Human curiosity is simultaneously our greatest strength and greatest weakness. I keep having a dream where I am standing on the edge of this big hole filled with pitch black darkness. I have this urge to just jump in, dive in head first, but my body is completely frozen with fear. I want to know what lies within the darkness, I need to know, but despite that, i can't move a single muscle or take a single step.
This was a fun video to watch. I felt like we were at a campfire or similar listening to your existential story. I'm definitely the person in your conclusion, the person checking the areas meant to be forgotten. To me, the liminal spaces hold power because they're a chance to peek "behind the curtain". I know I'll never see the metaphysical stage hands reconstructing the abandoned buildings to generic living spaces or loading in the NPC's to the dead mall, but I need to see the proof with my own eyes. I know the world is constrained by rules and science, but a piece of my heart will always believe in the wonder of the unknown). I'm glad I found this video!
@@tybellsprout thank you so much ☺️ oooh, wanting to see proof of there not being anything supernatural is a very interesting point, I didn't think of that as that maybe being the driving force behind that curiosity and I think that may just be it. the desire for confirmation on the truth! very insightful, thank you 😌
@@queendopamin there's a wild world of people with their own experiences and ways of handling things. I hope they find this video and add their own stories. In the meantime, I'll keep checking those scary roads and random holes in the earth, investigating to affirm the boundaries of the known reality, but hoping to find the back room.
hi its the long comment guy 2 ways to go about this subject bear with me. in dark souls for example there were theories of solaire being the son of gwyn. I won't bore people that didn't play or dont know the lore but what happens is. solaire is the guy who hires people to heirs of the sunlight. in this world there is also way of white which is also a covenant that is basically a church. both have some sort of connection to lord gwyn which is the allmighty god of this world. weirdly enough while way of white is the more structured, rich and most commonly accepted, heirs of the sunlight bestows the actual miracle of gwyn while way of white bestows other miracles than gwyn. and we also hear from solaire that the heirs of the sun was created, it implies that he was there. so it is new. so why make a new one? old one must have changed or wrong in some way. and when you take into consideration that solaire character is basically symbolizing the cave allegory, you realize that there HAS to be something wrong. after all in the allegory people think shadows of the real world is the world and one person gets wisdom after seeing the sun which is the source of the shadows and both light. there is a beatiful dynamic here when you realize all of these yourself. also remember the name, heirs of the sun! so about being the son of gwyn it seems possible but when you look at the statue that is broken that you pray for solaire's covenant and many other details, it just doesn't add up. there is actually no concerete proof in a way that a character says son is someone else but there is so many details that it is cannon, it just requires work to figure out and as proof I can also say miyazaki actually said he wasn't the son and we saw the son on the third game... what makes this story so beatiful is, this feeling you get when you are understanding the story; is the same feeling you get when you finally realize all the missing pieces of the puzzle (real puzzle) you are solving but didn't actually finish yet. while putting those last 5 pieces you are basically intellectually orgazming lol. it is the interactivity that puts you into hyper mode. you think of a million stories to figure out the real one in dark souls. if you open a random video and learn a specific characters story or if the game didn't immerse you enough to keep that information in your brain long enough to see paralells then you never experience this pleasure. also the game does the real magical thing with this. firstly game gives you concrete details that can be uncovered only as a collective, you talk to people about the story and that is our first instinct when we find something amazing. secondly you get to have actual hard evidences so it is not like lost's first seasons where every info is just useless. so you get a story structure with holes now. then you can get to real theory crafting which is even more fun to some people. thirdly and the best, the game puts contradictions. only by realizing these concrete details can you ever understand why there were contradictions. this serves in both ways. you think of the next info in reference to the contradictions you realized so there is a path to figuring it out and also when you realize everything you are rewarded because there was an actual purpose to figuring out the story. this is way more subtle than the purpose of, will the characters die or win? hence satisfies more avid consumers. idk if you noticed but the story itself is in the form of a game, guiding to a path and making them express themselves etc. I watched a movie reccently about an alien kid and a family abducted to take care of them "vivarium" the movie was so interesting but when I got to the end all the mistery was not even attempted to be explained. differently than other movies tho, there were no cliffhangers for next movie or anything of the sorts. they just made the movie in a way to show a life cycle of a single alien. although our characters tried to get answers and to get out throughout the show we didn't get any. the movie just WAS. you weren't meant to. and it didn't give me either the intense wow or the tilting what is this ending!.. it was just a movie and it just ended. I felt like there was a lot of potential lost in the movie but it didn't abuse them like others so I didn't even get angry. when you connect this to the dark souls example you should see why there are youtube channels that make dark souls 1 lore videos even now. it is a 2011 game. the story is like a language. it is actually alive. and if you are immersed in it, you will actually feel alive lol. you mentioned eldritch and loveccraft. we all love lovecraftian stories. but I think I am the sole hater of actual lovecraft stories. his stories are not stories, it is the promise of that story. I never got scared so I can't comment on that part but I always feel empty while reading them. there is structure, there is lore but you never see any of them. so it is really rewarding when someone else takes his stories and structures and makes a proper story without explaining every detail of the world. or better yet take the same principle but put it in a story that has a lot to offer. if you surround your story with all these unknowables you can get realizm. if you know every part of that story and there are no misteries and everyone got to say their farewells even if they died, as a soul from the heaven; you are either a kid or you are enjoying that show for something else. not to say realizm is the only thing you can enjoy don't get me wrong, if you take the same principle and use it on a soft worldbuilding instead of strict you get avatar the last airbender where everything feels magical. so mystery in essence is a game. you like games better because you are a part of them. when you are a part of them your brain is more immersed and also more active as I said orgasmic. mystery is a tool for gamification.
