Overall: What Shay did was wrong and disgusting. This affair went on for 3 MONTHS. There's literally no excuse as to why he kept going back to the woman and continued to cheat on his wife, the clock was ticking for him to eventually get caught and he knew that but still pursued. It was a choice , and a wrong one and I feel like he understands that now (after 3 years). As I said in the video, the family is still trying to heal from all of this (especially the kids who are getting dragged into it because their faces have on the internet since they were 4 years old). SO PLEASE don't go and send hate to the family. I hope you learned a lot during this series about the messed up things that goes on with family vlogging channels (I know I have lmao). Anyway, hope y'all enjoyed and can't wait to hang out with you and tell stories again :) xoxo, Hailey
I couldn’t imagine waking up to a camera in my face and having it follow me around EVERYDAY, I’d loose my mind. I feel bad for children who have to experience that
when i was younger, i had behavioral issues and mental health issues and i would be so upset/embarrassed when my mom told family about it. i can’t imagine how horrified i would be if it was shared on the internet for all to see 😩
@@misseselise3864 fr! I don’t have any mental issues I deal with but when my mom would tell family member my business I would be so embarrassed and mad at her. I would hate it to be on the internet for everyone. Also I wish you well with anything that you have going on 💕
Just the title "Fat Dad, Fat Kid" made me feel sick. Especially given that the kid was 12. I feel like we all remember every single time we were called fat at age 12, that shit sticks with you
i remember being called fat then, and then I spent 13-23 eating only once a day or every other day in an attempt to lose weight. for reference i had a undiagnosed hormone issue so i just gained weight anyway
@@paanora440 I completely agree! The context of his videos was definitely intending it that way though, and I hope his son is doing okay based on having that public stigma attached to him
Personally I wasn't called 'fat' I was called 'twig' 'stick' and 'barbie' and despite telling people I don't like these nicknames, the nicknames continued. They would do that wrist thing and say "Omg you're so skinny, you're like barbie" and I'd just be there like "yeah I know, now stop mentioning it"
EXACTLY NO SHIT YOURE THE ONE THAT FUCKING CHEATED POOR GIRL WAS SO LOST AND IT WAS HIS FUCKING FAULT THE WHOLE TIME??? like i know a marriage is a mutual relationship like both parties have responsibility but he’s the one that fucked up bro and if i were their kids i would never forgive my father if he cheated on my mom
I’ve noticed this trend on social media with couples lately. “We are dilated 7 meters”; “We are having contractions”; “We are struggling and working towards reconciliation” - Um, what? Can WE not?
I think that he got upset when Nina mentioned his kid because he had only associated Nina with the sexual nature of their relationship and she “ruined his fantasy” bringing him back to his reality of being a father with a WIFE. That’s my pop psychology for today. I wonder if they would have continued if she never mentioned the kids.
well that and also what she said WAS weird. she literally said, while knowing flirting with a married man, “give me your son.” like yea she’s just at fault as he is
@@jillianc7485 thank you! She didn't just say he was cute. He was wrong for cheating, and perhaps he was also genuinely concerned for his baby's safety. If anyone I was dating asked to take my kid, I would also cut that person out of my life. They're probably joking, but its not worth the risk.
Colette's response to the cheating was so heartbreaking. When she came back and talked about how she had accepted that her dream had died and that she had to grow up and be realistic.
It's sad because nina isn't the only one who put up with Shays disgusting behavior. A woman by the name of Danna Richards has alluded to the fact that shay sexually assaulted her. I don't remember much because it was a while ago but she has videos on her TH-cam channel and even wrote a song about it. th-cam.com/video/tfBkzmZReBc/w-d-xo.html
They could highlight how families keep trying to maintain a “perfect family” visage, and it’s actually harming the kids/family that isn’t doing the physical vlogging. It could be turned into a sort of competition in which families enter to win some recognition (money, game, or something else) by showing the perfect lives of the family. For example, the 8 passengers channel could be in an episode where the mom, Ruby, enters into an online competition in which the winner gets some prize. So she starts following the competition rules (vlogging everyday, minimum time limits, interesting content, etc.) only to realize that as more and more people are eliminated and more people start watching, that it’s harder to keep audiences watching. So she starts to up the ante by doing crazier and borderline sadistic pranks/punishments to her kids. In the end, she does something so awful that either 1) police take custody of her kids/divorced by her husband or 2) one of her kids ends up getting seriously injured and/or killed and she ends up losing custody this way. Ruby ends up winning the competition. But she also lost her family doing so.
@Alisha Dorleans Is there a rule somewhere that states I have to be asked to speak on something? Where I live, we have something called the first amendment. And I'm pretty sure nothing in the TH-cam TOS doesn't require anyone to be asked to say something before they do. If something changes though please, let me know 😂
@Mind ur business Yeah, my folks are Mormon so I’m pretty protective of them, but also if you’re calling me a Mormonphobe I should clarify that this is a reference to a vine where the original goes: “AND they were roommates!” “Oh my god, they were roommates.” th-cam.com/video/S0iM3bkkpbI/w-d-xo.html This is the vine But also saying someone is Mormon is not an insult.
As someone who used to watch the Shaytards religiously in 07-11 (when I was a teenager), I do feel you skipped over the fact that the family started out as struggling financially. They were this kind of rags to riches story, that we could see every step of their journey since they had daily vlogs. While I don't watch family vlogs now, I feel like that was what made people like myself such big fans back then. They were real, and felt like our own family. I think that's important to note. They're very different than Influencer families are now, and if you watched them back then in real time you would know what I was talking about. (Obviosuly that eventually changed, and you covered their downfall very well)
I watched them when I was a teenager too. They were the only family vlogging channel I watched and I felt like I was part of their family, because I have a big family as well and they had a "normal" Life like us. When the scandal happened I felt so sad and disgusted with Shay that I could never watch them again or any other family channel. It also scared me to think that something like that could happen to me. Because they looked so happy and nice.. And to have a family and then your husband does that. Must be hard to leave him :(
That is so true. As a brazilian child that was raised with an american culture (my parents and siblings lived in the USA for years but I have never been there) watching the Shaytards family was very nice and showed a realistic family in the USA that my mother would talk about it to me everyday. It made me not only fell in love with the USA but also learn english way more than what my family would teach me. My biological father wasn't present in my childhood but I had a stepfather and I would always think about how similar the two looked (Shay and my dad). And I guess they were very similar because my stepfather also cheated on my mother. And I'm also the same age as the oldest son. It's crazy of how similar we are.
@@bobbieproductions4491 it's harder because we saw similarities between these people and our real family. My biological father also wasnt present in my life and I often didnt get along with my step father. So it was nice to see a father having a good relationship with his kids
Gavin definitely seems to be over it, I wonder how he feels looking back at it now too. Meanwhile Avia has her own channel now hamming it up 😂 it is cute though, I would assume it was her choice to make it.
Why do they need to speak on their experience like it’s for us to know? If they are over it or at least positive with their family why do they need to bring it up?
@@tyreek.6815 funny how a big part of this video was talking about when you're constantly infront of cameras for millions of people to see you, even at your worst moments, yet they want him to come out and open up old wounds for their amusement.
@@ishy6875 right!!!!! Their family has moved on while also dealing with being a family. The kids don’t need to do anything. That’s there own struggles and life. Just because this situation happens doesn’t mean the kids need to speak out on a dead past that they moved on from.
As an ex-mormon I just wanna say that Mormon missions are not for helping the poor. The entire point of going on a mission is to convert as many people as possible and sometimes they do "service" because it helps the cause
I believe this because the place picked was strange to me. Going to Barbados to do mission work is like going to the Midwest to do mission work. I’m not saying that poor ppl don’t exist there but none of those places are completely destitute so it has to only be converting that you’re worried about.
I’m 2 years late to the party, but thank you for saying this. The idea that there are any “poor” that need help from Mormons on my mother’s native island is a joke. They’re there to spread that comedy show of a religion they call the truth. Help the poor…. 🥴 Foolishness!
I live in the same town as the Shaytards and I see them countless of times, and you can tell that they are slowly trying to heal, and just keep to themselves and the kids are also just trying to live a “normal” life. They genuinely do seem happy whenever I see them around.
Also to note I always see Colette on her own especially with the girls and I think that’s her way of healing. Same with Shay his way of healing is snowboarding in the mountains.
i’m happy that they’re doing better. i used to love them and loved them until all of this came out. it’s been so many years and while it’s inexcusable, i’m happy that they’re healing and becoming strong again. especially for the kids
Shay made a horrible mistake but u can't say he's a horrible person bc of that mistake. the way he reacted to that mistake makes him seem like a decent person to me. y'all must be v young to be saying that.
"What are you gonna do, cancel your father?" Well, in terms of having a toxic or abusive family member in your life, it is often best to cut them out of your life or distance yourself from them. The ultimate cancellation.
