Douglas Jones lmao imagine saying you paid 50 K for a damn 2.0 4cyl lol And Has less horsepower than a Camry or Honda pilot... lol it literally has the same power numbers as the 2GRFE in my avalon lol
I think dropping in the proven audi 3.0 supa charged v6 engine would save time on development and having 300+ hp is plenty enough especially with sc torque. I have the 3.6 v6 and the only thing I wish it had was a manual tranny.
@@andresparrow2971 If you want that just find a last-gen Audi A7 with low miles. It'll have all of the features and a better interior while costing less. Looks great too. But what this car really needs is the drivetrain from the Golf-R with AWD, which it has... only in Europe😔
It really doesn't need a V6. I had the APR+ tune installed at delivery which gives me 358hp/348lb/ft torque. 0-60 is in the mid 5 second range. Best highway mileage I have done on an 820 mile road trip was 37.8 mpg.
@@DMCarReviews not really. Every reviewer said the problem with this car is not matter how you order it from bottom of the line to the top, you have blank switches.
After saying sport mode would be hard to live with on a daily basis.... Curious if you even had it in sport mode when you attacked the cones and commented on the handling?
I ran a 14.0s @ 100mph on my stock VW Arteon 4MOTION R-Line 268hp/258tq. The secret to get a good start is to not floor it from the start. Use Sport + M1 mode, with ASR off. Lightly brake boost, press 50-60% throttle, and add full throttle once you get up to ~30mph. Gets you the best 60ft, and best times.
I love my VW but.. build quality is still questionable, and I’ve had a few issues in the 10k miles i have owned it.. I wouldn’t buy a 30k dollar version much less 45k..
ShartingFish weird, my friend got one of those and he has no issues over the year he’s had it. I have a 2017 passat r-line and that hasn’t had a single issue and it has over 30k miles on it now. I usually have bad juju when it comes to cars and the Passat has been the most reliable car I’ve owned so far
This is really compelling for those who want a cheaper Audi A5 Sportback, but this first year model is already having reliability issues. I'd wait a year or two on this one so VW can get out the bugs.
For being a phaeton/CC replacement and the new flagship, you’d think we wouldn’t get a parts bin 2.0T. I don’t think this will sell well, especially with today’s superb competition.
I tried to Google it, and my guess is that is has to do with the rear collision monitoring system. Might have activated the camera under hard braking to check out the soroundings?
The good part is you can reprogram that turbo with a ecu flash and im sure get 300+ out the 4 banger. Thats all vw and audi does...take the same ol 2.0 4 cyl and put bigger turbo and different mapping on it to get more or less output.
It's a nice car but who is it aimed at the price is just too high for middle America it's not a BMW or Mercedes so where are the buyers going to come simple answer they will look good in the showroom but be a slow sale
Seriously! The car looks like a chevy malibu from the sides. I guess it look good thought. Also way too expensive! Yikes! When is vw gonna learn! I can see fail already, on the sales department!
Compared to the exterior which is great, interior design and materials are disappointing Those who wouldn't mind the 10k price difference between this car and Camry/Accord/Sonata etc. would probably not buy this car. Because they have enough money to ignore 10k.
I was kind of wondering why you were comparing the arteon To the Camry accord and sonata The arteon would be better compared to the Toyota Avalon they’re about the same price range the Passat is the main competition for the Camry accord and sonata
This car has a much better interior than any Camry or Accord, it has very deep soft touch materials all around while Camry and Accord are full of hard plastics.
"A modern amount of money" nobody is going to be buying this at a $36k starting price. Its too expensive for what you get, and you still have to deal with the pains of a digital dashboard that was cheaply made and will fail in just a few short years. I have no idea who designed this car for the market, but they set it up for failure off the line. Same could be said for the alltrac. Which only comes with a measly 170hp, and cant even tow 3,000 lbs. Vw is completely lost on what the market wants. Then again, most auto manufacturers are these days.
I purchased my 2019 Arteon SEL Premium R-Line new for $39,500. For an additional $1,200 I had the APR+ Tune downloaded which brought it to 358hp/348 lb/ft torque. 0-60 in the mid 5 second range.
boring as hell ford taurus side profile front and rear kia optima sorry VW as much as i have been a long time lover this is HORRIBLE I'll just buy the kia for less money and better warranty GOODBYE OR SHOULD I SAY "AUF WIEDERSEHEN"
The car's a joke at this price. The Kia Stinger has the performance to justify its price. This is a fancy Golf. The MK7 Golf is one of my favorite current cars, but this is way too much money. This would be cooler if it came with a manual :(
Its not just about 0-60 times its also about how the car drives and handles. Personally I would rather have the practicality of handing than a useless 0-60 time that ill never use in the real world. And this is coming from an Avalon owner.
