Due to a bug in programming (base 16 vs base 10 number systems) 10:45 The game speeds up to 1 frame per cell. DAS isn't fast enough to reach the sides. The only way to overcome it is to tap. 13:21 Without soft drop points, 1503600 when you start from 18 and end on Level 29. From 19, 1542000 if you start on 18 and level 29
for the emulator thing, BizHawk and Mesen are the 2 most accurate emulators for NES, use one of those if you have to use emu. You will still have more delay than console no matter what emu you use, but it's still recommended to have the most accurate emulation you can.
It is actually answered at 29 minutes. Play at a level that is just a bit too fast for u. Level 5 until u hit 100000 Level 9 until u hit 300000 Level 15 until u hit 500000 Level 18and go do some maxouts
idk if i am late and you will read this but still gotta ask, what is that long bar in the bottom right corner of the screen. thanks for answering my question Heather or Jonas! :)
What are your thoughts on SNES Tetris? I only play it seriously on the NES but got hold of the Tetris / Dr Mario cart out of curiosity. Apart from it sounding like a castrated hamster when you score a Tetris is seems to behave very different to its NES counterpart, I’ve noticed a lot of instances of just endlessly getting the same piece, which just doesn’t usually happen on the NES, the game is no where near as fun.
Hi Jonas (hopefully you read the comments). I have recently gotten back into tetris. But I"ve never left either. I'm in training to come to the next tournament. I'm playing on a LCD tv at the moment unfortunately - will have an old school tv soon. So one question - will an LCD tv really mess with me that much? At the moment I can consistently hit 400 - 500k starting at level 10. I used to play at 18 (20 years ago) but it seems faster than it used to me. Maybe it's the old age (I'm 41). Or is it the lag? Basically I pretty much die at 19. But I used to be able to play it. I've seen the kill screen plenty of times. Is it the LCD holding me back?
If you're going to play on a LCD, do so on a computer monitor where the latency is much lower. Modern TVs are terrible in this respect. Some have a "Game Mode", but it's still probably 8x+ the delay of computer monitor which is in the single digit milliseconds.
I must be stupid but i still dont get the hauppauge thing... Are you running a composite split cable from the nes to both the capture card and your crt?
@Heather I wanna know if you have your youtube channel. I wanna watch you play Dr. Mario and Tetris 99!!!! I can only find so few videos of you playing. T^T
Jonas I'm a bit late here, but I noticed everyone uses the classic nes controller. What would stop someone from using something like an nes advantage joystick controller (not using the turbo and slow motion function of course)?
"The game developers decided that to cap the scoring and keep it kind of an even progression they would have you transition sooner. So thats why at a 130 lines you transition to level 19 instead of 180." Wrong. It is a bug in the code.The number of lines you cleared is stored as a bcd number, and the code devides it by 10, and compares the result to the current level. The issue is, that the current level is a normal, hexadecimal number and the number of lines divided by 10 is a bcd number. So if you start on 18 (decimal), that is 0x12 (hexadecimal), and if you reach 130 lines, after the division by 10, you get 0x13 (because it is bcd), it is bigger than the current level (0x12) so you will advance to level 19. The fact that this bug makes the game more balanced (regarding scoring) is just pure luck.
(x) Doubt. It's not uncommon for developers to take advantage or quirks like this to solve problems. If you have a source where the developer says it's a bug then I'll believe it. Don't underestimate a developers creativity when solving problems especially when given strict hardware constraints.
Personally, and this is just my opinion, hypertapping should be made tournament illegal. It's clearly damaging to the hand and wrist, Jonas can feel it, so encouraging it in young people who's joints and bones are still developing - I don't see how that's safe given the amount of practice required. I know Koryan gets away with it seemingly, but the organisers need to ask themselves if its something they can ethically promote to the youth.
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Questions & Timestamps
How to play --
1:01 What emulators would you recommend?
1:30 When does the emulator lag become an issue?
2:24 Does the NES classic have tetris?
3:05 If I'm good at modern Tetris, will I be good at classic Tetris?/What are the differences?
4:02 How do you stream your gameplay from an NES?
Gameplay/Mechanics --
4:34 How do you start past level 9?
5:48 What's A type and B type?
7:36 Why does it stay on level 18 for 130 lines? I thought it changed every 10 lines.
9:00 What is the speed change between level 18 and levels 19-28?
9:41 When do you transition if you start on 19?
10:45 Why do they call level 29 a kill screen?
11:42 What's the difference between NTSC and PAL?