@@jenna7renee cheating is the ultimate act of betrayal. It IS toxic, and it can irreparably destroy relationships and the partners sense of trust and self worth. People go to therapy after getting cheated on. You have NO respect for your partner and you’re willing to lie and go behind their back and abuse their trust so you can get your nut off. Cheaters are always toxic people in general bc they’re willing to do these things with no regard for their partner.
the statement from the child psychologist in the intro saying the kids can start their own channels and continue the cycle forever gets me every time 😭 truly terrifying
@@PrincessJax97 I don't know if I totally understand your comment, but I didn't mean anything about Kylie's daughter, just Kylie herself. She definitely grew up in the public eye, it's hard to know if she would have made many of the same choices if she'd had more privacy as a teenager.
They either really liked the name or they had a kid named him Gavin, when the other 4 were born they went with Gavin because it worked so well last time.
I hate how women allow themselves to stay in relationships with people who cheat on them. Cheating is not a mistake or an accident. Its a conscious decision and she should love and respect herself more. Stop staying for kids or to keep up the picture of a “perfect” marriage. There are genuine people in this world who will love and respect you
Get Mad why is it her responsibility to fix *his* problems 😒? Isn't it *his* job as a husband and father to stay faithful to his wife and children? Tuh
when u have a child, much less 5, & spent most of your life w someone it's not that easy to leave them. but it's easy to say u would from an outside perspective.
@@jaylacarter1694 good for her, seriously, but unfortunately not all women are that strong nor have the finances to leave. it's a very complicated situation.
Aria Nina definitely is not innocent in this. She knew he had a family and was married, as soon as he started getting sexual she should've stopped talking to him, but she didn't. She knew exactly what she was doing and I think it's stupid to call her oblivious and a victim. There both wrong
@@lynguinii I know right it infuriates me when people see some of the women as victims when they knew damn well what they were doing and didnt regret it at all like she admitted to know he had a wife and said that if she could she would hook up with him like what.
There was only one person with a spouse here and this is the one that decided to cheat. She was wrong, sure, but she didn't swore anything to his wife, he did. It's astonishing how people try to excuse an adult man as if he had no free will and was forced to do what he did. Men cannot have it both ways- either they think with their brains and are responsible for their actions or they are some sort of animal that thinks with the other head and is lead by it, but in if it's the second how can they claim they are somehow superior to women?
Lowkey sad the series is over, but this basically just shows how much people try to lie and cover up just for views, money, and fame. Edit: 9:47 I recommend trying ginger tea and adding around a spoon full of sugar and/or honey, it’s helped me with sore throats, migraines and allergies!
She could do a couples vlog series. Like CTFxC, Jesse and Jeana, Lance and Lizzy, Colleen and Joshua, etc. How having a career and vlogging (working together) every day can have a huge impact on the relationship, especially just being well known and having to have a breakup video to share with everyone.
My heart breaks for Collette. She had to leave her dream home and separate her kids from their father, all while maintaining her religious beliefs and finding her own self. Shay is fucked up. I hope she finds someone deserving of her :/
I met Shay and the kids when I was 16 or 17. I’d been a fan of there’s literally from the start and was one of their earliest subscribers. I’m talking...less than 500 subscribers and it was when Shay was mostly filming himself from his DJ job. The shaytards channel didn’t even exist. Like before we even saw the kids really. Anyways, I’m 26 now and honestly grew up watching them. It was so bizarre when I met them because I literally knew and saw these people every day, and knew them on a very personal level....but it was completely one sided. It was actually jarring meeting them, especially the kids, Brock particularly. Every single day I’d rush home and check throughout the school day to see when he was born. I watched his birth. I knew the most intimate aspects of these people’s DAILY lives...and they had no idea who I was. I felt like I knew them. I truly felt like they were like family to me. And they had...zero clue about me. Colette and Shay both acknowledged recognizing my name and I knew they were telling the truth because Colette commented on something I’d shared with them via social media and she showed genuine concern and was glad to hear everything was okay. They commented on how they always saw my comments on everything. But these people were complete strangers and it was honestly jarring because I’d grown up knowing more about them and seeing much more of their daily lives than I did most my family. I saw more of them than I did family members who lived like ten minutes away, and they lived across the country from me..It was bizarre. And I feel like had I not been a reasonable human, I can see how people could easily overstep. I saw a lot of people just run up and grab the kids. Someone out their arms out and went to take BABY Brock from their nanny at one point. And the sad part were most of them were literally adults... But they felt like they knew these people. It’s honestly a recipe for disaster..
What you just explained is called parasocial relationship, it happens often with celebrities/musicians and their fans, but the rise of youtube (and now twitch) has taken it to a whole new level and now happens much more frequently. I’m glad you were able to see the one sidedness of these type of relationships and I hope you were able to move on to a more healthier one. Take care!
Dude I used to watch them religiously in highschool. I was so envious of their family and how loving they were towards each other. Obsessed with how good they were at expressing their emotions and how open they were with each other and how much fun they had as a family. Which are things that I felt lacking in my own family. It was such an awakening to realize that they might not have been that perfect behind closed doors.
Same, I loved watching them especially watching how all the kids were treated with so much love and affection. I was so envious now I’m like yeah great .
I remember watching saying to myself I love this, I want this, I will have this one day in my life. A beautiful family. It's is now May 23rd, 2022. Three days away from my 10th wedding anniversary. And about to file for divorce. Life is a big fucking disappointment.
I truly think it starts off as just innocently wanting to document family moments for the sake of keeping them and looking back, but then they start profiting and money changes everything!
@@princessmorebucks that statement is very wrong to say because people could hear that while being abused and think that being abused is normal and not seek for help which could ruin their life
I feel so bad that the children had to see the things that were messaged. Hope that his family is good now, and I hope that shay has done what he needs to to feel better. Hope the kids are healed and good, and hope that Colleen is good.
I SWEARRRR every SINGLE family channel is Mormon!!!! Like they’re all from around Utah and end up moving somewhere. But all the family channels are Mormon it’s so weird 🥸
Ex Mormon here. Mormons are also known for performative arts, like dancing/singing, etc. Mormons also have that mommy vlogging/perfect Pinterest mom stuff on lock. And they ALSO perfected the art of the MLM hustle for stay at home moms. So, combine all the elements, it's no surprise to me lol.
@@florioerika so I worked at Starbucks and we used a milk frother but you can literally just heat it on the stove or microwave like you’d typically do with the water you use for tea!
Wow, I feel like it's the afternoon and I am sitting in Hailey's bed reading magazines while she's in front of the mirror and doing her make up while talking about some gossip at school
I thought maybe you might have talked about Myka Stauffer and her husband’s family channel because of the awful shit they pulled with their formerly adopted child. This was very informative, though, I was entirely unaware of the situation with this family. Thank you for making this series!
She’s absolutely awful. When you adopt a special needs child you are aware of how taxing it is. She is so selfish adopting him knowing the child has attachment issues. She used him for views then rehoused him when it got hard.
I obvs don’t agree with him having an affair but he was messaging very explicit stuff and her follow up on the convo is “I want your son and he’s so cute” that’s so creepy and weird considering the nature of their conversations
It's called deflecting or trying to change the subject. When a guy sends me explicit messages that I didnt ask for I'll completely avoid the explicit conversation by asking about their kids or wives. HE was thinking about sex, she was not. We talk about their kids to distract them bc surely you're not pleasuring yourself at my expense while talking about you're children. Guys don't understand how gross unsolicited sexual messaging and pictures truly is. They don't understand how uncomfortable it makes us, or they don't care, they're only thinking of themselves bc when I change the subject, the messages stop completely, until they're ready to try again.
@@jesalopez660 she said herself though that she actively participated in the sexual conversations. It wasn't unsolicited. They were both benefitting from the sexual messages. She just never showed her responses to the messages, which i guess is fine but she said herself they were both sending very sexual content to eachother
I'm very impressed by your research, editing , and personality. And to accomplish so much at such a young age! Keep up the good work and I wish you so much success in your future.
Confession: I used to watch the Shaytards all the time when I was younger, but stopped when the seemingly disappeared. At the time, I didn't know about the whole cheating scandal. Needless to say, I completely stopped watching them after learning about it. And going a bit off topic, but I noticed that so many family vloggers are Mormons. No matter how "wholesome" they try to act, there's just something so off about those channels (Like 8 Passengers). They just radiate toxicity
That is because a lot of TH-camrs are toxic naturally. It has nothing to do with their religion. There are so many good people in the religion. TH-camrs aren’t necessarily a good representation of members. Unfortunately the extreme or the loud ones out there filming get the attention and get noticed. But they don’t represent everyone.
@@souliewrld I don’t need to watch anything on it when I know so many in the religion and I live it myself. The problem, just like any group of people or religion is the people, especially the extreme or radical people or people who make poor choices. They don’t represent everyone. There are people who don’t live what the actual religion teaches. It all comes down to humans. Humans make mistakes. I don’t know why people feel they need to hold a tribunal for religions. I have seen enough TH-cam videos about the religion that has been twisted into different people’s point of view and opinion. What I have learned over the years is some don’t actually learn what it is about or what it means and get the wrong idea of what it is. Another, when people are angry at a religion and leave it, they can’t leave it alone and will attack it. They say things that aren’t true, or they never learned real truths. So many people only know the culture of the LDS religion and not so much the doctrine. Which really do not go hand in hand. Some how in some areas say like Utah, they have created a culture that doesn’t go with the teachings of the religion. What people need to understand is, the church is a global one. You will find amazing people all over the world who are LDS. Who are kind, loving people. Taking someone’s word for it that left isn’t always what you should go off of. I know who you are referencing and I have seen a bit of their stuff and guess it what, it’s strange, it weird, irreverent and does not represent what the church really is. That is my two cents.
girl you should do a video on sister cellmate next, james charles has been through so much scandals and it would be interesting to have a summary of some of the most important ones
honestly i feel sorry for religious women who stay with their cheating men because it’s “gods plan”. churches (as an example) sometimes pressure the women to stay with their husbands because “divorce is a sin” but ignore that adultery is also a sin.
