Kirk, your editing continues to be immaculate. I see that we noticed a lot of the same things. You make an amazing point that TAG2 would have worked better as the first DLC, and then TAG1. Your point about Reclaimed Earth being a beautiful level but in the end feeling like you've seen it before in a bunch of games is something I was gonna mention in my video. I was gonna talk about Cause And Effect in Titanfall 2, but I cut it due to time. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man! You're totally right it does look a lot like Effect and Cause from Titanfall! I just played through that not too long ago, maybe thats why it felt so familiar. This DLC was a bummer but I am eager to see if ID makes some adjustments now that the feedback is out there. I'm curious what development was like for them in-between the DLC releases. Anyways man thank you for the comment and keep up the good work on your end as well, I feel like every time I watch your videos I learn something new about this game I love.
Kinda has destiny vibes too. Or skyrim in a weird way. This is a personal thing but I really don't like all these "ancient ruins type levels" exultia, sentinal prime, taras nabad, world spear, and even earth reclaimed a little bit. It's okay in principle, but it feels so overused. Like I actually love the Exultia ruins part, it just gets to be too much later on. Also, I was sad that that awesome alien biome full of crystals at the end of world spear had 0 combat encounters. That was the coolest part of the level!!
@@tracystevens6930 Yeah I was a little bummed about that too. When I saw that there were angels(?) entombed in the crystals I half expected there to be some new enemy or a boss fight.
Honestly what humors me the most about this game is how the Seraphim ended up being the hardest boss(at least for me). Think about it: this regular angel dude is harder to fight than: an extinct species of demon made purposely to hunt down Hell’s arch enemy that gets reborn along with an upgrade, a champion of the arena who has never lost a fight in his life, a being so powerful she can only be harmed within her own world and is also the leader of the “angels”, a demonic Titan who threatens reality by just EXISTING, and literal Satan.
@@findlay1archesthe dlc is challenging in some aspects but it is much easier than the first dlc plus you get the hammer which can trivialize many encounters when used right
Excellent video as always. It seems that most of us who were expecting more of a challenge this DLC had very similar thoughts. I was practically nodding throughout your whole vid. BTW, about a month ago or so I told you I was trying to obtain that Golden Slayer skin for Ultra Nightmare. Well I'm happy to say I got it :). Legit took me 10 months of almost daily practice and I achieved it on my 130th attempt. Cheers!
I really liked the first level. Especially the arenas with the meat hook things in the sky since it’s awesome to be flying in the air comboing the enemies below. Also if you get it right you can stay in the air the whole arena killing all the enemies below which in my opinion is just so awesome! Fun, but too easy.
The new demons don't feel like much in TAG 2 but that's ok. People got to feel how they function, but in the upcoming master levels they are no doubt going to get some serious utilization.
Another Kirk video, my week got better. (Regarding the difficulty I think it's nice to have a stroll once in a while when I've been grinding UN runs and gore nest master levels on UN.)
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I enjoyed tag 2. Tag 1 was better but all in all, I feel ID gave us a hell of a ride. Working on tag 2 in a pandemic with deadlines couldn’t have been easy. Tag 2 could have been a lot better but I liked it overall. Just not the stunningly brilliant end we all hoped for.
It’s tough trying to please veterans and new comers when it comes to dlc but overall it’s still fun, great video tho Kirk I’m sure the community can agree with everything you said.
Im gonna be honest, I found TAG 2 harder than TAG 1. It could be because I try not to use the hammer, but I die a lot more in TAG 2. It poses a great challenge (to me anyway)
I personally found TAG1 WAY harder. Using UN for comparison, beating Blood Swamps alone took me as many attempts as the entirety of TAG2. Both took me 3 attempts to beat. And I haven't even begun practicing The Holt because I literally died close to 50 times on almost every Nightmare run I've ever done there. I also used the shit out of the Hammer, which is probably part of the reason why TAG2 was a lot easier than TAG1 for me. Plus a few BFG rounds here and there, but I use those in TAG1 as well and I still struggle
Hugo recently responded on facebook and in the newest livestream about the difficulty. You probably didn't see it because these videos take a long time to make
Hmm... I'm afraid this was bound to happen at some point. Ever since Doom 2016, the devs have been constantly one upping themselves in terms of gameplay mechanics and enemy design; with The Ancient Gods Part 1 it already felt like they had pushed things as far as they could go. I'm not at all surprised that Part 2 would end up being easier and less inspired. For average FPS players, as much as it may annoy hardcore "Doomers", Doom Eternal was already plenty difficult. So there was some pushback against the even higher difficulty of TAG1 and, perhaps in a classic example of overcorrection, they moved too much in the other direction with TAG2. I also think that even a great dev team can have only so many new ideas that also happen to be good; at some point your new ideas may not 'stick' anymore. I'm not upset though, it's still good fun and I have to give credit to the devs for doing something I wouldn't have thought possible not too many years ago: turning a fantastic piece of gaming history into a fantastic piece of modern gaming. I just wish that they now put the Doom franchise out to pasture for a good long time. There may be a time when a new generation of devs thinks up a way to put a new spin on Doom, but for the moment more sequels would probably end up being less inspired "more of the same" affairs.
