@@Millstone_Justice yeh seriously if your going fast and your not taking care of others like that snowboarder just did you need to slow down a lot everyone should have the same respect on the slopes
@@towingislife6619 I believe the video answers your question. I was a ski patroller in Colorado for 15 years, responded to hundreds of collisions mostly between OOC boarders hitting skiers although the opposite was also true. That's why tighter slope restrictions popped up in the industry in the 90's and actual skiing police were utilized at certain ski areas for a number of years. The worse cases were those of OOC boarders and children skiers with one fatality as a result that I responded to. Think about that. Take your daughter skiing and watch her be killed while you are skiing with her. Luckily the boarder was found and arrested because the distraught father was able to id the bastard who boarded away with a smirk on his face after hitting the kid. This was an extreme case yes but as I stated, skier/boarder collisions were rampant and OOC for a good while in the 90's and 00's. God knows what's happening since I retired a few years ago. Oh wait, the video answers that question too.
@@Millstone_Justice fr, I ski and snowboarders usually are awesome on the mtn and i love watching em shred, but this particular snowboarder should be black listed. too many people die from this.
He just has the wrong timing and lost control when he realized he mistimed the moment the skier will make his turn back to the right. High speed + poor control and technique + misjudgement = accident. Totally the boarders fault.
Sooo as a snowboarder who gets goin pretty fast sometimes I've never understood these videos where a rider just absolutely Thanos Style wrecks a dude. Learn your turns before you send some burns homies
@@patriot2372 it’s easier to slow down on a snowboard than skis, you just do a hard turn on your heel edge. Those that don’t know how to carve to maintain the right speed or preform a hard stop on a dime aren’t even worthy of being considered novice snowboarders. As someone that has rode both snowboarding is far easier to control once you’re not a beginner than skiing. Skiers tend to be Jerrys or slowly zig-zagg the trails anyway
Douglas Montague no one wants to be a jerry, you imbeciles leave your gear laying all over the lodge, You guys cut by people like it’s a slalom course, Too top it all off you guys def get your fairy carvers to close to my precious board in the ski lines. Snowboards are the new age get used to it. WERE TAKING OVER PEASANT.
@@cargonomads4947 first and foremost, who the fuck cares what you use to slide down a hill. Second. Skiing is growing at many multiples faster than snowboarding. It isn't even close.
@@patriot2372 ur a troglodyte dude, if you cant control your board that just means youre ass at riding. get your facts straight before you talk shit or youre no better than the rest of the idiot skiers i see at my local resort. like are you really stupid enough to think that the people you see straightlining are any good at snowboarding? they obviously suck at it, since going on your edges to turn is literally one of the fundamentals, you can't really ride if you can't turn
this guy should not be riding anywhere near that fast if he can't avoid someone that's in sight as clear as day. this isn't about whether you're a skier or snowboarder, this is about being on the mountains and riding without control. this guy needs to know his limits and based off of this he is way out of his league to be going at such speeds
I disagree I think yes, it was the snowboarders fault, however it’s extremely difficult to pass someone on a narrow path when they are turning from side to side blocking the way Edit: I’m tired of getting notifications stop responding if you’re a jerry
@@eddielaughlin6274 how tf is this narrow? the whole thing is banked too. the boarder had so many other lines than the one that involved knocking over an old man.
@Hello!!! you are, but the person in front has right of way. you don't have eyes in the back of your head, so it's on the people going fast to stay in control and avoid those in front of them.
It’s also up to the downhill not to cross into uphill riders line without looking up. Same as if you must always look uphill when starting down the trail. The snow boarder was trying to go around and the skier cut him off.
@@cycleoflife7331BULLSHIT! He wasn’t starting down the trail. And the boarder came from an adjoining trail, and was quite a distance behind him in the video and coming fast (and out of control). You will NOT find in any known responsibility code any language about not crossing into the uphill skiers line and having to look up. The only obligation to look up is when starting out on a trail or when entering a trail. SO, that doesn’t apply to the skier here. You don’t get to make up your own rules !!!! You need to read the responsibility code because it’s reckless people like you who cause accidents. For your education, rule #1 states “Always stay in control. You must be able to stop or avoid people or objects.” Clearly, the boarder was out of control and couldn’t stop in time. And that’s the ONLY rule that applies here. PERIOD !!!!
@@heitorcorneliusYou’re correct that was not the case here. You need to look uphill when starting out or entering a trail. Other than that the entire responsibility falls on the uphill skier/boarder to be able to stop in time and avoid objects and people below him or her.
@@cycleoflife7331 nope. it's the uphill rider's responsibility not to put their line in any of the downhill rider's line, or even, not anywhere near downhill rider's proximity and allow them to have all the space they need, The skier was turning like a normal person on slope.
Skier obviously never had the wind knocked out of him with all that whining. Furthermore both parties are at fault, skier should’ve checked before making such long turns; especially on a narrow pass and snowboarder should’ve noticed the skier was a novice and the run was narrow.
You are wrong. 100% guy from behind. No argument, well if you’re completely dependent on a phone to survive you might find fault with the wrong guy. Most device junkies believe that their devotion to the device takes precedence over anything. Hopefully you are simply wrong. Cheers! As far as overreacting I am not convinced at all. Wonder how this turned out?
@@blakevandam1328 al im gonna say if you get the wind knocked out of you, which i hwve many times throughtout my many years of hockey and snowboardings. Just dont try and yell or talk, every time you try and talk or make sounds you are robbing yourself of air. Just lay there and focus on breathing in the future
The snowboarder was coming at him at the speed of a car and hit him straight on I think that would hurt pretty bad. Edit: nvm I get what you mean now, the China crosswalk accidents lol. This definitely hurt though
Not about being a skier or snowboarder, one of the first things you learn is that you're responsible for the people in front of you because they can't see you . You have to make sure they won't move into your way and you have to make sure you're going at a controllable speed if you're coming from behind.
@@goavegas4874 Caveat on that is if you are merging or coming in from a side run. Then YES it's on you to look uphill to make sure you can safely enter the stream of ski/board traffic.
@@snoman71 Exactly., Killington one of my biggest gripe is their green circle run from top of Gondola cuts through 5 different blacks. The new skiers rarely look up.
@@andrewdinns1746 Then at the same time, the black runs are cutting across the green circle run. So if anything, the people on black should be aware of that and slow down given that they consider themselves as "expert" level, they should be able to avoid any person on a green run.
This is in no way the skiers fault, if you ride at that speed its expected that you have at least some control or thought of how to avoid people - this guy did some quick turns but still not close to unpredictable
@@iKlaSiicKoNii I can't speak for everyone, but when I get the wind knocked out of me my first thought is to breath, not make noise. It sounds like he's in pain.
Im a snowboarder and this was obviously the snowboarders fault. No question about it this isn't about who was riding what it was just that the snowboarder hit the skier from behind its as simple as that.
@@ggbooliano ya like fr the skiers stopping on a down hill slope to play Rock Paper Scissors or some shit...🤦♂️ and then going 5 mph carving the entirety of the line even if the snowboarder wanted to safely pass he’d have to slow down to there speed and still thread the needle bc skier isn’t in his own lane at all he gives zero room for any type of pass and snakes entire ski trail...I’m not surprised he got smashed and he shouldn’t have been surprised either...but he was
@@yosour6733 thats not at all how it works. As the up hill person, it is YOUR responsibility to avoid downhill traffic, no matter how slow they are or how wide their turns are. If you can't control yourself at speed, know when speed is ok or avoid an obstruction, maybe find another activity that you won't kill someone doing.
@@ggbooliano Nah man watch the video again. Filmer saw the boarder but no way the guy that got hit did. Sounds lame but downhill riders have the right of way and if you can't avoid them, then you are out of control. Imagine if it was a little child learning to ski. Woulda vaporized him! I love my straight lines but that boarder was sketchy as hell.
@@berniebauer6891 look like he had perfect control over his speed until a goop decided to waltz right into his path pally shoudlve stayed in the kiddo lane and not the fast lane
@@monoralph1375 Nah screw that, there's every chance that two minutes after this everyone was back on their feet and riding. Don't waste ski patrols time unless you know for sure you need them.
This happened to me decades ago by a fellow skier. I was standing at the top of a hill and skier flew out of the tree from above me and his ski landed between my binding and my leg causing me to immediately be knocked over full force into ice dislocating my shoulder. When you are not expecting the collision from behind the body is simply not ready for the impact and the pain coupled with the breath knocked out of you is immense. All the skier said was "sorry dude. You OK?" No, I'm not F%*!king OK! In this video the boarder had lots of time to avoid this collision. It's not a boarder issue but a negligence issue.
Coming to a stop in the middle of a run is negligent. If you are going to stop on a run you stop on the side of it. You face up the hill watching for incoming skiers/snowboarders. When travelling/carving extremely slowly you don’t take up the whole run. I would have avoided this guy. But don’t act like this skier is without fault. The skier should be wearing a helmet too….
Press f to pay respects. Lol but seriously. Please don't blame Snowboarders in general. This boarder was an idiot with no respect for those around them. Seen skiers do it too.
as a boarder myself I don’t think he was blaming snowboarders here, he just said that this snowboarder was negligent (which is an understatement) like if a video said “stupid skier crashes into a crowd” that wouldn’t be blaming skiers in general
@Reid Elson real talk snowboarders were banned from mountains for quite awhile. And I know many older ski heads above 60 still talk as if what they do is criminal.
lets not make this an argument between snowboarders and skiers, it doesn't matter which you do as long as your out there having fun. Now, I ski and board and in my opinion this is the fault of the snowboarder. Downhill always has right of way, the reason, well none of us have eyes in the backs of our head and we should be looking downhill. If the skier is taking a wide line (which is fine) then the snowboarder needs to slowdown until he can find a safe time and path to pass the skier, the skier has done absolutely nothing wrong here. I would add that the only time in my opinion uphill has right of way, is when the person downhill is stationary, in which instance they should check and wait for a safe time before moving off. People who have commented blaming the skier need to seriously think about the safety of others before hitting the slopes again. What might have been the outcome if the skier was a child??????
I agree, as a snowboarder I find it very annoying when they take those big right and left turns, but that what makes skiing fun and us snowboarders just have to watch out more carefully
I don’t care who was responsible for the crash and don’t want to blame anyone. It’s just that I find it quite rude(to say the least) not to check up on the snowboarder who’s lying on the ground and not giving any signs of being conscious. And second thing…why was the skier not wearing a helmet..? Most of the times you need one because of situations just like this one. FYI: I worked in a ski resort long enough to see and experience many crashes, mishaps and other stupidity that could(mostly)be completely avoided following the right approach to the winter sport(doesn’t rrally matter weather on skis, snowbords, ski bobs, bikes or wathever else you may use to bomb down the slopes)
Evidently they taught you to use parentheses at that job, too 😆 🤣 😂. In regards to the first part of your comment, that woman could've been experiencing mild shock, so maybe don't be so hard on her. Not everyone thinks logically in emergency situations, especially right after the incident. Plus, she may have given the guy muff to mouth resuscitation after the camera went off.
