MH4U: Understanding Exhaust
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2015
- Time to take a detailed look at what Impact Damage is and what Exhaust in particular does. Grab a Hammer or Horn and try it today!
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Toothbrush lance should be a thing.
O lawd here comes the bots
One extremely important aspect of exhaustion is that it prevents the monster from enraging until the monster recovers enough stamina to stop drooling. It also prevents Gore Magala from entering its frenzy mode. This is especially noticeable with Chaotic Gore Magala, which is brutally crippled by exhaustion--not only will it spend most of its time standing still, trying to spit virus clouds but failing, but when it comes out of exhaustion, it will roar three times in a row as it turns on all its powered-up states at once, letting you deal a huge amount of damage to its head if you have HG Earplugs or guard/counter AED the roars with a charge blade.
+Celestial Spark That's a good tip! I might want to bring a Hunting Horn to my Chaos Magala hunts then...
+Celestial Spark and if you don't have this and are kinda bad with evading you're screwed (if it really activates all modes, frenzy, rage, etc)
Lol now I want a toothbrush lance
Stun and Exhaust are both aspects of a thing called BEING BEATEN IN THE FACE.
Or just being smacked around with great concussive force, really. No wonder those big ass hammers can knock the wind out of monsters
Boy I bet that lance's sharpness is Pearly White!
Also I had no idea about the little lance damage trivia. Holy shit will I never stop learning new things about this game? I HOPE NOT! Hell I even knew about exhaust but STILL got schooled on the numbers. Wow, I had no idea they recover THAT much when eating and specially when pinning! Great Video!
Pearly white sharpness. Nice pun. The PERFECT way to put oral hygiene and MH together.
Gaijin, you might want to add an annotation next to "Exhaust Damage Up" saying the English name of the skill (Stamina Thief). I was a little confused when you were talking about it and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
+RandomNPC Shoot thanks for the note! I'll annotate it tomorrow
+Lux Sandre +Tamryu Gaijin said that it gives small (when full ultra hit just 25 exhaust that's low, the stun is good though) and sadly, never use ultra on sleeping monster, Ultra is 5 small blasts, so on sleeping monster instead of 15 impact phials, you only get 7 impact phial worth of damage)
Tigrex will absolutely exhaust himself if you play keepaway and dodge his charges. Being far away from him triggers his charges, so he never stops. He's pretty quick to run off for a snack, but it's a golden opportunity for free damage if you're soloing him as a gunner. Even moreso if you bring exhaust ammo/coatings.
The editing has really stepped up :D. Can't wait to see those MHX vids in a month!
+Cr0 xx Thanks, I am trying to play around with more effects and stuff I'll be more consistent in stuff in later vids, though.
+gaijin hunter yea the editing is really good 😀
+gaijin hunter will you be doing a mhx playthrough when it comes out?
+Carrie Winters he said something about that in one of his guild box vids. i think he said he won't do a playthrough playthrough, meaning he won't be playing the the singleplayer in a series of part 1, part 2, part 3, and so on, but make consistent vids on it. i think he'll just be making a bunch of vids for fun, not focusing on any specific thing in a series, unless damage calculation is wayy different or something, then you know he'll make a few vids in a row on it. like he did with 4u. happy hunting. :3
mark johnson makes sense ;3
First! (So you don't have to)
genius
Man your always 3 steps ahead
Thank you
Damn I fucking remember when doing this was a thing
It's amazing how much more confident your voice sounds compared to your older videos. The quality of your videos is only getting better.
Stamina palicos are probably the best means of inflicting exhaust. Don't need to use a specific weapon or worry about skills and you get dash juice effect out of them so it's a double win, especially if you're solo hunting (they're also real bros and give you the dash juice whenever you mount a monster).
here is a better setup idea stamina cats and the "pastierie suit"(Baker suit from the seregios boat mission episode) because it gets a stamina bonus whenever a "food" is eaten
Your daughter's "Happy hunting" was the coolest thing ever. When I have kids, I hope they'll also like the games I like.
When I have kids I hope they get their shit rocked by Plesioth
You have kids yet?
@@LucinaIRL Nobody should make them untill all of the current s*^t is cleared
@@anomalocaris2593 Fair.
@@LucinaIRL But then again that might just be impossible
I've been testing exhaust with my bow for a while and having so much trouble seeing if it's as effective as I'd like it to be.. So this was a big help thanks... It's been hard enough coming up with really good armor sets for low/high rank for the bow but after seeing this and taking other stuff into account I think I know what two sets I can work on to be really effective.