Yeah for real also this kinda idk how to call it... Not scares, but makes me a little nervous. Like when I think of DOOM Eternal. How in the hell can you make a better shooter than this? What sort of ideas would it require? Then again I think well people have thought the same though and were surprised. Anyway I really enjoyed TAG1&2 even if they didn't add anything new the base of DOOM Eternal is so much fun it wouldn't even matter IMO.
The reason why Immora looks like a recolored Urdak is because it was the first place created by the Dark Lord, who also created the Maykrs. So Immora is not a copy of Urdak, it's the original. For it to look like Nekravol would not make much sense, that city was built by the Sentinels and the Hell Priests without any Makyr like tech.
I just wish they made the dark lord rushed you harder, like his 2 hit attack can now be follow by an immediate shield bash so the player can't mindlessly double dash out of his range, make it feel like an actual dual and not you waiting for Dark Lord to fuck himself up. They should have also remove all the fodder in the arena. So your only source of hammer is from his dog spawn and you have to make an decision of whether use the hammer on the ghost demon at phase 3 or not, creating a fun little challenge for good player and a hard decision of casual player
That was an excellent review, I agree with just about everything you said. This dlc didn’t feel as grand as it could’ve been. I mean it’s the literal ending battle of good vs evil and it felt like just a normal doom level. I really wish they left this storyline open until an eventual 3rd installment, that way that could’ve had a longer time to buildup the end of the slayers arc and created more exciting mechanics.
I absolutely loved The Ancient Gods Part 1, and while it was tough as nails, the level design and combat encounters were top notch, even better than vanilla Doom Eternal. I know a lot of people complained that it was maybe a bit too much in terms of difficulty, and Ancient Gods Part 2 is obviously an answer to that. I enjoyed the new DLC, but it's too short and the new additions to the gameplay lack substance and feel superfluous. Overall, it's decent enough to play through, but it feels like the Doom tank is running on E and might need a refill.
Ngl I like that the hammer is charged through combat. It makes it feel more like a tool and something that you won't forget you have unlike the Crucible AKA the "Press MB1 to Win". A price raise on how much blood is needed to use the hammer would be nice tho (Difficulty determines the price maybe?)
Personally, I haven't played doom, nor and game really since the last DLC. So I'm thankful they toned downed the difficulty with this DLC. It was perfect in letting me in for the ride 😁
I feel like Ancient Gods Part 1 is when the developers double down on what made Doom Eternal awesome, but this in effect caters only to hardcore or serious Doom Eternal lovers. The Ancient Gods part 2 is when the developers let go of the peddle, and started to cater to the more casual fans. While I am at it, the new enemies in part 2 are pretty stupid, and do not deserve to be in Doom Eternal.
To be fair, when it comes to Immora looking similar to Urdak, I read it as to be kind of expected since it was the Dark lord who created them so, their tech and architecture been similar to Immora was fitting, at least in my head. I also agree that the last boss, the dark lord himself should've represented more of a challenge.
You know that is a good point and does make sense lore wise. I still would have liked some of that iconic Doom hell imagery to be there tho. If it actually a combination of the Urdak tech and hell fire and brimstone that would have maybe done the trick for me.
@@KIRKCOLLECTS well, not that I want to change you mind or anything but, it was always there, hell is a world, has different countries, cities and, just like our world, each part has a different flavor to it. We've been in hell before, different locations tho. I don't want to justify anything, and I also don't think they, Devs, went through this same line of thinking but, as in any other game, we, players, have to fill in the gaps and shortcomings that devs sometimes have to work with. So, I choose to believe hell has different flavors and visual touches depending on where you are. Some places resemble the sentinel world on a deeply decayed state, others like urdak. Also, that opens up the possibilities to have more varied hell locations in the future and do not feel like we've been there already. Also, great content, man, keep it up!