They don't live together. They stay together sometimes, but they live in different houses. You can see that in the videos. 3 of their kids live With Collette and 2 with Shay.
@@moriahgracejoslin1470 plus gavin is an anti-masker and went to a massive homecoming celebration and fervently defended it in his instagram comments 😐
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The shaytards raised me. I spent my childhood hiding away from abuse and they made me feel safe. I found their channel in 2011 when I was 9. It breaks my heart that this is how things turned out
I used to watch Shaytards as a kid, I come from a really broken family and watched them, envious of a “happy family”. It pains me how much of it was a lie.
Girl I just watched all 3 episodes in one sitting. No skipping. That says a lot. You def gained a new subscriber! So articulate with your words holy crap lovedddddd this 3 part series 🤍
He had no tears when he talked about Colette leaving a year ago. I don’t know it just seems like he was hamming it up to the camera. You do a great job breaking things down and your research is impeccable.
I hate how collete and shay both talked about their relationship and him cheating as some “rough patch” they talked about how they’re struggling and how relationships are hard work ect but.. cheating isn’t just a “rough patch” cheating isn’t normal in most relationships. Cheating is a horrible way of saying “I don’t truly love you and don’t wanna be with you” I get that she loves him and loves him to much to let go but I see her trying her hardest to justify what he did as a “rough patch” and “relationships aren’t perfect”
I mean, yeah. Cheating on your partner is disgusting and shouldn't be justified. But you can't blame them for trying to stay together, that's up to them. I don't think you should say that just because of how they handled the situation.
EXACTLY they're acting like their cheating is perfectly normal, just like a little fight in a relationship. colette let him off easy. its honestly gross that shed go back to that tbh because of how disgusting shay is.
I’ve had a very strained relationship with my father most my life and there was a couple years, around age 13, that shay genuinely filled that fatherly role in my life. I watched the vlog every day and would wish he was my dad. Stopped watching when they went on their first long break and I was older. This video is rough :( when he was talking about Colette having moved out it absolutely broke my heart. I just hope they can all heal from this in anyway they can.
@@Alex-mf7cs she’s not quitting but these videos about family blogs are a small series she did that consisted of 3 different family blogs :) so she will continue making videos but this specific series dealing with family channels is over
I feel like Austin has something to learn from Shay... Like at least Shay is willing to own up and grow from his mistakes and cheating scandal unlike Austin
Eh, Shay isn't exactly "owning up" to everything. He didn't just cheat. He was an alcoholic who went on a binger on his way to rehab with no care in the world. He created such as toxic environment that his employee literally fled from Idaho. But still has the audacity to go on a twitter rampage not long ago about how trust doesn't to be earned, it's just given. "That's why it's forGIVEness".
omg, i love your content so much. it feels like a chat with a friend, when you are both preparing for a party or something and your friend is telling you an interesting detailed story BUT it is also about the best topics, like true crime or shady internet cases. thank you so much for this, your videos are literally one of the best lesuire time activities for me 🖤
when I was younger I was obsessed with watching the shaytards, only when I got older I realised how wrong it is to put your child's entire life out there like that, when the shaytards scandal happened it felt so weird knowing information that was a family issue and shouldn't be public, I do remember being sad when they announced they were taking time off, but now I'm just happy that brock & daxtons entire childhood wont be overshared quite as much as the other three.
I love that too I felt the same way as you did. I started watching when they were pregnant with Daxton and remembered when the came out with the birth vlog. I see how people like to make videos to remember their family and that is what I feel like they were trying to do. It can be unhealthy to do that to kids too because of the world but having family videos is completely different.
the trailer being released in 2013 when it wasn’t planned on being released until 2016 reminds me of how the trailer for frozen was released years before the film was released. like my cousins favorite movie is frozen and she wasn’t even born when the trailer was released
this is so sad i use to watch the shaytards all the time and i used to be so excited for their christmas vlog every year. When Shay got exposed i was heartbroken and disgusted because Collette didn’t deserve any of that, she was my favorite.
Ok but why did keemstar say “why did you do this when he has a family” why did he cheat on his wife and ruin his relationship with his children why is it her fault
@@OOOuise is she free from responsibility no, but most of the responsibility falls on him he is the one who cheated, he is the one who reached out first, he is the one who knew he had a family and made sure to sext her when his family was a asleep blame shouldn't shift to just her he was the one who chose to do this.
The Shaytards hits so close to home. I grew up watching their videos, nearly from the very beginning and after hearing about what Shay did. It absolutely destroyed me.
This might be hard, but can you do a video about how people got away with bad things because they had pretty privilege. There’s TONS of tiktokers who done a lot of things but got away with it because they’re so “cute” or they’re so “hot”.
I totally agree that pretty privilege is a huge thing... but then when you take a look at the flip side, specifically with beautiful women, it is also like a trap - think of how society treated Megan Fox! It’s like a double sided coin, it either helps you or it hurts you, you can’t just ~exist~
The shaytards were my favorite channel to watch when I was like in 7th grade so it was so shocking to see where they ended up years later bc of how they portrayed themselves on camera 😭
I watched Shay’s vlogs every single day as a kid, when one day I turned on the computer and he stopped uploading. I remember being so excited when he uploaded again. I just watched this video and I had no idea for all these years. This broke my heart. All the love I can give goes out to Colette and the kids. I hope Shay is recovering and learning from his mistakes.
@@ShamaeBallesteros every Mormon family I have met has been overly protective and definitely not an environment I would ever want a child to grow up in.
not gonna lie all this old footage brings back memories... that big black dog of theirs was malakai and eventually passed away, that was so sad man. the old days were there was so little content on TH-cam and the people didnt get payed for it was a more careless time. for someone like me growing up in a not so stable household these videos were very comforting.
i LOVED the shaytards! especially because it was just me and my mom in the house. we didn’t have big christmas like they did, big thanksgivings, family time in general so i use to live through them. i use to watch them everyday when i got home after doing my homework and eating.
I loved the Shaytards and watched them every day. When Shay was making “ Vlogumentary”, he was asking for donations from fans, in exchange for perks. I signed up for the highest tier, $500, for a phone call from Shay. I was also promised that if the movie made $ I would receive my money back. Well of course the movie came out and was bought, but Shay never called me nor did I get my $ back.
yeah, i totally get what you’re saying about ppl not understanding what they did wrong and cancel culture, but at the end of the day, rich influencers that are adults are not children. they have to take the responsibility for themselves to see how they are hurting people, and people are allowed to be hurt if it’s actions that directly affect people or what they identify with. it’s their responsibility to take feedback and use their huge platforms to at the very least not hurt people. i’m not saying that’s true in this case, this is very interpersonal drama that doesn’t really affect anyone else, but i would just say that analogy is not always accurate when referring to adults with a lot of power. great video!!!
Was here before you had a thousand subscribers and look at you now. You are going to be so big because you do research and actually care about the information that you put out.
@Dorothy Zbornak not all women have that chose tho. it’s extremely strong to be able to take yourself out of that situation but it’s also not easy for some women to leave bc they have kids that might not have the funds to leave or even it’s just bc they don’t know how. all women is situation like that are strong no matter what
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we traveled back in time and told the producers of The Truman Show that the concept of a child having their entire life recorded for the entertainment of others would become a reality for dozens of children everywhere.
I used to watch the Shaytards religiously. They were a such a beautiful family and I truly admired their devotion to their faith and loved ones. I was really sad to see everything that happened. I recently checked out their Instagram and and was even more disappointed to see the horrible all l*ves matter and tr*mp-supporting posts of the grandparents even story posts by Gavin! Needless to say, all that glitters isn’t gold 😢
@@learchipel5802 I will not respect someone’s views if their views do not respect others, ‘alm’ people and trump supporters do not respect poc and lgbtq+ so why should we be required to respect such horrible views?
