All the money they invested in her she eventually pays back with the profits from record sales. That’s why unless you make big bucks they usually disband the groups for that reason
@@neroviqransyah that’s not true… they do earn money as a trainee and that’s how they (mostly) pay off debt. and why would they not earn money from debuting and so on? it makes no sense
Kiya sounds like she was in one of the big companies, none of the normal ones would pay for a trainee's wardrobe.. hell some won't even pay for the food and housing of their debuted idols.
no..that's not quite true! Most of them actually do pay all that, that's why the debt system is a thing, they have to repay everything once they start making money since they invested in them, trainees are completely at their charge and don't have to spend a penny
@@astouaiisha They pay for lessons, housing, transport and some staff.. not to the extent of full time stylists and wardrobes. Even with the debt system only rich companies do that. There are so many legal cases of trainees (and even idols) against their companies because they haven't paid for their dorm maintenance or the lessons they agreed to, and so many trainees and idols have spoken out about having to rely on their parents to help buy clothes and food, that's why they're so pressured to debut.
I remember watching cathy in produce 101 but there was really a clear discrimination against trainees who came from smaller companies. She did all that work and got little to no screentime
It looks great and all but you are LITERALLY selling your body, mind and soul to a company… just think about it. It’s not for everyone. And I’m saying this as a kpop fan myself
Yes, but that’s also for literally everything on terms of being famous. Not just Kpop (yet it still plays a very large part in Kpop), but pretty much being famous in any way has that. You’re being watched pretty much always
Both of them getting into kpop and wanting to be idols because of EXO just makes me so happy. I'm an EXO fan and it's just rare these days to see others mention them as the reason they got into kpop so it makes me happy when people mention them because they are truly great.
love this but i would have loved to hear them talked about the mental health side of things. if the company paid for counselling, if they taught you how to handle online abuse, stalking, etc.
This is what I would love all Haters and Antis to see why you shouldn't dislike or hate any idols? It takes to hella works to become an idol from trainee. Also they are sacrificing their wonderful teenage life into this unknown investment. It is just hard reality for them that we don't know. If you serious can't stan that idol, it's okay, just don't follow them and post hateful comments on their video or related video. If you don't like something, just don't follow it. Also, if your favorite idols want to date, get tattoo or even married, don't angry at them, don't turn to anti them and stop these "cancel-culture". Like as I said earlier they already lost a lot of happy life, so they are deserved to have them now. Be happy for them, cheers them up and just continue to support them. Obviously not with drugs, too much alcohol and other bad stuffs.
I totally agree with you especially Korean fans are too much but this what they have to pay for the stardom and money they get but I still believe that it is okay to give someone constructive criticism rather than posting hate comments. No one deserves unnecessary hate
This just makes me wonder what things are like for idols that are from small companies and then aren't just able to debut but become massive. I don't think it's easy with a big company either but I keep thinking how it must be like for BTS. I mean forget the trainee life, they were the sole income of their small company for like years. With big companies atleast the fact that you know you're gonna get good promotion and a small by default fan base could keep you going. But with small companies it must be seriously scary. Brave girls, Ateez, Dreamcatcher and others like these are seriously legends in my opinion for being to able withstand so much and come this far.
its literally my dream to become a kpop idol but i realized that there are lots of other talented people out there :" i can't even sing and there"s no way that i can go to korea :( and i think that i cant handle being a trainee, they have strict rules and those monthly evaluations. sigh i'll just have to forget it and find another dream
@pich meong Hey its ok..... if u really wanna become an idol then ya you will need to sacrifice certain stuff but like nothing is impossible gurrrlll! if u are really interested in it and really want to be in the entertainment then it's not impossible but if u feel it's not for you then you'll have to do something else but believe me nothing is impossible! Fighting!!!✊
I think reason why a lot of trainees don’t know what they are getting into it’s because companies lack transparency about their secret world. Trainees only find out about stuff once they are inn and not before audition.
I have thought about becoming a kpop idol but it seems really hard ! I’m studying Korean and I’m learning how to dance but idk if I could really get into that
I have always wondered what trainees who leave have to do about the "investment". I can't really imagine the company just taking the hit financially....