@@blackprobegt2000 As a life-long VW/Audi owner, I agree. I will say, that the new Avalon interiors are gorgeous. The Arteon does have that Audi RS5 hatchback look though.
john doe I'm not basing it just on that, I'm also looking at the features you get and the interior, and this interior is ridiculously bland I'm like who would have ever thought a Camry would have better interior than a Volkswagen But the day has come, The fast back hatch practicality is nice but at that price point when you compare this to in Avalon or Camry it's not much better the ride in a Avalon and camry are pretty decent especially the newer, The virtual gauge cluster is the only thing compelling in the VW, but the interior is where you spend most of your time and yuck... If I'm going to have a high maintenance costs I expect high quality, and this is a coming from the Avalon owner I have a 2017,
1vw4me you spend most of your time in the car so interior counts, And I'm sorry but there are cars 15 K less with a much better interior than this, VW should be ashamed.. I don't see this car being worth the price premium bs competition, even a chysler 300 is more appealing inside
I bet John Davis will still review for Motorweek in 2119.
Uhhh duh he's a fucking reptilian
itsconnorjon @ 171 y.o.? Why not?
I hope he will!
39 seasons and still going strong.
We need to perfect cloning like now.
When did nearly 50K become affordable!?!?
Exactly... Insane money for a car
EXACTLY !!! and for fwd!!??? lol You can get a decent C class with that money and maybe E class
Exactly
Douglas Jones lmao imagine saying you paid 50 K for a damn 2.0 4cyl lol And Has less horsepower than a Camry or Honda pilot... lol it literally has the same power numbers as the 2GRFE in my avalon lol
A fully loaded Ford Expolrer is pushing over 60k!
This really needs a turbo 3 liter V6 with 400 horsepower to go with that all-wheel drive. Then I would totally get one.
I think dropping in the proven audi 3.0 supa charged v6 engine would save time on development and having 300+ hp is plenty enough especially with sc torque. I have the 3.6 v6 and the only thing I wish it had was a manual tranny.
@@andresparrow2971
If you want that just find a last-gen Audi A7 with low miles. It'll have all of the features and a better interior while costing less. Looks great too.
But what this car really needs is the drivetrain from the Golf-R with AWD, which it has... only in Europe😔
It really doesn't need a V6. I had the APR+ tune installed at delivery which gives me 358hp/348lb/ft torque. 0-60 is in the mid 5 second range. Best highway mileage I have done on an 820 mile road trip was 37.8 mpg.
John Davis is such a legend. It’s great that he’s still at this. I feel like I’ve been following him for 40yrs.
A German reincarnation of Saab's 9-3, which was offered with turbo and hatchback!
The problem is when you configure this car to top trim, you still get blank switches.
What blank switches?
@@DMCarReviews around the shifter.
@@Andrew-zv4fm Audi has the same exact buttons.
@@DMCarReviews not really. Every reviewer said the problem with this car is not matter how you order it from bottom of the line to the top, you have blank switches.
@@Andrew-zv4fm Look at A4/A5 models. Same case. That's just picking on stuff, when there is nothing to pick on.
After saying sport mode would be hard to live with on a daily basis....
Curious if you even had it in sport mode when you attacked the cones and commented on the handling?
Anybody notice the rear emblem at 2:04-2:07? Looks like it was closing.
That’s the backup camera my golf does the same
@@brynnleahnayvieghlaykynnn6175 but they were driving forward. So it randomly opens like that sometimes?
Kevin C no it usually closes like 4 seconds after shifting out of reverse
It’s probably malfunctioning, typical VW
It's probably breathing
Much like the Kia Stinger, without the extra 100HP available
The Future Is Here and minus the RWD ,, NOPE!!!🙅🏽♂️😂😂😂😂lmaoo shit you can get a 330 or c300 for that price
Much like the Buick Regal. There, fixed it.
Darryl Henry buick regal!!! lmao😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 i hate vw, But that is definitely not a much better option
Kia = too bad it’s a Kia. Lmao
@@JDMHaze unless you get the Buick Regal in OPC trim
One of the only new cars I actually like
I like how motorweek is doing reviews
It truly feels like a 1980s review
Also that's the original test track? Wow. It looks so abandoned
It is abandoned...
Yeah it's way overpriced but it could make a nice used car down the line
what does that even mean?