Yeah, hoping Id takes a break from this style of Serious Sam meets Mario FPS gameplay and goes back to the flowing atmospheric level design of Quake 2 or Doom 3 for their next game. Rumor is Quake may be next, but please don't make it another arcadey arena shooter. Wouldn't mind seeing a proper Wolfenstein after the very bad Youngblood from Id either. Check out: Quantum Error and Project Ferocious. Both smaller FPS games with great potential. Hoping Necromunda Hired Gun turns out good too. Titanfall 2 meets the cancelled Prey 2 we should've gotten.
haha "its a me! Doom Slayer!" I'd love a new Quake and definitely a new Wolfenstein (I wasn't too fond of Youngblood either) but I wouldn't mind them trying something completely different. Whether it be a new fps franchise or new genre.
@KIRK COLLECTS, Doom Slayer for Smash or cross over with Animal Crossing. Big AAA gaming companies just keep recycling established franchises. Often if ya want new FPS franchises, you gotta look to AA or Indie. Quantum Error is being made by 4 devs and is basically Doom 3 meets Dead Space. Project Ferocious is being made by 1 dev using Unity and is essentially original Far Cry/Crysis with some dinosaurs in it too. Thanks for not giving us that 1 Ubisoft lol. Even Trepang2 is being made by only 4 or 5 devs too. Did you see the gameplay for Six Days In Fallujah? They make tge simple act of opening doors terrifying. Looking like a nice spiritual successor to the classic Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Swat, and Brothers In Arms tactics FPS games.
Very true. It's more likely they'll move onto an established franchise (quake) but I'll still cross my fingers they'll try something fresh. Yeah those indies look interesting - That really is the most exciting space for the genre right now, at least in my opinion. I haven't seen that gameplay yet! I'll peek it today. That's one I wouldn't mind reviewing for the channel.
The only change I'd like to see in the game is rare skins like the cosplayer, ember etc being obtainable through challenges instead of being behind a paywall.
the only skins that were hidden behind paywalls were the Twitch Prime skins (and they recently did an event where you unlock Hot Rod Slayer if you have a Slayer's Club account), the DOOT Revenant skin and the Classic Combat Shotgun skin. While those last two are a fair argument, it's far less excessive than most AAA pay-for-skins bullshit I agree the Cultist Base Master Level shouldn't be behind a paywall, though. It's dirt cheap and I even bought it myself, but I still feel like it should've come with the game at launch like the Arc Complex ML
So I'm really enjoying Doom Eternal through gamepass on PC, just entered the subway station at the start. But the year one pass, it's like $36 cdn - worth buying through the Microsoft store? I'll probably wait till it's cheaper. Love fps games and Eternal definitely raised the bar. But yea - dlc 1 and 2, worth buying?
I mean, it took me only 3-4 attempts to beat the whole DLC. And that was on a base XB1 controller with default layout. Plus, no deaths on Immora or the Dark Lord, even though I did like 3 practice runs for both levels whereas I normally do like 15 practice runs. TAG1's Blood Swamps alone already took 3 attempts and I've yet to get a single deathless Holt run... so I would argue, if you expected an even bigger challenge than TAG1, it IS too easy. But goddamn, this DLC was so much more fun and even though I felt like the Dark Lord fight could've had more combat variety, the boss fight still felt pretty good now that I look back on it. Can't say the same for Samur...
@@heatyeet6538 I disagree with that. I hardly play on Nightmare and am nowhere near the best Doom Eternal player in the world, even compared to other console players, and it only took me 3, maybe 4 attempts. 2 of my attempts were halted by Blood Maykrs because I wasn't used to their nerf yet, one was thwarted by a Cursed Prowler (of course) and I lost a run to a Screecher-buffed Manc in the first mission. Honestly, once you get past Reclaimed Earth and do a few NM practice runs of Immora and the Dark Lord, you can do it easily! ^^
@@livirus3826 no, all the other levels were easy. World spear, reclaimed earth, immora, all easy. It is the dark lord that I am worried about. I died for hours on it the first time. Goddamn it was hard.