Tbh one thing is props to the companies cause they pay for everything even if you may not debut. And you pay them after but like still it's a big risk for them
Listening to this I have more respect to BTS.. Remember their company got bankrupt..Yet they stick together.. I wonder how they get through their days.. Just look at them now💜
Also...anyone know what age Kiya was scouted? I essentially gave up on the idea that I could ever become a trainee when I hit 25 as most idols are considered "old" by then and much harder to market from what I hear. It'd be pretty cool to see a company trying to wriggle out of those standards
the Fact That I was Planning On auditioning For JYP For Dancing But I Can't Have Strict Diet Why??I'm Allergic To Lean Foods Like Sea Food Eggs Any Lean Foods😭
I think all of us just needs to learn how to respect whether you're a kpop fan or not. We have different taste in music and we should respect that. Im commenting this cuz im trying to prevent war lol. Btw im a kpop fan.
Music has no language barrier. You don't need to understand the lyrics to vibe with it, if you do want to understand the lyrics there's Kpop song translation websites.
Kiya's company seems like a decent company. At least they provided pretty much every important things for her during her trainee days.
All the money they invested in her she eventually pays back with the profits from record sales. That’s why unless you make big bucks they usually disband the groups for that reason
Thanks for sharing
@@malloriemusic1 yeah i heard kpop idols don’t make money until after they’re finished paying their training period debts to their company.
@@neroviqransyah
that’s not true… they do earn money as a trainee and that’s how they (mostly) pay off debt. and why would they not earn money from debuting and so on? it makes no sense
@@malloriemusic1 ahh I see but still they did a lot for her yk
*the fact that both of them got into the kpop industry because of EXO-*
Lol
Exo's the standard aka trendsetter of kpop 👍
I mean, what more can we say. Leaders of KPOP of their time👌
Exo's impact ahah
Ikr. Now I wonder how much people become trainee then kpop idol because of BTS of Blackpink.
Kiya sounds like she was in one of the big companies, none of the normal ones would pay for a trainee's wardrobe.. hell some won't even pay for the food and housing of their debuted idols.
Most company do that BUT then will put it on the trainee dept that will need to be payed back while you work for them
no..that's not quite true! Most of them actually do pay all that, that's why the debt system is a thing, they have to repay everything once they start making money since they invested in them, trainees are completely at their charge and don't have to spend a penny
@@astouaiisha They pay for lessons, housing, transport and some staff.. not to the extent of full time stylists and wardrobes. Even with the debt system only rich companies do that. There are so many legal cases of trainees (and even idols) against their companies because they haven't paid for their dorm maintenance or the lessons they agreed to, and so many trainees and idols have spoken out about having to rely on their parents to help buy clothes and food, that's why they're so pressured to debut.
@@Barnesi94
Dayuum it's a mess, if everyone could be like the big companies in that aspect then
@BIGgg CHUNGUS changa changa
Groups like NCT and Stray Kids as well started to get their salary right after debut and didn't have anything to pay Back
I remember watching cathy in produce 101 but there was really a clear discrimination against trainees who came from smaller companies. She did all that work and got little to no screentime
Probably the worst season in terms of screentime. I feel like 3/4 of the trainees were basically just extras
Mnet has reputation as snake. At least Mnet evil editing didn't harm her. And Produce101 is fraud, the producer goes to jail because of that and scam.
woah guys, Kathy Lee is smart. She goes to vanderbilt now according to another interview! crazy how i saw her in produce 101 4 years ago
It looks great and all but you are LITERALLY selling your body, mind and soul to a company… just think about it. It’s not for everyone. And I’m saying this as a kpop fan myself
Exactly and as it is their life is hard but they become the face of all the blame and hate by audience who are never satisfied.
EXACTLY! all the suicides and artists talking about how controlled they are is insane
All this and you can't choose your music which would be the biggest thing for me
@@john4ever01
no… the suicides are because of mental health.
Yes, but that’s also for literally everything on terms of being famous. Not just Kpop (yet it still plays a very large part in Kpop), but pretty much being famous in any way has that. You’re being watched pretty much always
I love how they got two different people with different experiences to show it's not the same for everyone
Jyp is hosting an audition for non Koreans now and I wanna risk it all
Send link
same
Oh when?
spill the deetssss
But u know it's probably bc they r losing ppl, they are even threatening to burn down the building lol
Kathy said that it was a little bit toxic...
