Complete upgrade of my Scott Spark RC SL: Ultralight XC setup

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  • @TwistedWheels
    @TwistedWheels  ปีที่แล้ว

    USE discount code TW-WHEELS for a 10% off on all www.lightbicycle.com wheels and 5% off on all rims!
    Use code TWISTED-WHEELS for 100 USD off any www.farsports.com wheels!
    Use code TWISTED-BAR FOR 50 USD off the Farsports handlebar!

  • @datdudeinred
    @datdudeinred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How on earth do you only have less than 3k subs bro? That transition to trail and every editing trick was exceptional.❤️🙌

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks mate, I hope this will change soon :)

  • @grantmartin829
    @grantmartin829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the video especially all of the weight savings popping up on screen. I would never have thought to change grips and jockey wheels to save weight. I guess I’m not a proper weight weenie!
    Loving the energy all the way through and the cool trails at the end 🙌

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Grant! Jockey wheels look cool too, so it’s not just about weight :)

  • @lanceoa
    @lanceoa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great build!! (Fellow WW at heart here!)

  • @tuckerbeddiges
    @tuckerbeddiges 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those tan wall tires make the bike look so classy!

  • @vongdong10
    @vongdong10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's actually nuts that you can make a dual suspension mountain bike weigh as low as an aero road bike

  • @simon.voggeneder
    @simon.voggeneder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant build! Your fully is now lighter than my carbon road bike 😄 The tanwall Schwalbes really pop, I love them on a lot of bikes.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha thanks! Schwalbes do pop up, but I also liked brutal black tyres in the previous version. Thinking of trying Vittoria with grey side walls to try all options :)

  • @hampuslinden4056
    @hampuslinden4056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel is going to blow up big in the near future! Keep it going!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate! I really hope so 👊🏼

  • @ivork2373
    @ivork2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the video I've been waiting for! Truly a genius with bikes and nothing seems impossible for you. I completely enjoyed this one. I thought my Scotts Scale RC900 is the lightest but not after seeing what you did to the Spark! Love it and keep those great contents coming!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the feedback, Ivor 👊🏼

  • @GiorgioCoppolaCycling
    @GiorgioCoppolaCycling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    pretty good weight saving but most importantly the bike looks incredible 🔥

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! That’s always the target. Make bike light, but don’t forget about the looks 😁

  • @Paganiproductions84
    @Paganiproductions84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have done this also with my 29er xc hardtail from 13 kg stock to 11.6 kg not bad for Orbea Alma whit a Alu frame

  • @dannyboyblue1111
    @dannyboyblue1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The editing just gets better every time! Great work!

  • @panalv.-creativity8813
    @panalv.-creativity8813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The editing skills and the camera is so lit!🔥

  • @CVHSAlumni
    @CVHSAlumni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would pay a large sum of money for this bike!
    Awesome job.

  • @clintonliem7561
    @clintonliem7561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely bike. Great job.

  • @АлександрС-ж8щ
    @АлександрС-ж8щ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your videos. Good job. Hope you have more subscribers.

  • @sashalysenkov
    @sashalysenkov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Что-то невероятное. Я бы и не думал, что такое возможно с подвесом!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Я бы и сам не думал ещё год назад 😄

  • @jeffbrunton3291
    @jeffbrunton3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My daughter raced on Furious Fred’s when it was dry, still have them, superlight and OK in easy conditions. She weighed 40kg back then, so it was important to keep her bike light. I’ll put them on my Epic to drop the weight.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they are fine for certain conditions and light riders. I also keep them, but thinking more of a gravel bike use.

  • @ErichVonCartmann
    @ErichVonCartmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! Love the no expense build.. Amazing you got it to under 20lbs. Bike also looks amazing. SUBSCRIBED!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Erich and welcome to the channel! You’ll be surprised, but I tried to keep expenses relatively low. As I have to pay for all parts myself, I found some good deals on Ebay and other platforms. It makes the process much more fun :)

    • @ErichVonCartmann
      @ErichVonCartmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TwistedWheels , hahahah! to me you are NOT keeping expenses low when you are replacing a $400 cassette to save only about 40 grams. HAHAHAHA. Either way, I am going to watch the rest of your videos sometimes later this week. I am happy I found your channel, and the only reason I found it is because I was doing a search for "SCOTT Spark RC 900 SL".

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s exactly what I’m saying. I replaced a $400 cassette with a cheaper one and also more expensive DT wheels with lighter LB wheels. After selling the replaced parts I’ll have profit haha

    • @ErichVonCartmann
      @ErichVonCartmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TwistedWheels , HAHAHAHA!

