I have a '11 550 and a '20 700 XT-R. I wouldn't even trade the 550 with over 3000 miles on it for any brand new any other brand. There is nothing better.
@@soundnessofmind7196 I always forget about the Kingquad. I don't know why. It's the last wheeler I ever think of. The kingquad is definitely one of the best, but I like the Grizzlys engine braking better. Can't go wrong with the king quad though. Wasn't that the first machine with a true front diff lock?
@@skeet25s I had a (monster at the time) 1993 Suzuki king quad 300cc, it had 3 range gearbox (high, low, super low) and a true differential lock. Suzuki has had diff lock since early 90s and most didn’t have it till early 2000s. I’m a Yamaha guy but my next will be a 2019-2022 Suzuki King Quad 750.
After watching all these videos on many machines I went with a 21 Grizzly SE and in 8 months and 750km of ownership it's been great! No issues other then ones I created. Fuel chip and exhaust helps with power and responsiveness although stock it's got more than enough of both. Overall pretty darn happy with it!
I agree. Scrap the Grizz 700 and make it an 850 and keep the Kodiak as their 700CC single option. Having two ATVs that are so comparable seems odd to me.
100% agree, The Kodiak is a FAR better option between the two, which I why I bought a Kodiak 700SE. The 2100$ I saved bought me my choice of Tires, winch, and a set of Grizzly clutch rollers.... and still left a grand in my wallet.
I have a 20/20 Grizzly XT-R and a 20/20 Yamaha Kodiak Limited Edition .. they both have the 686 motor .. they use them completely different .. other than knowing the machines have the same power plant, there's no comparison and if I didn't know they both have a 686 I'd never know it by riding them. (The 686 is why I got them)
@@carpenterpatriot4139 what a pair to own! I myself am in the market for one of the two, which do you prefer owning both? I've heard a lot of people who are 6' tall say they aren't a fan of the seating position on the kodiak and it's lower seat. Thanks in advance and happy trails
I have a 20\20 Kodiak Limited Edition and a 20\20 Grizzly XT-R ... The Kodiak is a smoother softer ride .. I got that one for my wife and she loves it .. I definitely prefer the Grizzly XT-R .. I'm 6'2 225 and I'm a up on the tank rider, the seat is very comfortable .. the XT-R has way snappier throttle and you'll feel the more aggressive frame, tires, suspension and clutching right away .. when I say the big blocks like the 850s and 1000s can't keep up with me on the trails know, I'm not kidding .. it's not even close .. the only advantage they have is on some flat smooth straight aways which is the place I least prefer riding and note the advantage is very very slim (the guys with them can't believe I can ride right along side them like I do) .. it's amazing when you have both machines sitting side by side and know they both have the very same motors that the feel and power can fell so entirety different .. myself I did a lot of looking and test riding before I jumped and bought ($20,000 for 4wheelers is a lot of money) .. we ride the Wisconsin and Minnesota trails and both machines have performed flawless, Yamahas reputation for dependability is real .. I can't state enough how the 2 feel and perform so completely different .. and you can't beat those 686s for dependability, that motor is actually why I bought them, I ride in very remote places miles from civilization. I'm more than happy mine and not because it's the one I bought, because it truly is heads and shoulder above the others as far as (pleasure) trail riding .. the others seriously CAN NOT keep up on the trails .. go ride them all, decide for yourself (I did) you'll see what I'm talking about .. the Grizzly XT-R is an AWSOME machine !!! There's a reason Yamaha isn't jumping up into the big twins just to say they have one .. it's because the 686s are fantastic power plants. Know the Grizzly XT-Rs are a sport utility machine that leans heavily towards the sport side lol .. good luck with what ever machine you chose !!!
Makes me miss my old Grizz! The XT-R just looks phenomenal. Mike knocked this review outta the park! The ITP terracross would be my choice for it too, relatively light but still strong and awesome trail tread.. I'm always going to think the Grizzly is the perfect trail machine..
I got a 2022 and would love to put terracross on it but they don’t make that size errrr I’m noticing this a lot and it’s frustrating .. I’d like bighornes OG to but no luck
Great review . I put 310 kms on my XTR this weekend and no complaints. Because compared to what else is out there , this is what I payed for . Thanks for your video .
I have the '19 SE, and feel the same way about the Grizzly. I had originally intended to shell out the money for performance shocks, but after riding my friends Outlander 650 and 850, have decided against it. Not full buyers remorse, I enjoy my Grizzly but there is a lot I'm still missing. The performance and handling for my type of riding. I hope that Yamaha or Honda come out with a larger bore performance oriented 4x4, or I may end up with an Outlander Xxc. Still keeping my Grizzly, and my Rincon because they're too good to get rid off.
Bought a ducks unlimited special edition in 2009 , quad has been bulletproof and I still ride it . Just bought a new Grizzly 700 and I am keeping the 2009 as well .great machines get you home every time ....
not sure if japanese ATV mfg, still have weight restrictions in ATV productions, but that is (at least was) THE OBSTACLE that was keeping twins and 2-ups from being made. the boys' review of the outlander 6x6 is what made me buy mine last year, but i will never give up my yamaha!
I owned a 2009 Brute Force, and I was incredibly close on pulling the trigger on 1 of these. But the lack of power is something I couldn’t get around, so I stuck with what I new and got a 2020 Brute Force. I would gladly look at them again down the road if they come out with a bigger motor.
Shoulda took one for a test ride .. My 2020 XR-T most definitely does NOT suffer from a lack of power .. I can run right with any of the 850s and 1000s on pavement and gravel roads but on the trails they can't even begin to keep up I'm constantly at the trails end waiting for them .. My XR-T is a trail shredder BIG TIME (second to NON in the sport utility or utilitiy machines of any size)... Only the 100% sport machines can out run me, and most of them can't ... Lol (to be fare tho, the Grizzly XR-Ts are sport utility quads that lean heavily to the sport side) just my opinion
I had a 2018 textron (articat) Alterra 300. Total garbage. Thing was scrap metal in 1 year with easy farm riding. Never trails or mud. Trans went, difs leaking, bad starter, lights stopped working. Total nightmare.