For me, thats too much toxic to handle in such a young age 😭
So interesting to see a buzzfeed video interviewing former trainees (coming from 10+ k-pop fan). K-pop has definitely come very far.
Both of them getting into kpop and wanting to be idols because of EXO just makes me so happy. I'm an EXO fan and it's just rare these days to see others mention them as the reason they got into kpop so it makes me happy when people mention them because they are truly great.
yess ik and im not even an exo-l
You're happy it inspired them into a deeply exploitative and misogynist industry?
Both of them were inspired to become kpop trainees because of EXO ❤️
As an EXO-L hearing this makes me so happy.
Kings of kpop for a reason👑
Bts is much better
@@paanbanaraswaala5310 what's with the comparison? I never once brought any other group down
It’s really hard to become a trainee doing all this work and, effects your mental health is well.
I have adhd, and I'll never be a kpop trainee do to that reason you said
@@caitlinwilliams7104 I have adhd too, i can barely even learn 5 seconds of a dance. I would never make it as a trainee. :(
@@moxie806 probably I can
That's why only one among thousands make it as kpop idol 👍
I love that they both are EXO-Ls
love this but i would have loved to hear them talked about the mental health side of things. if the company paid for counselling, if they taught you how to handle online abuse, stalking, etc.
This is what I would love all Haters and Antis to see why you shouldn't dislike or hate any idols? It takes to hella works to become an idol from trainee. Also they are sacrificing their wonderful teenage life into this unknown investment. It is just hard reality for them that we don't know. If you serious can't stan that idol, it's okay, just don't follow them and post hateful comments on their video or related video. If you don't like something, just don't follow it.
Also, if your favorite idols want to date, get tattoo or even married, don't angry at them, don't turn to anti them and stop these "cancel-culture". Like as I said earlier they already lost a lot of happy life, so they are deserved to have them now. Be happy for them, cheers them up and just continue to support them. Obviously not with drugs, too much alcohol and other bad stuffs.
I totally agree with you especially Korean fans are too much but this what they have to pay for the stardom and money they get but I still believe that it is okay to give someone constructive criticism rather than posting hate comments. No one deserves unnecessary hate
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6:19 agree with her. Listen to this carefully please!
i'm hearing too much exo in this video and i'm loving it, stan exo yall👈
Notice how powerful exo is lol exol for the win
This just makes me wonder what things are like for idols that are from small companies and then aren't just able to debut but become massive. I don't think it's easy with a big company either but I keep thinking how it must be like for BTS. I mean forget the trainee life, they were the sole income of their small company for like years. With big companies atleast the fact that you know you're gonna get good promotion and a small by default fan base could keep you going. But with small companies it must be seriously scary. Brave girls, Ateez, Dreamcatcher and others like these are seriously legends in my opinion for being to able withstand so much and come this far.
I don’t even know why I’m subscribed to this channel anymore, non of the original creators even work there anymore.
Ikr. But i'm not ready to let go😂
its literally my dream to become a kpop idol but i realized that there are lots of other talented people out there :" i can't even sing and there"s no way that i can go to korea :( and i think that i cant handle being a trainee, they have strict rules and those monthly evaluations. sigh i'll just have to forget it and find another dream
@pich meong Hey its ok..... if u really wanna become an idol then ya you will need to sacrifice certain stuff but like nothing is impossible gurrrlll! if u are really interested in it and really want to be in the entertainment then it's not impossible but if u feel it's not for you then you'll have to do something else but believe me nothing is impossible!
Fighting!!!✊
its sad how kpop idol get hate just because they're "KOREAN" but most people dont see they're efforts..
Or a different Asian
you mean non-korean?
I think reason why a lot of trainees don’t know what they are getting into it’s because companies lack transparency about their secret world.
Trainees only find out about stuff once they are inn and not before audition.
I love how we all love Exo and kpop
wait omg kathy appeared on pd101! its cool seeing her here
KIYA'S COMPANY IS THE BEST!
I have thought about becoming a kpop idol but it seems really hard ! I’m studying Korean and I’m learning how to dance but idk if I could really get into that
My advice is to pray and never lose sight of your end goal.
TO SHARE MUSIC THAT TOUCHES THE SOUL
An idol is just an avenue of doing that.
@@ejikemeetudo6766 awww tysm! That’s so sweet of you
@@teffy539 Thanks☺️
I have always wondered what trainees who leave have to do about the "investment". I can't really imagine the company just taking the hit financially....