13:21 What is the maximum possible score on NTSC if you start on 18?
Tournament Questions --
14:14 Why is it single elimination?
15:11 Why is it 'only' Best Of 3 until you get to the finals?
16:06 Why are the finals only Best Of 5, why not Best Of 7?
16:40 Would you want it to be double elimination or Best Of 5 in quarters and Best Of 7 in finals?
17:27 If both players max out at the CTWC, who wins?
18:12 If both players max out at the CTWC qualifier, how does that work?
18:40 Who are the people behind the CTWC?
General Tetris Questions --
19:21 Have you played Tetris Effect?
19:48 Have you tried master mode?
20:27 What's your favorite Tetris piece?
20:43 Have you played Tetris 99?
22:05 Why do you like Tetris/Are you tired of Tetris?
24:18 What's hypertapping?
Chat Questions --
20:05 If you could be one Tetris piece, which one would you be?
21:23 Have you ever played TGM?
22:54 Is competitive Tetris your full-time job?
23:36 How many years have you been playing Tetris?/When did you get your first max out?
26:06 Do you have a favorite CTWC winning game?
26:28 Are there any good resources to take average Tetris play to the next level?
27:43 What makes a quick tap different from a hypertap?
28:47 Is there a good resource to practice NES Tetris or is it as simple as just playing the game?
29:36 Have you played browser Tetris?/How many other Tetris games have you played?
31:10 Would you recommend the right side well in modern Tetris games?
Great comment, Jonas should pin this.
Pin this hero!
Impressive
You sir are a benevolent god among men
What a hero!! Deserves a pin
RIP buddy. Thanks so much for so many memorable moments like this.
RIP Jonas.. 😭
Just heard the news You will not be forgotten remember gamers never die we only respond
see u later emulator
RIP legend
Jonas Neubauer
April 19, 1981 - January 5, 2021
Passing the torch to the new generations.
Thanks for everything Jonas!
Will remember you the most in October during CTWC....
EIGHT SQUARES IN A ROW?! Figures you would say a square.
Didn’t actually know much about how you guys did it, thanks for the enlightenment! Really glad I found ya on TH-cam, will be looking forward to the future of Tetris and its’ amazing community
Big fan Jonas! Thank you so much for all you do and keep tetrising!
Hello Jonas, i am from Canada and i discovered you this year. So it will be the first year that i really follow you while your tournament. Thank you for the enternainment and gratz.
pretty good Q&A. i just started watching your videos cause that "back to back husband&wife video" showed up on my recommends, and now im so happy i found your channel. you two are so entertaining to listen to and watch play tetris while im at work. I dream to one day get a victory royale in Tetris99. almost there!
This, my friends, is a *premium* FAQ video
Love the vids thanks for the info!
Good luck against Joseph! He is a warrior
Very cool stuff. I was acutally wondering how to start on level 18. Thank you for this video.
New questions because I didn’t catch the live stream:
How often do you press B?
Favorite Tetris match you weren’t involved in?
Heather’s highest score in classic Tetris?
Jonas is the the Greg Maddux of Tetris. Makes perfect sense. I love them both and they are both the best at what they do!
RIP. The suddenness reminded me of when Grant Imahara passed suddenly of an intracranial aneurysm. Both men were beloved in their communities.
You semi match with Green Tea was epic.
The Greg Maddux analogy was brilliant.
Thanks a lot for nice video :)
Retroarch has a new feature where you can negate the lag by "running ahead" a certain number of frames. I think they do this by having a second emulator running behind the scenes which is ahead of the one you're seeing on screen. Seems to work pretty well, but I haven't played on a CRT to verify that the experience is comparable.
17:24 (wrong comment in chat) max score for level 18 with tetrises only: about 1.49M; for level 19 with tetrises only 1.53M.
yes, 90K difference between the transitions, but then for level 18 start still 10 levels to play and for 19 start only 9.
In other words: you should compare the score difference at 140 lines (level 19 transition).
max score for level 18 is 22800*33+24000*2 = 800400, and max score for level 19 is 24000*35 = 840000, so only 39600 difference, but could only matter for players who can play on 19 as good as on 18. Having played the game for a month, I know how hard level 19 is and only the best of the best of the best players (or computers) can get a tetris rate >70%.
All I want is to play Tetris in story mode. Don't anyone spoil the story and ending for me.
The Soviet Union economy fails
What would the story even be about?
