The cool thing about these machines is that they are designed to be serviced and rebuilt if necessary time and time again. Hardly any plastic on these things so they can last and last if you keep them from rusting out . Really cool to see it up and running!!!
This is sweet, I'd love to find one for 300, I'd tear that thing down and totally rebuild it and paint it back to original! So badass! Nice job and good find
Sweet...manifold holes in my 54 shorthood i brazed up...been good 4 years... and used a cowel silencer..yours sounds pretty much same.. There is a brown flexible armature cleaning pad then chalk stick to use so as not to impregnate anything with a problem creating abrasive when cleaning armatures. For info on pretty much anything sa200 ..bills welder repair site has a wealth of info as well as parts. Ya gotta luv the old non didgital sweethearts.
Those are wonderful old machines and weld beautifully. You were lucky when it went to high RPM that it didn't sling the armature apart. Maximum RPM on a short hood is 1450. Get that tachometer and set your idle and high RPMs and download a manual from Lincoln on your R51 idler and see if you can get it working. It's worth fixing for sure
Clay did get that fixed. He welded with it quite a bit. He has since sold it and is looking for another one. It was very impressive to see that run after all the years of it sitting. The previous owner thought it had been about 30 to 40 years since it was running.
Never seen a 200 until you tube. nice little machine. would b nice if one could fabricate some kind of electric starter for them. Would b better for the older welders lol! I have a 1956 Lincoln 300 amp generator welder. It has a industrial flat head Chrysler 6 powering it. It does have a electric starter. larger machine than the 200. the engine is independent from the generator. It has a clutch that engages and disengages the generator. I also have to clean both places on the armature same as was shown. I have the tool with the stones on each end. They may b harder to find but, maybe some electrical shops that still carry and sell out of date stuff may have one around. I think the stones works a lot better than fine emery. Emery still helps if u got nothing else.
Do not wrap your thumbs around the start handle. The handle can break your thumbs. Also do not put your head near the handle's travel. That can kill you. There seems to be a zerk in that hole by the electric brushes.
Were you using emery cloth to clean the armatures? I have a 49 short hood I’ve been using for 20 years that quit welding at all yesterday. Suspect the exciter armature May be the problem.
Yes, just a piece of Emery cloth. It was not welding very well and we could see that it was not making good contact when running. When we cleaned the surfaces it improved the machine greatly.
never hand spin round and round!!! roll to TDC then jerk. Good way to get a broken arm with the round and round if it where to kick back. If does not start on a jerk something not right. I have a Lincoln 180as jerk start no problem ,,,,
Broken arm can definitely happen. I'm living proof of it. Tried to crank start an old tractor after I watched a guy wind milling the crank. I said let me do that your only supposed to jerk it quick. I started to push the crank down so I could jerk it up, bang!!! Kicked back snapped my arm clean break. Lessons learned the hard way haha
@@1vester1 it was actually a battery ignition or distributor. I think the guy that was wind milling it has it so pumped up with compression and raw gas that when I tried to crank it, it was like the perfect storm. You always hear old timers talk about getting your arm broke with an old hand crank. Im 29 it happened to me when I was about 23. So a word from the not so wise, if your going to grab that crank you best be thinking about what your doing😲
Firing order is 4-1-3-2, #4 is the closes to the generator #1 is closest to the radiator if your looking at the side that has the carb. if you have the original magneto with it the cao should be numbered on the plugs. if it was converted to electric ignition then I dont know ive never messed with it.
lol I could see the look on my helpers face now when I tell him to crank the machine.
Wow that engine runs perfectly smooth!!! Stuff just isn't built like it was back then anymore.
Lol It's running like crap but ok.
I ended up with this machine . Bitch is still running like a scalded ape.
The cool thing about these machines is that they are designed to be serviced and rebuilt if necessary time and time again. Hardly any plastic on these things so they can last and last if you keep them from rusting out . Really cool to see it up and running!!!
IT'S AMAYZING MORE THAN 70 YEARS OLD AND IS STILL WORKING.
This is sweet, I'd love to find one for 300, I'd tear that thing down and totally rebuild it and paint it back to original! So badass! Nice job and good find
I have this welding machine now. Lol she's alive and kicking in stephenville ,tx. Daily welder.
Thats a beauty, guys!!! Good Job💪
Wow old gal runs great luv find one like that
Great video on rebuild of her well done
It does. I don't think anything was wrong with it when it quit being used. It just sat up for about 30 years.
Amazing, great job. Lincoln machines are hard to kill.
Man good job with that exhaust it doesn't even sound like a Lincoln anymore
New manifold and new muffler made it real quiet.
I got a 64 and so does my dad.we've been running them for yrs now and we wouldn't trade them for anything.
Sweet...manifold holes in my 54 shorthood i brazed up...been good 4 years... and used a cowel silencer..yours sounds pretty much same..
There is a brown flexible armature cleaning pad then chalk stick to use so as not to impregnate anything with a problem creating abrasive when cleaning armatures.
For info on pretty much anything sa200 ..bills welder repair site has a wealth of info as well as parts.
Ya gotta luv the old non didgital sweethearts.
Sweet! A new video from you! Good to see you!
It has been a busy summer.
Nice video. I have one about 1967 that's been sitting 20 years. Needs a carb. This may be enough to get me going on it.
Man, I wish I knew how to work on these things. These old models have so much personality
They are pretty simple old machines. You just tear into it and learn as you go.
You boys got that thing purring now!