@@Sartheris : It means that in a few years when its value has dropped & it can be bought for a lot less it would be worth buying.
I got a 2020 SE used with 4k miles for $27,900. There's low demand for these cars so you can get crazy deals.
Yeah.. there’s a reason for that.
This is a car you lease and then dump before the warranty is up.
Only $50,000, I can finally afford it and I will take 7 Arteon. 1 Arteon for each day of the week.
In November 2019 I purchased my Arteon SEL Premium R-Line for $39,500.
I ran a 14.0s @ 100mph on my stock VW Arteon 4MOTION R-Line 268hp/258tq. The secret to get a good start is to not floor it from the start. Use Sport + M1 mode, with ASR off. Lightly brake boost, press 50-60% throttle, and add full throttle once you get up to ~30mph. Gets you the best 60ft, and best times.
Why didn't you measure the 1/4 mile time? Those wheels though😍
I love my VW but.. build quality is still questionable, and I’ve had a few issues in the 10k miles i have owned it.. I wouldn’t buy a 30k dollar version much less 45k..
ShartingFish what VW do you have?
Shawn Childs 2018 VW GTI s with the performance package..
ShartingFish weird, my friend got one of those and he has no issues over the year he’s had it. I have a 2017 passat r-line and that hasn’t had a single issue and it has over 30k miles on it now. I usually have bad juju when it comes to cars and the Passat has been the most reliable car I’ve owned so far
You don't buy German cars, you lease them. Or you buy something else.
Nice Jetta interior.
Why did did the trunk release change positions while driving around the 2:05 mark?
Neat car, but the background music is distracting. Am I watching a car review or at a rave?
This is front wheel drive? My arteon does consistently 5.4 second to 100
This is really compelling for those who want a cheaper Audi A5 Sportback, but this first year model is already having reliability issues.
I'd wait a year or two on this one so VW can get out the bugs.
Rob L. This vehicle has been out in Germany for the last two years
50k isn't cheaper.
Really nice car....too bad you have to go top of the range just to get a power lift gate.
You can get parts to add the power gate to the base version. I might have done that had I known, but I just went with the SEL-Premium.
Yes… because you know what really hard?
(lift).
Looks gorgeous 😍😍😍
Wait! The CC was front wheel drive. So is this! Why no comparisons to the Malibu? Looks like one!
This is NOT your grandfathers Malibu. AWD (4Motion) is available.
Are you guys at motorweek going to test the Regal GS?
ssr1680
Hell no
For being a phaeton/CC replacement and the new flagship, you’d think we wouldn’t get a parts bin 2.0T. I don’t think this will sell well, especially with today’s superb competition.
Nope, too expensive for lazy handling. I'd buy a Stinger or Genesis instead. Most Americans will buy a VW Atlas for similar money.
Arteon exterior + A5 interior = take this $$
How is it stack against the Stinger? I like the exterior, but performance and price are the deal breaker.
Probably couldn't hold the stingers jockstrap.
I heard a lot of negatives at the beginning, but a very positive summary at the end of this review. Makes me wonder how MOTORWEEK really feels(?)
I swear that the side of this car looks like "new" Malibu's
2:06 why did the rear camera open and then close?
I saw that too. Hope someone replies
I tried to Google it, and my guess is that is has to do with the rear collision monitoring system. Might have activated the camera under hard braking to check out the soroundings?
It’s the back up camera. My golf does it as well. Takes a few to close after coming out of reverse.
Christopher Ovrebo Ok awesome , thanks for the research. Awesome head turning deployment, love that it’s under the VW Badge.
It's the rear view camera being exposed. At 10 mph in 'D', it closes flush.
I was expecting a larger engine with more power option for the flagship car
The good part is you can reprogram that turbo with a ecu flash and im sure get 300+ out the 4 banger. Thats all vw and audi does...take the same ol 2.0 4 cyl and put bigger turbo and different mapping on it to get more or less output.
Yeah.. and the engine grenades in a few months.
Sorry.. but VW engines aren’t exactly robust to begin with.
I wonder if this one is also made in Mexico? 9/22/2019 according to Wikipedia is made in China and Germany with different names.
It's not. It's made in Germany on the MQB platform.
No!!!!!!
Hell naw it's made in Germany, fool
@@CarringtonHollister
So you inspect the driver side inner door country of manufacturing label. Mr Fool you thanks for the info.
It's made in Emden, Germany.
Beautiful car.
John just isn’t sufficiently critical in these reviews. Just go back and look at what he said about cars decades ago. It sounds like advertising.
