Funny thing is the church figured this stuff out many centuries ago but the industrial revolution got this Jesus is coming back movement and they've never been right about anything
@@exjehovahswitness Well, internally they want members to feel the end is near urgency, but know it makes them look nuts so try to temper those expectations since been wrong so many times, which is why there will be no more date/year....just it's soon
I come from 4th generation jw. On both sides of family. They change things thru the years and their proud of it because they appear humble. Such a sad religion I know people who've committed suicide...while in the religion.They start brainwashing children by showing cartoons on how to behave. In the new system the kids can play with the lions????? They spoon fed the elders and give them the scriptures to use in their talks. No more really studying or contrasting. The population of jw goes up in 3rd world countries.
My husband passed away 3 days ago, so I went to visit my JW Mom and sister in law because I really needed someone to talk to. They are both very loving and caring and I have nothing bad to say about them! My mom, however, did invite me to go to the Kingdom Hall just to see how much they have changed. I told her I wouldn't go for that very reason. Because if a religion claims to be the " one true religion ", they wouldn't constantly be changing the "rules". I was a little surprised that she agreed with me. At least I know she understands my reasoning.
(Daniel 12:4) “As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.”-Prov. 4:18 Da 12:9, 10 Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. 10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand.
It is so hurtful to realise it is a cult. I tried to do everything the right way. Know I have little to no orientation what is right anymore. But I still need the validation! It is so sad, I lived out of the validation from elders bevore… I did not plan my life ahead! I lived everyday as if it would be armagedonn the next day! So I lost this opportunity to dream with my fiancé about our future.
Could I respectfully suggest that our true identity is found in realising that when we put our trust in the FINISHED WORK of Jesus Christ on the cross, we know that we are ACCEPTED IN THE BELOVED. True shalom is found in the ‘Prince of Peace’ Jesus.
I’m 76 now, raised in and walked away over 45 years ago, makes me think that, had I known that I’d reach this age in this world, I’d have taken better care of myself 😆… Just saying.
When you’re in the cult you don’t realize how often this “faithful and discreet slave” feed you the line how you have to trust them in order to be faithful to Jehovah. Now on the outside it is SO culty. We can, at the drop of a hat receive “new light” and you have to go with whatever we tell you because that’s what God wants. If you are truly appointed by God, shouldn’t you get it right the first time? Yikes
There is a new religion called Baha'i that may accomplish the things they said. We're always going to happen in the Paradise but people have to actually follow it.... It's like a recipe for a spiritual civilization.... The prophet of this Faith reveals some specifics on marriage which probably helps civilization the most... (Parental permission, mainly unless they were abusive.... Oh and Muslims need to stop getting it on at 12... Should wait till 15 for the marriage to occur...
@@carolinegichia1687 doin' great... I'm 'oiut' of 'the world unity,' movement....🤭🥳.. mostly About having the best work you can find... + 12 Principles.... They want a 'universal house of justice '....
I always thought the whole faithful and discreet slave thing didn’t make sense because everytime I read the full chapter of that scripture, it was clearly just a parable about staying alert for Jesus’s return. He gave like 3 parables before that one on what he was talking about, yet the governing body took that specific parable and ran with it.
Hello from Norway 🌞(Google translation) I throw up ...of these self-appointed men who call themselves 'the governing body' who have just hired 2 new men to play 'THE faithful and disceet slave' 🤮 because that's exactly what is! a play for the gallery!
They haven't hired anyone as no one gets paid for their work. The members of the governing body are voted in based on the person record. Who do you think the apostles were in the 1st century CE and what were their roles?
I was brought into the Organization in the early 2000s and I remember, distinctly, the Elders giving multiple talks about how I wouldn't need to worry about graduating because the end would come before then. Hearing that they're coaching kids on how to build a life in "this system" has me just flabbergasted, I literally can't wrap my mind around the thought!
I think the GB and whoever is controlling them have come to understand that their decades old rhetoric of not getting educated and not having kids “because the time is so short” has started to stink big time! There’s an enormous backlash in the ex-JW community from people who believed the anti education crap and are now in their old age either living off welfare or still working odd jobs to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Many of these people even gave up scholarships when graduating from high school to follow the disgusting, life altering BS of being content working minimum wage jobs and going out knocking on doors for Watchtower.
@@RebeccadeWinter-t1c I’ve seen them start to encourage certain degrees, like getting a law degree. At the headquarters level, never going to tell the soldiers at the KH level its ok to get educated. Going to need free legal counsel at a mass level, so the Slave says “go to Harvard”🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I know I’m older, but some out there should remember a district convention where it was brought out that Noah’s sons held off having children till after the ark was built and the flood waters dried up. The inference was to hold off having a family until the “WORK” was done. That was about 40 yrs of so ago., probably a bit longer. Tell me, who would be sitting in the hall if that council was taken.?
My son was born in 1973 and I was frowned upon for having a child as the end was expected in 1975. He is 51 now and I have 3 beautiful grandchildren. I also had 2 more children and a beautiful granddaughter. Needless to say none of us attend meetings any longer.
When I was first studying I was told to be careful about researching outside material. Was told the most truthful material about the borg was from the borg itself. "who would be the best writer of a cars owners manual other than the manufacturer??" they said. They love illustrations no matter how misused or illsuited they are
That mindset of them doesn’t make sense to me. How will you know the objective truth if you will not bother looking at the other side. The truth can’t be objective if the GB supress other information and not letting members to test and analyze it themselves.