Keep up the great work!
Damn gaijin your editing skills have improved a lot! Great work!
God damn, the editing on your videos have become amazing! Nice work there pal
you put so much effort in your videos. keep it up man. I genuinely look forward yo your videos :)
Awesome video! I'm a bow user and exhaust is easily my favourite coating when using a spread shot or rapid shot bow, speeding up the fatigue state as well as getting those stuns allows me to be hyper aggressive especially when packing a power bow. It seems to pair well against certain monsters who love to spew as many projectiles as possible once you have some distance between yourself and them, once they're fatigued a dash juice, power coating and ideally a power bow can cut the hunt time way down from my experience.
Love your editing.
Toothbrush Lance confirmed.
Most adorable happy hunting ever. First an awesome video, then a heart warming voice.
You add my day!
The new style-y stuff looks great Gaijin! Great info I found the video super helpful! (P.S Grisaxe with Honed Blade set XD)
Fantastic video, always a pleasure to watch. Learned a lot about exhaust as well which was always a bit of a grey area for me! :)
Your editing has really improved and I love it and OMG your daughter is so cute!
It only takes a few seconds to notice if your daughter is with you. Your voice is much softer and happier^^ Thanks for the video, I especially liked the list about how much stamina you can expect when you're doing a G-rank or HR quest. Awesome editing, btw!
great tips, thanks :-)
that's really cleared it up
recently Ben using Sergio's bow & seahorse harp
which i think can use exhaust both great bows to use especially with star knight gunner good focus skill & others would have to check
a toothbrush as a weapon? what do you do with it? clean the teeth of monsters to death
Haha
I hear you can do some serious damage to your teeth by over brushing them.
I really do love the HH. Having a good stun combo of x a repeat, then the best exhaust in the game with x or a and forward slam is fantastic. Though the damage/exhaust combo being only useful on bigger mons where your teammates are least likely to run in front of you during your combo.
Next Gen Editing!!!
Always apurriciate the videos boss! =]
Got into the hunting horn becase of GHunters videos, and I have really enjoyed it, it's really fun, if any of you have not tried it I really encourage you to give it a go!
im a long time mh and i love how i learn new things about the game all the time
I love the toothbrush lance. After you poke a rathian in the eyes with it, you can brush their toe nails.
That's really cool for Lance/GL regarding damage. I never knew that!
as a hammer user the guide so so useful thanks Gaijian!
Man, thanks for this video. I had NO idea how this stuff even worked.
cutest outro ever *-*
really appreciate the extract effects in the vid. try not to go overboard though. :D thanks for the lesson! i'm really excited for the NA version of MHX!!!
This opens up a a lot of doors for me,I've been practicing with the Hunting Horn solo recently since I've been neglecting it (I pretty much focused on using the new weapons,CB and IG) but it used to be my main use along side the Gunlance (Which I'm also practicing with because of neglect) since they we both my mains in MH3U.
I didn't know how powerful my 3rd note slam was. O.O
Thanks for the info Gaijin, just recently trying out the HH. I really suck with it (idk if it's for me, it's so slow!) but it's good to know about the exhaust stats.
ive loved using the exhaust switch Ax so much
Love your vid's keep the great work :D
please do more Monster Feature, i think its really good. Plus nice editing, looks fresh :D
I have a lot fun with CB, my girlfriend using HH, and my two buddies rocking punish draw LS and Hammer.
The stunning frenzy is beautiful. . .
Although most things don't get to last very long, at least not long enough to get exhausted more than twice per round.
Love those effects :)
Bethorned Dystopia, limit removed, Load up.
4 level 1 AND 2 exhaust shots each. Actually surprisingly powerful with the right set.
wow, that was quite informative. could you do a video about the rage mode? to me it still seems kinda random. how is it triggered? how long does it last? is there a way to influence it?
have to agree, the editing is really nicely done! ohhh i wish the brachydium armor had a better skill than heavy hitter T_T
Added Note : while IG do get the punish draw bonus exhaust and stun damage the impact type kinsects do NOT cause exhaust damage to monsters but DO cause Stun damage. Kiranico's Motion Value chart puts the Insect's Stun attack at 40, which is significant considering that kinsects can attack at a distance over and over again with little risk to the hunter. I have stunned almost every monster I've hunted just because the head is usually the place you get the red extract.