The ski resorts do post signs about the skier code. I think they should be more vocal day to day to people as they get on the chairs. Some dumbass people might not even read or get the code.
You didn't see him moving around in pain. He was awake. What did the other skirt do for any of them. So he should had skied down there and looked at him from a close distance also. The skier didn't do shit for anoyone
@Joseph Friesen that's such an ignorant way of thinking, you shouldn't think of "oh this is all his fault he can lay there and die for all I care" instead you should think "yeah its his fault but is he ok and what could be done to help both of them" don't be a dick, yes I know he cause the whole thing and is in the wrong, but that's such an asshole way of thinking.
@@Ghost-hf2xg If I were confronted with a medical emergency where I had to choose between helping a friend with unknown injuries and the person who hit him, I'd prioritize the friend every time. I'd be legally and morally obligated not to harm the unconscious boarder and to help him if expedient, but little else (and it would be more consideration than he'd shown the skier). I would actually not make physical contact with the boarder. He's unconscious with a possible neck injury and I'd be very mad at him. Nothing good could come from that. Better to flag down some help or (if friend can be calmed down and told to sit down) ski really fast to the nearest lift and inform ski patrol of the accident.
Damn it, this is why they ban us snowboarders on mountains. The trail looks perfectly groomed. There was no excuse for that, even if you were speeding. Pathetic.
This has nothing to do with being a skier or snowboarder. A friend of mine got hit by a skier last week on a trail just like this, fell over and broke her wrist and the guy didn't even stop. So in this video it's a snowboarder but it's not like skiers never do this. Guy was totally out of control and should not be going at that speed if he can't control it, easy as that
That was 100% snowboarders fault in this case. Just saying, a skier has done the EXACT same to me. I was going slow and a skier came from behind and knocked me out cold. This whole, snowboarders are a problem mentality is BS. it’s just out of control riders that are the problem.
@@shsb2355 That’s not at all how this works, it’s always the responsibility of the skier/snowboarder who’s behind to not crash into the people in front of him. People are going to be turning/carving on the mountain, that’s not “cutting back in front”
Indeed. Slow zone flags are meaningless if patrols do not enforce them. A good example is in Solitude near the Powderhorn lift. Skiers and boarders go away too fast in the slow zone area and I haven't ever seen a patrol there even I skied 39 days in Solitude this season.
30 year boarder here, he looked well under control until the novice skier cut right into his passing lane after he was all the way into a toeside carve. That said he should've been watching his speed better passing people in such a narrow section. I blame both of them
@@ST19859 Riders and skiers in front always have the right of way. Always. There is no "cutting in front" of someone. It is always a speed or space issue if you hit someone who turned in front of you. Also, that skier's form would not suggest novice. Notice nice skidded turns, skies near touching, etc. This was not a novice by any means. Maybe not advanced or expert, but unlikely to be a novice.
When the snowboarder shows up in the picture at 0:11... even at that speed I'd be able to make a hard stop and avoid the crash. This dude has no control over his board whatsoever. I saw an attempt to slow down but that was way to off balance.
I made a noise similar briefly following a bike accident. I was able to calm down and identify that I wasn’t so much making that noise as was the air coming out from my punctured lung! That looked like a very hard hit.
People who ski or snowboard from the top should look out and take responsibility for people who are lower than them. This was a mistake from the snowboarder.
Your responsibility code for all skiers/snowboarders: 1. Always ski in control. You must be able to stop or avoid people and objects. 2. People ahead of you have the right-of- way. You must avoid them. The Snowboarder violated the first two rules of the responsibility code. The skier was not starting out or entering a trail and was under no obligation to look behind him for approaching skiers or snowboarders. Many people are making up rules that don’t exist in any known responsibility code. In any case, you can expect to find the two above rules as coming first in any known responsibility code for skiing/snowboarding.
Please! if you go skiing or riding; KNOW YOUR LIMITS. I have been skiing for two decades and snowboarding for almost that long as well, I see stupid novices do shit like this almost every time I go (doesn't usually end up this bad, but sometimes can be far worse). Respect the limits of your abilities on the mountain, and if you choose to push them, only do so on open terrain that you are extremely comfortable riding on... If you don't you might be sending someone to the hospital, and you're lucky if that someone is you.
The skier cut the snowboarder off.. It's 100% the skiers fault.. Both of them were stopped mid slope, and then the idiot skied right into the path of the boarder.. I'm tired of entitled people blaming everyone but themselves.. If anyone knows who this snowboarder is, I'd like to help him file a lawsuit against the skier..
@@MarkLada please refer to the international ski federation's rules of conduct before returning to the slopes: 1. Respect for others A skier or snowboarder must behave in such a way that he does not endanger or prejudice others. 2. Control of speed and skiing or snowboarding A skier or snowboarder must move in control. He must adapt his speed and manner of skiing or snowboarding to his personal ability and to the prevailing conditions of terrain, snow and weather as well as to the density of traffic. 3. Choice of route A skier or snowboarder coming from behind must choose his route in such a way that he does not endanger skiers or snowboarders ahead. 4. Overtaking A skier or snowboarder may overtake another skier or snowboarder above or below and to the right or to the left provided that he leaves enough space for the overtaken skier or snowboarder to make any voluntary or involuntary movement. (cf. international ski federation's rules of conduct -- there are 6 more...)
@@lucarossi8442 or just have some awareness or your surroundings, look over your shoulder now and again. like this for instance, if you see a snowboarder barrelling out of control down the slope, dony start slow weaving all over the run in front of him
Person downhill is allowed to aimlessly wander in any direction with their eyes closed and headphones on, still legally the fault of the person coming from higher up hill. People online or on the hill can claim what should have been done is obviously, but when you pass by thousands of people a day 100-170 days a year, year after year you eventually come close or to a situation like this. Even if you accurately guess 99.999% of the time if the person in front is going to either keep going or abruptly turn a random direction, full time boarders and skiers pass by that many people in a year easy. All it takes is one bad guess one of the times you're not doing a school zone speed. Where I'm from if a pedestrian gets hit crossing a highway it's the vehicles fault. At the same time if the pedestrian values their life or health they should look before they step foot on the highway and they should continually check if something new is coming. They definitely shouldn't be running around on the highway in random directions without looking. When I'm on the hill I'm constantly checking for faster traffic coming up behind me, especially if I'm about to do an abrupt turn.
Holy ouch! That boarder deserves to be banned for the season from that resort and should be on the hook for that poor dude's urgent care visit. No excuse to be riding so recklessly. I'm a snowboarder, for what it's worth.
@@CanadianBoardCrew he might’ve broke a rib based of where he was holding. Pretty common to make noises like this for the first 30seconds or so after breaking a rib or multiple
Snowboarder here. Problem with snowboarding is you can ride down the mountain improperly with no control or proper form. And that sums up most snowboarders. Ski’ing demands control and skill mastery
The skier had the right of way AND he did not make a sudden turn. Any uphill skier/snowboarder could predict where the skier would be as he passes him.
Had the same thing happen to me in Snowshoe, WV on a slope called Widowmaker...the snowboarder hit me from behind...never saw him or heard him...he was about 14 years old and should not have been on that black diamond slope. Put a dent in my helmet...knocked me out momentarily. I ended up with a compound fracture of my thumb where the edge of his snowboard hit me...also bent one of my ski poles 90 degrees...his dad had the nerve to yell at me like it was my fault...while I was bleeding all over the snow...then when his son realized he had a broken arm...which was bent like an L shaped pretzel...dad said, "your arm is fine..." lol... Ski patrol showed up and gave me the father's information in case I wanted to talk to a lawyer...I didn't...hope they learned something from that...
You really did good. By ducking the kid over with his stupid mistake you would have created an evil mean young kid. Hopefully he learned his lesson which I believe after a huge collision he surely did
@@leaf4836 : I was down for “Wisp” all day today “2-20-22” in DeepCreek Maryland. It’s a shame a lot of snow is melting but there was quite a few runs open. had fun.
What scares me the most are the comments. I've been skiing for 57yrs and riding for 25yrs, and in this case, the skier is 100% innocent, and the rider is 100% at fault. The skier is not taking up the whole slope, he's making regular-sized and reasonable turns on the right 2/3rds of the groomed area. He's crying because he was completely blindsided, and probably has broken ribs if not worse. The rider is going way too fast, and makes a bad/stupid decision to pass on the right, seems to have 2nd thoughts (watch it in slo-mo) and catches his edge and clouts the skier. He, at least, has time to prep for the collision. Just an odd decision to go to the right. He passes the camera person on the left, and she's behind the downhill skier, so why the boarder decides to pass the skier on the right is just and odd and a bad choice. He should have stayed completely to the left where there was tons of room. Of course, he's just laying there thinking about his future. He's likely fine, because he had time to prep for the collision, unlike the skier. The comments about the boarder being more injured, and the skier taking up the whole slope are just crazy, when the video evidence is right there. Makes you wonder about people's skill level and makes me even more concerned about safety on the slopes. I've gotten 51 days in this year, and I wear a padded backpack, which would help in a blindside hit from behind. It's crazy out there even when there's no one on the slopes!
@@isaackst-louis7678 dont zig zag? I am confused on where you been boarding lol. Just like the guy said before you. If ya see someone zagging wide, keep your distance. They cant look behind as easy as you look forward.
@@isaackst-louis7678 Good point! ya did say like an idiot. And I can confirm thats the reason I stay away from Green run's alot of idiot zig zagging. Blue's and up have more control with there zig and there zag.
@@isaackst-louis7678 The only way that beginner and intermediate skiers can stay controlled is to zigzag. Would you rather they just straight lines the hill completely out of control? Because that's the only alternative.
I got hit from behind by an Aussie snowboarder at Lake Louise, years back. I appeared to be alone on the trail,( it really was pretty empty),and the next thing I saw was a beautiful blue ski. I didn’t even hear him so I didn’t tense up. That’s what saved me from any injury( I was 50 when it happened). He screamed” are you okay”? I assured him I was but pleaded with him to slow down(because I knew he didn’t have the skills). He was mortified, the poor kid.
If most of you guys pay attention to what you watch instead of just put your 2 cents in, the skier was swaying back and forth the snowboarder tried to go to the side to avoid it and the skier was the one who was at fault for not thinking about someone else trying to have a good time. The way he is acting shows it he’s at the age he should just lay there if hurt 🤦🏼♂️entertain the clowns u become the circus
I watched this from the chair lift hope you're doing well. That was not fun to watch hope that guy gets some kind of reprimand, heard him doing the yahoo yell before he hit you, which is why I looked up and saw it.
You shouldn't. If you're looking behind you then you're increasing the likelihood of you causing an accident, something I've seen happen many times. The only time you should look uphill is if you're crossing the slope. If everyone just avoided everyone who's below them, which is easy if you're riding within your ability, then there would never be any accidents.