Thank you for your work. I'm a JW survivor, and watching your channel has validated my inner-turmoil about this dangerous cult. They still hold my mom hostage, but Im so grateful that mom and I have a relationship despite me being LGBT. I moved out at 16, long before this abhorrent encroachment on the internet started. I can see from your videos how they've really been dumbed down; there used to be a somewhat scholarly quality to the organization. I'm so grateful my mom and stepfather were not really close to the organization - their relationship with Watchtower was to do the minimum to stay in everyone's good graces, so that gave me some breathing room. Still wasn't easy though. You got some good dance moves!
You are soo right..the contradictions are astounding...was around them since the early 80s.. sadly my family still cling to their every word. Part of it I think is that it is so hard to change now given that we are now all in our 60s and my mom in her 90s. Never thought I would see past my mid 30s in this system. The misleading garbage is still coming out from them..pitiful.
As we can trust in that God Almighty provides for us, but we can also trust and be sure of that the Watchtower will not provide for its members, will not be there for them in their hour of need, will not love them, but will provide 'spiritual directions' that may or may not result in the members poverty and death.
I love what you do Wally!My partner is an ex witness and I wanted to educate myself to better understand what they went through. Been subscribed for over a year now, thank you for helping ex witnesses and people like me who want to truly understand. ❤
The other day I put jw October broadcast on my device, turned on my nintendo switch, and listened while I played a nice relaxing game. A few minutes later I was roaring with laughter at David Splane saying " do the math" when I suddenly realised I WASN'T listening to Wally or Jake or Panda, but the real thing!!!! loved the dancing, can we have some more please?
I owe u a special apology Wally, i told people not join one cult in lieu of another , insinuating your making money off others problems. But after watching you, i think you are a my definition of meek. Not weak or unconfident like many think meek is. But kind and strong slow to anger but willing to stand against wrong. Sorry man, keep up the good work.
.... I had a conversation with Canadian office about Bahai... I'm trying to turn myself in... Although the faith began prophetically in 1844 later in the 1960s, an individual had a spiritual experience and insight into the scriptures, leading him to believe he was the seventh angel and also Shiloh, One who would sound the trumpet.... Guess what year he was born....;)..
not me in the late 70's crying when my dad threw away all of his country music records because the latests convention told everyone it was evil and about drunkards and sex lol....yeah...rip Waylon Jennings
I remember a convention where they called out certain bands, like KISS and I think Black Sabbath. I had a friend who bought and threw out Sabbath records every month, liking them then feeling guilty over and over. We all bonded over Rush. They rocked, but they were cerebral, and as JWs we thought we were cerebral. Nobody gave us crap about liking Rush.
You got me binge watching like almost 10 videos while I should be going to sleep. Fascinating stuff, especially coming from an ex- member. I applaud your individual thinking to help you undo the years of brainwashing and break free. I need to keep this binge going, so you just got a sub from an atheist/agnostic who hasn't really been interested in _any_ religion for decades.
First class Wally. It shows you really care. You are an awesome lad mate. I didn't know you didn't attend school. Self education is priceless though which shows in your videos, erudite, eloquent, self deprecating and funny. I won't forget our phone chat after I woke up when I was in Tampa. It meant an awful lot as I was a mess. It helped me immensely. Keep on keeping on my friend. Much love and appreciation from Scotland
I need a video of that happening in my life! wait.... imagine they are actually trying to make a wedding playlist.... wait that was a joke but what if.....?
cuz this is best country on the planet! LOL yeah I don't think they really thought it through all the way. they are an American religion after all so there is that
I think ( puts on tinfoil hat ) it's about power. If the GB was as international as the organization they represent, then they would have to worry about GB members leaving and taking a portion of the people with them from their respective countries.
@@morningglory9288 Hahaha, My parents have been non stop JW's since 1968. My Dad is 83 now a few months ago I went to their house and he had a full beard, and he said "they let us have beards now".. i was so lolol. He has been a elder for probably 45 years. I get along fine with them now, but it was not easy growing up as a kid. I moved out when I was 15.
Watching this video, I really need to share what took place a few days ago at one of my jobs. During the day, I work as a housekeeper at a Marriott chain hotel, and while cleaning rooms I was refreshing a couple's room. Little did I knew, they were JWs, and they were going to keep me in that room to talk to me about the world and how if we don't come back to Jehovah, we will get destroyed. The craziest thing is I recalled telling them that I left the religion due to sexual abuse and mistreatment towards those who aren't uber JWs, they tried to downplay the situation and say that it wasn't Jehovah's fault, but men and Satan was using men to test your faith. The part that gets me about that conversation and this video about the brother having to sacrifice everything for paradise is that I was that person before until I woke up in 2020 where I would talk to people about Jehovah and tell them to hold out hope because the world was going to end one day. Now looking back, I had to start everything from the ground up and figure out what I want to do with my life and that includes going back to school to get my bachelors and masters, so I can become an LCSW to help those who been through the same roller coaster ride as me. I want to thank you for sharing this video because this was just another reminder to me of why I left that fucked up religion, wrote down my goals, and going after them one by one.
wow! it's so crazy how someone can explain away sexual abuse as a test from satan! why would a loving god allow that kind of test??? I wish you the best on your journey
Tldr: The End will never come because it doesn't exist. End of story. I also want to reiterate my own personal belief: man fears that of which he doesn't understand. The more knowledge and understanding you gain, the less you have to fear.
@@exjehovahswitnessThe other thing I live by is that in every piece of fiction, there is some truth between the lines. You just have to find and verify it. Regarding the black and white thinking of JWs- the world, and as such the universe, does not exist within such confines of definition. All is a combination of both, and of neither at the same time. If you observe nature, you'll see that it can be both beautiful and cruel. But this does not make it bad or evil. It is merely that it *is.* And that is all it needs to be.