Mike coming in from behind the scenes! Great prospective on the grizz, phenomenal machine but it’s time for Yammy to bring some more options at that price point.
As with ANY Grizz video they post, brace yourselves for all the “we want an 850 twin” comments that always accompany them! C’mon Yamaha....JUST DO IT! YES YOU CAN! MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE....just DO it! 😂
@@texasadam4236 it mite not be thebplat form you want but don't say we. You don't talk for every one. And what I would personally like to see is the Kodak get the locker as an option for all models or standard and it takes the spot of the current grizzly then giv us an 850 and or 1000 grizzly with a 2 up option. Now that's just MY opinion but I feel like it would cover all the bases for yamaha. But at the end of the day after talking to multiple yamaha reps it will never happen. at least no plans of that any time in the near future. Yamaha is willing to give that market to polaris and canam.the rest of the world is happy with yamaha 700s and honda 650s
@@aldyson3469 they could keep the Kodiak 700 and put out a V Twin 850 Grizzly. It’s almost as though the Japanese manufacturers hate money and sales. Sad they’re stuck in the 90s.
@@aldyson3469I don’t own a grizzly, but personally I think the 686 engine is one of the most reliable ever. I would probably still go for a Grizzly 700 just because it’s tried and tested even if they came out with an 850
Nice review a, yes I agree that and 850 would be a home run for them for sure. But that is a nice quad with lots of aftermarket support!! Always enjoy the reviews, keep up the good work
Put the 700 engine in a 450 chassis and 850 in the big chassis. Loved the smaller chassis on my 450 but it could have used a bit more steam. I could smoke guys on bigger machines in the tight stuff, but didn't stand a chance when things opened up. It had plenty of torque and I never had an issue of needing more power in any situation. Just wanted more power when my friends on the big machines would leave me for dead on the open trails and roads. I have a Wolverine X2 850 XTR now, and I concur that this engine would be a great fit for a Big Quad. Very powerful, quiet, and compact.
Unpopular opinion...keep the Grizz with the 686 and design a completely new ATV with a 1000cc from the ground up. Make the Grizz with cheaper options like 25 inch tires for farm use and drop the kodiak 700. Move the entire line higher in the market. Probably never happen with a SxS buying market.
I have a Grizzy and Kodiak 700 but need that big power so I also have a Sportsman XP 1000 and Yamaha needs a 2 up Grizzy it would be a must have for me.
I want an 850 in this so bad, that I would literally head to a dealer and trade in my Can Am Outlander 850 XT-P, which I absolutely love, on the spot! The Grizzly really is a phenomenal looking machine, especially in that new green color 2021 XTR
Nice review! I have a 2020(non xtr) as well but find the suspension too harsh. The trails in northern Quebec are pretty rocky. Shock options for this beast seem very limited. I'm not a big fan of elka and fox don't have them listed for that model year.
Having owned a 2021 700SE I agree with the too soft suspension. I have a 2012 Grizzly 550 and I find the suspension on that better than on my 700SE. Other than that I think Yamaha has made an awesome machine. The 700 has more than enough power for the tight and technical trails that I ride on around southern Ontario. More CCs and horsepower would not be any benefit.
I own a 07 Grizzly 700. That thing has been tough as nails reliable since I pulled it off the showroom floor but that's the only thing I've ever loved about it. Everything else is just basic too me. I've never felt like it's done one thing very good apart from being reliable. I'd never consider another one until they engineer something fresh and exciting.
I'm a outlander max xt 2020 owner, loving it but when I was making my mind on which atv to buy, I really liked the grizzly, I went with can am because Yamaha does not have 2 up models...
I’ve owned many different brands including Yamaha. The grizzly is a fine machine for sure . I believe the ultramatic is the best CVT on the market followed by Suzuki and Kawasaki . For me though it’s just to gutless . My old 2006 Brute force 650i absolutely ate that 686 for a snack . I’ve had 3 Brutes up to the redesigned 2012s and up, and an XP 1000 sportsman . I don’t know if even an 850 grizz would be enough , now......a 1000 grizz would have me grinning ear to ear , unless Kawasaki made a 1000 Brute lol .
Just bought a new Grizz 700 in September 2021 ...Really lite front end, does not turn like a Sportsman!! Ride is okay/power is good, but in close quarters really lite front end comes off a little dangerous!
I came off a BruteForce to a 2016 700 Grizz... Grizz is definitely a higher quality machine but does lack the bottom end that V Twin gives you. I would buy a 850 if Yamaha came out with one.
Yeah its close to the 500 cc v twins, but its a single so what do you expect exactly, you should be comparing it to other 700 cc singles which it compares pretty well to
agree they need to up the engine size and expand the lineup. I currently own a Can Am 1000 XXC after 2 King quad 750s and a Grizzly 660. I would be on a Suzuki or Yamaha or even Honda if they would come out with some HP already. Doesn't even need to be class leading. But 75hp or 80hp with some good shocks..... come on, quit dragging your feet already. Polaris (yuck) and Can Am (meh) are running away with the competition.
Honestly the only reason I got a brute force 750 is because grizzlies don’t have a v twin. A grizzly is better in every way, more ground clearance, more suspension travel, better driveline and weirdly more towing and low end torque than the 750 I bought. But that power difference is just too much in my opinion.