@@ddandymann for example: if I go slow and the person behind me faster is good to look back ,to let him go and not be in his way, i think is very similar to driving a car
@@Darius17090 And what if someone comes in front of you in that time? Or you react to the person behind you and hit someone in front of you that you weren't aware of because you weren't looking? The ski code exists for a reason, because if everyone sticks to it it is literally impossible for accidents to occur, the issue is people not following it.
@@ddandymann if you put "what if" in front of everything that can happen you don't ski, for me safety is very important and looking back one second for me work's very well
You can go whatever speed you want. Every skier should practice maneuvering at different speeds. It's not about going as fast as possible if you're out there to learn a new trail or get a feel for some new equipment.
andre tarp -Listen moron--I started skiing in 1980. I once skied too fast into a trail merge--Ski Patrol stopped me and pointed out the danger. I have never repeated that. I switched over to Snowboarding 4 years ago and was crashed into by an out of control rider--I lost 4 weeks of work. I ride according to the code and am constantly on the look out for jackasses like the guy in this video. Riding is a blast but carelessness and cavalier attitudes can ruin a day and could cost someone thier way of life. All I am saying, think beyond yourself and the moment. Read the code and follow it.
Lightningchase1973 Yes, I totally agree--The "at fault" rider or skier should bear the financial burden for the damage they cause. A lost lift ticket is step 1, only step 1.
Check Colorado & Utah law: Skiing is not a contact sport and being blindsided by another skier or snowboarder is NOT an inherent risk under either Colorado or Utah law. Colorado law presumes that the uphill skier or boarder is at fault in a skiing accident, because the overtaking skier has the primary duty to avoid the skier below. In Utah, skiers are required to exercise “reasonable care” to avoid collisions. Usually, this also means the uphill skier must yield to skiers below. Thus, one of the key issues in any skier/skier case is who was the uphill or overtaking skier. The nature of the injury often gives substantial clues as to how the ski accident occurred, the speed at which the skiers were skiing, and the relative angles to each other. All skiers are under a general duty to ski cautiously, within their ability and to maintain control and a proper lookout. If a skier fails to ski in control or to maintain a lookout, the skier is negligent and responsible for the injuries and damages that result from the collision.
Skier was taking up the lane snowboarder was trying to slow down but he couldn't predict where the skier was going because the skier was curving to wide. It's definitely the snowboarders fault but the skier shouldn't be curving that wide
The snowboarder had the responsibility to divert to the ungroomed snow off of the trail for safety, or to plot his route in relation with others properly. He failed at both.
Actually, after making a pause, you have to look up the slope to see if somebody is coming before entering the slope. They should have let the snowboarder pass. You can blame the snowboarder for Not having control at that speed but when your not riding, you should give space to those riding, especially in such a narrow slope. Those two sikers were just entering unexpected and in the wrong moment. Those are quite common rules. At least here in Switzerland.
same thing happened to me when I was snowboarding, only I was in front and the Skier plowed into me like a missle, he was out cold! If you are riding you only need to pay attention to who is in front of you I should'nt have to turn around and watch my back.
Speaking as a snowboader myself....the snowboarder in the vid was completely at fault in the collision. That boarder got no control, going at speed that was way beyond their skill....just so much stupidity
He did have control, what happened was he went to turn right as the skier was going left, right when the boarder went right the skier turned right. The snowboarder then tries to stop but catches his edge causing him to go into the skier.
@@UncagedTommy420 I thought it was pretty obvious that the skier _could_ (and would) turn right. If you're putting yourself in a situation on an easier trail like this where you have to guess what the other person is going to do in order to not run into them, you're probably doing something very wrong.
I've never seen a person in so much pain get up immediately, walk up a hill, knee down, and then start looking around as if to see if anyone is looking lol.
@D2M5 yes moaning and/or screaming could happen when winded but you have to admit this is outrageous. My man was definetely trying to get some big money out of this lol 😂. Unfortunately his acting skills are not oscar worthy
@@imaxdigital7052 he was screaming and attempting to talk, breathinng innn and out and runninng arounnd is not somethinng you do when the winnnd is knocked from you. he was being a karen
Snowboarder fault. He/she needed to slow down or go around. If you don't want to be a victim of this kind of crashes, look up to see if any idiots are bombing down your way before continuing your run in the middle of what appears to be a narrow run.
The person in front has the right of way. It's that simple, it looks like the snowboarder was coming too fast to adjust. The one that was hurt sounded like he was instructing the one with the GoPro. GoPro sounded like a kid. Does anyone know what happened to these two?
Some people don't seem to understand the "yield to downhill" rule, but it works the same way as cars. If you run into someone/something from behind, it's always your fault. It doesn't matter how they got there or what they were doing. The sole exception might be that guy that wandered onto a closed race course, if you've seen that video. Blaming the downhill person is equivalent to blaming the tree if you happen to hit one of those.
This is 100% on the boarder. In this case the snowboarder was clearly not in control. If you “know the code” it’s your responsibility to be in control and avoid downhill riders and objects. Silly, also. There was plenty of terrain open to choose, if he was a better rider, and had been in control. I’ve been snowboarding for 20+ years and have also been an instructor btw.
EXCEPT for the fact that the skier using almost the full width of the run is a bit of an issue. If you're on a narrow run and using 70-80% of it, you're making it hard-er up hill to avoid you. Yes you can slow down, but there's a bilateral aspect to this to at least make it easier for people to avoid you. Skier isn't completely off the hook on this one.
@@MattsBaseballWorld I understand the perils of trying to make an argument in youtube comments. Please understand also that this is not a boarder vs. skier thing for me. However, as a PSAI-AASI certified instructor, it's my job to make people aware of the rules. The rule (that could cause you to lose your pass, or even put you in legal liability for the injury of others) is: *"It is your responsibility to ski/ride in control, and avoid downhill skiers and riders." * Full stop. The only other rule in the responsibility code that puts ANY liability on a downhill rider is that "one should not stop where they cannot be seen from above." If the uphill rider or skier can SEE you, it's 100% their responsibility to avoid you. Downhill skiers and riders may be doing stupid things! This includes taking up the whole "run", or even sitting down in the middle of the slope. You have to slow down enough to control yourself and pass them cleanly with at least 10' of space. If ski patrol had witnessed this collision, they would have pulled the boarder's pass, and both parties would have exchanged information as in an auto accident for insurance purposes. The analogy of being rear-ended in a car applies to skiing as well. 99% of liability is automatically assigned to the person behind. While it's technically "nice" and "good form" to allow people to pass, it's not the rule. Skiers and riders need to know this, and behave accordingly. All of that said, this was not a narrow run! (An example of a narrow run is when you have a cliff on one side and a high wall of snow on the other.) All of the WHITE STUFF in the video is perfectly ridable terrain. AVOID. CHOOSE ANOTHER LINE. GO AROUND. If the boarder insisted on staying on a single width of cat track groomer, he should not have been going that fast for his skill level. The whole of the terrain in the video is perfectly ridable. That boarder could have used any of the snow around to avoid the skier. That's why I said it was "silly". The boarder was riding above his ability and caused a needless collision, and possible permanent injury.
@@shokojimhollingsworth3940 NO worries, youtube arguments is where world peace will be decided in the future. Kudos on PSIA, I'm CSIA/ASA-CSC, I think we have close to the full alphabet covered. There's just a difference between right & hurt, and adapting & safe. The skier is completely right to be able to ski wherever he wants, yet, the result is he's crying like a 5yr old. A smarter skier, would realize space is limited, with respect to novice/int skiers. Advanced skiers/boarders, no problem, they'll go up on the right or have fun on the left of this run. This snow boarder couldn't do that... such that idiot met up with the skills gap.
@@MattsBaseballWorld Totally agree. As a skilled and "defensive" skier/rider, I'm also looking back uphill to make sure I'm not about to get bodied by outa control kids like this. I was only talking about liability here. It's always best to get out of the way if you notice something like this developing! (Which is why I'm usually way off in the trees somewhere anyway....)
Looks like the snowboarder was expecting the skier to keep going to the left and they attempted to avoid by going right. The immediate change in direction with the skier threw him off guard, snowboarder looks as if tried to stop but looked down behind, caught their heel edge and went flying into the skier. They should have stayed high on the left and passed (even at speed) without incident. Guess no outcome to what happened?
Also wasnt an immediate change in direction, he was following a predictable pattern and anyone with a brain knows that if someone zigzags 5 times they are probably gonna do it a 6th
Every skier carves to control speed. That's how it's always been. You shouldn't straight line a trail unless there's no one there or you're skilled enough to quickly stop.
Funny, because if you run through a yield sign and get hit by a car that you should have yielded to... then you caused the accident, bc you didn't yield the right of way. Apline Responsibility Code: "BEFORE starting downhill or merging onto a trail, look uphill and YIELD to others" all caps mine*
@@dimis2140 if you step off a curb, in front of a bus when its descending a snowy hill, then you caused the accident. Same logic applies to cutting off an uphill skier. We are obligated to look uphill and yield to people above us. That is the specific rule when starting downhill. The Alpine Respondibility Code specifies exactly this. I quoted it above. People are allowed to ski and ride fast. Thst's why some of us go. No one can't stop on a dime, just like that bus on the hill. Accidents happen when people misunderstand the rules... like when people refuse or neglect to yield the right of way when they are required to.
@@coachmatt6735 The skier in front has priority. The skier skiing behind another in the same direction must keep sufficient distance between himself and the other skier so as to leave the preceding skier enough space to make all his movements freely. ... This rule applies even when overtaking a stationary skier!
@@dimis2140 In normal cicumstances, you're right. If everyone was on course from the top, without stopping, you'd be right. But the fact that these people were stopped and pulled to the side gave them an obligation to look uphill and yield to the rider uphill of them before dropping back into the narrow, bottlenecking piste. Google this image: Alpine Responsibility Code. #4 clearly states "Before starting downhill or merging onto a run, look uphill and yield to others". I'm not making it up. 40+years on the slopes. 31 years riding. I know the rules. The bottom line is that this accident doesn't happen if the skiers properly observe this rule and yield the slope to the rider who was on course, above them.
He's fighting to get air into his lungs. Thst's what it sounds like. The very defintion of "got the wind knocked out of him." Probably finished the day fine. Possible rib injury.
@@coachmatt6735 No, no it absolutely does not sound like that. Hes crying like a complete pussy and its pathetic. Even with a broken bone you dont cry and wail like a fucking 2 year old.
@@ryan39584 That's crazy! I was hit in my send year. Given I was learning and going slow but there was PLENTY of room and the guy should have been able to go around.
Obviously snowboarder ultimately at fault because of speed and has the ability to foresee what is below. But, (just a question) is it reasonable for a skiier to do S-turns going side to side across the entire downhill path as if nobody will want to pass at even a slightly faster rate? On a busy slope, does everyone uphill have to hold up their run so the slower downhill skiier can use the entirety of the run without leaving room for others to pass? I don't know the answer.