@@robertgrey6101Thank you very much. It is why the WT censors any outside thinking. They know if they limit information, the fear grows amongst their members. They grow more paranoid and more on edge, because they fear that which they do not understand.
I doubled the floor space in my room while listening to this. Great thing to listen to in the background while doing chores. Still need to get a bookshelf for all my extra books, but im sure the dog will be happy to have more resting spots available
@@exjehovahswitness I mean he's probably going to roll around the tubs of crayons again regardless of the empty floor space and make a mess, but I don't think he can mess my room up as bad as it was before.
Watching him talk about how they may be asking how long, i cringed....its like the cringiest stuff ever! "When will you murder everyone except us"?! 😅. Yuck! Their propaganda makes me feel sick.
I love how they constantly liken the organization to Jehovah, almost like they are the same thing. Even if JWs got a couple things right, such as the trinity, hell, etc, the way they idolize the organization is dangerous ground. The God of the bible allowed his literal temple to be destroyed. While Watchtower might think they are above this, the history of the bible seems to suggest otherwise. Maybe the real tribulation doesn't start with the destruction of Christendom but instead starts with the destruction of the Watchtower for their idolatry. But then what the heck do I know? I'm just some guy on the internet.
An intriguing first century example is that of the Qumran community (Essenes) who had a war plan and expected to be the victors over an upcoming end times war with Rome with God on their side.-See the War Scroll. They ultimately did fight and were destroyed.
1914 is what will break this religion. They HAVE to discard this doctrine, but the ex JW community is hounding watchtower so much that they can't find a good distraction to slip in this change. The longer they wait the more members they will lose. Watchtower really needs a respite from the ex JW community to put a spin on the 1914 doctrine. Off course the level of scrutiny will not let up from the ex JW community for WT to reinvent itself.
When they talk about all the building projects, they’re actually getting prepared for the new system and the resurrection. They’ll have to have places for everybody to learn what has happened. They need “schools.” Conventions and assemblies will most likely continue. Knowledge is power. They don’t want anyone with power. Wally your videos keep getting better and better. Thanks for helping me to think outside my comfort zone.
Thanks for sharing that extract about suspicion. Something clicked there for me. To sum it up in my brain, basically lack of knowledge leads to increased suspicion, the only way to cure that suspicion is through further consumption of knowledge . Makes total sense🤯🤦🏽
Yep been there done that. But as a member of the LDS church. I only went because my mom would drag us on Easter Sunday and then my Nana (who has since found out that the Mormons are a cult and she's re educating herself about religion at the age of 74) I'm so proud of her. But I have had this insane issue with the LDS for years but kept it hush hush until one day my Nana called "Jessie.. what do you think of the church?" I froze. One of my best traits came out. I literally cannot lie. So I told her "well Nana I believe it's a crock of shit" expecting her to flip on me but she just laughed and said "me too". They get your brain all sorts of messed up and once you finally get everything straightened out.. it's hard from what I've seen here on TH-cam. I didn't really have the back and forth guilt per say.. the paranoia and anxiety though.. it was tough. I broke it to my mom way earlier than my Nana thought. I think I was around 21-22 and my Mom flipped on me and kicked me out of the house (but bought me a king suite hotel room to stay in for a week? I dunno). I'm almost 29 and I've been screamed at soo many times calling me an Atheist among other things. I do believe there's something out there.. but I don't agree with organized religion. I was always walking on eggshells until my Nana told me she was over it too. I had someone on my side then
This is JUST One of the BEST videos of the many I love that you've created ! The great dancing was THE BEST! Thank you for all you videos, the laughs and humor and the serious and hartfelt. ❤
I was baptized in 1975, and from age 15 to 48 I totally preached this rubbish, being a regular pioneer and an elder, I shelved all my doubts, I was repeatedly told from the 70's the end is near and I preached it, I excused them their faults, I lived in that box they put me in until I could take it no more, I was not the person that I recognised as me and I was disfellowshipped and to make my own mind up at last was true freedom, I grew a beard because I chose to, not because someone allowed me to, I hate the word "follow", I will never follow anyone. And, why just be found a "good person" just to survive Jehovah's day? No, you should be a good person per se, because it is your contribution to your community, because it is good for the growth of society, the purpose of being good is far wider than just personal salvation.
@@ramrod576 I cannot be angry at my parents or the ones that studied with them, I'm angry at the organization for convincing people this rubbish was real and needed urgent action
I spent 22 years of my life listening to this dribble going round and round and round in circles for years. I literally wasted my entire youth because of a dead end religion that was forced on me from birth. Looking back now at the age of 26 i wish that I'd broken free at 18 so i could have had relationships with whoever I wanted and developed into a normal healthy well rounded human being a lot quicker rather than still feeling like I'm adjusting now 4 years after breaking free.
"spiritual battle" - yes the imaginary savior, if we believe in him he will protect us from the imaginary boogie man the Devil. Like the Bethel heavy said in open court "JW's only offer a spiritual protection" i.e. an imaginary one.
Wally, outside of the video, that 4 minutes… I Love You Bro. I’m a less well spoken version of you. We shall meet. Real talk. Need you in my not profit, Trade Hands. Big Love!!!🤘🏽✊🏽
So, the point made about the Governing Body changing their own views was most notably evident in the testimony that Geoffrey Jackson gave in the ARC hearings. Immediately after the infamous “presumptuous” line, he says in reference to Matt. 24:45, that “they view themselves as trying to fulfill that role.” Enough said.
I showed that book to my dad because he thought i was being an apostate .i asked him to read it and he did about old prophets coming back and it even shows the picture of the mansion they bought to shelter them and he turned red and said i wasn't smart enough to educate him,geez.theres other books way before it where it explains how they bought the mansion and every prophet that would ressurrect in 1925.the book you showed is already sugar coating it and doesnt give a huge info of it but does say it ,notice in tiny letters.