Although I would like to note that I've seen monsters get exhausted multiple times per hunt even when I'm using IG alone with my Palicoes. My Ace has an impact weapon which is likely how its happening but i have no source to reference damage calc and motion values for Palicoes.
hahahaha, the lance in the beginning x
+Dani Wiedemann get this noticed. XD i hope people didn't miss it. i want to shank some monsters with a toothbrush.
+mark johnson It should be a DLC weapon for fighting Yamatsukami if they add him to MHX.
+jinthewindmaster420 Yamatsu is already confirmed for MHX
+Victor Ritz No he's not.
Pit DarkAngel
it'd be cool if he was. since amatsu is back. but no. there's been nothing said about yamatsu. not yet anyway.
Nice Editing!
Oh , I didn't know that fact about lances. Niiiice. Reminds me when I got kicked from a room because, according to the owner of the room, lances do "so little damage".
Was that your daughter at the end?
Yep :)
Thanks a lot for the video and your daughter's voice was so cute it made me laugh :)
Now i've a question: for the bow is the "8 exaust for each one of the attacks" referred to each arrow or to the whole attack (8 exaust divided in 4-5 arrows)? And is the charge level and the distance important as it is for raw, elemental and status? Thanks and have a nice day :)
talk about the dire miralis plz. I want him back T^T
Try using the m tigrex switch axe with the same armor. Its great and I think it exhausts very quickly. Try gemming in razor sharp as well and you're golden
Really looking forward to experimenting with exhaust/stun damage in MHX when it comes to the west in 2050.
there used to be a plunger and toilet seat lance on one of the older mh games. Think it was the first one if I remember correctly
Flash forward: How does or how good is exhaust damage for Prowler/Palico and what attacks exhaust monsters?
I used a CB, and delivered a super AED on the head, it knocked it down on a single hit on a White Mono.
meanwhile no mention of the build-up kinsect/glaive which can be CUTTING or IMPACT or of how much exhaust is dealt from "jump strikes" to the head and "mounting"
huh, interesting getting that cleared up and out in the open. Yea, I've always been a little curious about exhaust. Shame I don't enjoy using horns and despise hammers with every fiber of my being.
In your opinion, how do Charge Blade impact phials measure up vs Hammer/Hunting Horn in terms of doing stun and exhaust damage?
I've personally found that it seems to be waaay easier to score knockouts with some impact phial applications from a Charge Blade.
GaijinHunter, are you sure the Charge Blade Impact Phials deal Exhaust Damage? I distinctly remember trying to go for putting Stamina Thief on my Charge Blade set, and the skill didn't light up to show that it was active. My set now has Knockout King on it, which does light up, so I know that the skills take the Phials into consideration.
Damn, I was planing to start MHX maining bowguns because of how rad they look with aerial/bushido style and hunting arts. But my old main from MH3U, the horn, seems to be getting better as the time pases, specially now that online multiplayer is back.
Hey gaijin hunter, you talked about the lance and gunlance doing either cutting or impact damage during attacks, depending on which is stronger. I always thought that the switch axe's axe mode did the same thing. Am I wrong about that?
Is there a way to go beyond zero stamina? Do exhaustion effects scale? I ask because I've had hunts where I got Rathalos to move in literal slow motion. A mix of hunting horn and them raging an absurd amount of times within a single area.
Gaijin Hunter. Can you please give us more details on your hunting Horn set? The hunting Horn tutorial didn't give us much info.
i just got to special g rant in mh4u. The dream is real
what about if I couple an applicable exhaust weapon with stamina thief from an excello armor, will that increase the effectiveness of exhaust or no?
Missed an chance to plug your hunting horn tutorial.
Question: The lance and gunlance do cut or impact damage depending which does more damage in the area you hit. If impact damage does more damage than cut damage would that make exahust damage?