Yamaha misses the mark yet again. There are too many offerings from other competitors with better options. You're right on the money with the 70% trail riding and using a Terra Cross as a tire. Same with the QS-3 shock offerings. Yamaha has the legendary reliability and classic looks. However, it is time they step it up in today's market
I’ve been ready to buy a bigger/updated Grizzly for many years now and every year I’m disappointed. And this is coming from someone who loved my own 2011 Grizzly 700 EPS. Please Yamaha give us an 850 for 2022 and take my money!
I’ve been in the same boat with my 2011 Rincon. Looking to upgrade but waiting for a Yamaha or Honda twin. I sometimes find myself looking at the Kawasaki and thinking ‘should I?’
Definetly would go back to Yamaha. When and if the put the big bore in the grizz. Love yamahas reliability and i know the more power typically means more breakage but hey as long as I'm having fun ill take the occasional small issue. PLEASE YAMAHA MAKE A BIG BORE GRIZZLY. So many people have left Yamaha strictly due to wanting that big bore power.
to be perfectly honest my 700 goes 110kph and can wheelie all day i dunno any trail which you feel like more is needed. that being said a 1000cc sure id take if it were the same reliability
@@trucks_n_tractors_6335 Hej… I owned a big bear pro as well… Great machine! I had to sell it years a go. Now I’m thinking of buying a quad again… a Yamaha Grizzly 700 this time. Greetings from Belgium! 😉👍
Great review ! 850 V-twin , snorkel , and the rebuildable / Fox suspension like you pointed out and they wouldn’t be able to manufacture the Griz fast enough to meet the demands ! I’m personally ok with the 686cc power plant, but definitely too mushy on the suspension and the snorkel should have been standard equipment LONG AGO !
Buying this machine soon, coming from a 1000 can am, big horsepower is cool, until you chew up your drive train, im very excited to have a bike with less power
I wish you would have talked about, Yamaha clutch and drive train. And tell why it is different from the other VSP, and talk about their 10 warranty, on the drive clutch.
yes great review as usual I think Yamaha Honda Suzuki and kawi all need to build a 2 up and larger bore like you said 800 better yet 850 go big or go home thank you Lester great review
Awesome. They are sexy machines, just like that new Yamaha RMAX1000 which Dirt Trax will hopefully be reviewing soon. Heck, I'm 15 minutes away from Yamaha's head office, I can pick it up for you. What's the best route from Markham to Minden. 404N. Lol.
That Honda comment made me laugh . Tho Yamaha has a amazing cvt but I still haven't been convinced it's the way to go. For a sled yes but not for a atv in my opinion
Why? I have found on more than one occasion cvt makes things like hill climbs way better and safer! I have seen and (oops) rolled an ATV due to the steepness and need to gear down vrs a cvt, more throttle is all that’s needed!
Also for MPG. You can manually shift into a high hear when you are just cruising down a trail and because there is less power loss in a geared tranny plus selecting the higher ratio you can sip fuel on a honda. My buddies on Brutes are always anxiously checking their fuel gauges when we are on the long trails.
I think Yamaha is being a little lazy with an 850 because they don't need to compete in that class, since they are the only ones making a lightweight sport quad. Why spend the effort on a big bore when you own the market of what is still a fairly popular corner of the ATV market.
If Yamaha comes out with a twin for an atv , they should revamp the bear 🐻 names . Two Kodiaks ? And a grizzly is smaller than a Kodiak ? Polar bear being the largest .
Yamaha got a couple of names in their back pocket like Timberwolf, BigBear and if they go v-twin there's the Vmax! If they want to cross names like Can am/Skidoo there's the Sidewinder that could stand in front of the Renegade with the Rmax 1000 motor. Yamaha is missing the boat on the atv market. Yamaha has to do the that twin swap 850/1000.
I have owned everything but a can-am and yamaha honda was fun and a tank but I loved my suzuki king quad 500axi would love too own a yamaha grizzly one day
@@jasonspencer384 I've talked to a lot of people that switched from Yamaha to one of the more powerful brands. They mostly all say they would switch back if Yamaha would just make a move...
I'd even settle for a grizzly 650 (V twin) if it had around 65 H.P like the Outlander has. I'd like a little be more power but i don't need an 850 or 1000 Hell i'd buy another grizzly (that would be my 4th grizzly and 6th Yamaha in total ) if they had a better suspension. but after 20 years of Yamaha i'm seriously looking at the Can-Am's
A year later, a pandemic later, Japanese manufacturers are like, hey let me do little improvements, change color schemes, different names and tire packages and increase the msrp 5-10% annually and no one will notice….. Still think this unit deserve a lot of props. I’m a Bruteforce guy and if I needed another quad I’d give this a look but it’s so frustrating we can’t another atv arms race in either the sport utility or sport atv world….yes I know, sxs have taken over…. Still there is a bunch of atv enthusiasts who are begging for something totally radically, totally new
Agree on the two-up. Where I live, two-ups are the law for carrying a passenger. To not be forced to buy a less than reliable machine for far-back country trips would be ideal (not AC, Pol, CanHam).... and the P500 from Honda is too small in the driver's seat for me to drive. Everything else is in the SxS market is well beyond the price of a typical two up quad and doesn't fit on a lot of our trails. Thus, a two-up reliable quad would be huge from Honda or Yamaha. Not sure I agree yet on the 850 however.... unless someone can state the weight difference here between the 686 and 850... would it be worth adding 50-150 lbs (guessing) to the nimble Grizzly??? for the sake of a twin??
@@dawsonmatthys5162 LOL. I'm only 6' but with 33" inseam and heavy hunting boots and cold weather gear, I have to cramp my leg in an uncomfortable position to drive my buddy's 2017. If the seat (or seatback) could move back 1-2" I would be sorted and would have bought one as I love my Rubicon and it's engine. I ended up with a Viking for a SxS... room to breath for three large males wearing gear for all day cold weather hunting! Maybe I slouch too much...!