What busy slope? Those three were the only people on the slope! Talk about delusional.... you see things that just aren't there so you have something to argue. I'd guess that you also have Trump Derangement Syndrome! Nobody is saying you cannot pass. This is something else you've made up just to argue. If you want pass a car on the highway and another is in the way, are you allowed to ram off the road? No you aren't. But, here you think that's allowed. Folks.... this is what happens with common core education. These children can no longer think things through with any critical thinking.
This happened to me when I was 11 years old. I was minding my own business night skiing with my dad on blues squares and a snowboarder hit me and put me in the hospital with a concussion and two contusions.
That man can really whoop. That said, skiers can be very tricky to predict. He was in the middle of the run and looked as though he was going left then he swooped right just as the boarder pivoted right. I've seen this happen on the hill many times. Had a skier do this to me at high speed (I was on a board) but I was the one down hill.
The skiiers were stopped on the skiers right of a narrow patch of groomed. Then they both merged together, and proceded directly across the trail to the far skiiers left. They essentially obstructed the entire trail, two skiiers, making erratic direction changes, instead of proceding directly straight on fall line of the cat-track. Because of the erratic, entitled nature of their lines, the snowboarder had no clear safe lane... they blocked them all. He tried desperately to shoot the gap between them, but the skiier turned back into his path at the moment of impact. You'd have to be an idiot with zero experience on the moubtain to think that 100% of the blame for this accident falls on the rider. He did his absolute best, and was f*cked over by a couple of entitled jerks who wanted to schuss down a narrow track and occupy it all.
@@coachmatt6735 there's at least 5 full seconds between the skiers starting to move and the collision. Nothing about what they did was "erratic". The boarder out ran his skill.
@@counterfit5 -They were stopped on a trail where they may not have been visible from above, as the responsibility code indicates they should not have done. -They started downhill without looking uphill, as the responsibility code obligates them to do. -Because they did not look uphill before starting downhill, they were unaware of the rider who was already on course at speed, and so did not yield right-of-way to the rider as the responsibility code obligates them to do. Pretty cut and dried. If they had never stopped, it would have been the riders fault, and his responsibility to avoid skiers below him already underway. But because they stopped, they assumed a responsibility to not start downhill into someone's path who was already underway. They did not observe that responsibility and as a result they caused a collision. End of story.
My lady got smoked by a boarder from behind this past spring. The guy asked her if she was ok and ghosted before she could even answer. The edge of his board got her on the forehead. Luckily she was wearing a helmet. She’d be scalped or dead. Her arm is still messed up. People can be pretty shitty
It was the responsibility of the boarder to be in control. The skier had the rite of way as he was in front. Snowboarders have a blind spot and they need to constantly turn the head to observe others.
that old dude got wrecked by some kid thats probably 1/4 his age. getting your rib broke in that situation really sucks at that age i bet. if the snow boarder broke a wrist or rib theyde ride off to get help. that old dude is probably gonna be taken off on a snowmobile.
@@supermerderer Don't be surprised if he doesn't rise and help the dude then if he can't even stay awake himself, lol. Also, bad stuff happens to everyone, and people make bad decisions. I'm sure he regretted it after making an unintentional mistake and hopefully learns from it...if he lived.
Except he didn't get his rib broken, no one reacts like that to a broken rib, the typical reaction is to lie on the ground desperately trying to breathe.
@@Bleeper660 bro it’s obv the snowboarders fault, snowboarders mind: hmm, I can either go around him, nah let’s just turn right into him.I hate boarders
1st mistake being stopped on that narrow ass trail. Saw the boarder and tried to beat him to the spot. Maybe look up hill before unneeded S turns or be courteous let someone else pass
@@smiler0charon Person downhill has the right away in a straight situation, but when your zig zagging it's proper hill etiquette to keep either the whole left lane open or the whole right lane open for passing, you can clearly see the boarder thought the right was open to pass, then the skier cut across both lanes. Not only is this the skiers fault for hogging the road but he would be kicked off the big hill where I'm from for not having proper etiquette because the big hill is ment for speed so if your going slow then keep an open lane at all times 🤷♂️
Why is this a skier vs boarder discussion? One person was downhill of the other doing safe controlled turns - the other was "travelling" fast and clearly unable to give way to the downhill person = bad accident - no question the person uphill was in the wrong - as someone with EMT training it seems as tho the result was a bad case of having the wind knocked out of him but hopefully (luckily??) it wasn't much much worse.
Your analysis is exactly right concerning fault. I am the man in the red coat, and had the wind knocked out of me. My then 8 year old son is who recorded the collision with his helmet mount GoPro. My injuries were two broken transverse process in my back. Recovery took a few months, with the help of physical therapy.
I was knocked out before and actually, the noises that came out were involuntary. It took me a while to realize what I was hearing came from me and to stop it.
Yard sale: Open
Snowboarder: Dead
Skier: Dying
Hotel: Trivago
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Negligent skier pulled out in front of a snowboarder
Skier:
Actin like he's about to die
Snownoader:
Actually died
Typical dumbass snowboarder!
Ok
@@Millstone_Justice yeh seriously if your going fast and your not taking care of others like that snowboarder just did you need to slow down a lot everyone should have the same respect on the slopes
@@towingislife6619 I believe the video answers your question. I was a ski patroller in Colorado for 15 years, responded to hundreds of collisions mostly between OOC boarders hitting skiers although the opposite was also true. That's why tighter slope restrictions popped up in the industry in the 90's and actual skiing police were utilized at certain ski areas for a number of years. The worse cases were those of OOC boarders and children skiers with one fatality as a result that I responded to. Think about that. Take your daughter skiing and watch her be killed while you are skiing with her. Luckily the boarder was found and arrested because the distraught father was able to id the bastard who boarded away with a smirk on his face after hitting the kid. This was an extreme case yes but as I stated, skier/boarder collisions were rampant and OOC for a good while in the 90's and 00's. God knows what's happening since I retired a few years ago. Oh wait, the video answers that question too.
@@Millstone_Justice fr, I ski and snowboarders usually are awesome on the mtn and i love watching em shred, but this particular snowboarder should be black listed. too many people die from this.
Dude had the whole empty run and managed to hit the 1 person
He just has the wrong timing and lost control when he realized he mistimed the moment the skier will make his turn back to the right. High speed + poor control and technique + misjudgement = accident. Totally the boarders fault.
@@trixn4285 again, that whole run and managed to hit the one guy.
Clearly amateur.
@@spookgook4903 its true but the skier didnt need to take up the whole run for just going slow forward
@@choewieFN he wasn’t??
@@choewieFN if you go wedge you ruin your knees forever. He was skiing properly.
Sooo as a snowboarder who gets goin pretty fast sometimes I've never understood these videos where a rider just absolutely Thanos Style wrecks a dude. Learn your turns before you send some burns homies
Lol ima ski dude but he trollin
@@patriot2372 it’s easier to slow down on a snowboard than skis, you just do a hard turn on your heel edge. Those that don’t know how to carve to maintain the right speed or preform a hard stop on a dime aren’t even worthy of being considered novice snowboarders. As someone that has rode both snowboarding is far easier to control once you’re not a beginner than skiing. Skiers tend to be Jerrys or slowly zig-zagg the trails anyway
Douglas Montague no one wants to be a jerry, you imbeciles leave your gear laying all over the lodge, You guys cut by people like it’s a slalom course, Too top it all off you guys def get your fairy carvers to close to my precious board in the ski lines. Snowboards are the new age get used to it. WERE TAKING OVER PEASANT.
@@cargonomads4947 first and foremost, who the fuck cares what you use to slide down a hill. Second. Skiing is growing at many multiples faster than snowboarding. It isn't even close.
@@patriot2372 ur a troglodyte dude, if you cant control your board that just means youre ass at riding. get your facts straight before you talk shit or youre no better than the rest of the idiot skiers i see at my local resort. like are you really stupid enough to think that the people you see straightlining are any good at snowboarding? they obviously suck at it, since going on your edges to turn is literally one of the fundamentals, you can't really ride if you can't turn
this guy should not be riding anywhere near that fast if he can't avoid someone that's in sight as clear as day. this isn't about whether you're a skier or snowboarder, this is about being on the mountains and riding without control. this guy needs to know his limits and based off of this he is way out of his league to be going at such speeds
I disagree I think yes, it was the snowboarders fault, however it’s extremely difficult to pass someone on a narrow path when they are turning from side to side blocking the way
Edit: I’m tired of getting notifications stop responding if you’re a jerry
@@eddielaughlin6274 how tf is this narrow? the whole thing is banked too. the boarder had so many other lines than the one that involved knocking over an old man.
@Hello!!! k
@Hello!!! you are, but the person in front has right of way. you don't have eyes in the back of your head, so it's on the people going fast to stay in control and avoid those in front of them.
@Hello!!! you must be a fucking awful boarder.
the jerries are coming out of the woodwork here.
It's always the uphill person's responsibility to yield to the downhill person. Completely out of control riding
it depends, if the downhill person come out of nowhere, then it its the downhill's fault (not saying it was the case here)
It’s also up to the downhill not to cross into uphill riders line without looking up. Same as if you must always look uphill when starting down the trail. The snow boarder was trying to go around and the skier cut him off.
@@cycleoflife7331BULLSHIT! He wasn’t starting down the trail. And the boarder came from an adjoining trail, and was quite a distance behind him in the video and coming fast (and out of control). You will NOT find in any known responsibility code any language about not crossing into the uphill skiers line and having to look up. The only obligation to look up is when starting out on a trail or when entering a trail. SO, that doesn’t apply to the skier here. You don’t get to make up your own rules !!!!
You need to read the responsibility code because it’s reckless people like you who cause accidents.
For your education, rule #1 states “Always stay in control. You must be able to stop or avoid people or objects.”
Clearly, the boarder was out of control and couldn’t stop in time.
And that’s the ONLY rule that applies here.
PERIOD !!!!
@@heitorcorneliusYou’re correct that was not the case here. You need to look uphill when starting out or entering a trail. Other than that the entire responsibility falls on the uphill skier/boarder to be able to stop in time and avoid objects and people below him or her.
@@cycleoflife7331 nope. it's the uphill rider's responsibility not to put their line in any of the downhill rider's line, or even, not anywhere near downhill rider's proximity and allow them to have all the space they need,
The skier was turning like a normal person on slope.
the snowboarders looks like he's dead
good
@@jakobnovak7997 not good.
Skier obviously never had the wind knocked out of him with all that whining. Furthermore both parties are at fault, skier should’ve checked before making such long turns; especially on a narrow pass and snowboarder should’ve noticed the skier was a novice and the run was narrow.
@@brianf.9117 snowboarder lost control you can see how he canted. 100% blaming the snowboarder.
You are wrong. 100% guy from behind. No argument, well if you’re completely dependent on a phone to survive you might find fault with the wrong guy. Most device junkies believe that their devotion to the device takes precedence over anything. Hopefully you are simply wrong. Cheers! As far as overreacting I am not convinced at all.
Wonder how this turned out?
