I remember living in Phoenix in 1993 and on the day the Suns lost to the Bulls in June....it was like somebody dropped a bomb on the city that day. None the less, a very fun team to follow that year.
I remember that well. Born and raised in Phoenix. That was the season that got me into basketball and I became a Suns fan that season. I'm still a Suns fan. But this was one of my fondest memories of the Suns.
@@whiteknight7227 Nope. Phoenix was on too much of a roll. Hell even if Phoenix could've defended home court in game 1 or 2, the series could've ended up differently.
That was the first Barkley play which cost his team dearly. The other was '97 WCF and trotting towards Stockton when he was shooting the 3 to win the series.
Ugh... The Suns were my all time favorite team from the mid-80s until the Nash years and they damn well should have been better... Especially that '93 year.. But Thunder said it loud and clear: "... we didn't even practice.. we'd show up to shoot around in flip-flops and shorts" ... Meanwhile Jordan was punching Wil Purdue for not setting hard enough screens and being threatened by Cartwright for late game post possessions... Barkley and the Sun's were talented.. Jordan and the Bulls were driven.. Paxson said it aloud: after the Cavs and the Knicks the Bulls were actually *happy* to see the Sun's... They were that soft... 😖
The odd thing about that series is that the Suns didn't win a home game in the 1993 NBA Finals. They played well all season long to get the home court advantage and they didn't take advantage of it in the Finals.
@@zerimar26 they really only played desperation ball. In the 1st round they had 3 elimination games against a underwhelming #8 seed Laker squad and were pathetic - losing home court and only managing to survive. In the WCF they couldn't close out Seattle at home and Barkley had to go berserk just to win a elimination game 7. The Spurs were always soft and it STILL took a buzzer beater in game 6 for the Suns to win.. This is why the Bulls basically wiped them out. The Suns never played Defense until they had no choice and Westphal was too much of a nice guy to make Barkley work hard where he didn't want to.. West and Chambers were far to docile by that point and Miller was a overweight rookie with great timing for an undersized center. Thunder and Ainge loved the three too much. Thunder actually played better under Riley on those late 90s Heat teams paied with Hardaway and Lenard in the back court.. KJ and Frankie were good but KJ was losing it by then. And Cedric did what he could but was alone because Dumas was - AND STILL IS (arrested recently for stealing school equipment) a complete loser.. That's why when '94 and' -95 hit they got wiped out by the Rockets twice after taking big leads.. They didn't play unless they were up against the wall and never had a killer instinct.
@@mams1701 You brought up a lot of good points. Had the Suns played with the same kind of motivation and discipline like the Chicago Bulls, the Suns probably win the championship that year.
@@zerimar26 - I loved the Suns up until I stopped watching the NBA altogether in '06 when it became unwatchable due to going so soft... So I know quite a bit about it.. Just annoys me they never learned through all those losses... Sad for Barkley, KJ, Thunder and Tom. Ced got more chances but everyone else was done or never was... 👍
@@mams1701 I agree with the point you brought up of Phoenix being undisciplined. Which is a shame because the Suns were the only west team on paper that were good enough to beat the Bulls in the finals from the 90s. The Suns had talent but they didn't have championship characteristics. Which is why they could never win it all from 93-95. Only if the Rockets had beaten the Sonics cause they probably could've beaten Phoenix and Chicago in 93.
"We used to show up at shoot-arounds in flip-flops and jean-shorts, we were that good." Uh... i think that's probably why you guys lost in those finals, because if you have the attitude that you don't need to suit-up, go hard, and really work in practice -- that translates to how you'll perform in the biggest moments in the actual game. People in tough situations RARELY ever "rise to the occasion" in those moments. You don't "rise to the occasion" ... you SINK to the level of your training. Your training, that muscle-memory that allows you to be automatic in tough, pressure filled scenarios is what separates the triumphant, from the tragic. So, if you have an attitude of "well, we're so good we don't really need to go 100% and train the way we actually play", then you're setting yourself up for failure. Because when it's crunch-time and everything you worked for is on the line, you better have put the work in, because (barring some freak/lucky occurrence) it's THAT level of commitment to improve - even when you're among the best - that makes all the difference.
The 1992-1995 Phoenix Suns teams were LOADED and deep with talent. However, I could understand why they didn't win it in 1993 (Michael Jordan). But there's no reason in the world why the Suns shouldn't have been able to win a title in 1994 or 1995 when there was no MJ.
I wonder if Michael Jordan ever showed up in flip flops to practice...apparently Dan Majerle is good enough to do that and not practice, too. It’s no wonder why the Suns flopped the next two years, because talent without discipline only takes a team so far.
@@davenue3428 It bothered Jordan a lot when KJ was guarding him instead of Majerle / Ainge / Johnson, he had real trouble against him in G3, though Jordan still got 40 b/c it went 3 OT. They had to stop that though b/c the Bulls adapted to that after G3 as it generated a mismatch elsewhere they could exploit, and initially they kept Jordan guarding Majerle but when they switched and put Jordan on KJ too Jordan shut him down. To be fair to the Suns though, there weren't many players that could contain MJ for a game, and probably none that could contain him for a full series. If I remember correctly, John Starks for the NY Knicks in the '93 Eastern Conference finals shut Jordan down completely for the first 3 games, and that is apparently the best anyone has ever done against him.