They have to pay the debt
Seeing them mention EXO made me tear a bit.. Legends always 💃
Kathy Lee was a former trainee in MIDAS Entertainment
Does anyone know what company Kiya was with? they seemed to actually treat her pretty decent.
super curious about this too, first time I'm hearing of a company paying for an entire wardrobe or trainees having consistent stylists already
It's probably Sm, or any big company
I was curious about that too! cause it seems like they pretty much payed for everything she needed.
@@haniseokchan sm wouldn’t debut a black idol
Sounds like the standards of what constitutes "decent treatment" are very very low.
The black girl is so pretty
Tbh one thing is props to the companies cause they pay for everything even if you may not debut. And you pay them after but like still it's a big risk for them
I'm officially old. I've never heard of any of this before
being a kpop trainee is just a huge DEBT 😩😔
besties being fans of EXO we love seeing !!!!
THEYRE BOTH EXO-LS I STAN
So Kathy was in Produce 101
im conflicted b/c kpop culture can be really toxic and harmful to the people involved, but i wanna support the artists that work so hard
EXO has the best singers. No one topping Chen, Baek, and DO. Fight me lol
No one is fighting you lol
Why do you want someone to fight you?
Not fighting u😆😍🥰 but umm all OT9 r best singers/rappers/visuals/dancers😋
Listening to this I have more respect to BTS.. Remember their company got bankrupt..Yet they stick together.. I wonder how they get through their days.. Just look at them now💜
Queen Kiya is so prettyyy
Also...anyone know what age Kiya was scouted? I essentially gave up on the idea that I could ever become a trainee when I hit 25 as most idols are considered "old" by then and much harder to market from what I hear. It'd be pretty cool to see a company trying to wriggle out of those standards
Not sure but she did say she was on the older side and still got scouted
This is so interesting!! Love the content 🤗🤗
Kathy? Is she the one from Produce 101? Katherine Lee?
yesss
Dam i knew kathy was familiar
So.... no one gonna talk about mmm at the back at 0:05? Moos where are you?
IT'S REALLY HARD TO BECOME A TRAINEE!
Not allowed to have a boyfriend?
*laughs in lesbian*
the Fact That I was Planning On auditioning For JYP For Dancing But I Can't Have Strict Diet Why??I'm Allergic To Lean Foods Like Sea Food Eggs Any Lean Foods😭
Never knew about this
1:05 hey i knew her!! But she got into F class, right? I think she is from MIDAS ent. Irony team 2
I knew she looked familiar!!! Produce 101 :0
yeah, her company is the same as theeastlight’s, if you’re wondering about some of her examples. it’s one of the more extreme cases.
@@user-nd5lg2rj2j i knew. Pd101 s2's lee woojin
@@lina_hamid2201 ah i forgot the name change happened after produce s2. yeah midas ent/medialine bad
Amazing good video infomation 👍
They both dropped out- does that mean they had to pay the debt?
Like nice dear friend ❤️👍
4:00 still not fine with, at least she lets you wear it on rest days or like on your own man. Like off camera
LETS GO EO
who wouldn’t be obsessed with exo
Hiii!
Cool
Is dat Katherine lee???
Heyyy
Hello
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When I see this comment, it was posted 2 hours ago, with 2 likes. I mean 222 ❤️
I think i'm getting old
what a dystopian job. capitalism sucks, music should come from the heart, not be optimized for income.
Looks like I am first
@@beo1282 yea I am actually 5-6
first
Could've commented something better but okay
@@beo1282 i dont have a life yet as a highschooler 😐 nice attempt tryna be a smartass tho
Kpop is so embarrassing
Why do u think so?
Stfu ok kpop is the coolest
I think all of us just needs to learn how to respect whether you're a kpop fan or not. We have different taste in music and we should respect that. Im commenting this cuz im trying to prevent war lol. Btw im a kpop fan.
Can't deny that they work a lot harder than you tho. Why do you feel the need to say that? you're not impressing anyone, you're just being rude.
Music has no language barrier. You don't need to understand the lyrics to vibe with it, if you do want to understand the lyrics there's Kpop song translation websites.
Lol people still watch /work at buzzfeed?! Lol hopefully these people will be homeless soon and then I can drive passed them