That's what I've wondered too. What makes the Grizzly so fun is that it's so much lighter than other similar models. Making it a lot heavier just for the sake of a few more ponies isn't worth it to me. But we don't know how heavy that 850 really is. If it isn't more than 50 pounds heavier, that's a lot tougher call than if it's over 100 pounds heavier.
@@ExpeditionaryRanger yea I get that too, kinda have to ride spread eagle a bit lol, but I don't mind. Aslong as I can get muddy I'm happier than a pig in slop.
Motorcycle Michael I would even settle for the 700 engine in the tenere 700 and mt07. I’ve been on Can Ams and Polaris but would look seriously at a higher performance Yamaha Grizzly or even a Brute Fore that was updated with more engine performance and plastics so it didn’t look like it was 20 years old.
YAMAHA Needs to move the rear axle back 2 inches to keep the front wheels on the ground! Sure it looks great wheeling with your buddies on flat ground. Take on a anything more then 30 degree slops and bump up 45 degree angel Hill and your wishing it had more weight up front. There Not built for Hill climbing. ESP with a box on the back and gear.
They seriously need a 850, I’m ready to pull the trigger but the 750’s are really making me consider the two 1000’s on the market. It sucks because I’ve owned a brp product (seadoo) and know they are great but not the best long term and Polaris always had that tarnished name from back in the day. I use to ride a 350 warrior and it took a beating so Yamaha is my go to brand but the pack of offer is upsetting
Awesome bike. Love my 2020 grizzly 700 xtr se. I did change the tires right away to staggered sized 30 inch monster mayhams, NO LIFT NEEDED FOR 30s... 💪😁👍 My only complaint is how hot the glove box behind the handle bars gets. To FIX THIS I cut and installed a sheet of thin aluminum under the glove box and fasened it to the frame with 4 zip ties. Nite and day difference in the temperature inside the box. I can safely put my phone in there with no worries. And there is also a spot just above and ahead of the muffler that gets so hot my wife burnt her leg on the fender. This area also got a extra heat shield made from aluminum installed. Again nite and day difference. I really don't care for the squared tire sizing on the grizzly, especially because they put fronts on the rear. Pretty cheesy fad if you ask me. I'd perfer my atv to be able to float just in case I broke through the ice in the fall or winter. Recovery would be way easier. The reason I say that, my 1983 trimoto 200E has never once been sunk and stalled out due to drinking water. Ive even drivin out into the lake and rode out and around the floating dock we swim from at camp on ghis 3 wheeler. Try to do that on today's boat ankers.
Not a fan of the square tire setup either. Steering feels really heavy with those bigger tires up front with the bigger lugs. I would prefer more EPS input to compensate OR just go with a regular tire setup and with trail tires. Smart idea with the heat shields. That compartment gets hot enough to render a Gatorade undrinkable, though it was pointed out that it is a great spot to put extra gloves in colder weather.
Hey ! Good video DT ! I too am a 2 grizzly owner (2008, 2017) and I think you guys hit on all good points, they really do need to upgrade the power plant to the 850-1000cc. I agree the Yamaha CVT should be on all machines, it's so smooth and not jerky at all, it's the way to go for sure. And like you said Better shocks is a Must. I'd keep the 686 for the Kodiak and they should make a 450 Kodiak again. thanks !
Right on. Just watched your walk-around of your 2017 Grizzly. Great job on that. Everyone on here should go over and check that out. Tons of honest, real-world information there.
I have this one as well 2" lift kit and 2" risers on the bars. ( NOT 5 minute job) lol I love her to death!! Did slice open a sidewall and slice a front boot.
hi every one. i have 2007 honda foreman 500cc. it has never gave me any trouble for 8 years that i own it, what is grizzly 700 like for power and for break downs and parts. thanks.
Does anyone know if the 700 engine has any improvements for 2020 or 2021? I owned a 2017 grizz with the 708 cc engine. It backfired and ran hotter than it should. I sold it but am reconsidering the new 2021. I cant seem to find much online. I know the 2019 they changed back to their old engine but it still was running lean.
A return of the Wolverine as a Renegade 1000 beater with the RMAX 1000 110hp same for the Griz to beat Can am Out-XT-p 1000r. Make something that handle and that pulls hard! I'm on the hunt for a Can am XT 1000R Move!!
This is actually kinda funny. Im actually selling my Sportsman 850 touring due to the fact ive had nothing but problems with it. And was probably going to pick up the Grizzly XTR
@@trevorchadwick7649 so, in order of occurrence. My belt shredded itself after 1 year of sitting. (And yes, it sat. My brothers 2004 660 Grizzly is on its original belt.) Clutch seized up after its first (and only) mud run. And at the start of the year, the front diff exploded. Its a 2016 850 Sportsman touring. Had 300 miles when the diff went. Dont get me wrong though, the bike has a ridiculous amount of power, and rides wonderfully. I just had a lemon i think. If you ride 90% trails, you shouldnt have any issues what so ever.
I’m thinking of selling my 2017 can am outlander 570 for the grizz because i have only problems with it 1. The rear diff is ready to blow up any minute 2. Now the engine is pouring coolant of the overflow tank 3. After 2500 mile i’m on my 3rd belt 4. Replaced the switches because of poor build quality and water getting in 5. I need to change the spark plugs and oil every 100 miles because when you shut the engine cold off the gasoline gets in the oil and the plugs just clog so it wont even start 6. The bushings are a joke 7. All the howling and clunky noises from the drivetrain 8. Brake pads are from recycled paper 9. Coolant hose clamp failed at 20 hrs. And the hose exploded ( did shut it off in time ) My dad has a 2007 renegade 800 with the same milenage and he just changes oil and still has the original belt and brake pads . Since can-am started to make these in mexico the quality went down like the titanic.
The Grizzly 700 is the Tacoma of the ATV world. It gets you where you want to go and is reliable as can be.