Then dont watch
The car looks decent enough . However, for the price I would rather get a Kia Stinger GT. It offer more value and performance for the price .
j cortes I’d rather get a used A7...pass on the Kia...yuck.
I'd rather pocket 5-10k and buy an Accord Touring
It's a nice car but who is it aimed at the price is just too high for middle America it's not a BMW or Mercedes so where are the buyers going to come simple answer they will look good in the showroom but be a slow sale
Seriously! The car looks like a chevy malibu from the sides. I guess it look good thought. Also way too expensive! Yikes! When is vw gonna learn! I can see fail already, on the sales department!
The Arteon is being discontinued in 2023MY. It is being redesigned as an EV model under a new model name for 2024.
Compared to the exterior which is great, interior design and materials are disappointing
Those who wouldn't mind the 10k price difference between this car and Camry/Accord/Sonata etc. would probably not buy this car.
Because they have enough money to ignore 10k.
I was kind of wondering why you were comparing the arteon To the Camry accord and sonata The arteon would be better compared to the Toyota Avalon they’re about the same price range the Passat is the main competition for the Camry accord and sonata
This car has a much better interior than any Camry or Accord, it has very deep soft touch materials all around while Camry and Accord are full of hard plastics.
Nice car but ummmm pathetic ass 4 cylinder no thanks it needs the Golf R's powertrain then I'll consider buying it.
This thing is an absolute joke. Far too much money for what this is.
All better for the same or far less money. Accord Touring 2.0t, Stinger, G70.
Ugh all looks nothing else..
"A modern amount of money" nobody is going to be buying this at a $36k starting price. Its too expensive for what you get, and you still have to deal with the pains of a digital dashboard that was cheaply made and will fail in just a few short years. I have no idea who designed this car for the market, but they set it up for failure off the line.
Same could be said for the alltrac. Which only comes with a measly 170hp, and cant even tow 3,000 lbs. Vw is completely lost on what the market wants. Then again, most auto manufacturers are these days.
My 2.0L Accord Sport and previous '19 GTI DSG are both wayy faster than the Arteon. Hope this helps.
Your 3,000 lb GTI is faster? This thing is a boat.
passat
Over priced and ugly.
@ $45K?? 268HP?? 2L 4CYL?? LOL!! STOCK HP FOR A FLAGSHIP SHOULD NEVER BE UNDER 300HP annnnd VW COULDA DID THAT WITH A 2.5L 4. I'LL PASS.
I purchased my 2019 Arteon SEL Premium R-Line new for $39,500. For an additional $1,200 I had the APR+ Tune downloaded which brought it to 358hp/348 lb/ft torque. 0-60 in the mid 5 second range.
boring as hell ford taurus side profile front and rear kia optima sorry VW as much as i have been a long time lover this is HORRIBLE I'll just buy the kia for less money and better warranty GOODBYE OR SHOULD I SAY "AUF WIEDERSEHEN"
The car's a joke at this price. The Kia Stinger has the performance to justify its price. This is a fancy Golf. The MK7 Golf is one of my favorite current cars, but this is way too much money. This would be cooler if it came with a manual :(
($36K base)268hp VW 0-60=6.2
($31K base)301Hp V6 Camry 0-60: 5.7 (with better interior.... FAIL
($36K base)301Hp Avalon 0-60:6.0 or less
Its not just about 0-60 times its also about how the car drives and handles. Personally I would rather have the practicality of handing than a useless 0-60 time that ill never use in the real world. And this is coming from an Avalon owner.
@@blackprobegt2000 As a life-long VW/Audi owner, I agree. I will say, that the new Avalon interiors are gorgeous. The Arteon does have that Audi RS5 hatchback look though.
john doe I'm not basing it just on that, I'm also looking at the features you get and the interior, and this interior is ridiculously bland I'm like who would have ever thought a Camry would have better interior than a Volkswagen But the day has come, The fast back hatch practicality is nice but at that price point when you compare this to in Avalon or Camry it's not much better the ride in a Avalon and camry are pretty decent especially the newer, The virtual gauge cluster is the only thing compelling in the VW, but the interior is where you spend most of your time and yuck... If I'm going to have a high maintenance costs I expect high quality, and this is a coming from the Avalon owner I have a 2017,
1vw4me you spend most of your time in the car so interior counts, And I'm sorry but there are cars 15 K less with a much better interior than this, VW should be ashamed.. I don't see this car being worth the price premium bs competition, even a chysler 300 is more appealing inside
Its all personal opinion then on the interior cause I love it. Very tidy, neat and not too flashy at all