You have to keep in mind that the doctrinal creators of the JWS were also the top executive directors of the Watchtower Corporation, a commercialized religious publishing house, holding to intellectual honesty. Exploiting the ignorant and vulnerable by using fear and intimidation was part of their strategy to both promote their publications and to sustain its working free labour participates. Problem though now is that people who were active JWS are waking up to the fact they weren't serving Jehovah or Jesus as their discrete servants but were being manipulated into being subservient servants to those men, who were inherently sinful and scriptural apostates .
Yet again, they keep using "African" friends and examples, with the accents, etc. Since it is the only place in the world where there is growth. Praying on the poor and hopeless...its disgusting.
GB: The end is near. Keep up the Kingdom's work!
R&F: The end is near, I am going to tell people.
GB: No, don't, don't be excited for the end.
What?
seriously! what are they even trying to say anymore?
Funny thing is the church figured this stuff out many centuries ago but the industrial revolution got this Jesus is coming back movement and they've never been right about anything
@@exjehovahswitness Well, internally they want members to feel the end is near urgency, but know it makes them look nuts so try to temper those expectations since been wrong so many times, which is why there will be no more date/year....just it's soon
I come from 4th generation jw. On both sides of family. They change things thru the years and their proud of it because they appear humble. Such a sad religion I know people who've committed suicide...while in the religion.They start brainwashing children by showing cartoons on how to behave. In the new system the kids can play with the lions?????
They spoon fed the elders and give them the scriptures to use in their talks.
No more really studying or contrasting. The population of jw goes up in 3rd world countries.
I think part of the reason they do this is to keep the cognitive dissident going. Because they’re giving to a posing opinions in the same video
My husband passed away 3 days ago, so I went to visit my JW Mom and sister in law because I really needed someone to talk to. They are both very loving and caring and I have nothing bad to say about them! My mom, however, did invite me to go to the Kingdom Hall just to see how much they have changed. I told her I wouldn't go for that very reason. Because if a religion claims to be the " one true religion ", they wouldn't constantly be changing the "rules". I was a little surprised that she agreed with me. At least I know she understands my reasoning.
Sorry for your loss. ❤
Well done on being strong even when going through such a hard hitting time ❤ Sorry for your loss
I’m sorry you lost your husband, a lot of the older ones like me can see the Governing body lying ❤
(Daniel 12:4) “As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.”
The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.”-Prov. 4:18
Da 12:9, 10 Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. 10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand.
It is so hurtful to realise it is a cult. I tried to do everything the right way. Know I have little to no orientation what is right anymore. But I still need the validation! It is so sad, I lived out of the validation from elders bevore… I did not plan my life ahead! I lived everyday as if it would be armagedonn the next day! So I lost this opportunity to dream with my fiancé about our future.
Could I respectfully suggest that our true identity is found in realising that when we put our trust in the FINISHED WORK of Jesus Christ on the cross, we know that we are ACCEPTED IN THE BELOVED. True shalom is found in the ‘Prince of Peace’ Jesus.
I’m 76 now, raised in and walked away over 45 years ago, makes me think that, had I known that I’d reach this age in this world, I’d have taken better care of myself 😆…
Just saying.
I still believe in the Bible but these videos and Ex Panda Tower helped me out of this Jw CULT
That's why these cults are the tool of our adversary...they lead people astray and when they discover the lies they turn away from God.
much love
Apply the same scrutiny and critical thinking to the Bible that helped you escape WT, and you won't believe in the Bible anymore either.
Waking up to the lie the Bible is will give you access to your next level of spiritual awakening.
The Trinity is the only thing that makes sense
Hands down to the best EX JW TH-camr! You had me laughing the whole time, especially when you got the dog involved!
lol I doubt that but I appreciate it. everyone has something to offer no doubt but glad you like my perspective
Everyone needs a dog in their life
@@exjehovahswitness I definitely did the research on the insight book and it wasn’t there so I googled it and I was like wow 😮 your spot on dude!
The dog is the best dancer!! Sorry bro...😂😂😂
The best way to leave the cult is by reading the Bible for yourself.
When you’re in the cult you don’t realize how often this “faithful and discreet slave” feed you the line how you have to trust them in order to be faithful to Jehovah. Now on the outside it is SO culty. We can, at the drop of a hat receive “new light” and you have to go with whatever we tell you because that’s what God wants. If you are truly appointed by God, shouldn’t you get it right the first time? Yikes
The days of the cult are numbered 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wally helped to wake me up. It's been 2 years now. I was in this disgusting cult since 1987-2022
I'm just a silly little guy! but happy to be here for your journey
There is a new religion called Baha'i that may accomplish the things they said. We're always going to happen in the Paradise but people have to actually follow it.... It's like a recipe for a spiritual civilization.... The prophet of this Faith reveals some specifics on marriage which probably helps civilization the most... (Parental permission, mainly unless they were abusive.... Oh and Muslims need to stop getting it on at 12... Should wait till 15 for the marriage to occur...
Wow..i studied it in 1987 and got out 2013..
@zachlightcap2179 That's a cult too. Be careful.
@@carolinegichia1687 doin' great... I'm 'oiut' of 'the world unity,' movement....🤭🥳.. mostly About having the best work you can find... + 12 Principles.... They want a 'universal house of justice '....
Even if it doesn't makes sense. First time I read it, that was the red flag what woke me up
yeah!
I always thought the whole faithful and discreet slave thing didn’t make sense because everytime I read the full chapter of that scripture, it was clearly just a parable about staying alert for Jesus’s return. He gave like 3 parables before that one on what he was talking about, yet the governing body took that specific parable and ran with it.