@@loveless8241 I am not sure but I think it's about a couple of blockheads aligning themselves with the forces of good to destroy the evil empire from launching their ICBM against the world. I think you can't win bc I remember seeing a rocket getting launched at the end of the game in the shape of a space shuttle and a cathedral from Red Square.
@@cheetosortiz2783 imagine the best comment on this video (yours, right here) not having any upvotes.
here, take mine!
Watching this is so funny, best of 5, single elimination, major upsets
Hey thanks to you Jonas 3oh3 "Don't trust me" is my new favorite song =)
im super curious what friends think when they visit and see all the trophies
A new Jonas video? This is a good day 😉
Nice Video!
How can you be the 7-time Tetris Champion when you've never even beaten the game?
What the fuck do you mean
aguante jonas saludos de argentina
FAQin amazing
Lv18 130-line transition is more often thought as a bug rather than a feature. Speculation is that the hold-A-to-add-10-levels is a last-minute decision (thus it appears on the user manual but not in-game) and did not get enough debugging.
I doubt this is true. The level 18 transition is quite intentional. Plus it's not like level 9 would be the fastest speed they put in the game, so they had to have a feature like that in mine.
Rip Jonas.
Alternate answers that are contrary to Jonas
How to play
1:01 You can use Use retroarch with runahead and a dell p2414h - this actually runs faster than NES + CRT
1:30 if you you have a slow LCD, you will have several frames delay (50ms = 3 frames).
2:24 No, but you can hack it. PC Emulator is better anyway
3:05 Yes. There is only one preview. DAS is slower so you will have to learn how to skillstop or hypertap (modern games have slower DAS)
4:02 a capture card (recommended GV-USB2 $40) is your best bet, or EZCAP ($10)
Gameplay / Mechanics
7:36 Due to a bug in programming (base 16 vs base 10 number systems)
10:45 The game speeds up to 1 frame per cell. DAS isn't fast enough to reach the sides. The only way to overcome it is to tap.
13:21 Without soft drop points, 1503600 when you start from 18 and end on Level 29. From 19, 1542000 if you start on 18 and level 29
for the emulator thing, BizHawk and Mesen are the 2 most accurate emulators for NES, use one of those if you have to use emu. You will still have more delay than console no matter what emu you use, but it's still recommended to have the most accurate emulation you can.
Question that wasn't asked here: what level should I start on in classic Tetris/what should my goals be when I'm starting out?
It is actually answered at 29 minutes.
Play at a level that is just a bit too fast for u.
Level 5 until u hit 100000
Level 9 until u hit 300000
Level 15 until u hit 500000
Level 18and go do some maxouts
Look mom, I’m on TH-cam ! ~ Felix .. great job jonas !
If your playing on a original nes can’t you hook it up to the tv using the rf out and Capture using the composite out
4:02 is something I want to tryout for
Do you think ctwc should have a playoff match and trophy for 3rd place?
25:11 they're drift compatible
Difference between Tengen Nes Tetris and regular Nes Tetris? And do u ever practice with Tengen?
idk if i am late and you will read this but still gotta ask, what is that long bar in the bottom right corner of the screen.
thanks for answering my question Heather or Jonas!
:)
pranav kulkarni it’s the number of subs he has on twitch
just have a friend who plays melee and you will never have to worry about having a CRT on hand
okay but you do have to worry bout when that friend will let you borrow the CRT
31:18 holy cow!
Level 9 until 300,000. Good to know.
What are your thoughts on SNES Tetris? I only play it seriously on the NES but got hold of the Tetris / Dr Mario cart out of curiosity. Apart from it sounding like a castrated hamster when you score a Tetris is seems to behave very different to its NES counterpart, I’ve noticed a lot of instances of just endlessly getting the same piece, which just doesn’t usually happen on the NES, the game is no where near as fun.
Hi Jonas (hopefully you read the comments). I have recently gotten back into tetris. But I"ve never left either. I'm in training to come to the next tournament. I'm playing on a LCD tv at the moment unfortunately - will have an old school tv soon. So one question - will an LCD tv really mess with me that much? At the moment I can consistently hit 400 - 500k starting at level 10. I used to play at 18 (20 years ago) but it seems faster than it used to me. Maybe it's the old age (I'm 41). Or is it the lag? Basically I pretty much die at 19. But I used to be able to play it. I've seen the kill screen plenty of times. Is it the LCD holding me back?
boom tetris for jeff!