I find when solo hunting that monsters tend to get exhausted once during a hunt without me actively trying to cause it no matter what weapon I use. In multiplayer I'll always try to trap an exhausted monster so teammates have more time to whale on it. So fun:)
This video has got me back into Switchaxe a bit, but not in the way one might think. I've been looking into the different phials and what they do, Exhaust seems to be the worst as Gaijin mentioned. Exhaust phials only come on a few select SAs of the Wild Axe tree and they don't have any element/status at all, not even latent (requiring Awaken to activate). The Dragon, Para and Poison SAs all come on axes with the equivalent latent element/status (e.g. latent dragon element on dragon phial). Sword mode on those just acts like Awaken, thus the Awaken skill is half-wasted, since Sword Mode Awakens anyway. Power phial increases raw damage by 20% (down from 25% in MH3/MHP3rd) and Element phial adds 25% element damage, in sword mode. The one thing I don't know is what are the exhaust/stun damage values for exhaust axes? Are they fixed like HH?
What about ProDirtyFencer? Could you possibly do a video on skills like that? Those random skills that only one or two sets have? Maybe a video on the relic abilities?
Do you have to hit the monster on the head for it to do exhaust damage, or can it just be anywhere on its body?
Every time i exhaust a monster to the point of hungry and i place poisoned meat ,or tinged meats it always ignores it and goes for actual food.it works sometime with a great jaggi but not when its a rathalos and rathian
is there any monsters other than Barroth that have parts that can only be broken by impact damage? I remember when I was playing 3U and I was shocked when I broke barroths head.
Deviljho must have a really small exhaust pool or do a lot of attacks that drain him. Half the time I see him out of enraged he's exhausted and hungry.
Yeah that's kinda his thing. It's known for hunting every signal monster in a area. That's why he eats a lot
Hey Gaijin, do you have a source about the gunlance doing piercing damage? I'm pretty sure that's a thing exclusive to the lance.
Also, the "piercing" effect isn't nearly as useful as one might think. The lance will only use the impact modifier if the impact modifier x0.72 is stronger than the cutting modifier. You'd only ever be doing 72% of the full impact value. The impact modifier is rarely applied since most cutting and impact modifiers are so similar to each other.
exhaust is nice when it happens but not something iv ever actually tried to make because basically as much as its usefull mostly monster will just flee to feed or enrage and recover
Since when does the gunlance have that ability to use the impact modifier for hitzones? Every mention I've ever seen of it said it was an ability unique to the lance.
So if i slam a monster with the HH in the legs, it gets exhausted too? (exhaust damage) or do i need to hit the head for the exhaust damage?
Or try lbg rare 10 max raw relic weapon. Those have exhaust lvl 2 and rapid firing exhaust lvl 1.
awesome thx for the info im a HH main so this is useful ^-^/
what happens when u do exhaust damage when the monster is exhausted or stun damage when the monster is stunned, does it stacks expanding the duration of the exhaust state or for the second stun or i have to wait the monster recovers?
is punishing draw the same for all? eg GS charge vs say DS draw?
thanks for the tip
what is exhaust flinch?what will happended on the monster
gaijin you should do a monster hunter introduction serie since they don't make those ecology videos anymore.
How do multi-monster quests affect their stamina,hp, and/or other stats?
Do impact type kinsects work with exhaust.
Is it true that exhaust always works while stun is only for the head, or do they both require a hit to the head
When the monster gets exhausted only 3 seconds because rage
I can tell u from my agnaktor charge blade with ultra burst on the head it immediately stuns the monster, its ridiculous
gaijin, what about blunt kinsects?
Hey Gaijin, long time fan and I can't find the information anywhere. I am trying to create a exhaust exploit armor build(gunner)...does the "Status +1/2" increase exhaust damage?
edit: thanks for all your years of community service
Cool, I didn't know this
I making a video soon for this inspiration and reference to a show 1000 ways to die. It's called, "Knockout" or "1000 ways to KO".
so can you still deal exhaust damage even if you don't hit them in the head?
Gaijin. Is exhaust and stun focused palico viable?
I main lance like super dooper hardcore and personally I'm not convinced about the whole impact hitzone values being used when they're better. My main piece of supporting evidence is the fact that when you attack a weak point (hitzone value 35+) the lance gets a sparking effect. I tested by attacking the front legs of an akantor where the cutting value is 25 and the impact value is 35 and I did not observe any sparking effect, which would suggest that the cutting hitzone value is being used.
+Arcturiel “Arc” Etherealis The attack has to do significantly more damage with impact for it to work. specifically, if 72% of the impact damage is greater than 100% of the cutting damage, then the lance will do impact, and only do 72% damage. At least that's how it worked in mh3
***** Ok, well I looked through every monster's hit values and none of them will allow me to test that using the spark indication so I will have to test this using break/flinch thresholds and get back to you tomorrow