I wish they tried too many things instead of focusing on a few but well done features. I still think it was a good game, but it's sad it did end that well. Also, I wish the last level was bigger
Honestly I didn’t like the dark Lord‘s voice or speech patterns. Way too cliché sounding and I thought it would’ve been better if he sounded like some normal metalhead you run into at the guitar center.
Actually these design decisions were purposeful in the name of "pacing". I don't get how pacing is related to making uninteresting fights and empty feeling levels but oh well
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Kirk, your editing continues to be immaculate. I see that we noticed a lot of the same things. You make an amazing point that TAG2 would have worked better as the first DLC, and then TAG1. Your point about Reclaimed Earth being a beautiful level but in the end feeling like you've seen it before in a bunch of games is something I was gonna mention in my video. I was gonna talk about Cause And Effect in Titanfall 2, but I cut it due to time. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man! You're totally right it does look a lot like Effect and Cause from Titanfall! I just played through that not too long ago, maybe thats why it felt so familiar. This DLC was a bummer but I am eager to see if ID makes some adjustments now that the feedback is out there. I'm curious what development was like for them in-between the DLC releases. Anyways man thank you for the comment and keep up the good work on your end as well, I feel like every time I watch your videos I learn something new about this game I love.
Kinda has destiny vibes too. Or skyrim in a weird way. This is a personal thing but I really don't like all these "ancient ruins type levels" exultia, sentinal prime, taras nabad, world spear, and even earth reclaimed a little bit. It's okay in principle, but it feels so overused. Like I actually love the Exultia ruins part, it just gets to be too much later on.
Also, I was sad that that awesome alien biome full of crystals at the end of world spear had 0 combat encounters. That was the coolest part of the level!!
@@tracystevens6930 Yeah I was a little bummed about that too. When I saw that there were angels(?) entombed in the crystals I half expected there to be some new enemy or a boss fight.
I thought it was Crysis 3 😂
@@FROSTB4NE 😂
Honestly what humors me the most about this game is how the Seraphim ended up being the hardest boss(at least for me). Think about it: this regular angel dude is harder to fight than: an extinct species of demon made purposely to hunt down Hell’s arch enemy that gets reborn along with an upgrade, a champion of the arena who has never lost a fight in his life, a being so powerful she can only be harmed within her own world and is also the leader of the “angels”, a demonic Titan who threatens reality by just EXISTING, and literal Satan.
Mindf×ck
@djdaem0n okay, but that still makes it a hard boss :p
@djdaem0n but he's not in the Dark Lord's arena, is he now?
That’s funny but the Seraphim is canonically the right hand to god, so he does get a power boost in that respect.
Even though this dlc was more on the easy side.
I'm still impressed they managed to get this out during a pandemic
Very true, it was still a polished product.
Agreed
Ha this makes me laugh. I thought this was very challenging but maybe I just suck lol
@@findlay1archesthe dlc is challenging in some aspects but it is much easier than the first dlc plus you get the hammer which can trivialize many encounters when used right
Excellent video as always. It seems that most of us who were expecting more of a challenge this DLC had very similar thoughts. I was practically nodding throughout your whole vid.
BTW, about a month ago or so I told you I was trying to obtain that Golden Slayer skin for Ultra Nightmare. Well I'm happy to say I got it :). Legit took me 10 months of almost daily practice and I achieved it on my 130th attempt. Cheers!
Thats awesome! Congrats! You are a far better Slayer than me thats for sure.
I dont agree with most of what you said, but I respect your opinion. keep up the good work kirk!
I really liked the first level. Especially the arenas with the meat hook things in the sky since it’s awesome to be flying in the air comboing the enemies below. Also if you get it right you can stay in the air the whole arena killing all the enemies below which in my opinion is just so awesome!
Fun, but too easy.
That is awesome! Perhaps they can throw more of those meat hook grapples in the master levels.
Love this channel to death, it’s bound to blow up one of these days!
Thank you Spegy!
It's so good to find someone who can put into words all of your thought and feelings. Subscribed.
The new demons don't feel like much in TAG 2 but that's ok. People got to feel how they function, but in the upcoming master levels they are no doubt going to get some serious utilization.
Thats a good point. I'm sure the master levels are going to go crazy with these new types.
I don't think the Slayer is dead. A heart beat can still be when the sarcophagus closes.
But all in all. Awesome review Kirk :)
Another Kirk video, my week got better.
(Regarding the difficulty I think it's nice to have a stroll once in a while when I've been grinding UN runs and gore nest master levels on UN.)