Just would like to say you gained a subscriber and you talked about this situation so eloquently. I grew up in the town where Shay and Collette live so when this all happened it was a huge deal. I've never been a ShayTards fan myself (Carlie used to come into my work trying to get women to join her MLM, and they also bought the local ski hill and made the prices for lift tickets higher which sucks because we're a low income community) but I've always felt for their kids and the situation this put them and Collette in.
the thing he said about this situation being more difficult to handle in front of 5 million people when he didn’t even have to deal with it as a whole had he been a decent husband…
Great doc series! Facebook suggested, years ago, I follow ACE family and I'm not one to follow parents that promote their kids, personal life, I didn't even find it interesting, but that's just me. Can def see how the constant public eye and lack of privacy, especially for the kids, can be destructive. Seems like money is the motivator. Great job! ❤
Overall: What Shay did was wrong and disgusting. This affair went on for 3 MONTHS. There's literally no excuse as to why he kept going back to the woman and continued to cheat on his wife, the clock was ticking for him to eventually get caught and he knew that but still pursued. It was a choice , and a wrong one and I feel like he understands that now (after 3 years). As I said in the video, the family is still trying to heal from all of this (especially the kids who are getting dragged into it because their faces have on the internet since they were 4 years old). SO PLEASE don't go and send hate to the family. I hope you learned a lot during this series about the messed up things that goes on with family vlogging channels (I know I have lmao). Anyway, hope y'all enjoyed and can't wait to hang out with you and tell stories again :)
xoxo,
Hailey
You’re such a smart goddess 👏🏽🦝💗
New sub here! Love your videos! 💙
Sending bad vibes to shay and please escape vibes to collette. Get therapy vibes to the kids cause lord knows they need it.
Can you do the Labrant fam
for a future video can you do a video abt bhad bhabie?
I couldn’t imagine waking up to a camera in my face and having it follow me around EVERYDAY, I’d loose my mind. I feel bad for children who have to experience that
when i was younger, i had behavioral issues and mental health issues and i would be so upset/embarrassed when my mom told family about it. i can’t imagine how horrified i would be if it was shared on the internet for all to see 😩
Well said. You have a good sense of empathy.
@@misseselise3864 fr! I don’t have any mental issues I deal with but when my mom would tell family member my business I would be so embarrassed and mad at her. I would hate it to be on the internet for everyone. Also I wish you well with anything that you have going on 💕
True...if I ever do do a vlog which is highly unlikely, but if I do I wiling record private moments or when they literally wake up
That's all they know so they think it's normal
Just the title "Fat Dad, Fat Kid" made me feel sick. Especially given that the kid was 12. I feel like we all remember every single time we were called fat at age 12, that shit sticks with you
The word “fat” shouldn’t be seen an insult... or used as one.
:(
i remember being called fat then, and then I spent 13-23 eating only once a day or every other day in an attempt to lose weight. for reference i had a undiagnosed hormone issue so i just gained weight anyway
@@paanora440 I completely agree! The context of his videos was definitely intending it that way though, and I hope his son is doing okay based on having that public stigma attached to him
@@tomuchcamoflauge big mood 🙁
I hope you're recovering well now 💜
Personally I wasn't called 'fat' I was called 'twig' 'stick' and 'barbie' and despite telling people I don't like these nicknames, the nicknames continued. They would do that wrist thing and say "Omg you're so skinny, you're like barbie" and I'd just be there like "yeah I know, now stop mentioning it"
shay "we have really hard days" "we failed", stop saying "we" YOU CHEATED not your wife
EXACTLY NO SHIT YOURE THE ONE THAT FUCKING CHEATED POOR GIRL WAS SO LOST AND IT WAS HIS FUCKING FAULT THE WHOLE TIME??? like i know a marriage is a mutual relationship like both parties have responsibility but he’s the one that fucked up bro and if i were their kids i would never forgive my father if he cheated on my mom
i thought the same thing
THANK YOUUUUU
I’ve noticed this trend on social media with couples lately. “We are dilated 7 meters”; “We are having contractions”; “We are struggling and working towards reconciliation” - Um, what? Can WE not?
@Izarim Preach.
I think that he got upset when Nina mentioned his kid because he had only associated Nina with the sexual nature of their relationship and she “ruined his fantasy” bringing him back to his reality of being a father with a WIFE. That’s my pop psychology for today. I wonder if they would have continued if she never mentioned the kids.
100% my same thought
wow this was an amazing description
Perfectly put!!!
well that and also what she said WAS weird. she literally said, while knowing flirting with a married man, “give me your son.” like yea she’s just at fault as he is
@@jillianc7485 thank you! She didn't just say he was cute. He was wrong for cheating, and perhaps he was also genuinely concerned for his baby's safety. If anyone I was dating asked to take my kid, I would also cut that person out of my life. They're probably joking, but its not worth the risk.
Colette's response to the cheating was so heartbreaking. When she came back and talked about how she had accepted that her dream had died and that she had to grow up and be realistic.
She handled the situation with so much grace it was insane.
I felt so horrible for her bc shes so sweet. I love Colette.
It's sad because nina isn't the only one who put up with Shays disgusting behavior. A woman by the name of Danna Richards has alluded to the fact that shay sexually assaulted her. I don't remember much because it was a while ago but she has videos on her TH-cam channel and even wrote a song about it. th-cam.com/video/tfBkzmZReBc/w-d-xo.html
@@minniem4142 was she the woman Avis wrote a song with? Or the woman that used to babysit for them?
Yeah I love that queen smh. She is too pure for this bs
HOLD UP. This channel isn’t even a year old and we’re getting this quality
IKR!! You can tell that she is really serious about making content and being a content creator. She deserves so much love. :3
I thought this was a 3 yr old channel but I saw it wasn’t even 7 months old
And I was so shocked
Exactly😭!!!
@Washington05 B she’s saying it’s good
idk how u bring the facts, the jokes, AND the looks.... but u do
Frrrr, all that he made her quickly become on of my faves to watch
she absolutely KILLED this look 👀
It's true
HEY SYD LMAO
AHHH SYDDDD
black mirror should do an episode about family vlogging channels it would be an interesting episode since everything is online and completely open
OMG YESS
They could highlight how families keep trying to maintain a “perfect family” visage, and it’s actually harming the kids/family that isn’t doing the physical vlogging. It could be turned into a sort of competition in which families enter to win some recognition (money, game, or something else) by showing the perfect lives of the family.
For example, the 8 passengers channel could be in an episode where the mom, Ruby, enters into an online competition in which the winner gets some prize. So she starts following the competition rules (vlogging everyday, minimum time limits, interesting content, etc.) only to realize that as more and more people are eliminated and more people start watching, that it’s harder to keep audiences watching. So she starts to up the ante by doing crazier and borderline sadistic pranks/punishments to her kids.
In the end, she does something so awful that either 1) police take custody of her kids/divorced by her husband or 2) one of her kids ends up getting seriously injured and/or killed and she ends up losing custody this way.
Ruby ends up winning the competition. But she also lost her family doing so.
@@madisonf7767 ayo thats smart asf
@@madisonf7767 Black mirror, run this woman a check
@@madisonf7767 Sis they need you cause this was like omg 😳
My favorite part about this whole series is the dramatic intro every time
Same here! I’ve loved watching it each time
Warranted
Lmao same it’s iconic
I knowwwww!! It gets me all pumped 😂 and I don’t even watch these family channels lol
I was just thinking about that and saw your comment on the top😂❤️
The way this man was writing a whole wattpad story in her dms is killing me 💀
FR i screamed
literally LMAOOO
PLSSS
Why do men
@@lovelyselly periodt
The vibe of your room, no distracting music, casually getting ready, while exposing people
*im obsessed*
and she barely puts ads too!
Girls are weird lol. I'll never understand them
@@kiwikiwi2483 if you don’t like it click off it’s not that hard😐
@@yasyays8460 You seem offended, over what though? You worry about your problems and I'll worry about mine 🤷🏾♂️😂
@Alisha Dorleans Is there a rule somewhere that states I have to be asked to speak on something? Where I live, we have something called the first amendment. And I'm pretty sure nothing in the TH-cam TOS doesn't require anyone to be asked to say something before they do. If something changes though please, let me know 😂
“And they were Mormons!”
“Oh my gosh they were Mormons.”
BABAHAHAH I CANNOT
Omg this comment is amazing lmao 🤣
as a former Mormon, this made me LOL
And nobody was surprised
@Mind ur business Yeah, my folks are Mormon so I’m pretty protective of them, but also if you’re calling me a Mormonphobe I should clarify that this is a reference to a vine where the original goes:
“AND they were roommates!”
“Oh my god, they were roommates.”
th-cam.com/video/S0iM3bkkpbI/w-d-xo.html
This is the vine
But also saying someone is Mormon is not an insult.
the fact that i was OBSESSED with this family is actually really sad
wow really? this is my first time hearing about them
Same as me:/
he was my youtube dad and then hearing that he cheated really did break my heart cos he filled that missing dad spot 😃💔
Same I watch their channel religiously☹️
fr same they were a big part of my childhood
As someone who used to watch the Shaytards religiously in 07-11 (when I was a teenager), I do feel you skipped over the fact that the family started out as struggling financially. They were this kind of rags to riches story, that we could see every step of their journey since they had daily vlogs. While I don't watch family vlogs now, I feel like that was what made people like myself such big fans back then. They were real, and felt like our own family. I think that's important to note. They're very different than Influencer families are now, and if you watched them back then in real time you would know what I was talking about. (Obviosuly that eventually changed, and you covered their downfall very well)
I've never watched them so thank you for sharing that bit of info
I watched them when I was a teenager too. They were the only family vlogging channel I watched and I felt like I was part of their family, because I have a big family as well and they had a "normal" Life like us. When the scandal happened I felt so sad and disgusted with Shay that I could never watch them again or any other family channel.
