What's it like to shoot with a $30,000 100MP camera?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ย. 2024
- I recently had the opportunity to play around with something I'd previously thought was well out of my reach as a photographer: a full-frame medium format camera. Thanks to Dan over at Hasselblad, I was able to borrow a camera and lens for an extended period of time to put it through its paces and let you all know what I thought.
I also got to briefly put the camera up against a Sony A7R IV. Surprising results!
As I say in the video, this is not a review. Just my thoughts on what it's like to shoot on an H6D-100C. Oh, and I got to shoot chickens.
Sorry about the magenta shifting. Someone decided it would be a good idea to shoot a video in auto WB. Yes, I'm smart like that.
Camera: Hasselblad H6D-100C - amzn.to/2NPe2EV
Lens: Hasselblad HC 100mm F2.2 - amzn.to/2Oe3zlo
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Filming camera: Sony A7R III - amzn.to/2plRmTj
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Hans, thanks for this interesting and informative "Intro" to the Hasselblad system. As a landscape, product and occasional wildlife photographer, I currently shoot the Nikon Z System, and am happy with the sharpness and detail I get with the Z8 and several superb NIkkor S optics. The one comment that surprised me was your statement that the Sony 85mm G Master lens was "sharper" and "Better" than the Hasselblad lens. Having never used Sony gear, I cannot comment other than that I was always under the impression that Hasselblad optics were among the sharpest lenses made. Likewise, I would be interested to compare them to my NIkkor S optics, i.e., the 50mm f/1.8 S lens, which is particularly sharp. Thanks again sir!
Great video Hans! I have owned the H6D-50C and currently own the H6d-100C. While the Sony image you showed was sharper, it is not fair to say that without saying how you shot those images. Were they handheld or on a tripod. I would be very surprised if you came to the same conclusion photographing both on a tripod. If you had any movement, shake, breathing, leaning etc, the image will be soft. The H6D-100C is not forgiving with not holding the camera steady. That has been my experience. Both the H6D-50C and the H6D-100C produce tack sharp images when hand held firmly and steadily, and extremely sharp when using a good tripod. Thanks again Hans!
It’s all about how the straight out of camera RAW files look in terms of your own unique sensibilities, and in your case it’s the skin tones. All the other pros and cons pale into insignificance. Of course, a Hasselblad could or can be used for everything, but the real market for this camera is portraiture and fashion.
A job, kids, bills to pay. I totally get it. Nice to see you again. This is a case where getting access to a raw file would be awesome - even if it was just the chicken 🐔 . A screenshot probably doesn’t do this justice.
I often find myself wanting to reduce sharpness for portraits. Product work would be another story. Interesting to see that difference.
Skin tones are amazing about 11 years ago I shot the 38 mp hasselblad
Monumental photos of black men. I'll never shoot with more than a rz67, but you left me with a profound impression of having shot with a super camera. Phenomenal review, so authentic.
Unfortunately, you didn't test three points about benefits of medium format that you mentioned in the previous video.
MF has something, colour yes but something else.
I am starting to get a little bored of 35mm FF digital. Thankfully I can't afford any MF camera so that ends that. lol
thx. Interessting to hear you talking about this kind of camera gear. The conclusion; skintone is amazing but it is basicly a camera to impress clients paying expensive bills material and its a slow workingproces with just 1 focuspoint. Just now more technology driven consumer camera players are seriously biting Hasseblads tale or even more if we talk about pixels. I wonder how it performs in a Fuji comparison?
Enjoyed listening to you.
Just catching up with your latest videos. Good stuff man, and good to see you still making content!
Thanks man! Trying to get more regular with it in 2020.
A Fullframe camera with one focus point is unsellable today. I can imagine that it is hard to shoot with an open aperture under this condition. Modern mirrorles Fullframe cameras have thousands of possible focus points and eye detection. Faile focus is nearly impossible. And under studio conditions colour calibration of cameras is easy to to do. A Hasselblad is like driving an old car without servo steering support and manually transmission.
Nice review!! But I'll just stick with my Nikon D7500 and D2Xs😃😃😃
I believe the great skin tones are due to more resolution-contrast aka microcontrast
Hi Hans, Excellent Information , how is Hasselblad H6d 50C? does it have same characteristics of 100 mp?