That's exactly why we own two of them !!! a 1999 and a 2020
which one is the chevy/gmc versions?
@@Carloss80kthe Can Am/Polaris definitely
Y honda a quien seria equivalente?@@sammiemakki9339
This is hands down the best atv I have ever owned...
I have a '11 550 and a '20 700 XT-R. I wouldn't even trade the 550 with over 3000 miles on it for any brand new any other brand. There is nothing better.
@@skeet25s kingquad maybe
@@soundnessofmind7196 I always forget about the Kingquad. I don't know why. It's the last wheeler I ever think of. The kingquad is definitely one of the best, but I like the Grizzlys engine braking better. Can't go wrong with the king quad though. Wasn't that the first machine with a true front diff lock?
@@skeet25s I had a (monster at the time) 1993 Suzuki king quad 300cc, it had 3 range gearbox (high, low, super low) and a true differential lock. Suzuki has had diff lock since early 90s and most didn’t have it till early 2000s.
I’m a Yamaha guy but my next will be a 2019-2022 Suzuki King Quad 750.
@@brokefarmerjohn2422 I remember that machine. I wanted one bad, but didn't have the money at the time. I was dreaming about that diff lock.
After watching all these videos on many machines I went with a 21 Grizzly SE and in 8 months and 750km of ownership it's been great! No issues other then ones I created. Fuel chip and exhaust helps with power and responsiveness although stock it's got more than enough of both. Overall pretty darn happy with it!
@canadian that's a great choice! I try to upload grizzly content every chance I can. Cheers!
Nice unit. Looks like it has a perfect balance for hunting, work around the property, and play.
I love my grandpa's 660 I have been riding scene i was 4.
Life would be put on hold if they came out with the 850 grizzly !
I agree. Scrap the Grizz 700 and make it an 850 and keep the Kodiak as their 700CC single option. Having two ATVs that are so comparable seems odd to me.
100% agree, The Kodiak is a FAR better option between the two, which I why I bought a Kodiak 700SE. The 2100$ I saved bought me my choice of Tires, winch, and a set of Grizzly clutch rollers.... and still left a grand in my wallet.
MotoMatt Luxury Items? It’s an ATV LoL! Kodiak has the 2 important “Luxury” Items, Power Steering and Diff Lock
I have a 20/20 Grizzly XT-R and a 20/20 Yamaha Kodiak Limited Edition .. they both have the 686 motor .. they use them completely different .. other than knowing the machines have the same power plant, there's no comparison and if I didn't know they both have a 686 I'd never know it by riding them. (The 686 is why I got them)
@@carpenterpatriot4139 what a pair to own! I myself am in the market for one of the two, which do you prefer owning both? I've heard a lot of people who are 6' tall say they aren't a fan of the seating position on the kodiak and it's lower seat. Thanks in advance and happy trails
I have a 20\20 Kodiak Limited Edition and a 20\20 Grizzly XT-R ... The Kodiak is a smoother softer ride .. I got that one for my wife and she loves it .. I definitely prefer the Grizzly XT-R .. I'm 6'2 225 and I'm a up on the tank rider, the seat is very comfortable .. the XT-R has way snappier throttle and you'll feel the more aggressive frame, tires, suspension and clutching right away .. when I say the big blocks like the 850s and 1000s can't keep up with me on the trails know, I'm not kidding .. it's not even close .. the only advantage they have is on some flat smooth straight aways which is the place I least prefer riding and note the advantage is very very slim (the guys with them can't believe I can ride right along side them like I do) .. it's amazing when you have both machines sitting side by side and know they both have the very same motors that the feel and power can fell so entirety different .. myself I did a lot of looking and test riding before I jumped and bought ($20,000 for 4wheelers is a lot of money) .. we ride the Wisconsin and Minnesota trails and both machines have performed flawless, Yamahas reputation for dependability is real .. I can't state enough how the 2 feel and perform so completely different .. and you can't beat those 686s for dependability, that motor is actually why I bought them, I ride in very remote places miles from civilization. I'm more than happy mine and not because it's the one I bought, because it truly is heads and shoulder above the others as far as (pleasure) trail riding .. the others seriously CAN NOT keep up on the trails .. go ride them all, decide for yourself (I did) you'll see what I'm talking about .. the Grizzly XT-R is an AWSOME machine !!! There's a reason Yamaha isn't jumping up into the big twins just to say they have one .. it's because the 686s are fantastic power plants. Know the Grizzly XT-Rs are a sport utility machine that leans heavily towards the sport side lol .. good luck with what ever machine you chose !!!
Makes me miss my old Grizz! The XT-R just looks phenomenal. Mike knocked this review outta the park! The ITP terracross would be my choice for it too, relatively light but still strong and awesome trail tread.. I'm always going to think the Grizzly is the perfect trail machine..
Thank you and agree 100 percent!!
I got a 2022 and would love to put terracross on it but they don’t make that size errrr I’m noticing this a lot and it’s frustrating .. I’d like bighornes OG to but no luck
Great review . I put 310 kms on my XTR this weekend and no complaints. Because compared to what else is out there , this is what I payed for . Thanks for your video .
Awesome! Thanks for commenting!!
great machine! I bought a 2020 Grizzly XTR, love it. My 1986 Yamaha Moto4 is still running. Legendary reliability is an understatement.
Same I got a 92 moto 4 and it runs great
Yes sir, that's why I haven't bought another grizzly im waiting for an 800/850/1000, power upgrade is definitely needed, be safe guys
850cc plus, adjustable shocks, 12 inch beadlocks are a dream we've been waiting to become reality. GREAT video
Awesome! Thank you very much!!
Yamaha is definitely a powerful machine.