thanks for all those thoughts! what you're talking about certainly has it's value but it's actually not what I was referring to. I watched a lot of dark souls videos as a means to pass time and do know about a lot of that stuff too, but since it's all entirely made up, it's nothing but a means to pass some time for me. what I'm actually curious about is real mysteries. the supernatural, extraterrastrial life, other dimensions, time travel and such - none of which seems to exist, unfortunately. so in the end, this curiosity has just proven fruitless.
I completely disagree with you. Almost nothing is explainable. We cannot explain why we exist (cp violation), we cannot explain consciousness, we cannot explain love. We can’t even explain simple things. We can’t fully explain cells (Micheal Levin’s work), we can’t explain most things in the night sky, and we have no idea why physics and math even work. I agree that no strange beast is lurking in some unchecked corner. I think that the strangest things are right in front of us, they do not hide. I think that there is a lot of beauty in the world, and there is more to be curious about than we could possibly explore in one lifetime.
Haha, I love the energy! Okay, let me try to rephrase what I said to get a little closer to what I meant: You will not make any unexpected spectacular discoveries. Because I agree that we can explain almost nothing. I think what I was trying to get at is that pitfall of hoping to make some amazing discovery by simply looking around a corner. Kind of like putting in a dollar into a slot machine and hoping to hit three sevens. We get excited at the possible chance to get a huge reward for putting in the smallest amount of effort. There will always be spectacular discoveries to make, no doubt, but I think usually these will also require a spectacular amount of effort to make.
Human curiosity is simultaneously our greatest strength and greatest weakness. I keep having a dream where I am standing on the edge of this big hole filled with pitch black darkness. I have this urge to just jump in, dive in head first, but my body is completely frozen with fear. I want to know what lies within the darkness, I need to know, but despite that, i can't move a single muscle or take a single step.
@@xrystiana3507 damn, that's horrifying! sounds like I've read someone having this before, too. very, very unsettling but so, so intriguing!
This was a fun video to watch. I felt like we were at a campfire or similar listening to your existential story.
I'm definitely the person in your conclusion, the person checking the areas meant to be forgotten. To me, the liminal spaces hold power because they're a chance to peek "behind the curtain". I know I'll never see the metaphysical stage hands reconstructing the abandoned buildings to generic living spaces or loading in the NPC's to the dead mall, but I need to see the proof with my own eyes. I know the world is constrained by rules and science, but a piece of my heart will always believe in the wonder of the unknown).
I'm glad I found this video!
@@tybellsprout thank you so much ☺️ oooh, wanting to see proof of there not being anything supernatural is a very interesting point, I didn't think of that as that maybe being the driving force behind that curiosity and I think that may just be it. the desire for confirmation on the truth! very insightful, thank you 😌
@@queendopamin there's a wild world of people with their own experiences and ways of handling things. I hope they find this video and add their own stories. In the meantime, I'll keep checking those scary roads and random holes in the earth, investigating to affirm the boundaries of the known reality, but hoping to find the back room.
@@tybellsprout affirming the boundaries of the known reality is such a cool way of phrasing it 😁🔥
Death in Space! Easy game to learn, great Space sci-fi /horror setting.
@@no-nowanna oh I'm glad it's easy to learn! thought it might be more complicated than MÖRK BORG but I'm glad if it isn't 😄
hi its the long comment guy
2 ways to go about this subject bear with me. in dark souls for example there were theories of solaire being the son of gwyn. I won't bore people that didn't play or dont know the lore but what happens is. solaire is the guy who hires people to heirs of the sunlight. in this world there is also way of white which is also a covenant that is basically a church. both have some sort of connection to lord gwyn which is the allmighty god of this world. weirdly enough while way of white is the more structured, rich and most commonly accepted, heirs of the sunlight bestows the actual miracle of gwyn while way of white bestows other miracles than gwyn. and we also hear from solaire that the heirs of the sun was created, it implies that he was there. so it is new. so why make a new one? old one must have changed or wrong in some way. and when you take into consideration that solaire character is basically symbolizing the cave allegory, you realize that there HAS to be something wrong. after all in the allegory people think shadows of the real world is the world and one person gets wisdom after seeing the sun which is the source of the shadows and both light. there is a beatiful dynamic here when you realize all of these yourself. also remember the name, heirs of the sun! so about being the son of gwyn it seems possible but when you look at the statue that is broken that you pray for solaire's covenant and many other details, it just doesn't add up. there is actually no concerete proof in a way that a character says son is someone else but there is so many details that it is cannon, it just requires work to figure out and as proof I can also say miyazaki actually said he wasn't the son and we saw the son on the third game...