It also scared me to think that something like that could happen to me. Because they looked so happy and nice.. And to have a family and then your husband does that. Must be hard to leave him :(
That is so true. As a brazilian child that was raised with an american culture (my parents and siblings lived in the USA for years but I have never been there) watching the Shaytards family was very nice and showed a realistic family in the USA that my mother would talk about it to me everyday. It made me not only fell in love with the USA but also learn english way more than what my family would teach me. My biological father wasn't present in my childhood but I had a stepfather and I would always think about how similar the two looked (Shay and my dad). And I guess they were very similar because my stepfather also cheated on my mother. And I'm also the same age as the oldest son. It's crazy of how similar we are.
@@bobbieproductions4491 it's harder because we saw similarities between these people and our real family. My biological father also wasnt present in my life and I often didnt get along with my step father. So it was nice to see a father having a good relationship with his kids
I agree
Gavin will be 18 this year. I wonder if they’ll be the first family vlog kids to truly speak out about their expereience
Really hope so
Gavin definitely seems to be over it, I wonder how he feels looking back at it now too. Meanwhile Avia has her own channel now hamming it up 😂 it is cute though, I would assume it was her choice to make it.
Why do they need to speak on their experience like it’s for us to know? If they are over it or at least positive with their family why do they need to bring it up?
@@tyreek.6815 funny how a big part of this video was talking about when you're constantly infront of cameras for millions of people to see you, even at your worst moments, yet they want him to come out and open up old wounds for their amusement.
@@ishy6875 right!!!!! Their family has moved on while also dealing with being a family. The kids don’t need to do anything. That’s there own struggles and life. Just because this situation happens doesn’t mean the kids need to speak out on a dead past that they moved on from.
As an ex-mormon I just wanna say that Mormon missions are not for helping the poor. The entire point of going on a mission is to convert as many people as possible and sometimes they do "service" because it helps the cause
I'm sorry you feel that way
Dedicating and sacrificing your life to save other souls is a service.
@@saradenhalter1141We are sorry you are brainwashed
I believe this because the place picked was strange to me. Going to Barbados to do mission work is like going to the Midwest to do mission work. I’m not saying that poor ppl don’t exist there but none of those places are completely destitute so it has to only be converting that you’re worried about.
I’m 2 years late to the party, but thank you for saying this. The idea that there are any “poor” that need help from Mormons on my mother’s native island is a joke. They’re there to spread that comedy show of a religion they call the truth. Help the poor…. 🥴 Foolishness!
I live in the same town as the Shaytards and I see them countless of times, and you can tell that they are slowly trying to heal, and just keep to themselves and the kids are also just trying to live a “normal” life. They genuinely do seem happy whenever I see them around.
Also to note I always see Colette on her own especially with the girls and I think that’s her way of healing. Same with Shay his way of healing is snowboarding in the mountains.
why do i feel bad for all of themmmmm
this comment deserves more likes D:
@@gabrielleodell5929 the children yes but. Who knows maybe they are decent parents
i’m happy that they’re doing better. i used to love them and loved them until all of this came out. it’s been so many years and while it’s inexcusable, i’m happy that they’re healing and becoming strong again. especially for the kids
Collette deserves a good man. I mean I know we only see what's on camera, but she seems like an angel on earth
and Shay is not a good man ?
@@getmad3013 he literally cheated on her soooo...no? He’s not?
@@getmad3013 WHAT?! No he is not a good man.
@@getmad3013 did you miss the part where he cheated on his wife like several times? Lol no he is not a good man
Shay made a horrible mistake but u can't say he's a horrible person bc of that mistake. the way he reacted to that mistake makes him seem like a decent person to me. y'all must be v young to be saying that.
He wrote an entire watt pad story in her DMS and I CANT BREATHE WTFFF
hey! dont mock George floyd ok?!
@@saraberisha6773 I- what 😀
@@saraberisha6773 what? She never said anything about that
@@saraberisha6773 you gonna respond or 🧍🏽♀️
@@kaiotes1344 yes dont mock america’s national hero!
"What are you gonna do, cancel your father?" Well, in terms of having a toxic or abusive family member in your life, it is often best to cut them out of your life or distance yourself from them. The ultimate cancellation.
Trueeeeee
but cheating ≠ toxic and abusive person
i know many people think so, but it truly doesn’t.
@@jenna7renee so stabbing your partner in the back isn't toxic?
@@jenna7renee cheating is the ultimate act of betrayal. It IS toxic, and it can irreparably destroy relationships and the partners sense of trust and self worth. People go to therapy after getting cheated on. You have NO respect for your partner and you’re willing to lie and go behind their back and abuse their trust so you can get your nut off. Cheaters are always toxic people in general bc they’re willing to do these things with no regard for their partner.
while cheating is shitty, that doesn’t mean he was treating his children bad.
the statement from the child psychologist in the intro saying the kids can start their own channels and continue the cycle forever gets me every time 😭 truly terrifying
I feel like that's what we've seen with Kylie Jenner, tbh.
@@XuiLeeEv that's 2 generations lmao chill we haven't seen anything yet, do u know how many cousins her daughter has?
@@PrincessJax97 I don't know if I totally understand your comment, but I didn't mean anything about Kylie's daughter, just Kylie herself. She definitely grew up in the public eye, it's hard to know if she would have made many of the same choices if she'd had more privacy as a teenager.
Well of course, thats what they learn, at least they decide to stop the genarational trauma, that wont stop ever
@@XuiLeeEv ah i misunderstood your comment as an attack saying that kylie was breeding a new generation on purpose
oh queen posted, time to grab the popcorn
Yepp
@LEXI CAVALLO 👀 pass me some of that-
ohhh great idea imma go make some
edit: i have it AND some pepsi with it
edit2: ugh i forgot i dont like pepsi why am i like this
@LEXI CAVALLO
🪂
🕳
when the only popcorn u have is disgusting 🖐️😭
Collette is a literal goddess in and out. She deserves the universe!
"First of five children named Gavin" - imagine having 5 kids called Gavin.
this made me laugh out loud
They either really liked the name or they had a kid named him Gavin, when the other 4 were born they went with Gavin because it worked so well last time.
“Hey Gavin 3 please put your shoes on!”
They could only afford one name.
I mean. George Foreman named all five sons George. 😂
I hate how women allow themselves to stay in relationships with people who cheat on them. Cheating is not a mistake or an accident. Its a conscious decision and she should love and respect herself more. Stop staying for kids or to keep up the picture of a “perfect” marriage. There are genuine people in this world who will love and respect you
Get Mad why is it her responsibility to fix *his* problems 😒? Isn't it *his* job as a husband and father to stay faithful to his wife and children? Tuh
when u have a child, much less 5, & spent most of your life w someone it's not that easy to leave them. but it's easy to say u would from an outside perspective.
I bet you I'll leave...kids and all. My mom did it with 6 🤷🏿♀️
@@jaylacarter1694 good for her, seriously, but unfortunately not all women are that strong nor have the finances to leave. it's a very complicated situation.
Exactly
I feel awful for that kid who wasn't even a full hour old and already had a camera in his face. I cant imagine growing up like that😬
To be fair, most newborns are endlessly filmed and have their pictures taken. I get your point tho lol
Aria Nina definitely is not innocent in this. She knew he had a family and was married, as soon as he started getting sexual she should've stopped talking to him, but she didn't. She knew exactly what she was doing and I think it's stupid to call her oblivious and a victim. There both wrong
@@lynguinii I know right it infuriates me when people see some of the women as victims when they knew damn well what they were doing and didnt regret it at all like she admitted to know he had a wife and said that if she could she would hook up with him like what.
She’s not innocent but he’s the one who should be loyal to his wife. She doesn’t know the wife. She’s single
If she didn’t talk to him he’d just find someone else. It wouldn’t have stopped it from happening
@@laylajohnson8899and maybe she should learn to not go after married people
There was only one person with a spouse here and this is the one that decided to cheat. She was wrong, sure, but she didn't swore anything to his wife, he did. It's astonishing how people try to excuse an adult man as if he had no free will and was forced to do what he did. Men cannot have it both ways- either they think with their brains and are responsible for their actions or they are some sort of animal that thinks with the other head and is lead by it, but in if it's the second how can they claim they are somehow superior to women?
why there are so many families like this, will never fail to confuzzle me
i KNOOOOO IT MAKES NO SENSEEE (hehe also love how u said confuzzle lol i say that sometimes too)
Confound, befuddle.
Lowkey sad the series is over, but this basically just shows how much people try to lie and cover up just for views, money, and fame.
Edit: 9:47 I recommend trying ginger tea and adding around a spoon full of sugar and/or honey, it’s helped me with sore throats, migraines and allergies!
She could do a couples vlog series. Like CTFxC, Jesse and Jeana, Lance and Lizzy, Colleen and Joshua, etc. How having a career and vlogging (working together) every day can have a huge impact on the relationship, especially just being well known and having to have a breakup video to share with everyone.
@@ad_kk16 holy shizz that’s actually a good idea! I would definitely look forward to seeing a series like that
Sameeeee, we defo need more series like these, even if it means waiting a bit longer, i know it will be worth it!!
to ur edit it’s better to add honey instead of sugar but if u prefer sugar that’s ok just letting u kno!