I have the '19 SE, and feel the same way about the Grizzly. I had originally intended to shell out the money for performance shocks, but after riding my friends Outlander 650 and 850, have decided against it. Not full buyers remorse, I enjoy my Grizzly but there is a lot I'm still missing. The performance and handling for my type of riding. I hope that Yamaha or Honda come out with a larger bore performance oriented 4x4, or I may end up with an Outlander Xxc. Still keeping my Grizzly, and my Rincon because they're too good to get rid off.
Bought a ducks unlimited special edition in 2009 , quad has been bulletproof and I still ride it . Just bought a new Grizzly 700 and I am keeping the 2009 as well .great machines get you home every time ....
not sure if japanese ATV mfg, still have weight restrictions in ATV productions, but that is (at least was) THE OBSTACLE that was keeping twins and 2-ups from being made.
the boys' review of the outlander 6x6 is what made me buy mine last year, but i will never give up my yamaha!
Awesome!!
I owned a 2009 Brute Force, and I was incredibly close on pulling the trigger on 1 of these. But the lack of power is something I couldn’t get around, so I stuck with what I new and got a 2020 Brute Force. I would gladly look at them again down the road if they come out with a bigger motor.
Same here love my 19 brute force
Shoulda took one for a test ride .. My 2020 XR-T most definitely does NOT suffer from a lack of power .. I can run right with any of the 850s and 1000s on pavement and gravel roads but on the trails they can't even begin to keep up I'm constantly at the trails end waiting for them .. My XR-T is a trail shredder BIG TIME (second to NON in the sport utility or utilitiy machines of any size)... Only the 100% sport machines can out run me, and most of them can't ... Lol (to be fare tho, the Grizzly XR-Ts are sport utility quads that lean heavily to the sport side) just my opinion
Kawasaki haha
@@billb8862 what do you ride ?
Still enjoying the Brute? I'm trying to decide between the Grizzly and Brute. Does the Brute feel much more powerful?
This would be my choice for my next quad, just one problem. My 2000 Arctic Cat 500 4x4 just wont die...
I had a 2018 textron (articat) Alterra 300. Total garbage. Thing was scrap metal in 1 year with easy farm riding. Never trails or mud. Trans went, difs leaking, bad starter, lights stopped working.
Total nightmare.
Mike coming in from behind the scenes! Great prospective on the grizz, phenomenal machine but it’s time for Yammy to bring some more options at that price point.
As with ANY Grizz video they post, brace yourselves for all the “we want an 850 twin” comments that always accompany them! C’mon Yamaha....JUST DO IT! YES YOU CAN! MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE....just DO it! 😂
They have a 1000 twin now to
@@aldyson3469 not in the platform we want
@@texasadam4236 it mite not be thebplat form you want but don't say we. You don't talk for every one. And what I would personally like to see is the Kodak get the locker as an option for all models or standard and it takes the spot of the current grizzly then giv us an 850 and or 1000 grizzly with a 2 up option. Now that's just MY opinion but I feel like it would cover all the bases for yamaha.
But at the end of the day after talking to multiple yamaha reps it will never happen. at least no plans of that any time in the near future. Yamaha is willing to give that market to polaris and canam.the rest of the world is happy with yamaha 700s and honda 650s
@@aldyson3469 they could keep the Kodiak 700 and put out a V Twin 850 Grizzly. It’s almost as though the Japanese manufacturers hate money and sales. Sad they’re stuck in the 90s.
@@aldyson3469I don’t own a grizzly, but personally I think the 686 engine is one of the most reliable ever. I would probably still go for a Grizzly 700 just because it’s tried and tested even if they came out with an 850
I have a 2002 grizzly 660 limited and still runs like new with little to no machine failures, I will own other one if I can ever wear this one out!
I had a 2016 Griz, added the same tires and did the clutch shim mod. Worked well but it really needs another cylinder to make it exciting.
Not really. Do a big more kit
Brute force will walk all over a grizzly
Nice review a, yes I agree that and 850 would be a home run for them for sure. But that is a nice quad with lots of aftermarket support!! Always enjoy the reviews, keep up the good work
Thank you!!
I’ve never had a more reliable atv then a Yamaha .
*than
hope it's more reliable than your english teacher
My 2016 brute force has been a tank
Must not have owned a Honda 🤷🏻♂️
@@idk5005 Actually I'm buying a Honda pioneer 700 side by side this spring. can't wait.
@@snowypoem5591 actually it's my typing skills that suck and yes I am a little embarrassed.
Love my 2009 Grizzly 550! And though it rides like an off-road Cadillac, it’s also a dependable and agile trail eating ferocious beast!
The 550 is awesome. I'll ride mine until it falls apart.
Love the review. Always look to see what you guys think about the new models.
Thank you!!
Put the 700 engine in a 450 chassis and 850 in the big chassis. Loved the smaller chassis on my 450 but it could have used a bit more steam. I could smoke guys on bigger machines in the tight stuff, but didn't stand a chance when things opened up.
It had plenty of torque and I never had an issue of needing more power in any situation. Just wanted more power when my friends on the big machines would leave me for dead on the open trails and roads.
I have a Wolverine X2 850 XTR now, and I concur that this engine would be a great fit for a Big Quad. Very powerful, quiet, and compact.
Unpopular opinion...keep the Grizz with the 686 and design a completely new ATV with a 1000cc from the ground up. Make the Grizz with cheaper options like 25 inch tires for farm use and drop the kodiak 700. Move the entire line higher in the market. Probably never happen with a SxS buying market.
I have a Grizzy and Kodiak 700 but need that big power so I also have a Sportsman XP 1000 and Yamaha needs a 2 up Grizzy it would be a must have for me.
A 2up, 850cc Grizzly is exactly what I need. Make it happen Yamaha 😀
Same here. I’d buy it on day one
850 or 1000 V-twin and id go straight to the bank.
That would be great , a 2up 850. Come on Yamaha, like Quick 1911 sez . MAKE IT HAPPEN.
You read my mind. Please Yamaha make a 2up!