Hello from Norway 🌞(Google translation) I throw up ...of these self-appointed men who call themselves 'the governing body' who have just hired 2 new men to play 'THE faithful and disceet slave' 🤮 because that's exactly what is! a play for the gallery!
Isaiah 8:10, 2thimoty 3:7-9, 2Peter 2:1-3.
yeah they super suck!
Hello from Indiana USA
Me too
They haven't hired anyone as no one gets paid for their work. The members of the governing body are voted in based on the person record. Who do you think the apostles were in the 1st century CE and what were their roles?
I was brought into the Organization in the early 2000s and I remember, distinctly, the Elders giving multiple talks about how I wouldn't need to worry about graduating because the end would come before then. Hearing that they're coaching kids on how to build a life in "this system" has me just flabbergasted, I literally can't wrap my mind around the thought!
I think the GB and whoever is controlling them have come to understand that their decades old rhetoric of not getting educated and not having kids “because the time is so short” has started to stink big time! There’s an enormous backlash in the ex-JW community from people who believed the anti education crap and are now in their old age either living off welfare or still working odd jobs to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.
Many of these people even gave up scholarships when graduating from high school to follow the disgusting, life altering BS of being content working minimum wage jobs and going out knocking on doors for Watchtower.
@@allblue2184 id say u have a right to punch those elders, can i say that on TH-cam, lol.
The weird thing is they tell one generation Don't finish high school.
The next generation they let 😊get to choose. Rinse & repeat over and over.
@@RebeccadeWinter-t1c I’ve seen them start to encourage certain degrees, like getting a law degree. At the headquarters level, never going to tell the soldiers at the KH level its ok to get educated. Going to need free legal counsel at a mass level, so the Slave says “go to Harvard”🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I love that you don't curse. I like you work altogether but really appreciate that.
yeah sometimes I do but have been trying to be more welcomeing to those that might be waking up
I know I’m older, but some out there should remember a district convention where it was brought out that Noah’s sons held off having children till after the ark was built and the flood waters dried up. The inference was to hold off having a family until the “WORK” was done. That was about 40 yrs of so ago., probably a bit longer. Tell me, who would be sitting in the hall if that council was taken.?
My son was born in 1973 and I was frowned upon for having a child as the end was expected in 1975. He is 51 now and I have 3 beautiful grandchildren. I also had 2 more children and a beautiful granddaughter. Needless to say none of us attend meetings any longer.
Selling their own property yep. In 75 many sold their property and gave org money. It funded the infrastructure for the growth in late 80s and 90s
When I was first studying I was told to be careful about researching outside material. Was told the most truthful material about the borg was from the borg itself. "who would be the best writer of a cars owners manual other than the manufacturer??" they said. They love illustrations no matter how misused or illsuited they are
That mindset of them doesn’t make sense to me. How will you know the objective truth if you will not bother looking at the other side. The truth can’t be objective if the GB supress other information and not letting members to test and analyze it themselves.
Hitting the like button for the little dance with the doggo!
Thank you for your work. I'm a JW survivor, and watching your channel has validated my inner-turmoil about this dangerous cult. They still hold my mom hostage, but Im so grateful that mom and I have a relationship despite me being LGBT. I moved out at 16, long before this abhorrent encroachment on the internet started. I can see from your videos how they've really been dumbed down; there used to be a somewhat scholarly quality to the organization. I'm so grateful my mom and stepfather were not really close to the organization - their relationship with Watchtower was to do the minimum to stay in everyone's good graces, so that gave me some breathing room. Still wasn't easy though. You got some good dance moves!
Your brilliant analysis shows what a superb job of self education you have achieved. Congrats. I love your elegant digs too.
hey thanks! I try to invest in the life of the mind!
Yes, nice place!
It's really strange. It's like they keep trying not to be a cult but insist on being a cult.
Hello Wally! 👏👏👏👏👏🌟What a Bright Star you are😊! Thank You for all you do & being YOU!🌟👏💪
thanks! I will do nothing else then always be uniquely myself
You are soo right..the contradictions are astounding...was around them since the early 80s.. sadly my family still cling to their every word. Part of it I think is that it is so hard to change now given that we are now all in our 60s and my mom in her 90s. Never thought I would see past my mid 30s in this system. The misleading garbage is still coming out from them..pitiful.
that's crazy! your mom is in her 90's still waiting for the slot machine to hit..... I'm sorry
@@exjehovahswitness thx man..yeah it's crazy!!!
I was told I probably wouldn't get my drivers license or graduate school in this system....well I am almost 50! 🤷♂️
Your dog is like “he done lost it now” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Beth Sarim is what woke me up. With eyes open it is so easy to see.
As we can trust in that God Almighty provides for us, but we can also trust and be sure of that the Watchtower will not provide for its members, will not be there for them in their hour of need, will not love them, but will provide 'spiritual directions' that may or may not result in the members poverty and death.
yeah it pisses me off that they want so much blind obedience but don't help there members
You’re sense of humor is everything in this video!!!
Your videos get better and better. Entertainment
hey thanks! gotta keep growing as a person and getting better
Your funny sections are getting better all the time. Love your work mate 3:40
life is learning! so thanks I would be in a bad spot if I wasn't getting better
I love what you do Wally!My partner is an ex witness and I wanted to educate myself to better understand what they went through.
Been subscribed for over a year now, thank you for helping ex witnesses and people like me who want to truly understand. ❤
If the GB can give direction that doesn't make sense from a human standpoint, shouldn't that mean that they ARE inspired and infallible? 🤔🤔🤦♂🤦♂
😂😂😂
right? I seriously think they are confused about the things they are saying! Almost a sign they are fundamentally changing their religion!