@@elisabef local raw honey.
My heart breaks for Collette. She had to leave her dream home and separate her kids from their father, all while maintaining her religious beliefs and finding her own self. Shay is fucked up. I hope she finds someone deserving of her :/
I met Shay and the kids when I was 16 or 17. I’d been a fan of there’s literally from the start and was one of their earliest subscribers. I’m talking...less than 500 subscribers and it was when Shay was mostly filming himself from his DJ job. The shaytards channel didn’t even exist. Like before we even saw the kids really. Anyways, I’m 26 now and honestly grew up watching them. It was so bizarre when I met them because I literally knew and saw these people every day, and knew them on a very personal level....but it was completely one sided. It was actually jarring meeting them, especially the kids, Brock particularly. Every single day I’d rush home and check throughout the school day to see when he was born. I watched his birth. I knew the most intimate aspects of these people’s DAILY lives...and they had no idea who I was. I felt like I knew them. I truly felt like they were like family to me. And they had...zero clue about me. Colette and Shay both acknowledged recognizing my name and I knew they were telling the truth because Colette commented on something I’d shared with them via social media and she showed genuine concern and was glad to hear everything was okay. They commented on how they always saw my comments on everything. But these people were complete strangers and it was honestly jarring because I’d grown up knowing more about them and seeing much more of their daily lives than I did most my family. I saw more of them than I did family members who lived like ten minutes away, and they lived across the country from me..It was bizarre. And I feel like had I not been a reasonable human, I can see how people could easily overstep. I saw a lot of people just run up and grab the kids. Someone out their arms out and went to take BABY Brock from their nanny at one point. And the sad part were most of them were literally adults... But they felt like they knew these people. It’s honestly a recipe for disaster..
What you just explained is called parasocial relationship, it happens often with celebrities/musicians and their fans, but the rise of youtube (and now twitch) has taken it to a whole new level and now happens much more frequently. I’m glad you were able to see the one sidedness of these type of relationships and I hope you were able to move on to a more healthier one. Take care!
That certainly an interesting dynamic you grew up in.
You are really really creepy.
@@rosequartz3515 Yikes agreed
@@rosequartz3515 how
Dude I used to watch them religiously in highschool. I was so envious of their family and how loving they were towards each other. Obsessed with how good they were at expressing their emotions and how open they were with each other and how much fun they had as a family. Which are things that I felt lacking in my own family. It was such an awakening to realize that they might not have been that perfect behind closed doors.
Same, I loved watching them especially watching how all the kids were treated with so much love and affection. I was so envious now I’m like yeah great .
I remember watching saying to myself I love this, I want this, I will have this one day in my life. A beautiful family. It's is now May 23rd, 2022. Three days away from my 10th wedding anniversary. And about to file for divorce. Life is a big fucking disappointment.
I’ll never understand why some parents feel the need to broadcast all of their child’s every moment on TH-cam.
I truly think it starts off as just innocently wanting to document family moments for the sake of keeping them and looking back, but then they start profiting and money changes everything!
fr tho. they always end up wanting to profit off of their children even when they don’t always want to be filmed, at their most vulnerable too
Yup
@@00imz yup
i used to idolize them as a little kid because i came from a broken home. i wanted a family like theirs.
🥺 I feel this... I feel like a lot of children do this.
One good thing out of this is that now you see that every family has problems. You’re not from a broken home, you’re from a normal home 💜
@@princessmorebucks well this sentence could actually be damaging in a way but sure
@@princessmorebucks that statement is very wrong to say because people could hear that while being abused and think that being abused is normal and not seek for help which could ruin their life
You’ll have to make your own! 🥰
I feel so bad that the children had to see the things that were messaged. Hope that his family is good now, and I hope that shay has done what he needs to to feel better. Hope the kids are healed and good, and hope that Colleen is good.
I SWEARRRR every SINGLE family channel is Mormon!!!! Like they’re all from around Utah and end up moving somewhere. But all the family channels are Mormon it’s so weird 🥸
Yeah
Literally 😳😳😳😳
yeah fr what is with that
Ex Mormon here. Mormons are also known for performative arts, like dancing/singing, etc. Mormons also have that mommy vlogging/perfect Pinterest mom stuff on lock. And they ALSO perfected the art of the MLM hustle for stay at home moms.
So, combine all the elements, it's no surprise to me lol.
OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT
use steamed lemonade instead of water for your fruity teas!
ooo interesting! i will try that. is there a particular way to steam the lemonade or am i just reading into it too much?
@@florioerika so I worked at Starbucks and we used a milk frother but you can literally just heat it on the stove or microwave like you’d typically do with the water you use for tea!
@@Morganne how should I steam it?
Is the lemonade sweetened beforehand? Like can I do it with the lemonade in the jug you can buy at the store or is it better to use home made lemonade
@@Morganne oh okay! thank you so much 💜💜💜
Wow, I feel like it's the afternoon and I am sitting in Hailey's bed reading magazines while she's in front of the mirror and doing her make up while talking about some gossip at school
omg thats such a cute scenario 😭
THIS
@@HaileyElizabethh Yah, like I'm hanging out with you in your house after school 😁
Not Shay sending a whole-ass novel and Nina not replying so he goes “sO AnYwAyS” and she finally throws him a “so naughty”
I thought maybe you might have talked about Myka Stauffer and her husband’s family channel because of the awful shit they pulled with their formerly adopted child. This was very informative, though, I was entirely unaware of the situation with this family. Thank you for making this series!
They adopted another child? Or did the adopted child get renamed?
She’s absolutely awful. When you adopt a special needs child you are aware of how taxing it is. She is so selfish adopting him knowing the child has attachment issues. She used him for views then rehoused him when it got hard.
@UC3PEjLWT_ZiPKAaDe4rsAGw I remember the Myka Stauffer situation, but the adopted son's name wasn't Luke afaik.
omg yes i requested this in her last video as well but i don't think she saw it. i really want her to cover this!
myka needs her own series
Bestie I’m obsessed with your vibe and professionalism
I obvs don’t agree with him having an affair but he was messaging very explicit stuff and her follow up on the convo is “I want your son and he’s so cute” that’s so creepy and weird considering the nature of their conversations
Ye, they were both creeps
okay literally because why would she say that
no fr cause idk the way she said it was kinda creepy ngl
It's called deflecting or trying to change the subject. When a guy sends me explicit messages that I didnt ask for I'll completely avoid the explicit conversation by asking about their kids or wives. HE was thinking about sex, she was not. We talk about their kids to distract them bc surely you're not pleasuring yourself at my expense while talking about you're children. Guys don't understand how gross unsolicited sexual messaging and pictures truly is. They don't understand how uncomfortable it makes us, or they don't care, they're only thinking of themselves bc when I change the subject, the messages stop completely, until they're ready to try again.
@@jesalopez660 she said herself though that she actively participated in the sexual conversations. It wasn't unsolicited. They were both benefitting from the sexual messages. She just never showed her responses to the messages, which i guess is fine but she said herself they were both sending very sexual content to eachother
I'm very impressed by your research, editing , and personality. And to accomplish so much at such a young age! Keep up the good work and I wish you so much success in your future.
hailey, you could literally talk about taco bell paper napkins for 30 minutes and i'd listen to you intently
This! 😆
Facts😂
Fr
i’ve been waitin for this one...
turn it up 😃
@qianana omg thank you bestie 😃🤍
@@romrom347 HAHAHAH THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
Hailey always eats up these deep dives and leaves no crumbs
Every time 👏🏻
Stop talking like this.
@@AddBowIfGirl They can talk how they want to.
@@imthatfoodie3036
If course. But it’s annoying when nonblack people commandeer black slang.
@@AddBowIfGirl the channel is faceless
i agree with your point but you don’t know if they are or not
Confession: I used to watch the Shaytards all the time when I was younger, but stopped when the seemingly disappeared. At the time, I didn't know about the whole cheating scandal. Needless to say, I completely stopped watching them after learning about it.
And going a bit off topic, but I noticed that so many family vloggers are Mormons. No matter how "wholesome" they try to act, there's just something so off about those channels (Like 8 Passengers). They just radiate toxicity
That is because a lot of TH-camrs are toxic naturally. It has nothing to do with their religion. There are so many good people in the religion. TH-camrs aren’t necessarily a good representation of members. Unfortunately the extreme or the loud ones out there filming get the attention and get noticed. But they don’t represent everyone.
@@kjeracarroll450 there are definitely issues with the mormon religion. i recommend you to watch jordan & mckay
@@souliewrld I don’t need to watch anything on it when I know so many in the religion and I live it myself. The problem, just like any group of people or religion is the people, especially the extreme or radical people or people who make poor choices. They don’t represent everyone. There are people who don’t live what the actual religion teaches. It all comes down to humans. Humans make mistakes. I don’t know why people feel they need to hold a tribunal for religions. I have seen enough TH-cam videos about the religion that has been twisted into different people’s point of view and opinion. What I have learned over the years is some don’t actually learn what it is about or what it means and get the wrong idea of what it is. Another, when people are angry at a religion and leave it, they can’t leave it alone and will attack it. They say things that aren’t true, or they never learned real truths. So many people only know the culture of the LDS religion and not so much the doctrine. Which really do not go hand in hand. Some how in some areas say like Utah, they have created a culture that doesn’t go with the teachings of the religion. What people need to understand is, the church is a global one. You will find amazing people all over the world who are LDS. Who are kind, loving people. Taking someone’s word for it that left isn’t always what you should go off of. I know who you are referencing and I have seen a bit of their stuff and guess it what, it’s strange, it weird, irreverent and does not represent what the church really is. That is my two cents.