@yamaha where’s the 850-1000
I want an 850 in this so bad, that I would literally head to a dealer and trade in my Can Am Outlander 850 XT-P, which I absolutely love, on the spot! The Grizzly really is a phenomenal looking machine, especially in that new green color 2021 XTR
Man! That's just about the best testimonial Yamaha could ask for!!
How about the new 1000 out of the wolverine
The R Max motor has 108hp. If Yamaha was to put that in the grizzly it would be class leading by far haha
Bill B lol there’s no way, having this hard of a time just to put the 850 in the Grizzly which they’ve had in their parts bin for years
Nice review! I have a 2020(non xtr) as well but find the suspension too harsh. The trails in northern Quebec are pretty rocky. Shock options for this beast seem very limited. I'm not a big fan of elka and fox don't have them listed for that model year.
Having owned a 2021 700SE I agree with the too soft suspension. I have a 2012 Grizzly 550 and I find the suspension on that better than on my 700SE. Other than that I think Yamaha has made an awesome machine. The 700 has more than enough power for the tight and technical trails that I ride on around southern Ontario. More CCs and horsepower would not be any benefit.
Agree 💯
I own a 07 Grizzly 700. That thing has been tough as nails reliable since I pulled it off the showroom floor but that's the only thing I've ever loved about it. Everything else is just basic too me. I've never felt like it's done one thing very good apart from being reliable. I'd never consider another one until they engineer something fresh and exciting.
Fair enough.
I'm a outlander max xt 2020 owner, loving it but when I was making my mind on which atv to buy, I really liked the grizzly, I went with can am because Yamaha does not have 2 up models...
Still got yourself a great ATV.
I’ve owned many different brands including Yamaha. The grizzly is a fine machine for sure . I believe the ultramatic is the best CVT on the market followed by Suzuki and Kawasaki .
For me though it’s just to gutless . My old 2006 Brute force 650i absolutely ate that 686 for a snack . I’ve had 3 Brutes up to the redesigned 2012s and up, and an XP 1000 sportsman . I don’t know if even an 850 grizz would be enough , now......a 1000 grizz would have me grinning ear to ear , unless Kawasaki made a 1000 Brute lol .
Would love to see the BF get an overhaul and a new mill.
@@dirttraxtv Yamaha has a 998cc triple in its cupboard. Drop that into a quad and I'll buy one.
Just bought a new Grizz 700 in September 2021 ...Really lite front end, does not turn like a Sportsman!!
Ride is okay/power is good, but in close quarters really lite front end comes off a little dangerous!
I came off a BruteForce to a 2016 700 Grizz... Grizz is definitely a higher quality machine but does lack the bottom end that V Twin gives you. I would buy a 850 if Yamaha came out with one.
How is the Grizzly higher quality? I'm in the market. Thanks.
I had a 89 warrior & it never broke down ! Ran strong ! Now I’m older but still need the fun so grizzly can help with chores /farm & hauling my deer !
Im looking to buy an atv right now on the bubble but an 850 ....where do i sign no more looking
Yeah its close to the 500 cc v twins, but its a single so what do you expect exactly, you should be comparing it to other 700 cc singles which it compares pretty well to
Awesome review! Trail tires and adjustable piggy back shocks would make a world of difference on the Grizzly for sure!
Definitely!
14" wheels on the 700 Grizzly but 12" wheels on the 850 Wolverine SxS.... Brilliant!
coming from a 2014 foreman 500 i dont miss it at all. i love my 2018 708 grizzly almost 100hrs 800miles, not a single issue besides random stalls.
agree they need to up the engine size and expand the lineup. I currently own a Can Am 1000 XXC after 2 King quad 750s and a Grizzly 660. I would be on a Suzuki or Yamaha or even Honda if they would come out with some HP already. Doesn't even need to be class leading. But 75hp or 80hp with some good shocks..... come on, quit dragging your feet already. Polaris (yuck) and Can Am (meh) are running away with the competition.
Honestly the only reason I got a brute force 750 is because grizzlies don’t have a v twin. A grizzly is better in every way, more ground clearance, more suspension travel, better driveline and weirdly more towing and low end torque than the 750 I bought. But that power difference is just too much in my opinion.
fantastic review! I am back in the market for a quad, and miss my old Grizzly
Great review, agree with it %100
Thank you!!
Same
consider me a fired up Honda rider
does it beat the 04 660 though. my dad had one for years and it was a tank
Yamaha misses the mark yet again. There are too many offerings from other competitors with better options. You're right on the money with the 70% trail riding and using a Terra Cross as a tire. Same with the QS-3 shock offerings. Yamaha has the legendary reliability and classic looks. However, it is time they step it up in today's market
Do a comparison of all 700,750 sport utilities
I’ve been ready to buy a bigger/updated Grizzly for many years now and every year I’m disappointed. And this is coming from someone who loved my own 2011 Grizzly 700 EPS. Please Yamaha give us an 850 for 2022 and take my money!
Well said!
I’ve been in the same boat with my 2011 Rincon. Looking to upgrade but waiting for a Yamaha or Honda twin. I sometimes find myself looking at the Kawasaki and thinking ‘should I?’
On of my only complaints of my 2016 kodiak 700 is the lack of power
Definetly would go back to Yamaha. When and if the put the big bore in the grizz. Love yamahas reliability and i know the more power typically means more breakage but hey as long as I'm having fun ill take the occasional small issue. PLEASE YAMAHA MAKE A BIG BORE GRIZZLY. So many people have left Yamaha strictly due to wanting that big bore power.