It means the blind are leading the blind, and the outcome is not pretty.
The GB want the status of "inspired" but non of the responsibility when it turns out to be just a load of bs.
Ex JW from germany here. Your Videos are sooo awesome. Thank you so much!!!
The dance moves are the BEST! Your pets are all on board, and I’m impressed by your twirling. 😢😂😊
😁
An outsider hearing trust the governing body even if does not make sense from a human standpoint must sound wild! 😂
what a fascinating train wreck they have become
A Masterclass in Gaslighting
The other day I put jw October broadcast on my device, turned on my nintendo switch, and listened while I played a nice relaxing game. A few minutes later I was roaring with laughter at David Splane saying " do the math" when I suddenly realised I WASN'T listening to Wally or Jake or Panda, but the real thing!!!! loved the dancing, can we have some more please?
what were you playing? I am think I want to learn dragon ball this week
@@exjehovahswitness Just a bit of Zelda. It's nice to see you well and happy, keep those videos coming. 😊
You know who else talked about the end a lot and governments turning on them? Jonestown
lol how insane would that be
I always said They would put poison in the wine, and they would happily drink it 😩
I owe u a special apology Wally, i told people not join one cult in lieu of another , insinuating your making money off others problems. But after watching you, i think you are a my definition of meek. Not weak or unconfident like many think meek is. But kind and strong slow to anger but willing to stand against wrong. Sorry man, keep up the good work.
You the man Thanks!
hey thanks man! appreciate you
In a nutshell this is saying don't listen when anyone tells you the new governing body member is a real estate management expert
Wow. Nice Kevin Bacon Footloose moves! Waiting for the tractor race…
wow I actually read and replied to every comment so far and was thinking how did no one get the reference! Steven for the win!!!! LOL
.... I had a conversation with Canadian office about Bahai... I'm trying to turn myself in... Although the faith began prophetically in 1844 later in the 1960s, an individual had a spiritual experience and insight into the scriptures, leading him to believe he was the seventh angel and also Shiloh, One who would sound the trumpet.... Guess what year he was born....;)..
not me in the late 70's crying when my dad threw away all of his country music records because the latests convention told everyone it was evil and about drunkards and sex lol....yeah...rip Waylon Jennings
that is so sad!
I remember a convention where they called out certain bands, like KISS and I think Black Sabbath. I had a friend who bought and threw out Sabbath records every month, liking them then feeling guilty over and over. We all bonded over Rush. They rocked, but they were cerebral, and as JWs we thought we were cerebral. Nobody gave us crap about liking Rush.
@@cygnustspthat awesome drumming was wicked.
You got me binge watching like almost 10 videos while I should be going to sleep. Fascinating stuff, especially coming from an ex- member. I applaud your individual thinking to help you undo the years of brainwashing and break free. I need to keep this binge going, so you just got a sub from an atheist/agnostic who hasn't really been interested in _any_ religion for decades.
First class Wally. It shows you really care. You are an awesome lad mate. I didn't know you didn't attend school. Self education is priceless though which shows in your videos, erudite, eloquent, self deprecating and funny. I won't forget our phone chat after I woke up when I was in Tampa. It meant an awful lot as I was a mess. It helped me immensely. Keep on keeping on my friend.
Much love and appreciation from Scotland
There is no worse blind person than the one who does not want to see!!!😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@ others just make you wanna get up and boogie!”🤣🤣🤣🤣and drink hot sauce!!! Love it Fam! You’re killing it!!!🤘🏽✊🏽
hey thanks
Wally, you're such a good dancer!!! 😆😆 As well as your dog of course
I am not a good dancer but kevin bacon is an inspirational man! lol
Haha, faithful and discreet
DISCREET
that's great 👍
I seriously can't get that country song out of my head!
Right? It’s driving me nuts!
Same.
There's a JW wedding this weekend playing this song and line dancing
I need a video of that happening in my life! wait.... imagine they are actually trying to make a wedding playlist.... wait that was a joke but what if.....?
Thank you again for all that you do! ❤ I no absolutely love the dance!! 😂
lol you are welcome
Your physical “spins” and otherwise are improving by the minute! 😂
Seriously though., love it!
Thanks 😅
I Love the dancing 😂
You have a beautiful home full of beautiful 4legged friends!
Your friend Kristine
hey thanks
Don’t think about the New World, just leave your “go bag” by the front door tripping over it every single day🙄
That made me giggle
Thank you for normalizing dancing like a clown around your house. I do this all the time but it’s nice to see someone else doing it 😊
You’re welcome 😊
love what you do at the 3 min point ... we should all do more of that ;)
agreed!
Why are all Governing body members American?
God is an American it's a song from jean Pierre Ferland 😂😂😂😂
cuz this is best country on the planet! LOL yeah I don't think they really thought it through all the way. they are an American religion after all so there is that
Easier to congregate when it comes to making important decisions like men allowed to wear beards and women wearing slacks.
I think ( puts on tinfoil hat ) it's about power. If the GB was as international as the organization they represent, then they would have to worry about GB members leaving and taking a portion of the people with them from their respective countries.
@@morningglory9288 Hahaha, My parents have been non stop JW's since 1968. My Dad is 83 now a few months ago I went to their house and he had a full beard, and he said "they let us have beards now".. i was so lolol. He has been a elder for probably 45 years.
I get along fine with them now, but it was not easy growing up as a kid. I moved out when I was 15.
Thanks from Brazil❤
you are welcome from america
This generation will not pass away 😅😅😅😅 what a joke 🎉
I don't even know what generation means anymore
@exjehovahswitness well I'm a baby boomer, and we are all dying 😉
It's why theres a new generation of GB members rising up. Makes no sense when the generation of 1914 wasn't meant to pass away.