That skier got up and acted like one of the people that gets hit by a not moving car for insurance claims lmao. Fr tho hopefully everyone was all good
That's what happens when you can't catch your breathe
yeah blake got it spot on, if you’ve ever got in a collision like that you would know that he’s bot overreacting
@@blakevandam1328 al im gonna say if you get the wind knocked out of you, which i hwve many times throughtout my many years of hockey and snowboardings. Just dont try and yell or talk, every time you try and talk or make sounds you are robbing yourself of air. Just lay there and focus on breathing in the future
@@rmr5044 Because the whole thing is staged
The snowboarder was coming at him at the speed of a car and hit him straight on I think that would hurt pretty bad.
Edit: nvm I get what you mean now, the China crosswalk accidents lol. This definitely hurt though
Not about being a skier or snowboarder, one of the first things you learn is that you're responsible for the people in front of you because they can't see you . You have to make sure they won't move into your way and you have to make sure you're going at a controllable speed if you're coming from behind.
I tried to explain that to a couple of guy I have being hit from,but they insisted I should have checked behind before make a turn.
@@goavegas4874 Caveat on that is if you are merging or coming in from a side run. Then YES it's on you to look uphill to make sure you can safely enter the stream of ski/board traffic.
@@snoman71 Exactly., Killington one of my biggest gripe is their green circle run from top of Gondola cuts through 5 different blacks. The new skiers rarely look up.
@@andrewdinns1746 Then at the same time, the black runs are cutting across the green circle run. So if anything, the people on black should be aware of that and slow down given that they consider themselves as "expert" level, they should be able to avoid any person on a green run.
@@snoman71 Caveat to your caveat: When trails merge, BOTH should SLOW DOWN AND LOOK!!
This is in no way the skiers fault, if you ride at that speed its expected that you have at least some control or thought of how to avoid people - this guy did some quick turns but still not close to unpredictable
Everyone down mountain to you has the right of way, it's not a situational rule.
True for sure the snowboarders fault but at that speed it’s going to happen to everyone at somepoint
No said it was
nobody said it wasn’t haha
No one said it was the skiers fault, but man, hope they both good
The lack of description kind of makes this video terrifying. We have no idea what happened to these guys.
That’s what I’m saying
They kissed
@@benilakyes they did
The skier had two broken ribs. The snowboarder was properly groomed into the trail.
@@Youlikemysausage yooo 😂😂😂
That was the most compelling argument I have ever heard
The skier made a good point when he said “AAaaaAAAAAAaHhhhAaHHaaahHhahahHaaahaAAhhHhHahaAAAAAUUUUUUHHHHUAUUUUUUUHhhhauuh”
you spelled it wrong
The high pitch agony in between
Wow. I must have a lot of wax in my ears. All I heard was, “Hello, Jerry. My name is also Jerry.”
You guys are killing me 🤣🤣🤣
Ahahahahahaha
Sounds like the dude broke a rib, hope he’s alright
I think he just got the wind knocked out of him
@@iKlaSiicKoNii I can't speak for everyone, but when I get the wind knocked out of me my first thought is to breath, not make noise. It sounds like he's in pain.
@@FirstNameLastName-hahaha oi bruv can i get a bo'uh'oh'wo'ah
Sounds like he got the wind knocked out of him and he's being a over grown man baby about it
Thought the same
Skier: I’m DYING
Snowboarder: Dead
Cameraman: do nothing
@@douas_nimaand defenitely doesnt check the dead one or care😢
Im a snowboarder and this was obviously the snowboarders fault. No question about it this isn't about who was riding what it was just that the snowboarder hit the skier from behind its as simple as that.
The skier clearly was taking up the entire section and he already knew someone was coming in hot behind him, just go off to the side and let them pas
@@ggbooliano ya like fr the skiers stopping on a down hill slope to play Rock Paper Scissors or some shit...🤦♂️ and then going 5 mph carving the entirety of the line even if the snowboarder wanted to safely pass he’d have to slow down to there speed and still thread the needle bc skier isn’t in his own lane at all he gives zero room for any type of pass and snakes entire ski trail...I’m not surprised he got smashed and he shouldn’t have been surprised either...but he was
@@yosour6733 thats not at all how it works. As the up hill person, it is YOUR responsibility to avoid downhill traffic, no matter how slow they are or how wide their turns are. If you can't control yourself at speed, know when speed is ok or avoid an obstruction, maybe find another activity that you won't kill someone doing.
@@ggbooliano Nah man watch the video again. Filmer saw the boarder but no way the guy that got hit did. Sounds lame but downhill riders have the right of way and if you can't avoid them, then you are out of control. Imagine if it was a little child learning to ski. Woulda vaporized him! I love my straight lines but that boarder was sketchy as hell.
@@berniebauer6891 look like he had perfect control over his speed until a goop decided to waltz right into his path pally shoudlve stayed in the kiddo lane and not the fast lane
Girl : Are you ok?
Obviously he's not ok, he just got wrecked. The other one look dead.
He’s ok
The girl probably doesn't know what to do, I wouldn't either. Although the best course of action would be to ski to the bottom and call ski patrol
Put Ski Patrol phone # in your cell phone. Call at accident location
He's fine, no one who's actually badly hurt reacts like that.
@@monoralph1375 Nah screw that, there's every chance that two minutes after this everyone was back on their feet and riding. Don't waste ski patrols time unless you know for sure you need them.
This happened to me decades ago by a fellow skier. I was standing at the top of a hill and skier flew out of the tree from above me and his ski landed between my binding and my leg causing me to immediately be knocked over full force into ice dislocating my shoulder. When you are not expecting the collision from behind the body is simply not ready for the impact and the pain coupled with the breath knocked out of you is immense. All the skier said was "sorry dude. You OK?" No, I'm not F%*!king OK! In this video the boarder had lots of time to avoid this collision. It's not a boarder issue but a negligence issue.
Cool story bro
Not being ready for it is one of the safest things to happen. You don't want to be tense when you're taken out
Holy crap, skiers hit people on the runs too? I thought only snowboarders hit people. Sorry to hear about your shoulder hope its all good now.
wait if you were on top of a hill, how did he come from above you?? 🤔
Coming to a stop in the middle of a run is negligent. If you are going to stop on a run you stop on the side of it. You face up the hill watching for incoming skiers/snowboarders. When travelling/carving extremely slowly you don’t take up the whole run. I would have avoided this guy. But don’t act like this skier is without fault. The skier should be wearing a helmet too….
wow, that was a big collision. Hope you both were OK.
They both died.
@@AvgDadGolf I am your father.
@@AvgDadGolf for real bro?
@@sambasambasamba6931 obv he’s joking u thought that guy acting died rlly? Hahaha😂
@@sambasambasamba6931 no
Press f to pay respects.
Lol but seriously. Please don't blame Snowboarders in general. This boarder was an idiot with no respect for those around them. Seen skiers do it too.
as a boarder myself I don’t think he was blaming snowboarders here, he just said that this snowboarder was negligent (which is an understatement) like if a video said “stupid skier crashes into a crowd” that wouldn’t be blaming skiers in general
@@zmarc- sorry, I meant to say that "hopefully, no one blames boarders in general." I agree this guy was very negligent and deserves the title.
Agreed
@Reid Elson you joke but in the 90s it was real, skiers hated boarders with a passion and banned them from mountains
@Reid Elson real talk snowboarders were banned from mountains for quite awhile. And I know many older ski heads above 60 still talk as if what they do is criminal.
That can cause serious spine damage, I hope y’all are ok to this day. Be safe out there and respect the downhill skier/snowboarder
This is why Charlaw has the ski injury attorney billboards in I-70 in Colorado
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@@lefishe6869 Strong Man of the law XD
@@lefishe6869 frank azar is the car dude lol💪
And that's probably why the skier reacted like he did, he was already thinking of the lawsuit he could file.
lets not make this an argument between snowboarders and skiers, it doesn't matter which you do as long as your out there having fun. Now, I ski and board and in my opinion this is the fault of the snowboarder. Downhill always has right of way, the reason, well none of us have eyes in the backs of our head and we should be looking downhill. If the skier is taking a wide line (which is fine) then the snowboarder needs to slowdown until he can find a safe time and path to pass the skier, the skier has done absolutely nothing wrong here. I would add that the only time in my opinion uphill has right of way, is when the person downhill is stationary, in which instance they should check and wait for a safe time before moving off. People who have commented blaming the skier need to seriously think about the safety of others before hitting the slopes again. What might have been the outcome if the skier was a child??????
I’m a snowboarder and I agree 100%
I agree, as a snowboarder I find it very annoying when they take those big right and left turns, but that what makes skiing fun and us snowboarders just have to watch out more carefully
Couldn't have been better said
Another snowboarder here and totally agree, we all have a responsibility out there. Stay safe!
100% agree.
I don’t care who was responsible for the crash and don’t want to blame anyone. It’s just that I find it quite rude(to say the least) not to check up on the snowboarder who’s lying on the ground and not giving any signs of being conscious. And second thing…why was the skier not wearing a helmet..? Most of the times you need one because of situations just like this one.
FYI: I worked in a ski resort long enough to see and experience many crashes, mishaps and other stupidity that could(mostly)be completely avoided following the right approach to the winter sport(doesn’t rrally matter weather on skis, snowbords, ski bobs, bikes or wathever else you may use to bomb down the slopes)
Evidently they taught you to use parentheses at that job, too 😆 🤣 😂. In regards to the first part of your comment, that woman could've been experiencing mild shock, so maybe don't be so hard on her. Not everyone thinks logically in emergency situations, especially right after the incident. Plus, she may have given the guy muff to mouth resuscitation after the camera went off.
The ski resorts do post signs about the skier code. I think they should be more vocal day to day to people as they get on the chairs. Some dumbass people might not even read or get the code.
You didn't see him moving around in pain. He was awake. What did the other skirt do for any of them. So he should had skied down there and looked at him from a close distance also. The skier didn't do shit for anoyone
@Joseph Friesen that's such an ignorant way of thinking, you shouldn't think of "oh this is all his fault he can lay there and die for all I care" instead you should think "yeah its his fault but is he ok and what could be done to help both of them" don't be a dick, yes I know he cause the whole thing and is in the wrong, but that's such an asshole way of thinking.
@@Ghost-hf2xg If I were confronted with a medical emergency where I had to choose between helping a friend with unknown injuries and the person who hit him, I'd prioritize the friend every time. I'd be legally and morally obligated not to harm the unconscious boarder and to help him if expedient, but little else (and it would be more consideration than he'd shown the skier).
I would actually not make physical contact with the boarder. He's unconscious with a possible neck injury and I'd be very mad at him. Nothing good could come from that. Better to flag down some help or (if friend can be calmed down and told to sit down) ski really fast to the nearest lift and inform ski patrol of the accident.
U can clearly see the snowboarder try to slow down and catch his edge like a J3rry
yeah
@Noah Pierce lol
@Noah Pierce snowboarder took your girl huh?
@Noah Pierce learn how to spell idiot
@@joshgraikoski9567 They're also douchebags. Not all of them though.