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Welcome back everybody! How are we feeling about this dlc? Did you find it to be a fitting wrap up of Doom Eternal? Be sure to let me know in the comments.
00:00 - Intro
00:46 - What is Doom Eternal Ancient Gods Part 2
1:26 - The Sentinel Hammer
3:47 - It's easier?
5:43 - Demon variations
9:48 - Three new levels
10:35 - Meat hook grapple points
11:01 - Back to the levels
14:25 - Doom Eternal Ancient Gods Part 2 ending - Major spoilers!
17:57 - Conclusion
I enjoyed tag 2. Tag 1 was better but all in all, I feel ID gave us a hell of a ride. Working on tag 2 in a pandemic with deadlines couldn’t have been easy. Tag 2 could have been a lot better but I liked it overall. Just not the stunningly brilliant end we all hoped for.
It’s tough trying to please veterans and new comers when it comes to dlc but overall it’s still fun, great video tho Kirk I’m sure the community can agree with everything you said.
Im gonna be honest, I found TAG 2 harder than TAG 1. It could be because I try not to use the hammer, but I die a lot more in TAG 2. It poses a great challenge (to me anyway)
I personally found TAG1 WAY harder. Using UN for comparison, beating Blood Swamps alone took me as many attempts as the entirety of TAG2. Both took me 3 attempts to beat. And I haven't even begun practicing The Holt because I literally died close to 50 times on almost every Nightmare run I've ever done there.
I also used the shit out of the Hammer, which is probably part of the reason why TAG2 was a lot easier than TAG1 for me. Plus a few BFG rounds here and there, but I use those in TAG1 as well and I still struggle
Great review, I totally agree, especially with the story ending being underwhelming, I was like: "That's it?"
I don't mind the 2 GCs for the hammer, but the cartoon vibes are nerfing the vibe of the game for sure.
Yeah it's a little much. I hope they patch in the ability to turn it off.
Hugo recently responded on facebook and in the newest livestream about the difficulty. You probably didn't see it because these videos take a long time to make
Hmm... I'm afraid this was bound to happen at some point. Ever since Doom 2016, the devs have been constantly one upping themselves in terms of gameplay mechanics and enemy design; with The Ancient Gods Part 1 it already felt like they had pushed things as far as they could go. I'm not at all surprised that Part 2 would end up being easier and less inspired. For average FPS players, as much as it may annoy hardcore "Doomers", Doom Eternal was already plenty difficult. So there was some pushback against the even higher difficulty of TAG1 and, perhaps in a classic example of overcorrection, they moved too much in the other direction with TAG2. I also think that even a great dev team can have only so many new ideas that also happen to be good; at some point your new ideas may not 'stick' anymore.
I'm not upset though, it's still good fun and I have to give credit to the devs for doing something I wouldn't have thought possible not too many years ago: turning a fantastic piece of gaming history into a fantastic piece of modern gaming. I just wish that they now put the Doom franchise out to pasture for a good long time. There may be a time when a new generation of devs thinks up a way to put a new spin on Doom, but for the moment more sequels would probably end up being less inspired "more of the same" affairs.
Yeah for real also this kinda idk how to call it... Not scares, but makes me a little nervous. Like when I think of DOOM Eternal. How in the hell can you make a better shooter than this? What sort of ideas would it require? Then again I think well people have thought the same though and were surprised.
Anyway I really enjoyed TAG1&2 even if they didn't add anything new the base of DOOM Eternal is so much fun it wouldn't even matter IMO.
The reason why Immora looks like a recolored Urdak is because it was the first place created by the Dark Lord, who also created the Maykrs. So Immora is not a copy of Urdak, it's the original. For it to look like Nekravol would not make much sense, that city was built by the Sentinels and the Hell Priests without any Makyr like tech.
While TAG1 was the Plutonia of the DLC Part 2 was TNT Evilution
Was waiting to this review thanks again for the good content
Idk, Doom eternal is cartoony in general so the hammer stun noise fits in.