There's definitely racist and sexist ideology in Mormon religion though @@kjeracarroll450
girl you should do a video on sister cellmate next, james charles has been through so much scandals and it would be interesting to have a summary of some of the most important ones
i think she might wait for more information
@@CelebrimborrAncalime yeah probably
Sister cellmate! I'm dying lol
not sister cellmate! LMFAO
not "sister cellmate" HDJDKSL 😭
honestly i feel sorry for religious women who stay with their cheating men because it’s “gods plan”. churches (as an example) sometimes pressure the women to stay with their husbands because “divorce is a sin” but ignore that adultery is also a sin.
They don't live together. They stay together sometimes, but they live in different houses. You can see that in the videos. 3 of their kids live With Collette and 2 with Shay.
@@moriahgracejoslin1470 they give me trump vibes 🙄👋 I don’t feel bad she got cheated on
@@Anitamustdie shay is following one of the trump kids so ya they 💯 are
@@moriahgracejoslin1470 how do you know? Is it in a video?
@@moriahgracejoslin1470 plus gavin is an anti-masker and went to a massive homecoming celebration and fervently defended it in his instagram comments 😐
@@Anitamustdie Gavin is a big supporter for trump from what I saw posted on his Instagram story
TEA SUGGESTION :
9:45
(I am an Indian 🇮🇳 so we do take tea, chai, very seriously)
Boil little more than a cup of water on your stove in a saucepan
Add about two tsp of Darjeeling tea leaves or brook bond tea (not herbal added one just simple plain chai patti)
and crushed ginger (little smaller than half inch)
in cup of water
let it boil for 5 mins to 10 mins then
Sugar (to taste)
Little milk (don't add too much, just personal preference)
About a tablespoon or two maybe.
Ginger will help your throat a lot.
It's a regular practice in our Indian household
Especially in winters
You can add some crushed tulsi leaves (2-3) too
Amazing health benefits
I am sorry I suck at measurements
I usually do it by 'andaaza' umm idea of doing it because of regular practice.
But it taste really good
Hope you enjoy it.
All the best for your channel :)
theres so much other seeds and things that go into chai…just the teabag is disgusting
@@moma3587 we don't use tea bags in India that much
i love how you include their ✨zodiac signs✨ 😂😂
on that note, how is Shay pisces if he was born in early May? wouldn't that make him taurus?
@@ozili5019 i read another comment and she said that she did mess up!
He is born March 5th which would make him a Pisces. She might of said the wrong month
HAHAHHA YES
I hate it :D
The shaytards raised me. I spent my childhood hiding away from abuse and they made me feel safe. I found their channel in 2011 when I was 9. It breaks my heart that this is how things turned out
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are having a better life now. x
I used to watch Shaytards as a kid, I come from a really broken family and watched them, envious of a “happy family”. It pains me how much of it was a lie.
i hope youre doing ok now!
Same. I wanted to be like them so bad. I watched their channel religiously and I’m so sad they went downhill:(
@@livb1657 thank you for such a lovely message dear! I’m doing okay as I can right now 💓
@@warsscarsplanetmars of course! im glad, well wishes :) 💕
same.
Girl I just watched all 3 episodes in one sitting. No skipping. That says a lot. You def gained a new subscriber! So articulate with your words holy crap lovedddddd this 3 part series 🤍
“We are not giving up on our relationship” you mean SHE isn’t 🤨 you already gave up lmao
Hahahah true!
😭😭
Fr😭😭
*sips tea*
He had no tears when he talked about Colette leaving a year ago. I don’t know it just seems like he was hamming it up to the camera. You do a great job breaking things down and your research is impeccable.
Yes!! He was trying so hard to push out tears
I was waiting to see some type of moisture in his eyes...they didn't even get misty LOL
I hate how collete and shay both talked about their relationship and him cheating as some “rough patch” they talked about how they’re struggling and how relationships are hard work ect but.. cheating isn’t just a “rough patch” cheating isn’t normal in most relationships. Cheating is a horrible way of saying “I don’t truly love you and don’t wanna be with you” I get that she loves him and loves him to much to let go but I see her trying her hardest to justify what he did as a “rough patch” and “relationships aren’t perfect”
I agree relationships aren’t perfect but cheating is not a mistake and not okay.
I mean, yeah. Cheating on your partner is disgusting and shouldn't be justified. But you can't blame them for trying to stay together, that's up to them. I don't think you should say that just because of how they handled the situation.
EXACTLY they're acting like their cheating is perfectly normal, just like a little fight in a relationship. colette let him off easy. its honestly gross that shed go back to that tbh because of how disgusting shay is.
YUP cheating is disgusting and honestly anyone who does it literally can die
@@thirzagarcia6936 I’m not blaming them. I’m just saying it’s wrong how they’re trying to justify it and trying to act like it’s normal
I’ve had a very strained relationship with my father most my life and there was a couple years, around age 13, that shay genuinely filled that fatherly role in my life. I watched the vlog every day and would wish he was my dad. Stopped watching when they went on their first long break and I was older.
This video is rough :( when he was talking about Colette having moved out it absolutely broke my heart. I just hope they can all heal from this in anyway they can.
Same, I would watch them while my mom and dad would argue to distract myself and wish I was apart of that family.
Wish she could continue this series and discuss more channels
she quiting?
@@Alex-mf7cs she’s not quitting but these videos about family blogs are a small series she did that consisted of 3 different family blogs :) so she will continue making videos but this specific series dealing with family channels is over
No
yes
I feel like Austin has something to learn from Shay... Like at least Shay is willing to own up and grow from his mistakes and cheating scandal unlike Austin
he not cheating, their relationship is fake
@@saraha.1336 how do you know that
@Aaralyn * LMAOOOO
Eh, Shay isn't exactly "owning up" to everything. He didn't just cheat. He was an alcoholic who went on a binger on his way to rehab with no care in the world. He created such as toxic environment that his employee literally fled from Idaho. But still has the audacity to go on a twitter rampage not long ago about how trust doesn't to be earned, it's just given. "That's why it's forGIVEness".
@@briannab7293 I thought he did cheat? Im confused.
Wising everyone who reads this much abundance and love! Still can’t get over the intro ! 😊
Sending those vibes back to you 😍
@@heatherhaynes1988 thank you so much!!
Thank you the same to you
It’s so dramatic I love it
@@georgie_liz yes hahaha !
omg, i love your content so much. it feels like a chat with a friend, when you are both preparing for a party or something and your friend is telling you an interesting detailed story BUT it is also about the best topics, like true crime or shady internet cases. thank you so much for this, your videos are literally one of the best lesuire time activities for me 🖤
when I was younger I was obsessed with watching the shaytards,
only when I got older I realised how wrong it is to put your child's entire life out there like that, when the shaytards scandal happened it felt so weird knowing information that was a family issue and shouldn't be public, I do remember being sad when they announced they were taking time off, but now I'm just happy that brock & daxtons entire childhood wont be overshared quite as much as the other three.
I love that too I felt the same way as you did. I started watching when they were pregnant with Daxton and remembered when the came out with the birth vlog. I see how people like to make videos to remember their family and that is what I feel like they were trying to do. It can be unhealthy to do that to kids too because of the world but having family videos is completely different.
i find it funny that he basically wrote a smut fanfic about himself when he was talking to nina
I was second hand embarrassed for him. Like CRINGE.....🤢
the trailer being released in 2013 when it wasn’t planned on being released until 2016 reminds me of how the trailer for frozen was released years before the film was released. like my cousins favorite movie is frozen and she wasn’t even born when the trailer was released
Hey, I'm a Pisces and May 5th is considered to be a Taurean. I'm so sorry to be that person but we don't claim him, literally! 😭
lmao yeah she meant march 5th 😭
@@lolznono omg so he is a Pisces !
@@divyawashere yep!
#that part 😂 ♓️
this is so sad i use to watch the shaytards all the time and i used to be so excited for their christmas vlog every year. When Shay got exposed i was heartbroken and disgusted because Collette didn’t deserve any of that, she was my favorite.
it's so sad what happened cause it literally ruined most most of my childhood
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i love your pfp
FRR LMAO
Exactly, finally something to watch.
Ps. Love your profile picture!
@@christi.. THANK uu, bestiee💘💘💘 i always love when ppl say that🥺
@@doublespecs THANK U💞
Ok but why did keemstar say “why did you do this when he has a family” why did he cheat on his wife and ruin his relationship with his children why is it her fault
it takes two to tango - would you start/continue a relationship with someone if you knew they had a family or were married? I fucking wouldn't
@@OOOuise is she free from responsibility no, but most of the responsibility falls on him he is the one who cheated, he is the one who reached out first, he is the one who knew he had a family and made sure to sext her when his family was a asleep blame shouldn't shift to just her he was the one who chose to do this.
cause keemstar has rocks for brains
she said she loved the family and the vlogs. then she contributed to ruining their entire family.