Fantastic observations! Hey, if the skin tons in dark skin people are that phenomenal, then it stands to reason that darker tones are properly recreated. I can't wait to get my hands on one. I was planning to do a two week rental for an escapade to Iceland this fall. With the single focus point, dose all the usual dept of field tricks apply?
Hey Hans - Hasselblad files need to go through Phocus in RAW format which will address sharpness and even finer colour accuracy, which im assuming you did (as its part of Hasselblad's workflow (and a key component thereof)). I shoot with the 50MP sensor and must say i'm surprised to see the fringing on the H files. I could a;most have sworn you had these the wrong way around at 100% crop, as I print my work at 1.5m plus and the absence of CA's is compelling. Regrds form NZ wan
I did initially run them through phocus and saw the exact same behavior
@@HansRosemond - i wonder if its the non HCD lens specifically designed for that sensor, as the 100mm 2.2 is a non D HC version. V Strange indeed, esp when 100% crop on that sensor is only half as far in (50% theoretical) per mm2 compared with the FF . Disappointing almost! Keep up the great content!. Ewan
I have an XT2, but even at relatively small prints, I see much better IQ with an old Hasselblad 500 CM with scanned negatives.
I'd use one for headshots!! I think they would be great for those!!! And currently on my Nikon I only ever shoot with a single focal point! It makes me actually take my time so I get what I want! Unfortunately 400 shots could take hours!
Nice video - for anyone who is even remotely interested you cannot appreciate the depth, colour and sheer magnitude of a Raw file from this camera until you have shot it and seen it for yourself. Took me a while to get here through GFX50s and H5D50c. Had the H5 for about a month before going Ok lets go all in. worth every penny - although disclaimer I got it for 1/2 price as I know some Hass peeps - and not impossible for you to do same - just send them an email see if they have any test cams - not users as they have done the rounds a bit. I shoot fashion and portraits mainly and a few studio shots so I have the HTS tilty shifty thing - which is also good for portraits too if you like to play along with 'beyond shallow' selective depth of field. Also do not be shy with S/H lenses - they are good for 1,000,000+ exposures as for Orange Dot lenses? -Sadly I can't help as I have now run out of kidneys and children and need at least one eye!!!!!
I know this comment is a bit old haha, but would you recommend a h5d-40 or a fuji gfx? I am looking into medium format for my portraits and would be happy to hear your take on it
@@frickseerose6146 Hi there - sorry for the delay in response. Both cameras are amazing, however they are very different beasts for 2 very different things. Firstly leaf shutters in the lenses of the Hass (all Hass) - this can make a difference if you use flash, strobe etc - higher shutter speeds. The Fuji has a focal plane shutter which menas flash speed is 125 and in some cases 60 of a second. The Orange Dot HC lenses will give you 2 extra stops of speed but are more expensive. Next up is that there you must make a consideration of the crop factor with the Hass. 1.3x from memory. So a standard 80mm Hc lens is slightly longer - but as near as makes no difference in the real world and for portraits actually better - DOF is identical to if it were covering the entire sensor. Lenses. The HC lenses are old - are they less sharp than the GFX? Possibly - did I notice a difference? No the H5D and the H6D were incredibly detailed - I would imagine the H40 to be no different but it might be worth checking which sensor it has. GFX is amazing - for the money no better all rounder - the lenses are incredible - I just don't like the overly complicated menus - Hass for me - if you go down the Hass route go for the 2900mah batts - get some spares - they take a long time to charge!!!! - If you can get one get the HC300 one of the best portraits lenses EVER made - All good
@@nelsonclub7722 thank you so much for your response. I am leaning to the Hasselblad but can only afford a second hand h5d or a second hand fuji. I will try and rent one but your response was very helpfull! Thanks
@@frickseerose6146 H5D is awesome - go for it
Wow nice thx 🙏😊
It's more dimensional than ff or dx format,what backdrop do you use ? It seem beautiful 😊
Okay okay it's not a review 😂😂😂 Awesome video man!