Damn it, this is why they ban us snowboarders on mountains. The trail looks perfectly groomed. There was no excuse for that, even if you were speeding. Pathetic.
This has nothing to do with being a skier or snowboarder. A friend of mine got hit by a skier last week on a trail just like this, fell over and broke her wrist and the guy didn't even stop. So in this video it's a snowboarder but it's not like skiers never do this.
Guy was totally out of control and should not be going at that speed if he can't control it, easy as that
@@larsvaneynde4281 This is why snowboarders cant have things (by nice things I mean skiing at Alta)
That was 100% snowboarders fault in this case. Just saying, a skier has done the EXACT same to me. I was going slow and a skier came from behind and knocked me out cold. This whole, snowboarders are a problem mentality is BS. it’s just out of control riders that are the problem.
Fr, this skier vs snowboarder shit needs to end. We all agree on atleast 2 things 1: we love snow. And 2: we hate snakes and retards on the mountain
Glad I’ve never had it happen cuz I don’t ride slow
no shit
Skier purposely got in his way. The boarder initially dodged him then the skier cut back in front of him.
@@shsb2355 That’s not at all how this works, it’s always the responsibility of the skier/snowboarder who’s behind to not crash into the people in front of him. People are going to be turning/carving on the mountain, that’s not “cutting back in front”
he looked like he was aiming for him. totally out of control
Any person that's in front of you has the right of way. You have to yield to them. Doesn't matter who's on skis and who's on boards.
Agreed
Nobody:
Snowboarder: "yea I'm gonna send it on that green slope"
Only thing that surprises me is that he wasn't holding a selfie stick
Dunno if this was a green run, but yeah...pretty accurate lmao
Proficient rider and skier here. That snowboarder was way, way out of control. He's the reason Patroller's have to sit in the slow zones...
Indeed. Slow zone flags are meaningless if patrols do not enforce them. A good example is in Solitude near the Powderhorn lift. Skiers and boarders go away too fast in the slow zone area and I haven't ever seen a patrol there even I skied 39 days in Solitude this season.
30 year boarder here, he looked well under control until the novice skier cut right into his passing lane after he was all the way into a toeside carve. That said he should've been watching his speed better passing people in such a narrow section. I blame both of them
@@ST19859 Riders and skiers in front always have the right of way. Always. There is no "cutting in front" of someone. It is always a speed or space issue if you hit someone who turned in front of you.
Also, that skier's form would not suggest novice. Notice nice skidded turns, skies near touching, etc. This was not a novice by any means. Maybe not advanced or expert, but unlikely to be a novice.
slow zone: dodgeball with people, just get good at it before you do it
Snowboarder should have known the skier would make the turn to the right, seems like it’s a beginner that thinks speed is the most fun part
Exactly such a reckless snowboarder
When the snowboarder shows up in the picture at 0:11... even at that speed I'd be able to make a hard stop and avoid the crash. This dude has no control over his board whatsoever. I saw an attempt to slow down but that was way to off balance.
u have probably boarded longer than him no reason for him to be going that fast
ive gone 60 mph before and i have stopped pretty quick too- legs burn but can stop
I made a noise similar briefly following a bike accident. I was able to calm down and identify that I wasn’t so much making that noise as was the air coming out from my punctured lung! That looked like a very hard hit.
Beginner snowboarder was out if control, beginner skier was busy trying to get a selfy in the middle if a run. Thats resort skiing for you.
The person in front going at the lower velocity always has the right away, this was definitely the snowboarder’s fault
People who ski or snowboard from the top should look out and take responsibility for people who are lower than them. This was a mistake from the snowboarder.
Your responsibility code for all skiers/snowboarders:
1. Always ski in control. You must be able to stop or avoid people and objects.
2. People ahead of you have the right-of- way. You must avoid them.
The Snowboarder violated the first two rules of the responsibility code. The skier was not starting out or entering a trail and was under no obligation to look behind him for approaching skiers or snowboarders.
Many people are making up rules that don’t exist in any known responsibility code. In any case, you can expect to find the two above rules as coming first in any known responsibility code for skiing/snowboarding.
Please! if you go skiing or riding; KNOW YOUR LIMITS. I have been skiing for two decades and snowboarding for almost that long as well, I see stupid novices do shit like this almost every time I go (doesn't usually end up this bad, but sometimes can be far worse). Respect the limits of your abilities on the mountain, and if you choose to push them, only do so on open terrain that you are extremely comfortable riding on... If you don't you might be sending someone to the hospital, and you're lucky if that someone is you.
The skier cut the snowboarder off.. It's 100% the skiers fault.. Both of them were stopped mid slope, and then the idiot skied right into the path of the boarder.. I'm tired of entitled people blaming everyone but themselves.. If anyone knows who this snowboarder is, I'd like to help him file a lawsuit against the skier..
@@MarkLada I'm 100% with you on this, seems like a bunch of boomer skiers trying to get snowboards banned from ski hills again
@@MarkLada please refer to the international ski federation's rules of conduct before returning to the slopes:
1. Respect for others
A skier or snowboarder must behave in such a way that he does not
endanger or prejudice others.
2. Control of speed and skiing or snowboarding
A skier or snowboarder must move in control. He must adapt his speed
and manner of skiing or snowboarding to his personal ability and to the
prevailing conditions of terrain, snow and weather as well as to the density
of traffic.
3. Choice of route
A skier or snowboarder coming from behind must choose his route in such
a way that he does not endanger skiers or snowboarders ahead.
4. Overtaking
A skier or snowboarder may overtake another skier or snowboarder above
or below and to the right or to the left provided that he leaves enough
space for the overtaken skier or snowboarder to make any voluntary or
involuntary movement.
(cf. international ski federation's rules of conduct -- there are 6 more...)
That's why after 30+ years of skiing and snowboarding I ALWAYS wear an helmet and a body armour when I go downhill.
@@lucarossi8442 or just have some awareness or your surroundings, look over your shoulder now and again. like this for instance, if you see a snowboarder barrelling out of control down the slope, dony start slow weaving all over the run in front of him
Person downhill is allowed to aimlessly wander in any direction with their eyes closed and headphones on, still legally the fault of the person coming from higher up hill.
People online or on the hill can claim what should have been done is obviously, but when you pass by thousands of people a day 100-170 days a year, year after year you eventually come close or to a situation like this. Even if you accurately guess 99.999% of the time if the person in front is going to either keep going or abruptly turn a random direction, full time boarders and skiers pass by that many people in a year easy. All it takes is one bad guess one of the times you're not doing a school zone speed.
Where I'm from if a pedestrian gets hit crossing a highway it's the vehicles fault. At the same time if the pedestrian values their life or health they should look before they step foot on the highway and they should continually check if something new is coming. They definitely shouldn't be running around on the highway in random directions without looking.
When I'm on the hill I'm constantly checking for faster traffic coming up behind me, especially if I'm about to do an abrupt turn.
Holy ouch! That boarder deserves to be banned for the season from that resort and should be on the hook for that poor dude's urgent care visit. No excuse to be riding so recklessly.
I'm a snowboarder, for what it's worth.
I feel so bad for the skier
His pain seems fake lol
Not fake... more like over emphasized due to shock... but then again he was an older dude
@@CanadianBoardCrew he might’ve broke a rib based of where he was holding. Pretty common to make noises like this for the first 30seconds or so after breaking a rib or multiple
@@CanadianBoardCrew Exactly
@@CanadianBoardCrew who knows, I've seen plenty of people ready like that after getting the wind knocked out of them.
snowboarder's fault.. but when an accident occurs, the one that don't whine are most often the one you really need to help
Snowboarder here.
Problem with snowboarding is you can ride down the mountain improperly with no control or proper form. And that sums up most snowboarders. Ski’ing demands control and skill mastery
The skier had the right of way AND he did not make a sudden turn. Any uphill skier/snowboarder could predict where the skier would be as he passes him.
That boarder was out of control.
He has no business riding that fast since he can't be under control at that speed.
World's most unnecessary question at that point
she wanted to check if he wasn't just pretending to be in agony
Had the same thing happen to me in Snowshoe, WV on a slope called Widowmaker...the snowboarder hit me from behind...never saw him or heard him...he was about 14 years old and should not have been on that black diamond slope. Put a dent in my helmet...knocked me out momentarily. I ended up with a compound fracture of my thumb where the edge of his snowboard hit me...also bent one of my ski poles 90 degrees...his dad had the nerve to yell at me like it was my fault...while I was bleeding all over the snow...then when his son realized he had a broken arm...which was bent like an L shaped pretzel...dad said, "your arm is fine..." lol... Ski patrol showed up and gave me the father's information in case I wanted to talk to a lawyer...I didn't...hope they learned something from that...
You really did good. By ducking the kid over with his stupid mistake you would have created an evil mean young kid. Hopefully he learned his lesson which I believe after a huge collision he surely did
I love snowshoe. My favorite slope is wherever there is a waffle hut located on their. Lmao.
@@hvacexplained9341 snowshoe very fun
@@leaf4836 : I was down for “Wisp” all day today “2-20-22” in DeepCreek Maryland. It’s a shame a lot of snow is melting but there was quite a few runs open. had fun.
It was prob your fault lmaooo
Skier: Screaming in pain
Girl: “Are you ok??”
What scares me the most are the comments.
I've been skiing for 57yrs and riding for 25yrs, and in this case, the skier is 100% innocent, and the rider is 100% at fault. The skier is not taking up the whole slope, he's making regular-sized and reasonable turns on the right 2/3rds of the groomed area. He's crying because he was completely blindsided, and probably has broken ribs if not worse.
The rider is going way too fast, and makes a bad/stupid decision to pass on the right, seems to have 2nd thoughts (watch it in slo-mo) and catches his edge and clouts the skier. He, at least, has time to prep for the collision. Just an odd decision to go to the right. He passes the camera person on the left, and she's behind the downhill skier, so why the boarder decides to pass the skier on the right is just and odd and a bad choice. He should have stayed completely to the left where there was tons of room.
Of course, he's just laying there thinking about his future. He's likely fine, because he had time to prep for the collision, unlike the skier.
The comments about the boarder being more injured, and the skier taking up the whole slope are just crazy, when the video evidence is right there. Makes you wonder about people's skill level and makes me even more concerned about safety on the slopes. I've gotten 51 days in this year, and I wear a padded backpack, which would help in a blindside hit from behind. It's crazy out there even when there's no one on the slopes!
Slow down if you see someone zig zagging up ahead. If you aren't experienced enough to quickly avoid obstacles, then you shouldn't be going that fast.
just dont zig zag like an idiot. thats how 90% of collisions happen
@@isaackst-louis7678 dont zig zag? I am confused on where you been boarding lol. Just like the guy said before you. If ya see someone zagging wide, keep your distance. They cant look behind as easy as you look forward.
@@TheGoonSquadd nono, not dont zig zag. I said dont zig zag like an idiot
@@isaackst-louis7678 Good point! ya did say like an idiot. And I can confirm thats the reason I stay away from Green run's alot of idiot zig zagging. Blue's and up have more control with there zig and there zag.