  • @michaelgravlund9194
    @michaelgravlund9194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a great taste 🤟🏼... fantastic set up

  • @jacuist3339
    @jacuist3339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola , the bike is super cool. I own a 970 but my style is also more like down country… please share with us your ideas for a down country spark. Cool video !

  • @ikkeikke4419
    @ikkeikke4419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video and did some upgrades to my spark. What is the angle for the handdlebar, -8 or -17° ? Grtzzzz

  • @Louis-nh6st
    @Louis-nh6st 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a set of brakeforce h2o brakes would have beendet really nice. I have them and I really have to say that I love them really much.

  • @Zzzzephyr
    @Zzzzephyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. Where did you get the lighter garmin syncros mount? I can't find it anywhere. Thank you

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. They previously sent those plastic mounts with the handlebars. They now have adjustable metal one that is heavier and that you need to buy separately...

  • @jcmatos742
    @jcmatos742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining and informative, thanks for sharing!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are more than welcome. Glad you liked it

  • @SuperBetoarroyo
    @SuperBetoarroyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG!!!!!! GREAT JOB I LOVE SPARKYS

  • @RanchoLaEscondida
    @RanchoLaEscondida 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber here!! Excellent quality videos!! I’m currently building an ultralight cross country full suspension MTB and this video is amazing!!
    I would like to know what foam grips you are using? I currently have ESI foam grips and they are like 80 grams, yours were super light.

  • @evse.bike.andorra
    @evse.bike.andorra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pleasure to see it! I like your selfie stick. Hope it’s not heavy neither). Do you use microphone? Sound of wheels on stairs is very nice. Btw, do you think the grips might be good for trial? How thick are they?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, bro 👊🏼 I did have a microphone on me while riding :)
      Grips have enough thickness, but not enough density for trials in my view, but no one stops you from trying. They are €15 so not too expensive, especially taking into account 30g saving comparing to trialtech foam grips

  • @mwinner101
    @mwinner101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. That bike is amazing.

  • @tylerdesrosiers
    @tylerdesrosiers 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought this frame set and I am doing a similar build inspired by you!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woohoo! Good luck with your project!

  • @TrimaranSpiritXL
    @TrimaranSpiritXL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos and awesome quality!

  • @DilbertMuc
    @DilbertMuc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your video made me look for a scale and weigh my old fully bike. I am devastated: 14.8kg...holy sh*t !!! Is that a frame made of lead? :O
    Your's is lighter than my road bike.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, yes this bike is light. Frame is 1800g including the rear shock - which is the lightest XC frame on the market :)

  • @joemendozaCAN
    @joemendozaCAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make more videos on XC Bikes. Can you review SC Blur?

  • @3goalex
    @3goalex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very fun video, I enjoyed watching. Thanks.

  • @cz287cj
    @cz287cj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    u can reduce the weight further by drilling holes into the frame.

  • @davekelly8168
    @davekelly8168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video…

  • @marioalexandre7410
    @marioalexandre7410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Man, the quality of the content is way too high. Só glad i fundo your channel. Greetings from Brasil.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Mario! Glad that you liked it :)

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looking at the number of subscribers, I think it is also the main problem of my channel 😂

    • @marioalexandre7410
      @marioalexandre7410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TwistedWheelsfor real, the video is at least as good as gmbn and others. If you keep doing what you do it William grow. Maybe make more vídeos smaller, tô keep steady content?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marioalexandre7410 thanks for the feedback. I could have split this video into at least 5, I think, like other youtubers do on their channels. Maybe this is the right approach to grow the channel, but it just doesn’t work for me 😭

    • @marioalexandre7410
      @marioalexandre7410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TwistedWheels yeah, for sure you could split. The fact that you dont makes me respect you even more. However it makes harder to grow The channel.

  • @JoshMcGehee
    @JoshMcGehee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll take those brakes. I like black levers and silver calipers.
    But also, where do you get those decals? 🤩

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The brakes have been long gone and I regret selling them as they are no longer produced :(
      For the decals - watch this video :)
      th-cam.com/video/-PBThqwtkjA/w-d-xo.html

  • @phianimation
    @phianimation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job 👏

  • @vadlme
    @vadlme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Неплохо бы писать как вместе с граммами улетали деньги 😉 или в конце ролика указывать стоимость апгрейда 👍

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Тут сложно оценить, так как многое покупал не новым или с хорошими скидками. Плюс продал почти всё что снял, так что по деньгам не особо-то и потерял. Колеса ДТ были дорогие.