I just wish they made the dark lord rushed you harder, like his 2 hit attack can now be follow by an immediate shield bash so the player can't mindlessly double dash out of his range, make it feel like an actual dual and not you waiting for Dark Lord to fuck himself up. They should have also remove all the fodder in the arena. So your only source of hammer is from his dog spawn and you have to make an decision of whether use the hammer on the ghost demon at phase 3 or not, creating a fun little challenge for good player and a hard decision of casual player
Killing floor 2 had that silly cartoonish stars around there heads when there staggered way i don't use that stupid perk for it
So the city level is the worst one feels familiar
Lol
That was an excellent review, I agree with just about everything you said. This dlc didn’t feel as grand as it could’ve been. I mean it’s the literal ending battle of good vs evil and it felt like just a normal doom level. I really wish they left this storyline open until an eventual 3rd installment, that way that could’ve had a longer time to buildup the end of the slayers arc and created more exciting mechanics.
I agree with your review the most!
'the hammer charges too easily'
Just don't use it as much!
I hope they add master level with hammer that will be fun.
I absolutely loved The Ancient Gods Part 1, and while it was tough as nails, the level design and combat encounters were top notch, even better than vanilla Doom Eternal. I know a lot of people complained that it was maybe a bit too much in terms of difficulty, and Ancient Gods Part 2 is obviously an answer to that. I enjoyed the new DLC, but it's too short and the new additions to the gameplay lack substance and feel superfluous. Overall, it's decent enough to play through, but it feels like the Doom tank is running on E and might need a refill.
Ngl I like that the hammer is charged through combat. It makes it feel more like a tool and something that you won't forget you have unlike the Crucible AKA the "Press MB1 to Win". A price raise on how much blood is needed to use the hammer would be nice tho (Difficulty determines the price maybe?)
I think it should recharge on glory kills or normal kills on heavies only so its much more balanced
This being less difficult is all the better for me tbh. Though these demon variations sound like a pain in the ass. Makes me wanna skip this.
Don't worry they're not that bad.
The new ones are good. Just not really utilised much in the dlc. Though i kinda understand after hugo's explanation.
Excellent review, agree with nearly everything
3:16 because that was the purpose
Personally, I haven't played doom, nor and game really since the last DLC. So I'm thankful they toned downed the difficulty with this DLC. It was perfect in letting me in for the ride 😁
I feel like Ancient Gods Part 1 is when the developers double down on what made Doom Eternal awesome, but this in effect caters only to hardcore or serious Doom Eternal lovers. The Ancient Gods part 2 is when the developers let go of the peddle, and started to cater to the more casual fans. While I am at it, the new enemies in part 2 are pretty stupid, and do not deserve to be in Doom Eternal.
To be fair, when it comes to Immora looking similar to Urdak, I read it as to be kind of expected since it was the Dark lord who created them so, their tech and architecture been similar to Immora was fitting, at least in my head. I also agree that the last boss, the dark lord himself should've represented more of a challenge.
You know that is a good point and does make sense lore wise. I still would have liked some of that iconic Doom hell imagery to be there tho. If it actually a combination of the Urdak tech and hell fire and brimstone that would have maybe done the trick for me.
@@KIRKCOLLECTS well, not that I want to change you mind or anything but, it was always there, hell is a world, has different countries, cities and, just like our world, each part has a different flavor to it. We've been in hell before, different locations tho. I don't want to justify anything, and I also don't think they, Devs, went through this same line of thinking but, as in any other game, we, players, have to fill in the gaps and shortcomings that devs sometimes have to work with. So, I choose to believe hell has different flavors and visual touches depending on where you are. Some places resemble the sentinel world on a deeply decayed state, others like urdak. Also, that opens up the possibilities to have more varied hell locations in the future and do not feel like we've been there already.
Also, great content, man, keep it up!
The idea of the dark lord also being God still doesn't sit well with me.
Yeah, hoping Id takes a break from this style of Serious Sam meets Mario FPS gameplay and goes back to the flowing atmospheric level design of Quake 2 or Doom 3 for their next game.
Rumor is Quake may be next, but please don't make it another arcadey arena shooter. Wouldn't mind seeing a proper Wolfenstein after the very bad Youngblood from Id either.
Check out: Quantum Error and Project Ferocious. Both smaller FPS games with great potential.
Hoping Necromunda Hired Gun turns out good too. Titanfall 2 meets the cancelled Prey 2 we should've gotten.
haha "its a me! Doom Slayer!"
I'd love a new Quake and definitely a new Wolfenstein (I wasn't too fond of Youngblood either) but I wouldn't mind them trying something completely different. Whether it be a new fps franchise or new genre.
@KIRK COLLECTS, Doom Slayer for Smash or cross over with Animal Crossing.
Big AAA gaming companies just keep recycling established franchises.
Often if ya want new FPS franchises, you gotta look to AA or Indie.