They guy he bought it from had it 6 years and couldn't make it run. It runs and welds great. Clay has some adjusting to do to it yet.
Good job sur
Very nice to see you and your sons out in the shop working on something together
Thanks
Great video guys
Thanks
Right on thats cool as hell
That rust hole in the exhaust manifold probably save the motor.
I wish my old sa 200 had a electric start. My old welder is a 1946 I think (serial number is a R204346).
I think I may have this machine now. Lol
Those are wonderful old machines and weld beautifully. You were lucky when it went to high RPM that it didn't sling the armature apart. Maximum RPM on a short hood is 1450. Get that tachometer and set your idle and high RPMs and download a manual from Lincoln on your R51 idler and see if you can get it working. It's worth fixing for sure
Clay did get that fixed. He welded with it quite a bit. He has since sold it and is looking for another one. It was very impressive to see that run after all the years of it sitting. The previous owner thought it had been about 30 to 40 years since it was running.
Matthew Randall
Great, I restored a 1966 SA200, I won’t get rid of mine. To much work in restoration! Good experience for the young man though
Steve
Never seen a 200 until you tube. nice little machine. would b nice if one could fabricate some kind of electric starter for them. Would b better for the older welders lol! I have a 1956 Lincoln 300 amp generator welder. It has a industrial flat head Chrysler 6 powering it. It does have a electric starter. larger machine than the 200. the engine is independent from the generator. It has a clutch that engages and disengages the generator. I also have to clean both places on the armature same as was shown. I have the tool with the stones on each end. They may b harder to find but, maybe some electrical shops that still carry and sell out of date stuff may have one around. I think the stones works a lot better than fine emery. Emery still helps if u got nothing else.
Easy as adding 2ea 12volt batteries to start it off weld lugs.
Uses the armature as a elect motor.
Lincoln has the paperwork on how it's done
I got a 1949 sa200 but I need help with what spark plug to connect into what hole of the magneto/distributer cap
Dont forget to grease the water pump's zerk.
Do not wrap your thumbs around the start handle. The handle can break your thumbs. Also do not put your head near the handle's travel. That can kill you. There seems to be a zerk in that hole by the electric brushes.
It was notched to relieve the pressure if it kicks back. Most Continentals back then we're designed that way.
what exhaust did you end up putting on that? I love the nice sound it puts out now!
It is a resonator pipe that threads into the manifold. It and the manifold came from BW parts.
@@matthewrandall6320 awesome, thanks!
Through water in the brushes it will clean up the aremicher that's the old way
Were you using emery cloth to clean the armatures? I have a 49 short hood I’ve been using for 20 years that quit welding at all yesterday. Suspect the exciter armature May be the problem.
Yes, just a piece of Emery cloth. It was not welding very well and we could see that it was not making good contact when running. When we cleaned the surfaces it improved the machine greatly.
I don't know, you can download a manual for your machine from Lincolns website using your serial number.
Matthew Randall okay thank you!!! Will give it a try
@@santiagoalanis7589 sorry I couldn't be more help. That welder has since been sold.
What grid of sand paper did you use ? I don’t have the stone to clean it with !
I think it was like 200 grit. Didn't take much to clean it up.
never hand spin round and round!!! roll to TDC then jerk. Good way to get a broken arm with the round and round if it where to kick back. If does not start on a jerk something not right. I have a Lincoln 180as jerk start no problem ,,,,
Broken arm can definitely happen. I'm living proof of it. Tried to crank start an old tractor after I watched a guy wind milling the crank. I said let me do that your only supposed to jerk it quick. I started to push the crank down so I could jerk it up, bang!!! Kicked back snapped my arm clean break. Lessons learned the hard way haha
@@danieldudley8975 damm was that a mag.? A mag will fire after TDC if set right or mag is bad
@@1vester1 it was actually a battery ignition or distributor. I think the guy that was wind milling it has it so pumped up with compression and raw gas that when I tried to crank it, it was like the perfect storm. You always hear old timers talk about getting your arm broke with an old hand crank. Im 29 it happened to me when I was about 23. So a word from the not so wise, if your going to grab that crank you best be thinking about what your doing😲
So cool. Watch this. Naw trying to find parts fo mine naw. Sa200 163. Coad. 7307. Serial790050. Ime hoping its 67 - 72
BW parts in Phoenix has everything you need for your machine
put it to work
What is the Amperage on that?
this machine must have been well before they equipped the welders with the idler boards
I found one close to me for 300 everything is there on it should I snatch it up?
It would be a good project to work on and at 300 if it is only a parts machine then you have not lost much on it.
LINCOLN , NEED I SAY MORE??
What did u have to pay for this machine I got a chance to buy a 1970 regular hood for 800 but hasn't ran in 4 years
500
Why are you down on your knees when you have it on saw horses?
I’d unload my pockets into that machine
Angelo Gonzalez 831-747-5037 I have a shorty for sale. $1k and it’s yours. It’s a runner
Rocking RL Quarter Horses is it still for sale ?
I'm guessing that this is a Continental engine?
AAAAAAAAAAAAA why did you put the head face down on the floor
Hi friend! Could you help me with the order of the spark plug wires! I don't know if I put them right!
Do you have the same engine?
Yes!!
Firing order is 4-1-3-2, #4 is the closes to the generator #1 is closest to the radiator if your looking at the side that has the carb. if you have the original magneto with it the cao should be numbered on the plugs. if it was converted to electric ignition then I dont know ive never messed with it.
People who leave stuff out in the weather to rot should not be able to sell it and should be in a cage.