@@isaackst-louis7678 The only way that beginner and intermediate skiers can stay controlled is to zigzag. Would you rather they just straight lines the hill completely out of control? Because that's the only alternative.
The little “WOOOO” by the snowboarder has me dead 🤣
I got hit from behind by an Aussie snowboarder at Lake Louise, years back. I appeared to be alone on the trail,( it really was pretty empty),and the next thing I saw was a beautiful blue ski. I didn’t even hear him so I didn’t tense up. That’s what saved me from any injury( I was 50 when it happened). He screamed” are you okay”? I assured him I was but pleaded with him to slow down(because I knew he didn’t have the skills). He was mortified, the poor kid.
Lady filimg: "R u ok?"
Skiier: " AuAuhahUHHHHHHhhhhhuah
Snowboarder: *knocked out
Im actually really worried for the guy
He was probably high or drunk.
@@skiresortviews733 how do you know it? xd 😂
If I saw a snowboarder do that to my dad he wouldn't leave that mountain. Would love to hear some backstory/update here.
cringe
cringe
Relax tough guy
you're a tool.. should've had the sense to wait. mountain already knocked him tf out what would you even do
If most of you guys pay attention to what you watch instead of just put your 2 cents in, the skier was swaying back and forth the snowboarder tried to go to the side to avoid it and the skier was the one who was at fault for not thinking about someone else trying to have a good time. The way he is acting shows it he’s at the age he should just lay there if hurt 🤦🏼♂️entertain the clowns u become the circus
Its not the skiers fault, but he still shouldn't cut back and forth across the whole run like that
Small track. You're allowed to turn. Snowboarder was more like a snowball
That is the universal sound of "Im not ok" and its the same in every language........ Broken ribs and a punctured lung later
I can't tell if someone's hurt or being overly dramatic.
I have the feeling the snowboarder thought the skier was going to stay to the left side
I watched this from the chair lift hope you're doing well. That was not fun to watch hope that guy gets some kind of reprimand, heard him doing the yahoo yell before he hit you, which is why I looked up and saw it.
@@derekbell5333 how do you want pm on ytb lol
As a skier I often look back and that save me for a lot of trouble
That's what everyone should do if they care about their well being.
You shouldn't. If you're looking behind you then you're increasing the likelihood of you causing an accident, something I've seen happen many times. The only time you should look uphill is if you're crossing the slope. If everyone just avoided everyone who's below them, which is easy if you're riding within your ability, then there would never be any accidents.
@@ddandymann for example: if I go slow and the person behind me faster is good to look back ,to let him go and not be in his way, i think is very similar to driving a car
@@Darius17090 And what if someone comes in front of you in that time? Or you react to the person behind you and hit someone in front of you that you weren't aware of because you weren't looking? The ski code exists for a reason, because if everyone sticks to it it is literally impossible for accidents to occur, the issue is people not following it.
@@ddandymann if you put "what if" in front of everything that can happen you don't ski, for me safety is very important and looking back one second for me work's very well
Skier acting like he owns the place. Comes to a complete stop in the middle of a narrow trail and then weaves around at a slow speed.
You can go whatever speed you want. Every skier should practice maneuvering at different speeds. It's not about going as fast as possible if you're out there to learn a new trail or get a feel for some new equipment.
That boarder needs his pass pulled! That reckless kind of riding is unacceptable!
andre tarp -Listen moron--I started skiing in 1980. I once skied too fast into a trail merge--Ski Patrol stopped me and pointed out the danger. I have never repeated that. I switched over to Snowboarding 4 years ago and was crashed into by an out of control rider--I lost 4 weeks of work. I ride according to the code and am constantly on the look out for jackasses like the guy in this video. Riding is a blast but carelessness and cavalier attitudes can ruin a day and could cost someone thier way of life. All I am saying, think beyond yourself and the moment. Read the code and follow it.
He needs in particular to pay for the damage (pain, I read broken bones) he caused. Thats worth many skiing passes...
Lightningchase1973 Yes, I totally agree--The "at fault" rider or skier should bear the financial burden for the damage they cause. A lost lift ticket is step 1, only step 1.
Check Colorado & Utah law:
Skiing is not a contact sport and being blindsided by another skier or snowboarder is NOT an inherent risk under either Colorado or Utah law. Colorado law presumes that the uphill skier or boarder is at fault in a skiing accident, because the overtaking skier has the primary duty to avoid the skier below. In Utah, skiers are required to exercise “reasonable care” to avoid collisions. Usually, this also means the uphill skier must yield to skiers below.
Thus, one of the key issues in any skier/skier case is who was the uphill or overtaking skier. The nature of the injury often gives substantial clues as to how the ski accident occurred, the speed at which the skiers were skiing, and the relative angles to each other.
All skiers are under a general duty to ski cautiously, within their ability and to maintain control and a proper lookout. If a skier fails to ski in control or to maintain a lookout, the skier is negligent and responsible for the injuries and damages that result from the collision.
Skier was taking up the lane snowboarder was trying to slow down but he couldn't predict where the skier was going because the skier was curving to wide. It's definitely the snowboarders fault but the skier shouldn't be curving that wide
The snowboarder had the responsibility to divert to the ungroomed snow off of the trail for safety, or to plot his route in relation with others properly. He failed at both.
Actually, after making a pause, you have to look up the slope to see if somebody is coming before entering the slope. They should have let the snowboarder pass.
You can blame the snowboarder for Not having control at that speed but when your not riding, you should give space to those riding, especially in such a narrow slope. Those two sikers were just entering unexpected and in the wrong moment.
Those are quite common rules. At least here in Switzerland.
I'm a snowboarder, got hit the same way by a skier last weekend, and it was brutal! It's the speed.
same thing happened to me when I was snowboarding, only I was in front and the Skier plowed into me like a missle, he was out cold! If you are riding you only need to pay attention to who is in front of you I should'nt have to turn around and watch my back.
The worst thing is how unnecessary this was. The boarder had such a long view to either keep to the right or slow down significantly
Speaking as a snowboader myself....the snowboarder in the vid was completely at fault in the collision. That boarder got no control, going at speed that was way beyond their skill....just so much stupidity
He did have control, what happened was he went to turn right as the skier was going left, right when the boarder went right the skier turned right. The snowboarder then tries to stop but catches his edge causing him to go into the skier.
@@UncagedTommy420 I thought it was pretty obvious that the skier _could_ (and would) turn right. If you're putting yourself in a situation on an easier trail like this where you have to guess what the other person is going to do in order to not run into them, you're probably doing something very wrong.
@@kota2223 shouldn’t you always be making guesses/reads on where people are going so you don’t run into them?
@@UncagedTommy420 oh for sure. And if you can't you need to scale things back.
I wish these videos would provide a little information for curious people like myself. What were the injuries for example?
And where is this?
Skiers don’t know this but this move is actually taught at snowboard school. Works every time!
I've never seen a person in so much pain get up immediately, walk up a hill, knee down, and then start looking around as if to see if anyone is looking lol.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@D2M5 yes moaning and/or screaming could happen when winded but you have to admit this is outrageous. My man was definetely trying to get some big money out of this lol 😂. Unfortunately his acting skills are not oscar worthy
lol the dude even kinda looks at the camera lady like “ stop filming the unconscious guy and look at me instead for legal purposes”
Shock is a hell of a drug
The skier likely had the wind knocked out of him and that feeling can be pretty scary to someone who hasn't experienced it before.
you cant yell like that when the wind is knocked out of you, all you can really do is grunt. i know from experience(s).. very many of them
@@mikefoster6127 Dude I know what it sounds like to have the wind knocked out of you, it sounds exactly how he sounds. a low, monotone "heave."
@@imaxdigital7052 he was screaming and attempting to talk, breathinng innn and out and runninng arounnd is not somethinng you do when the winnnd is knocked from you. he was being a karen
Snowboarder fault. He/she needed to slow down or go around.
If you don't want to be a victim of this kind of crashes, look up to see if any idiots are bombing down your way before continuing your run in the middle of what appears to be a narrow run.
Dude!
That skier can speak wookie!
The person in front has the right of way. It's that simple, it looks like the snowboarder was coming too fast to adjust. The one that was hurt sounded like he was instructing the one with the GoPro. GoPro sounded like a kid. Does anyone know what happened to these two?
Some people don't seem to understand the "yield to downhill" rule, but it works the same way as cars. If you run into someone/something from behind, it's always your fault. It doesn't matter how they got there or what they were doing. The sole exception might be that guy that wandered onto a closed race course, if you've seen that video. Blaming the downhill person is equivalent to blaming the tree if you happen to hit one of those.
This is 100% on the boarder. In this case the snowboarder was clearly not in control. If you “know the code” it’s your responsibility to be in control and avoid downhill riders and objects. Silly, also. There was plenty of terrain open to choose, if he was a better rider, and had been in control. I’ve been snowboarding for 20+ years and have also been an instructor btw.
EXCEPT for the fact that the skier using almost the full width of the run is a bit of an issue. If you're on a narrow run and using 70-80% of it, you're making it hard-er up hill to avoid you. Yes you can slow down, but there's a bilateral aspect to this to at least make it easier for people to avoid you. Skier isn't completely off the hook on this one.
@@MattsBaseballWorld I understand the perils of trying to make an argument in youtube comments. Please understand also that this is not a boarder vs. skier thing for me. However, as a PSAI-AASI certified instructor, it's my job to make people aware of the rules. The rule (that could cause you to lose your pass, or even put you in legal liability for the injury of others) is:
*"It is your responsibility to ski/ride in control, and avoid downhill skiers and riders." * Full stop.
The only other rule in the responsibility code that puts ANY liability on a downhill rider is that "one should not stop where they cannot be seen from above." If the uphill rider or skier can SEE you, it's 100% their responsibility to avoid you.
Downhill skiers and riders may be doing stupid things! This includes taking up the whole "run", or even sitting down in the middle of the slope. You have to slow down enough to control yourself and pass them cleanly with at least 10' of space. If ski patrol had witnessed this collision, they would have pulled the boarder's pass, and both parties would have exchanged information as in an auto accident for insurance purposes. The analogy of being rear-ended in a car applies to skiing as well. 99% of liability is automatically assigned to the person behind. While it's technically "nice" and "good form" to allow people to pass, it's not the rule. Skiers and riders need to know this, and behave accordingly.
All of that said, this was not a narrow run! (An example of a narrow run is when you have a cliff on one side and a high wall of snow on the other.) All of the WHITE STUFF in the video is perfectly ridable terrain. AVOID. CHOOSE ANOTHER LINE. GO AROUND. If the boarder insisted on staying on a single width of cat track groomer, he should not have been going that fast for his skill level. The whole of the terrain in the video is perfectly ridable. That boarder could have used any of the snow around to avoid the skier. That's why I said it was "silly". The boarder was riding above his ability and caused a needless collision, and possible permanent injury.
@@shokojimhollingsworth3940 NO worries, youtube arguments is where world peace will be decided in the future.