She knew he was married and personally, if you know someone is married and you still talk to them, you are just as guilty.
Off topic, but can I just say: I LOVE that you always include people’s zodiac signs.
Yeah, but isn't the first one she mentioned wrong? People born in early May are Tauruses
I actually get extremely annoyed when ppl do that
@@user-ss1wy3nj7l Yep lol I had to pause the video and comment about it
@@lornajean7286 exactly
@@user-ss1wy3nj7l Yeah I noticed that too.
WHEN I HEARD IT WAS 3 MONTHS I THOUGHT IT WASNT EVEN THAT BAD BC MY DAD CHEATED FOR SEVEN YEARS 😭😭😭 THIS IS AWKWARD
Did your mom know at any point?
Damn I’m sorry
@@TaymaShine obv she did! She just "stayed for the sake of the kid"
@@ruthlessog9098 she might have found out after 7 years u don’t know that
@@TaymaShine dude are you that dull? No, the mom knew but stayed
girl I literally found you two hours ago I've been binge watching your videos the entire time because the quality is *chefs kiss*
Me too, but I was just yesterday.
The way this family practically raised me in elementary school, but little did younger me know all the mess that went down behind the scenes
The Shaytards hits so close to home. I grew up watching their videos, nearly from the very beginning and after hearing about what Shay did. It absolutely destroyed me.
This might be hard, but can you do a video about how people got away with bad things because they had pretty privilege. There’s TONS of tiktokers who done a lot of things but got away with it because they’re so “cute” or they’re so “hot”.
vouch
The halo effect and pretty privilege are real and we just ignore it because uwu hot person do no wrong
I totally agree that pretty privilege is a huge thing... but then when you take a look at the flip side, specifically with beautiful women, it is also like a trap - think of how society treated Megan Fox! It’s like a double sided coin, it either helps you or it hurts you, you can’t just ~exist~
@@thisisafirstnamethisisalas97 What’s the halo effect? I’ve never heard of that
@@mollylamb7379 yeah but the way Megan fox was treated would not have happened if she was a man so the flip side is only true to an extent
The shaytards were my favorite channel to watch when I was like in 7th grade so it was so shocking to see where they ended up years later bc of how they portrayed themselves on camera 😭
Same!! When I was little I loved their channel so much but when I found out that shay cheated I was so devastated
I really thought as a child this was the best family 😖
Same I was obsessed with their channel for years
frr😭 like i loved them so much especially avia
When I was younger I really like this family but I stop watching it
Literally the way that i cried in 5th grade over daxtons birth
@@ms.unknown5665 she has her own channel now lol
I watched Shay’s vlogs every single day as a kid, when one day I turned on the computer and he stopped uploading. I remember being so excited when he uploaded again. I just watched this video and I had no idea for all these years. This broke my heart. All the love I can give goes out to Colette and the kids. I hope Shay is recovering and learning from his mistakes.
I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE- TURN IT UP!!
As soon as I heard 'mormon' I knew this was gonna be messyyyy tea
Quite the generalization there.
Oh god Yes, I swear almost every Mormon family I have ever known has been suuuuuuuuuper messed up.
@@ShamaeBallesteros every Mormon family I have met has been overly protective and definitely not an environment I would ever want a child to grow up in.
Tbh I'm glad I live in Ireland where mormans do not exist 😌
@@ShamaeBallesteros it’s not a generalization. it’s a rare occasion for a mormon family to not be abusive.
not gonna lie all this old footage brings back memories... that big black dog of theirs was malakai and eventually passed away, that was so sad man. the old days were there was so little content on TH-cam and the people didnt get payed for it was a more careless time. for someone like me growing up in a not so stable household these videos were very comforting.
i LOVED the shaytards! especially because it was just me and my mom in the house. we didn’t have big christmas like they did, big thanksgivings, family time in general so i use to live through them. i use to watch them everyday when i got home after doing my homework and eating.
i was in elementary at the time btw. like (3rd-5th grade)
I loved the Shaytards and watched them every day. When Shay was making “ Vlogumentary”, he was asking for donations from fans, in exchange for perks. I signed up for the highest tier, $500, for a phone call from Shay. I was also promised that if the movie made $ I would receive my money back. Well of course the movie came out and was bought, but Shay never called me nor did I get my $ back.
Wow, that’s what we call a scam!
wow I'm sorry😕 That's a lot of money
Oh my, I'm so sorry! That's terrible.
wtf?!?! that’s so gross i’m sorry!!
Im petty 😭 i would've sued or something, $500 is alot of money
idk why but having “mormon religion” in the trigger warning made me laugh really hard lmfao
The fact he keeps saying "we" fail... its you fail, it was all you dude 😐 Colette does deserve better
Ikr
yeah, i totally get what you’re saying about ppl not understanding what they did wrong and cancel culture, but at the end of the day, rich influencers that are adults are not children. they have to take the responsibility for themselves to see how they are hurting people, and people are allowed to be hurt if it’s actions that directly affect people or what they identify with. it’s their responsibility to take feedback and use their huge platforms to at the very least not hurt people. i’m not saying that’s true in this case, this is very interpersonal drama that doesn’t really affect anyone else, but i would just say that analogy is not always accurate when referring to adults with a lot of power. great video!!!
Was here before you had a thousand subscribers and look at you now. You are going to be so big because you do research and actually care about the information that you put out.
same ! I was here at about 2k subs
Please do vanlifers next. “Life with Lee” a popular vanlife girl committed suicide last week from the toxic vanlife drama. Someone needs to expose it
omg what?? rip :(
Omg I just looked up Lee MacMillan 😭
Wait it was due to ban life drama ??? In real life or online ? Where did u get this
@@Sarah-sh4df it’s true, there are a ton of articles.
@@iamsotired.419 can you give me a link or website ? Publication?
Collette is the strongest person ever. So much respect for her
Would respect her more if she left she don't deserve him
@@nickj9846 i mean she had 5 kids with him and i think that she depends on him a lot so i think she’s sticking it out for the kids
@Dorothy Zbornak I agree
@Dorothy Zbornak not all women have that chose tho. it’s extremely strong to be able to take yourself out of that situation but it’s also not easy for some women to leave bc they have kids that might not have the funds to leave or even it’s just bc they don’t know how. all women is situation like that are strong no matter what
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we traveled back in time and told the producers of The Truman Show that the concept of a child having their entire life recorded for the entertainment of others would become a reality for dozens of children everywhere.
I honestly wish there was more parts to this series 😭😭
same
Ok but in that video Shay dis where he “cried” about his wife movin out... his eyes are DRY. He seems like a manipulator.
I’m at that part and just saw ur comment and it’s so funny lol
@@tiffanyv9814 !!!
He said
*blink blink*
I’m devastated
*blink blink*
@@mekaylarobles 😂😂😂
And then how the tone completely shifts when he says he wants to start making videos again 🙄
Right where are the tears he was definitely doing it for views and not his family
I used to watch the Shaytards religiously. They were a such a beautiful family and I truly admired their devotion to their faith and loved ones. I was really sad to see everything that happened. I recently checked out their Instagram and and was even more disappointed to see the horrible all l*ves matter and tr*mp-supporting posts of the grandparents even story posts by Gavin! Needless to say, all that glitters isn’t gold 😢
Me too 😕 so disappointing. And apparently shay and his brother Casey aren't that close anymore.
@@minniem4142 oh really? i didn't know that, do you think the 2018 drama was the cause?
What's wrong with that? It's their political and personal views. Plus the founder of the BLM admitted that she is a trained marxists.
@@learchipel5802 I will not respect someone’s views if their views do not respect others, ‘alm’ people and trump supporters do not respect poc and lgbtq+ so why should we be required to respect such horrible views?
@@learchipel5802 what's wrong with marxism?
Just would like to say you gained a subscriber and you talked about this situation so eloquently. I grew up in the town where Shay and Collette live so when this all happened it was a huge deal. I've never been a ShayTards fan myself (Carlie used to come into my work trying to get women to join her MLM, and they also bought the local ski hill and made the prices for lift tickets higher which sucks because we're a low income community) but I've always felt for their kids and the situation this put them and Collette in.
The fact you got these three videos out so quick after one another is so commendable🙌🏻 your hard work is defo showing off!!
also don’t end this series it’s so good and sheds so much light on information that a lot of people didn’t know :,(
idk if i have no empathy or what but i don't feel bad for him at all. oh he's sad and missed his wife? don't cheat then😐
The way he was "crying" while saying collette left, i saw no tears
SAMEEEE 😀
the thing he said about this situation being more difficult to handle in front of 5 million people when he didn’t even have to deal with it as a whole had he been a decent husband…
no empathy for cheaters isn't no empathy, cause you (probably) wouldn't cheat.
Great doc series! Facebook suggested, years ago, I follow ACE family and I'm not one to follow parents that promote their kids, personal life, I didn't even find it interesting, but that's just me. Can def see how the constant public eye and lack of privacy, especially for the kids, can be destructive. Seems like money is the motivator. Great job! ❤