what makes this story so beatiful is, this feeling you get when you are understanding the story; is the same feeling you get when you finally realize all the missing pieces of the puzzle (real puzzle) you are solving but didn't actually finish yet. while putting those last 5 pieces you are basically intellectually orgazming lol. it is the interactivity that puts you into hyper mode. you think of a million stories to figure out the real one in dark souls. if you open a random video and learn a specific characters story or if the game didn't immerse you enough to keep that information in your brain long enough to see paralells then you never experience this pleasure.
also the game does the real magical thing with this.
firstly game gives you concrete details that can be uncovered only as a collective, you talk to people about the story and that is our first instinct when we find something amazing.
secondly you get to have actual hard evidences so it is not like lost's first seasons where every info is just useless. so you get a story structure with holes now. then you can get to real theory crafting which is even more fun to some people.
thirdly and the best, the game puts contradictions. only by realizing these concrete details can you ever understand why there were contradictions. this serves in both ways. you think of the next info in reference to the contradictions you realized so there is a path to figuring it out and also when you realize everything you are rewarded because there was an actual purpose to figuring out the story.
this is way more subtle than the purpose of, will the characters die or win? hence satisfies more avid consumers. idk if you noticed but the story itself is in the form of a game, guiding to a path and making them express themselves etc.
I watched a movie reccently about an alien kid and a family abducted to take care of them "vivarium" the movie was so interesting but when I got to the end all the mistery was not even attempted to be explained. differently than other movies tho, there were no cliffhangers for next movie or anything of the sorts. they just made the movie in a way to show a life cycle of a single alien. although our characters tried to get answers and to get out throughout the show we didn't get any. the movie just WAS. you weren't meant to. and it didn't give me either the intense wow or the tilting what is this ending!.. it was just a movie and it just ended. I felt like there was a lot of potential lost in the movie but it didn't abuse them like others so I didn't even get angry.
when you connect this to the dark souls example you should see why there are youtube channels that make dark souls 1 lore videos even now. it is a 2011 game. the story is like a language. it is actually alive. and if you are immersed in it, you will actually feel alive lol.
you mentioned eldritch and loveccraft. we all love lovecraftian stories. but I think I am the sole hater of actual lovecraft stories. his stories are not stories, it is the promise of that story. I never got scared so I can't comment on that part but I always feel empty while reading them. there is structure, there is lore but you never see any of them. so it is really rewarding when someone else takes his stories and structures and makes a proper story without explaining every detail of the world. or better yet take the same principle but put it in a story that has a lot to offer. if you surround your story with all these unknowables you can get realizm. if you know every part of that story and there are no misteries and everyone got to say their farewells even if they died, as a soul from the heaven; you are either a kid or you are enjoying that show for something else. not to say realizm is the only thing you can enjoy don't get me wrong, if you take the same principle and use it on a soft worldbuilding instead of strict you get avatar the last airbender where everything feels magical.
so mystery in essence is a game. you like games better because you are a part of them. when you are a part of them your brain is more immersed and also more active as I said orgasmic. mystery is a tool for gamification.
thanks for all those thoughts! what you're talking about certainly has it's value but it's actually not what I was referring to. I watched a lot of dark souls videos as a means to pass time and do know about a lot of that stuff too, but since it's all entirely made up, it's nothing but a means to pass some time for me.
what I'm actually curious about is real mysteries. the supernatural, extraterrastrial life, other dimensions, time travel and such - none of which seems to exist, unfortunately. so in the end, this curiosity has just proven fruitless.
@@queendopamin oh. Im a naturalist. didn't even occur to me lol.
also wdym all are made up :')
I completely disagree with you. Almost nothing is explainable.
We cannot explain why we exist (cp violation), we cannot explain consciousness, we cannot explain love.
We can’t even explain simple things. We can’t fully explain cells (Micheal Levin’s work), we can’t explain most things in the night sky, and we have no idea why physics and math even work.
I agree that no strange beast is lurking in some unchecked corner. I think that the strangest things are right in front of us, they do not hide. I think that there is a lot of beauty in the world, and there is more to be curious about than we could possibly explore in one lifetime.
Haha, I love the energy!
Okay, let me try to rephrase what I said to get a little closer to what I meant: You will not make any unexpected spectacular discoveries.
Because I agree that we can explain almost nothing.
I think what I was trying to get at is that pitfall of hoping to make some amazing discovery by simply looking around a corner. Kind of like putting in a dollar into a slot machine and hoping to hit three sevens. We get excited at the possible chance to get a huge reward for putting in the smallest amount of effort.
There will always be spectacular discoveries to make, no doubt, but I think usually these will also require a spectacular amount of effort to make.