It seems like just another episode of jumping off the plane at 30K feet without a parachute because the GB says to do it to trust them
😂😂 true
damn!
Watching this video, I really need to share what took place a few days ago at one of my jobs.
During the day, I work as a housekeeper at a Marriott chain hotel, and while cleaning rooms I was refreshing a couple's room. Little did I knew, they were JWs, and they were going to keep me in that room to talk to me about the world and how if we don't come back to Jehovah, we will get destroyed. The craziest thing is I recalled telling them that I left the religion due to sexual abuse and mistreatment towards those who aren't uber JWs, they tried to downplay the situation and say that it wasn't Jehovah's fault, but men and Satan was using men to test your faith. The part that gets me about that conversation and this video about the brother having to sacrifice everything for paradise is that I was that person before until I woke up in 2020 where I would talk to people about Jehovah and tell them to hold out hope because the world was going to end one day. Now looking back, I had to start everything from the ground up and figure out what I want to do with my life and that includes going back to school to get my bachelors and masters, so I can become an LCSW to help those who been through the same roller coaster ride as me. I want to thank you for sharing this video because this was just another reminder to me of why I left that fucked up religion, wrote down my goals, and going after them one by one.
wow! it's so crazy how someone can explain away sexual abuse as a test from satan! why would a loving god allow that kind of test??? I wish you the best on your journey
Please dont forget: evolution never stops!
It’s just around the corner …Tell your mom that .I can walk to the corner store in less time .
🤣🤣🤣 Epic Sir! Just spot on! 👍
Why do all the elders look like they starred in, "Tales From the Crypt?"
Tldr: The End will never come because it doesn't exist. End of story.
I also want to reiterate my own personal belief: man fears that of which he doesn't understand. The more knowledge and understanding you gain, the less you have to fear.
The proverb of "fear" is so true.
Kudos 100% my friend.
amen!
@@exjehovahswitnessThe other thing I live by is that in every piece of fiction, there is some truth between the lines. You just have to find and verify it.
Regarding the black and white thinking of JWs- the world, and as such the universe, does not exist within such confines of definition. All is a combination of both, and of neither at the same time. If you observe nature, you'll see that it can be both beautiful and cruel. But this does not make it bad or evil. It is merely that it *is.* And that is all it needs to be.
@@robertgrey6101Thank you very much.
It is why the WT censors any outside thinking. They know if they limit information, the fear grows amongst their members. They grow more paranoid and more on edge, because they fear that which they do not understand.
The only end I see is members wanting to be there in watchtower😅😅
Sup Wally and Zeezy😸😼😏🌿
I doubled the floor space in my room while listening to this. Great thing to listen to in the background while doing chores. Still need to get a bookshelf for all my extra books, but im sure the dog will be happy to have more resting spots available
hell yeah!
@@exjehovahswitness I mean he's probably going to roll around the tubs of crayons again regardless of the empty floor space and make a mess, but I don't think he can mess my room up as bad as it was before.
Notice, Jesus isn’t in the picture they paint? I’m sure it’s not an oversight.
The governing body celebrated jw broadcasting's 10th birthday with a new theme song.
Yet they don't believe in celebrationg birthdays. Hypocrites!
Watching him talk about how they may be asking how long, i cringed....its like the cringiest stuff ever! "When will you murder everyone except us"?! 😅. Yuck!
Their propaganda makes me feel sick.
I love how they constantly liken the organization to Jehovah, almost like they are the same thing. Even if JWs got a couple things right, such as the trinity, hell, etc, the way they idolize the organization is dangerous ground. The God of the bible allowed his literal temple to be destroyed. While Watchtower might think they are above this, the history of the bible seems to suggest otherwise. Maybe the real tribulation doesn't start with the destruction of Christendom but instead starts with the destruction of the Watchtower for their idolatry. But then what the heck do I know? I'm just some guy on the internet.
An intriguing first century example is that of the Qumran community (Essenes) who had a war plan and expected to be the victors over an upcoming end times war with Rome with God on their side.-See the War Scroll. They ultimately did fight and were destroyed.
Makes sense
1914 is what will break this religion. They HAVE to discard this doctrine, but the ex JW community is hounding watchtower so much that they can't find a good distraction to slip in this change. The longer they wait the more members they will lose. Watchtower really needs a respite from the ex JW community to put a spin on the 1914 doctrine. Off course the level of scrutiny will not let up from the ex JW community for WT to reinvent itself.
lol! imagine they are actually pressed about us goofballs that they can't do what jehovah wants!!!!
When they talk about all the building projects, they’re actually getting prepared for the new system and the resurrection. They’ll have to have places for everybody to learn what has happened. They need “schools.” Conventions and assemblies will most likely continue.
Knowledge is power. They don’t want anyone with power.
Wally your videos keep getting better and better. Thanks for helping me to think outside my comfort zone.
It’s so narcissistic thinking WE are going to teach people. Like there’s no one else that GOD has ever used.
The narcissism is pretty epic
The discreet part of TFADS, seems to be knowing it's all a scam, and keeping quiet about it.
lol that is the best reason I have ever heard
A really thought provoking video. Well done & thank-you
Thank you so much for your videos!
Your dancing made my day 😄 !!!