If you're going to play on a LCD, do so on a computer monitor where the latency is much lower. Modern TVs are terrible in this respect. Some have a "Game Mode", but it's still probably 8x+ the delay of computer monitor which is in the single digit milliseconds.
i was the 300th like with 0 dislikes. Tetris fans are awesome!
BTW Jonas is there a way I can private message you?
CWTC should have a B type competition. Level 18 height 4 or something like that would be good. I can beat level 9 height 5 and that's about it.
e11aguru I’ve had a lot of fun with level 10 height 5
13:07 lmao GOT EM
I must be stupid but i still dont get the hauppauge thing... Are you running a composite split cable from the nes to both the capture card and your crt?
Yes, he is.
What city do you live, Jonas? What's your full-time job if you have it?
I know he is/was a bar manager
Please come to Italy
@Heather I wanna know if you have your youtube channel. I wanna watch you play Dr. Mario and Tetris 99!!!! I can only find so few videos of you playing. T^T
I stream on my own channel sometimes when Jonas and I aren't together - it's twitch.tv/seriousproducer - but no, I don't send any videos to TH-cam
Yay
Sinster1, is that the Punch out blindfolded guy?
Yes it is
Hello, I am a Korean who is interested in the Tetris Classic CTWC game contest. Where can I buy a game-related device and practice?
Jonas I'm a bit late here, but I noticed everyone uses the classic nes controller. What would stop someone from using something like an nes advantage joystick controller (not using the turbo and slow motion function of course)?
I think the advantage is banned in competition. You'd have to reach out to the classic Tetris channel to see if they would be open to allowing it
@@JonasTeh81 thanks!
"The game developers decided that to cap the scoring and keep it kind of an even progression they would have you transition sooner. So thats why at a 130 lines you transition to level 19 instead of 180."
Wrong. It is a bug in the code.The number of lines you cleared is stored as a bcd number, and the code devides it by 10, and compares the result to the current level. The issue is, that the current level is a normal, hexadecimal number and the number of lines divided by 10 is a bcd number. So if you start on 18 (decimal), that is 0x12 (hexadecimal), and if you reach 130 lines, after the division by 10, you get 0x13 (because it is bcd), it is bigger than the current level (0x12) so you will advance to level 19.
The fact that this bug makes the game more balanced (regarding scoring) is just pure luck.
(x) Doubt. It's not uncommon for developers to take advantage or quirks like this to solve problems. If you have a source where the developer says it's a bug then I'll believe it. Don't underestimate a developers creativity when solving problems especially when given strict hardware constraints.
@@MW_1535 I still think it was not intentional, because they fixed this in the snes Tetris & Dr Mario.
Is there any doctor mario vid when Heather or Jason play?
jason is dark world jonas
Heather played in the Dr. Mario tournament that was held at the 2018 CTWC th-cam.com/video/EMSbcLJoAGo/w-d-xo.html
Personally, and this is just my opinion, hypertapping should be made tournament illegal. It's clearly damaging to the hand and wrist, Jonas can feel it, so encouraging it in young people who's joints and bones are still developing - I don't see how that's safe given the amount of practice required. I know Koryan gets away with it seemingly, but the organisers need to ask themselves if its something they can ethically promote to the youth.
*"Tetris for FAQ"*
I actually played more TI-83 tetris than I did NES tetris. You get bored in high school.
The crew bauer
29:15 Why skip Level 12?
Actually, .5 frame exist, all balrog jab in street fighter are 2.5 frame startup (its a joke)
Jonas champion
Im a type A kind of person... if your talking about blood🙂
Have you ever tried "Not Tetris"? I really want to see a high level tetris player trying that one
He absolutely has! When he does play it, it'll tend to be on Mondays at the start of the stream (on Twitch).
@@gordo6366 *oh boy*
I missed the FAQing FAQ :(
Have you ever considered changing your style from DAS to HYPER tapping?
Why do people favour building wells on the right
I-piece rotation is biased towards the right, making it easier to rotate to the right than it is to the left
DEUS DO TETRIS
Felixnxt the 9 year olds see you doing your part.
26:25
PPT matching always sucked. Maybe it's just too few people is playing ?
RIP
What is the origin of your name? It sounds like Lithuanian John :S
Lithuanian? It's clearly German
hi
20,201st!
What the FAQ?
I got 2 I pieces in a row, though. Could it be because of an emulator?
It’s not impossible, just much less likely
Сетооооон
I like videos that are Jonas only more
agree
Кто здесь от Юры профессионала?
For regular Nubbins watchers, this is super cringey.
To quiet....