  • @ob1fizkawa
    @ob1fizkawa ปีที่แล้ว

    Dream life 😍

  • @Fastermtb
    @Fastermtb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the brand of the cassette you used. I couldn't understand on the vid. Thanks

  • @tomgraham-tritoultra3504
    @tomgraham-tritoultra3504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this build. Probably watched the video over 100 times. 🔥 🤙

  • @vovantus926
    @vovantus926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing video!

  • @stinkybeam
    @stinkybeam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a SCOTT SPARK WC, whole bike is 8.7KG, with 300grams flat pedal. The secrets are Extralite and Darimo.
    If I was you, I will choose Darimo Stem(80g), handlebar(100g) and Seatpost(90g), and Extralite hub(240g front and rear) . Your bike can easily 200g lighter
    oh, yeah, Replace your fork with Rockshox SID SL Ultimate, another 200g gone!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestions. That would drive the cost up significantly! Most of the parts in the video I found good deals on. Moreover, I really like how the Syncros handlebars look and match the style of the rest of the bike. For my F-Si project I already have the extralite stem and Bjorn seatpost, saddle and handlebars. They are a bit more heavy than Darimo, but also have higher weight limit 👌🏼

  • @YourOwnAdventure
    @YourOwnAdventure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you feel about the Fox 100 SC? I'm in the position where I can save about half the cost of the new 120 SC for my spark build... I know you like jibbing. Do you feel this fork hinders your trail rides?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t say it hinders my trail rides, but if weight is not your key priority, then I’d go for 120 SC, especially at half price.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m actually in the process of making a video where I’m converting my Spark to a downcountry bike with 120 SC, dropper and 2.35” tyres :)

    • @YourOwnAdventure
      @YourOwnAdventure 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels Right on brother. Thanks for the input. I actually meant the 32sc being about half the cost of the 34c. I'm actually thinking now i'll go with the Reba but maybe the 34 stanchions provide that little extra stiffness for $200. When do you think your video will be up?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YourOwnAdventure hoping in the next week or so

  • @RADkate
    @RADkate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just wondering how did the foamgrips hold up are they any durable ?

  • @Zaiedabdullah
    @Zaiedabdullah ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello bro
    I’m asking u what is propose to select just I want get your experience I have new rims 25 mm DT I won’t put sechwlbe tander burd 2.1 and 2.25 or will do it same u my bike marlin 7 corss country I hope to reply As Soon as possible 🙏🙏

  • @cendricwerleman3443
    @cendricwerleman3443 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can i find the garmin mount that he have

  • @Control0305
    @Control0305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand / model is the lightweight Garmin mount that works with synchros cockpit ?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Syncros. Don’t think they make plastic ones anymore. I believe they now make metal with adjustable angle

  • @skryukov1
    @skryukov1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍

  • @georgepyrpiris7857
    @georgepyrpiris7857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful build, bravo! What size brake rotors are they?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks George, these are 160mm

    • @georgepyrpiris7857
      @georgepyrpiris7857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about thru axels, did you find any from J&L?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@georgepyrpiris7857 the front axle is the original Fox that came with the fork. The rear axle is RaceLite

  • @garybrown9719
    @garybrown9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved the video why not make your bike as light as possible when you are 58 every oz. Counts we use Ounces in usa a thsnks to Ronald Reagon

  • @DEXVD
    @DEXVD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you show a link to those rotors, can't find them on Hope's page.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, this is the older version of the rotors, so they are not selling those anymore unfortunately

  • @nicholaslowe8052
    @nicholaslowe8052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is your ratchet t bar from?!

  • @emanuelegiulio
    @emanuelegiulio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have racing ralph, but isn't light, i think it' s better with specialized fast track, you can save 200 grams

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much do Fast track 2.25” weigh?
      I believe they are dry weather only tyres?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve just checked and Fast Trak in 2.3 weighs 640g (according to Specialized), so it is heavier than Ralph/Ray tyres that I have.

    • @ManuelMartinez09
      @ManuelMartinez09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels www.bike-components.de/es/Continental/Cubierta-plegable-Cross-King-RaceSport-29-Bernstein-Edition-p74490/ try these: 590g on my scale (570 by brand)

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManuelMartinez09 thanks, but I ride tubeless and don’t want to go narrower than 2.25”

    • @ManuelMartinez09
      @ManuelMartinez09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels Fair enough, mine are very narrow (52mm) compared With Ardent Race 2.2 (56mm 720g), Vittoria Mezcal 2.25 (55mm 660g) or Fast Track 2.3 (57mm 680g). Those are my measures, all Tubeless on a 22mm rim

  • @macdaddy1617
    @macdaddy1617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what was the total cost??? OUCH I bet!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn’t cheap, I must admit. But I bought most of the parts either used or with some good discounts. Also the DT Swiss wheels that I removed cost a fortune so they helped offset a big chunk of the costs.