Kudos on PSIA, I'm CSIA/ASA-CSC, I think we have close to the full alphabet covered.
There's just a difference between right & hurt, and adapting & safe.
The skier is completely right to be able to ski wherever he wants, yet, the result is he's crying like a 5yr old.
A smarter skier, would realize space is limited, with respect to novice/int skiers. Advanced skiers/boarders, no problem, they'll go up on the right or have fun on the left of this run. This snow boarder couldn't do that... such that idiot met up with the skills gap.
@@MattsBaseballWorld Totally agree. As a skilled and "defensive" skier/rider, I'm also looking back uphill to make sure I'm not about to get bodied by outa control kids like this. I was only talking about liability here. It's always best to get out of the way if you notice something like this developing! (Which is why I'm usually way off in the trees somewhere anyway....)
@@MattsBaseballWorld you are wrong. downhill person ALWAYS has the right of way. they can take up the whole slope if they want.
Looks like the snowboarder was expecting the skier to keep going to the left and they attempted to avoid by going right. The immediate change in direction with the skier threw him off guard, snowboarder looks as if tried to stop but looked down behind, caught their heel edge and went flying into the skier. They should have stayed high on the left and passed (even at speed) without incident. Guess no outcome to what happened?
Or should have just slowed down. If you don't have enough room to safely pass, you should just slow down until it is safe to do so.
Also wasnt an immediate change in direction, he was following a predictable pattern and anyone with a brain knows that if someone zigzags 5 times they are probably gonna do it a 6th
Every skier carves to control speed. That's how it's always been. You shouldn't straight line a trail unless there's no one there or you're skilled enough to quickly stop.
The person who actually thinks that its the skiers fault, should never EVER get into a car!!!!!
Funny, because if you run through a yield sign and get hit by a car that you should have yielded to... then you caused the accident, bc you didn't yield the right of way.
Apline Responsibility Code: "BEFORE starting downhill or merging onto a trail, look uphill and YIELD to others"
all caps mine*
@@coachmatt6735 what are you talking about?? You always look what's in front of you and keep a safe distance !!
@@dimis2140 if you step off a curb, in front of a bus when its descending a snowy hill, then you caused the accident. Same logic applies to cutting off an uphill skier. We are obligated to look uphill and yield to people above us. That is the specific rule when starting downhill.
The Alpine Respondibility Code specifies exactly this. I quoted it above. People are allowed to ski and ride fast. Thst's why some of us go. No one can't stop on a dime, just like that bus on the hill. Accidents happen when people misunderstand the rules... like when people refuse or neglect to yield the right of way when they are required to.
@@coachmatt6735 The skier in front has priority. The skier skiing behind another in the same direction must keep sufficient distance between himself and the other skier so as to leave the preceding skier enough space to make all his movements freely. ... This rule applies even when overtaking a stationary skier!
@@dimis2140 In normal cicumstances, you're right. If everyone was on course from the top, without stopping, you'd be right.
But the fact that these people were stopped and pulled to the side gave them an obligation to look uphill and yield to the rider uphill of them before dropping back into the narrow, bottlenecking piste.
Google this image: Alpine Responsibility Code. #4 clearly states "Before starting downhill or merging onto a run, look uphill and yield to others". I'm not making it up. 40+years on the slopes. 31 years riding. I know the rules.
The bottom line is that this accident doesn't happen if the skiers properly observe this rule and yield the slope to the rider who was on course, above them.
I don’t think I’ve ever actually hear a grown man cry until now.
He's fighting to get air into his lungs. Thst's what it sounds like. The very defintion of "got the wind knocked out of him." Probably finished the day fine. Possible rib injury.
@@coachmatt6735 No, no it absolutely does not sound like that. Hes crying like a complete pussy and its pathetic. Even with a broken bone you dont cry and wail like a fucking 2 year old.
This is exactly why I have trust issues on the slopes and avoid going on weekends.
I've skied for over 30 years, never been hit from behind.
@@ryan39584 That's crazy! I was hit in my send year. Given I was learning and going slow but there was PLENTY of room and the guy should have been able to go around.
Obviously snowboarder ultimately at fault because of speed and has the ability to foresee what is below. But, (just a question) is it reasonable for a skiier to do S-turns going side to side across the entire downhill path as if nobody will want to pass at even a slightly faster rate? On a busy slope, does everyone uphill have to hold up their run so the slower downhill skiier can use the entirety of the run without leaving room for others to pass? I don't know the answer.
What busy slope? Those three were the only people on the slope! Talk about delusional.... you see things that just aren't there so you have something to argue. I'd guess that you also have Trump Derangement Syndrome!
Nobody is saying you cannot pass. This is something else you've made up just to argue. If you want pass a car on the highway and another is in the way, are you allowed to ram off the road? No you aren't. But, here you think that's allowed.
Folks.... this is what happens with common core education. These children can no longer think things through with any critical thinking.
when jerry's collide. but really that snowboarder was a turd.
That skier definitely played soccer at one point.
It's the one making no sounds or movements that you should check on first. Not the one screaming and ambulant
This happened to me when I was 11 years old. I was minding my own business night skiing with my dad on blues squares and a snowboarder hit me and put me in the hospital with a concussion and two contusions.
snowboarder moment fr
@@Ak-db9zc no it is a retard moment, not a snowboarder moment.
@@Ak-db9zcnope, this is just general riding responsibility. Skiiers have done the same thing just as many times
snowboarders are always at fault@@PappyP
@@Ak-db9zc Even after two years we boarders never stop getting discriminated against 😢
That snowboarder couldn't board
That man can really whoop. That said, skiers can be very tricky to predict. He was in the middle of the run and looked as though he was going left then he swooped right just as the boarder pivoted right. I've seen this happen on the hill many times. Had a skier do this to me at high speed (I was on a board) but I was the one down hill.
i love how snowboarders always blame skiers but it always seems like the boarder carelessly carves right into them...
Fuc snowboard
The skiiers were stopped on the skiers right of a narrow patch of groomed. Then they both merged together, and proceded directly across the trail to the far skiiers left. They essentially obstructed the entire trail, two skiiers, making erratic direction changes, instead of proceding directly straight on fall line of the cat-track. Because of the erratic, entitled nature of their lines, the snowboarder had no clear safe lane... they blocked them all. He tried desperately to shoot the gap between them, but the skiier turned back into his path at the moment of impact.
You'd have to be an idiot with zero experience on the moubtain to think that 100% of the blame for this accident falls on the rider. He did his absolute best, and was f*cked over by a couple of entitled jerks who wanted to schuss down a narrow track and occupy it all.
@@coachmatt6735 there's at least 5 full seconds between the skiers starting to move and the collision. Nothing about what they did was "erratic". The boarder out ran his skill.
@@counterfit5
-They were stopped on a trail where they may not have been visible from above, as the responsibility code indicates they should not have done.
-They started downhill without looking uphill, as the responsibility code obligates them to do.
-Because they did not look uphill before starting downhill, they were unaware of the rider who was already on course at speed, and so did not yield right-of-way to the rider as the responsibility code obligates them to do.
Pretty cut and dried. If they had never stopped, it would have been the riders fault, and his responsibility to avoid skiers below him already underway. But because they stopped, they assumed a responsibility to not start downhill into someone's path who was already underway. They did not observe that responsibility and as a result they caused a collision. End of story.
@@coachmatt6735wdym erratic turns he was slowly moving to the right when the guy hit him and and the snowboarder turned right into him
My lady got smoked by a boarder from behind this past spring. The guy asked her if she was ok and ghosted before she could even answer. The edge of his board got her on the forehead. Luckily she was wearing a helmet. She’d be scalped or dead. Her arm is still messed up. People can be pretty shitty
It was the responsibility of the boarder to be in control. The skier had the rite of way as he was in front. Snowboarders have a blind spot and they need to constantly turn the head to observe others.
Snowboarder: if I don’t move, maybe they won’t notice I’m here……
When you've never had the wind knocked out of you till you were 45 years old
*when you break a rib
that old dude got wrecked by some kid thats probably 1/4 his age. getting your rib broke in that situation really sucks at that age i bet. if the snow boarder broke a wrist or rib theyde ride off to get help. that old dude is probably gonna be taken off on a snowmobile.
Bro the Snowboarder is unconscious
@@ellietny3238 seems like consequences of his own actions to me..
You do realize that you're more likely to die from a head injury than a broken wrist right.
@@supermerderer Don't be surprised if he doesn't rise and help the dude then if he can't even stay awake himself, lol.
Also, bad stuff happens to everyone, and people make bad decisions. I'm sure he regretted it after making an unintentional mistake and hopefully learns from it...if he lived.
Except he didn't get his rib broken, no one reacts like that to a broken rib, the typical reaction is to lie on the ground desperately trying to breathe.
skier was in pain but snowboarder died on the spot
I am a stamp collector and I can tell you this is the snowboarder's fault!
It’s not
Skier was taking up the hole track snowboarder tried to doge the skier but because he was taking up the hole track skier went into the snowboarder
@@Bleeper660 bro it’s obv the snowboarders fault, snowboarders mind: hmm, I can either go around him, nah let’s just turn right into him.I hate boarders
Lmao 😂
@@theftgamingroblox4085both are kinda stupid tho, skier takes up whole track, snowboarder doesnt know how to dodge
1st mistake being stopped on that narrow ass trail. Saw the boarder and tried to beat him to the spot. Maybe look up hill before unneeded S turns or be courteous let someone else pass
skiiers never look uphill
person downslope has right of way, so no
@@smiler0charon Person downhill has the right away in a straight situation, but when your zig zagging it's proper hill etiquette to keep either the whole left lane open or the whole right lane open for passing, you can clearly see the boarder thought the right was open to pass, then the skier cut across both lanes. Not only is this the skiers fault for hogging the road but he would be kicked off the big hill where I'm from for not having proper etiquette because the big hill is ment for speed so if your going slow then keep an open lane at all times 🤷♂️
@@user-sb8qd8yd1t are you fucking kidding me?! remind me not to visit "the big hill where [you're] from."
@@smiler0charon Np if you can't do something simple like keep a lane open then we don't want you there
Why is this a skier vs boarder discussion? One person was downhill of the other doing safe controlled turns - the other was "travelling" fast and clearly unable to give way to the downhill person = bad accident - no question the person uphill was in the wrong - as someone with EMT training it seems as tho the result was a bad case of having the wind knocked out of him but hopefully (luckily??) it wasn't much much worse.
Your analysis is exactly right concerning fault. I am the man in the red coat, and had the wind knocked out of me. My then 8 year old son is who recorded the collision with his helmet mount GoPro. My injuries were two broken transverse process in my back. Recovery took a few months, with the help of physical therapy.
@@hoodriverbrudu glad you recovered, hope it's complete.
That guy was moaning like he’d never experienced any physical injuries during his 90 years of living
wind knocked outta ya plus broken ribs does that to a person
I was knocked out before and actually, the noises that came out were involuntary. It took me a while to realize what I was hearing came from me and to stop it.