A lot of hot air in this video. Saying that Charles was the Best Player that year...I don't remember Barkley scorching the Bulls for 50+ points like MJ did. Saying that they all felt like they should have won....well they didn't...so no they should not have won.
@@hw5091 the bulls had experience too. I remember they put BJ Armstrong on Kevin Johnson and BJ took him to school because he had that Championship experience.
Barkley was so good that ONE year that he got the leftovers when the voters did their edition of "Were tired of voting for the actual best player there ever will be past, present, future Michael Jordan so let's vote someone else as MVP just cuz" award. Malone got that award twice.
I remember living in Phoenix in 1993 and on the day the Suns lost to the Bulls in June....it was like somebody dropped a bomb on the city that day. None the less, a very fun team to follow that year.
Love that 1992-1993 Suns team. My favorite Suns team of all time.
I remember that well. Born and raised in Phoenix. That was the season that got me into basketball and I became a Suns fan that season. I'm still a Suns fan. But this was one of my fondest memories of the Suns.
Now the Suns are back in the NBA Finals!
The best Suns team in Suns franchise history
If Barkley kept Pippen in front of him instead of going for the steal, Suns would have forced game 7.
clipobserver Good call
If Dan majerle made that shot too with 12 seconds.
Yes. And there no way Chicago would beat Phoenix on Game 7.
@@whiteknight7227 Nope. Phoenix was on too much of a roll. Hell even if Phoenix could've defended home court in game 1 or 2, the series could've ended up differently.
That was the first Barkley play which cost his team dearly. The other was '97 WCF and trotting towards Stockton when he was shooting the 3 to win the series.
Ugh... The Suns were my all time favorite team from the mid-80s until the Nash years and they damn well should have been better... Especially that '93 year.. But Thunder said it loud and clear: "... we didn't even practice.. we'd show up to shoot around in flip-flops and shorts"
... Meanwhile Jordan was punching Wil Purdue for not setting hard enough screens and being threatened by Cartwright for late game post possessions... Barkley and the Sun's were talented.. Jordan and the Bulls were driven..
Paxson said it aloud: after the Cavs and the Knicks the Bulls were actually *happy* to see the Sun's... They were that soft... 😖
The odd thing about that series is that the Suns didn't win a home game in the 1993 NBA Finals. They played well all season long to get the home court advantage and they didn't take advantage of it in the Finals.
@@zerimar26 they really only played desperation ball. In the 1st round they had 3 elimination games against a underwhelming #8 seed Laker squad and were pathetic - losing home court and only managing to survive.
In the WCF they couldn't close out Seattle at home and Barkley had to go berserk just to win a elimination game 7.
The Spurs were always soft and it STILL took a buzzer beater in game 6 for the Suns to win..
This is why the Bulls basically wiped them out.
The Suns never played Defense until they had no choice and Westphal was too much of a nice guy to make Barkley work hard where he didn't want to..
West and Chambers were far to docile by that point and Miller was a overweight rookie with great timing for an undersized center.
Thunder and Ainge loved the three too much. Thunder actually played better under Riley on those late 90s Heat teams paied with Hardaway and Lenard in the back court..
KJ and Frankie were good but KJ was losing it by then.
And Cedric did what he could but was alone because Dumas was - AND STILL IS (arrested recently for stealing school equipment) a complete loser..
That's why when '94 and' -95 hit they got wiped out by the Rockets twice after taking big leads.. They didn't play unless they were up against the wall and never had a killer instinct.
@@mams1701 You brought up a lot of good points. Had the Suns played with the same kind of motivation and discipline like the Chicago Bulls, the Suns probably win the championship that year.
@@zerimar26 - I loved the Suns up until I stopped watching the NBA altogether in '06 when it became unwatchable due to going so soft... So I know quite a bit about it.. Just annoys me they never learned through all those losses... Sad for Barkley, KJ, Thunder and Tom. Ced got more chances but everyone else was done or never was... 👍
@@mams1701 I agree with the point you brought up of Phoenix being undisciplined. Which is a shame because the Suns were the only west team on paper that were good enough to beat the Bulls in the finals from the 90s. The Suns had talent but they didn't have championship characteristics. Which is why they could never win it all from 93-95. Only if the Rockets had beaten the Sonics cause they probably could've beaten Phoenix and Chicago in 93.
i am a Bulls fan, and i have to say this Phoenix Suns 92-93 roster team is tough to beat
Sir Charles , Majerle , KJ , DA , Chambers that ‘93 Team was unreal... too bad the had to go up against a True Championship team & MJ
@You Tuber and??
@You Tuber and??
@You Tuber and?? Are is being capt obvious all you are good at..
Capt is short for captain. You seriously didn’t know that??
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Lmao! Never forget, Charles Barkley, is a top 50 all time player.