  • @imrrad.81235
    @imrrad.81235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If u don't mind..What is stem angle?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it’s minus 8 or something

  • @jonienglish3231
    @jonienglish3231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my MAGURA MT2 - Plastic LEVERS were Even Lighter 200 Grams !!!!!!!!
    Even Cheaper $ 150 CAD for the Pair !!!!!!!!

  • @davidsosa4830
    @davidsosa4830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mates , what would be the first upgrade for my Spark Rc 900 Comp 900?, right now its 13kg.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, if the budget allows, buy good light wheels

    • @davidsosa4830
      @davidsosa4830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels was thinking to buy the Crest MK3

  • @kuzne4ik1979
    @kuzne4ik1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    -1 kg
    the cost?

    • @matteoalani
      @matteoalani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it would be interesting to see the ratio between money spent and weight saved... I guess it wasn't worth it
      Nice video though, you are doing what every cyclist secretly dreams about😅

  • @sumahan5859
    @sumahan5859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its fork lighter than SID?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think so, but I haven’t compared to 2021 models.

  • @jeremykoslow9381
    @jeremykoslow9381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how and why did a sponsored link on FACEBOOK bring me to this video???

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magic!!!

    • @jeremykoslow9381
      @jeremykoslow9381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TwistedWheels well I enjoyed it and subscribed! Cool build!

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad that you liked it, Jeremy 👍🏼

  • @kaluginden
    @kaluginden ปีที่แล้ว

    What about sealant?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  ปีที่แล้ว

      What about it?

    • @kaluginden
      @kaluginden ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels what is the weight?)

  • @Corvin1991
    @Corvin1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somebody know what decals he has on the fork?

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll wait for somebody to answer 😂

    • @Corvin1991
      @Corvin1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TwistedWheels i found out myself 🤓

    • @Corvin1991
      @Corvin1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels could you send me a pack? im paying. i just want the 3 and the 2 : )

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Corvin1991 email me and we’ll agree. Are you in the UK?

    • @Corvin1991
      @Corvin1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TwistedWheels i love the design, but it doesnt fit to the rest of my scott scale. But i really appreciate you offering to send it. i subscribed. Im from Germany. Cheers!

  • @garybrown9719
    @garybrown9719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black

  • @filipebimba
    @filipebimba 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job but 8.98kg is 2g below 9kg 😁

    • @filipebimba
      @filipebimba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My mistake. You're right it's 20g.
      🙄🙄🙄🙂

  • @OZMDPrime
    @OZMDPrime 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U need Lauf fork

  • @sheephills510
    @sheephills510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now it’s time to get a real mountain bike instead of a road bike with knobby tires. Honestly, the stair ride opener proves the nonsense handling of a “xc” wanna be trail bike. So sad how people have been fooled🙏🔑✌️

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a race-proved XC mountain bike, same as ridden at XC World Championships by top athletes, so not sure what you mean.

    • @sheephills510
      @sheephills510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels top athletes ride all kinds of things. My point is, a real mountain bike doesn’t need to be fixed every other ride. Very similar to big expensive lifted show trucks. Good luck🙏🔑✌️

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sheephills510 never had to fix it. And I ride it on some rough enduro trails too. If someone says that they need to fix their scott spark every ride then maybe they don’t know how to ride it or How to look after their bike 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @sheephills510
      @sheephills510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TwistedWheels that’s the point, thank you! Xc bikes have a maintenance learning curve to go with “light duty” integrity. Scott Ransom is my ride. I do like the 2022 Spark. More trail than frail. And your bike is nice dude!!! Great campground pit bike and to grandmas house. Preferably dry fire roads and hard pack gravel. Jk! Seriously, bikes beat bears😎 🙏🔑✌️

  • @jeroenberger9064
    @jeroenberger9064 ปีที่แล้ว

    That saddle will NEVER be comfortable.

    • @TwistedWheels
      @TwistedWheels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Have you tried it?
      I’ve just done 130km on it and it’s one of the most comfortable saddles that I’ve tried. The shape of the saddle is much more important than a padding. For padding you need proper bib shorts.