Quantum Error is being made by 4 devs and is basically Doom 3 meets Dead Space.
Project Ferocious is being made by 1 dev using Unity and is essentially original Far Cry/Crysis with some dinosaurs in it too. Thanks for not giving us that 1 Ubisoft lol.
Even Trepang2 is being made by only 4 or 5 devs too.
Did you see the gameplay for Six Days In Fallujah? They make tge simple act of opening doors terrifying. Looking like a nice spiritual successor to the classic Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Swat, and Brothers In Arms tactics FPS games.
Very true. It's more likely they'll move onto an established franchise (quake) but I'll still cross my fingers they'll try something fresh.
Yeah those indies look interesting - That really is the most exciting space for the genre right now, at least in my opinion.
I haven't seen that gameplay yet! I'll peek it today. That's one I wouldn't mind reviewing for the channel.
Quite interesting to hear someone want doom 3 level design back, but what do you mean with wanting a wolfenstein game. Do you mean the New Order type?
The best name I've ever seen a angry person on the Doom Eternal forums call this game was "Super BDSM Mario".
The only change I'd like to see in the game is rare skins like the cosplayer, ember etc being obtainable through challenges instead of being behind a paywall.
the only skins that were hidden behind paywalls were the Twitch Prime skins (and they recently did an event where you unlock Hot Rod Slayer if you have a Slayer's Club account), the DOOT Revenant skin and the Classic Combat Shotgun skin. While those last two are a fair argument, it's far less excessive than most AAA pay-for-skins bullshit
I agree the Cultist Base Master Level shouldn't be behind a paywall, though. It's dirt cheap and I even bought it myself, but I still feel like it should've come with the game at launch like the Arc Complex ML
So I'm really enjoying Doom Eternal through gamepass on PC, just entered the subway station at the start.
But the year one pass, it's like $36 cdn - worth buying through the Microsoft store?
I'll probably wait till it's cheaper. Love fps games and Eternal definitely raised the bar.
But yea - dlc 1 and 2, worth buying?
yes.
There's a mod to eliminate the stun sound, and if people say it's too easy, then let's see those ultra nightmare runs!
I mean, it took me only 3-4 attempts to beat the whole DLC. And that was on a base XB1 controller with default layout. Plus, no deaths on Immora or the Dark Lord, even though I did like 3 practice runs for both levels whereas I normally do like 15 practice runs. TAG1's Blood Swamps alone already took 3 attempts and I've yet to get a single deathless Holt run...
so I would argue, if you expected an even bigger challenge than TAG1, it IS too easy. But goddamn, this DLC was so much more fun and even though I felt like the Dark Lord fight could've had more combat variety, the boss fight still felt pretty good now that I look back on it. Can't say the same for Samur...
Yeah I definitely think the dlc is too easy. However, never in a million years would i ever beat dlc 2 on ultra nightmare.
@@heatyeet6538 I disagree with that. I hardly play on Nightmare and am nowhere near the best Doom Eternal player in the world, even compared to other console players, and it only took me 3, maybe 4 attempts. 2 of my attempts were halted by Blood Maykrs because I wasn't used to their nerf yet, one was thwarted by a Cursed Prowler (of course) and I lost a run to a Screecher-buffed Manc in the first mission. Honestly, once you get past Reclaimed Earth and do a few NM practice runs of Immora and the Dark Lord, you can do it easily! ^^
@@livirus3826 no, all the other levels were easy. World spear, reclaimed earth, immora, all easy. It is the dark lord that I am worried about. I died for hours on it the first time. Goddamn it was hard.
I wish they tried too many things instead of focusing on a few but well done features. I still think it was a good game, but it's sad it did end that well. Also, I wish the last level was bigger
Yes!
Yes indeed!
Yes
The story of this game is about the dangers of AI. Elon Musk would be totally stoked about it.
Dope
What ost is at 9:00
But final doom already exists
Final-er Doom
Honestly I didn’t like the dark Lord‘s voice or speech patterns. Way too cliché sounding and I thought it would’ve been better if he sounded like some normal metalhead you run into at the guitar center.
Nah its not the last doom i asure you
Seems like this guy thinks he can do a better job than the developers.
Most likely, he doesn't have any time constraints and doesn't have communication problems while being at home
Actually these design decisions were purposeful in the name of "pacing". I don't get how pacing is related to making uninteresting fights and empty feeling levels but oh well