I try my best to make peoples day a little better
Thanks for sharing that extract about suspicion. Something clicked there for me. To sum it up in my brain, basically lack of knowledge leads to increased suspicion, the only way to cure that suspicion is through further consumption of knowledge . Makes total sense🤯🤦🏽
Yep been there done that. But as a member of the LDS church. I only went because my mom would drag us on Easter Sunday and then my Nana (who has since found out that the Mormons are a cult and she's re educating herself about religion at the age of 74) I'm so proud of her. But I have had this insane issue with the LDS for years but kept it hush hush until one day my Nana called "Jessie.. what do you think of the church?" I froze. One of my best traits came out. I literally cannot lie. So I told her "well Nana I believe it's a crock of shit" expecting her to flip on me but she just laughed and said "me too". They get your brain all sorts of messed up and once you finally get everything straightened out.. it's hard from what I've seen here on TH-cam. I didn't really have the back and forth guilt per say.. the paranoia and anxiety though.. it was tough. I broke it to my mom way earlier than my Nana thought. I think I was around 21-22 and my Mom flipped on me and kicked me out of the house (but bought me a king suite hotel room to stay in for a week? I dunno). I'm almost 29 and I've been screamed at soo many times calling me an Atheist among other things. I do believe there's something out there.. but I don't agree with organized religion. I was always walking on eggshells until my Nana told me she was over it too. I had someone on my side then
I'm always enjoying to watch your videos. Well done. Greetings from Germany
20:21 I laughed my ass off so hard!!!! Hahahaha
that's why I am here
@@exjehovahswitness love the videos Wally. My family of ten woke up in the last few years. Your humor has helped a lot. God bless you man.
😂😂😂 hilarious
This is JUST One of the BEST videos of the many I love that you've created ! The great dancing was THE BEST! Thank you for all you videos, the laughs and humor and the serious and hartfelt. ❤
I was baptized in 1975, and from age 15 to 48 I totally preached this rubbish, being a regular pioneer and an elder, I shelved all my doubts, I was repeatedly told from the 70's the end is near and I preached it, I excused them their faults, I lived in that box they put me in until I could take it no more, I was not the person that I recognised as me and I was disfellowshipped and to make my own mind up at last was true freedom, I grew a beard because I chose to, not because someone allowed me to, I hate the word "follow", I will never follow anyone.
And, why just be found a "good person" just to survive Jehovah's day? No, you should be a good person per se, because it is your contribution to your community, because it is good for the growth of society, the purpose of being good is far wider than just personal salvation.
Now it's 50 years closer! Just joking. It's a terrible way to live life.
@@ramrod576 I cannot be angry at my parents or the ones that studied with them, I'm angry at the organization for convincing people this rubbish was real and needed urgent action
@@markperry9427 yup. The cultists are victims too. Even if they are still in.
I agree with you 💯
I’m subscribing. That dancing and your dog did it for me 😂
You won't be disappointed, Wally is good fun and a good guy
This intro is one of my favorite that you have ever made. I needed that laugh today 😂🙌🏼
I spent 22 years of my life listening to this dribble going round and round and round in circles for years. I literally wasted my entire youth because of a dead end religion that was forced on me from birth. Looking back now at the age of 26 i wish that I'd broken free at 18 so i could have had relationships with whoever I wanted and developed into a normal healthy well rounded human being a lot quicker rather than still feeling like I'm adjusting now 4 years after breaking free.
"spiritual battle" - yes the imaginary savior, if we believe in him he will protect us from the imaginary boogie man the Devil. Like the Bethel heavy said in open court "JW's only offer a spiritual protection" i.e. an imaginary one.
Wally, outside of the video, that 4 minutes… I Love You Bro. I’m a less well spoken version of you. We shall meet. Real talk. Need you in my not profit, Trade Hands. Big Love!!!🤘🏽✊🏽
what's your non profit?
What about September broadcast that told us not to think about when paradise was comming??????
I swear they are confused about what they have said now
That country song low key slaps 👏 😂
I don't even like country but I have been whistling it for 3 days now
What gets me is they have all but went around CHRIST & make it seem you can talk directly to GOD when scriptures are clear it ALL goes thru the SON.
thank you
You're welcome
So, the point made about the Governing Body changing their own views was most notably evident in the testimony that Geoffrey Jackson gave in the ARC hearings. Immediately after the infamous “presumptuous” line, he says in reference to Matt. 24:45, that “they view themselves as trying to fulfill that role.” Enough said.
done!
@@exjehovahswitness I made a video about that very thing. th-cam.com/video/dVyauPds2UA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OgbmwrW_EMwi8BAD
Your best video yet bro! You got some moves 😂
I showed that book to my dad because he thought i was being an apostate .i asked him to read it and he did about old prophets coming back and it even shows the picture of the mansion they bought to shelter them and he turned red and said i wasn't smart enough to educate him,geez.theres other books way before it where it explains how they bought the mansion and every prophet that would ressurrect in 1925.the book you showed is already sugar coating it and doesnt give a huge info of it but does say it ,notice in tiny letters.
so frustrating!
@@exjehovahswitnessso true man ,it hits their ego when you show them facts yet they still don't get it.
Another hilarious amazing video 🔥🔥🔥Thanks Wally keep’em coming
Dancing with the dog 😂❤
he's a funny little guy
You have to keep in mind that the doctrinal creators of the JWS were also the top executive directors of the Watchtower Corporation, a commercialized religious publishing house, holding to intellectual honesty. Exploiting the ignorant and vulnerable by using fear and intimidation was part of their strategy to both promote their publications and to sustain its working free labour participates.
Problem though now is that people who were active JWS are waking up to the fact they weren't serving Jehovah or Jesus as their discrete servants but were being manipulated into being subservient servants to those men, who were inherently sinful and scriptural apostates .
yeah I hate when people exploit others ignorance. that is battle I will always fight
That was a long time ago. The GB separated themselves from Watchtower over 20 years ago.
Yet again, they keep using "African" friends and examples, with the accents, etc. Since it is the only place in the world where there is growth. Praying on the poor and hopeless...its disgusting.