I wish Phoenix could assemble a team like that again.
me too
I wish they'd go back to those jerseys...
@@Champwsox05 Likely they won't. With all this Wokeness and Antifa kids around. They mighy call those Jersey Racists and not gender inclusive
@@Champwsox05 those are the best looking uniforms they ever had.
@@iamalive.1255 Congratulations they're returning next season
"We used to show up at shoot-arounds in flip-flops and jean-shorts, we were that good."
Uh... i think that's probably why you guys lost in those finals, because if you have the attitude that you don't need to suit-up, go hard, and really work in practice -- that translates to how you'll perform in the biggest moments in the actual game.
People in tough situations RARELY ever "rise to the occasion" in those moments. You don't "rise to the occasion" ... you SINK to the level of your training. Your training, that muscle-memory that allows you to be automatic in tough, pressure filled scenarios is what separates the triumphant, from the tragic.
So, if you have an attitude of "well, we're so good we don't really need to go 100% and train the way we actually play", then you're setting yourself up for failure. Because when it's crunch-time and everything you worked for is on the line, you better have put the work in, because (barring some freak/lucky occurrence) it's THAT level of commitment to improve - even when you're among the best - that makes all the difference.
paul westphal's voice sounds comforting
the difference in that finals was phil jackson vs paul westphal
Pretty much.
The 1992-1995 Phoenix Suns teams were LOADED and deep with talent. However, I could understand why they didn't win it in 1993 (Michael Jordan). But there's no reason in the world why the Suns shouldn't have been able to win a title in 1994 or 1995 when there was no MJ.
Western Conference was loaded back then.
The fans are just like that now. 2:09
I wonder if Michael Jordan ever showed up in flip flops to practice...apparently Dan Majerle is good enough to do that and not practice, too.
It’s no wonder why the Suns flopped the next two years, because talent without discipline only takes a team so far.
So correct. Michael Jordan was supposed to win! He's very hard-working.
MJ dropped over 40 per game against the Suns in the final. No one in the Suns can contain MJ. Majerle just ignorant and lazy.
@@davenue3428 It bothered Jordan a lot when KJ was guarding him instead of Majerle / Ainge / Johnson, he had real trouble against him in G3, though Jordan still got 40 b/c it went 3 OT. They had to stop that though b/c the Bulls adapted to that after G3 as it generated a mismatch elsewhere they could exploit, and initially they kept Jordan guarding Majerle but when they switched and put Jordan on KJ too Jordan shut him down. To be fair to the Suns though, there weren't many players that could contain MJ for a game, and probably none that could contain him for a full series. If I remember correctly, John Starks for the NY Knicks in the '93 Eastern Conference finals shut Jordan down completely for the first 3 games, and that is apparently the best anyone has ever done against him.
I wouldn't call a last second 3-pointer buzzer beater in a Game 7 by the dominant and eventual champions (Houston Rockets) as a "flop".
lamelama22 Semifinals. Up two games. Up 3-1. Home court.
All kinds of flop...
Suns had a huge hole behind KJ. Frankie Johnson was an awful backup PG and that hurt them in the Finals.
A lot of hot air in this video. Saying that Charles was the Best Player that year...I don't remember Barkley scorching the Bulls for 50+ points like MJ did. Saying that they all felt like they should have won....well they didn't...so no they should not have won.
Because Charles was the best player that season... Don't let facts get in the way of kissing shitcago's ass..
The sun's didn't have great defense, and the bulls did. You cannot directly compare. Plus Charles was hurt in the finals, starting in game two.
@@hw5091 the bulls had experience too. I remember they put BJ Armstrong on Kevin Johnson and BJ took him to school because he had that Championship experience.
@@hw5091 so if the suns didnt have great defense and the bulls did you can compare lol....and the Bulls were better hahaha
@youtuber3328Suns would have beat the Knicks in a 7 game series
Where is Negele Knight?
Suns were the better team but didn't have Bulls experience of being in Finals.
Not better but a good team. They didn't want it more.
@You Tuber nope...the Bulls were # 1, Suns # 2...
I would love to see Jordan's reaction to Tom Chambers saying the Suns were the favorite to win the 1993 NBA Championship
uhh because they were.....
@@erichonecker1010 anyone that thought Jordan was going to lose that series knows nothing about the Jordan dynasty
Yeah because Michael Jordan never lost a playoffs series....🤔.
@@erichonecker1010 6-0 in the NBA Finals with 6 Finals MVPs
My god you are dense.. MJ also lost to the Pistons in 1989 and 1990 and the Magic in 1995 but ignore those pesky facts to fit your narrative...
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3:39 no he wasn't ...
Barkley was so good that ONE year that he got the leftovers when the voters did their edition of "Were tired of voting for the actual best player there ever will be past, present, future Michael Jordan so let's vote someone else as MVP just cuz" award. Malone got that award twice.
@@myfriendbobby bullshit Charles had a better season than Jordan did in 1992-1993, deal with it...
best team of that year, but then came Mike...lol
Get out of here. The Suns didn’t have people waiting and following them from city to city!