Thank you Sir
You compare the sharpness of Sony and Hasselblad, but as a photographer you should know the technicalities, that way you would see the difference. Sony has the software sharpness you can get on any SLR by dragging the sharpener slider in Lightroom, but then you'll get a sharp background like the example you're showing, because Sony does it that, and Hasselblad has a creamy bokeh, and it's beautiful . Sony will never be what Hasselblad is! Color reproduction and that silky creamy look is why you buy Hasselblad. This is what other brands do not have.
All right but remember that Hasselblad use Sony sensors in there cameras, too :)
Software make the difference.
thanks
No one want to speak on the Hasselblad h6D as a video instrument; meaning the quality of the 4k video compare to the Red, Arri, or any other camera with vista vision larger sensors.
Yes they should.
That no beard to beard change was a little shocking. Nice beard though.
Haha. Shows how long it takes me to get my act together and make a video!
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Your very few photos showed why you would be better of staying with your sony camera.
Just make sure not to drop it ;)
So Sony's claims aren't unfound.
Its hard to watch some of these videos anymore - and please, I am not meaning to offend anyone with this - Hans, you start off by saying certain clients expect to see a specific caliber of equipment, or they underestimate the ability/potential of the photographer, and that their pay rate may be in question because of lesser priced gear etc. etc.. Its not a price thing the clients expect to see - its a FEEL THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, and a peace of mind. You state "EQUALLY CAPABLE CAMERA" referring to Sony FF cameras and such. Hear me out please, since the debate about, the quality of cameras is talked about so much. We are at a point where it not the QUALITY in question ALWAYS - and everyone's measurement of quality is subjective - its about the MOOD or VIBE you get from the images that specific cameras produce - the reason why you CAN NOT say EQUALLY CAPABLE is because, to start with - THE SENSORS are completely different sizes, which means the depth of field is completely different in similar circumstances - this dramatically alters the feel you get from the images - this makes them complete UNEQUAL to each other already, next its the color science - you may be able to edit an image, and get it to appear similar - but that is not the point of paying 30-35k for a camera - editing can be thousands of dollars at this level of shooting - and it wastes time - bottom line, there are so many reasons why a client wants to see a specific caliber of camera system, and its not all about the look or prestige of it.
I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make here. In the video, I'm saying that appearance is sometimes key for art directors and people on set. A Sony, for instance, may be equally capable, but does elicit a "pro" vide. The camera is accessible to many and therefore could elicit doubt by an art director. It's a "what am I paying all this money for the photographer is using the same camera I use" mentality. Cost isnt as relevant as appearance. The fact is that a difference in depth of field can be compensated for by lens choice. That's not my opinion. That's science. The hasselblad and cameras like it are wonderful, to be sure. But we are kidding ourselves if we think that modern full frame cameras can't produce the same "look."
I'm glad you are giving so much credit for clients, but most of them have no idea about colour science or whatever.... Sometimes it is just purely brand name....If Leo DiCaprio is booked for a photoshoot, you don't walk into a set with a fuji....I do agree that clients look for a certain feel, and the brand name is part of the feel. and if you don't have the right gear, it kills the feels........
hahaha its about colour reproduction and crop capability for editorial work not for shooting roosters or trees. Not for you stay with the 35 stuff. Nothing I mean nothing beats the Bad even the old CCD 22-39 beats all of the latest 35 in therms of colour and print outcome. Full stop.
People love speaking on medium format with little to no experience using them, ever. But let them keep talking, the more ignorance that spreads on TH-cam, the better deals I’ll find on EBay!
Another Sony troll at the end
And the 85GM is not even the sharpest 😉
Hasselblad modern lens are not impressive like old lenses,
Yes indeed - -
You wonder why you weren't smart enough to save $30,000 by getting a much superior FUJI instead of that Hasselblad tinker toy.
He wanted to try a full-frame medium format camera...
As soon as Fuji offers to send me one out of the blue I'll be sure to take them up on it.
Fuji is beyond full frame now. They've moved to medium format size sensors now. Not counting compacts. A 100 MP camera for a fraction of the price of the more or less equivalent Hasselblad, and built a hundred times better.
@@joakimsundberg7622 - Those new Fuji cameras ARE medium format cameras,
And by comparison to a Hasselbald, they're built like a Sherman tank.
Scott Hullinger I believe they meant the size of the medium format sensor. There are different medium format sensor sizes. Fuji is on the smaller end of medium format sensor sizes.