I still ride a 98 big bear 350 and it’s fun and super versatile but I can’t tell you how much fun I’ve had on big bore atvs
to be perfectly honest my 700 goes 110kph and can wheelie all day i dunno any trail which you feel like more is needed. that being said a 1000cc sure id take if it were the same reliability
@@trucks_n_tractors_6335 I went from one of those to a sportsman 700. That big beast can go to work, I was keeping up with honda rincon 680s
@@trucks_n_tractors_6335 Hej… I owned a big bear pro as well… Great machine! I had to sell it years a go. Now I’m thinking of buying a quad again… a Yamaha Grizzly 700 this time. Greetings from Belgium! 😉👍
Great review ! 850 V-twin , snorkel , and the rebuildable / Fox suspension like you pointed out and they wouldn’t be able to manufacture the Griz fast enough to meet the demands !
I’m personally ok with the 686cc power plant, but definitely too mushy on the suspension and the snorkel should have been standard equipment LONG AGO !
meh ive been through way more water than i should have its fine just keep the throttle down and youre good, any more and youd need a jetski
Anyone else waiting for the grizzly 850 or 1000?????
Bill Wilson there’s a market I would get one
Buying this machine soon, coming from a 1000 can am, big horsepower is cool, until you chew up your drive train, im very excited to have a bike with less power
My dad had a brute force 750 and now a scrambler 850 i guess it’s just what you prefer
keep waiting. doesnt seem like yamaha has no desire to make an ATV over 700cc
Yes.
Why do they list this as having high mounted intakes but not a single channel has shown where they are?
I wish you would have talked about, Yamaha clutch and drive train. And tell why it is different from the other VSP, and talk about their 10 warranty, on the drive clutch.
I own one of these and mine is a freaking beast
The dct in my Honda is awesome. I hate thr belt on my king quad. Love it anyway. Till I get in deep
yes great review as usual I think Yamaha Honda Suzuki and kawi all need to build a 2 up and larger bore like you said 800 better yet 850 go big or go home thank you Lester great review
I absolutely love the Grizzly 700 but I can't help but be irritated that they STILLLLLL don't give us a V twin option.
Awesome. They are sexy machines, just like that new Yamaha RMAX1000 which Dirt Trax will hopefully be reviewing soon. Heck, I'm 15 minutes away from Yamaha's head office, I can pick it up for you. What's the best route from Markham to Minden. 404N. Lol.
Don't know if it'll fit in the back of your truck with the Kodiak though LOL!!
@@dirttraxtv ya have a point there.
I would like a Grizzly with a similar engine as my Yamaha MT-07 motorcycle...689cc twin. 74hp and torquey.
That would be awsome!
I would most definitely buy a two-up Grizzly! Build it Yamaha...Please.
When will we see a brute force 750 review?
We have not been able to get one from Kawi yet. When we do you will!
That Honda comment made me laugh . Tho Yamaha has a amazing cvt but I still haven't been convinced it's the way to go. For a sled yes but not for a atv in my opinion
Fair enough.
Why?
I have found on more than one occasion cvt makes things like hill climbs way better and safer!
I have seen and (oops) rolled an ATV due to the steepness and need to gear down vrs a cvt, more throttle is all that’s needed!
@@1966cambo when you use it for work. That is when you want real gears.
Matthew Juntunen yup, most farmers buy Honda because they are not out riding rough stuff, working them.
Also for MPG. You can manually shift into a high hear when you are just cruising down a trail and because there is less power loss in a geared tranny plus selecting the higher ratio you can sip fuel on a honda. My buddies on Brutes are always anxiously checking their fuel gauges when we are on the long trails.
I think Yamaha is being a little lazy with an 850 because they don't need to compete in that class, since they are the only ones making a lightweight sport quad. Why spend the effort on a big bore when you own the market of what is still a fairly popular corner of the ATV market.
If Yamaha comes out with a twin for an atv , they should revamp the bear 🐻 names . Two Kodiaks ? And a grizzly is smaller than a Kodiak ? Polar bear being the largest .
So folks can say they killed a polar bear 😂. Would dilute the tree hugging folks.
Yamaha got a couple of names in their back pocket like Timberwolf, BigBear and if they go v-twin there's the Vmax! If they want to cross names like Can am/Skidoo there's the Sidewinder that could stand in front of the Renegade with the Rmax 1000 motor. Yamaha is missing the boat on the atv market. Yamaha has to do the that twin swap 850/1000.
I have a kodiak 700 special edition i love it but i want Yamaha to make a v twin big bore
I have owned everything but a can-am and yamaha honda was fun and a tank but I loved my suzuki king quad 500axi would love too own a yamaha grizzly one day
You nailed this one man! Yamaha you are losing riders to Can Am and Polaris! Wake up.
Yep, I would have bought a Grizz 2up if they made it, especially with 850 v twin. Bought a 850 Can am Max and LOVE IT.
@@jasonspencer384 I've talked to a lot of people that switched from Yamaha to one of the more powerful brands. They mostly all say they would switch back if Yamaha would just make a move...
Let's see how the bike works with those mud tires! Skeg or mudding video would be great!
I'd even settle for a grizzly 650 (V twin) if it had around 65 H.P like the Outlander has.
I'd like a little be more power but i don't need an 850 or 1000
Hell i'd buy another grizzly (that would be my 4th grizzly and 6th Yamaha in total ) if they had a better suspension.
but after 20 years of Yamaha i'm seriously looking at the Can-Am's
Very good video
Looking at new atvs, my question is new grizzly 700 or outlander 650 xtp or possibly a 850.
Great video agan thanks 👍
A year later, a pandemic later, Japanese manufacturers are like, hey let me do little improvements, change color schemes, different names and tire packages and increase the msrp 5-10% annually and no one will notice…..
Still think this unit deserve a lot of props. I’m a Bruteforce guy and if I needed another quad I’d give this a look but it’s so frustrating we can’t another atv arms race in either the sport utility or sport atv world….yes I know, sxs have taken over…. Still there is a bunch of atv enthusiasts who are begging for something totally radically, totally new
Love to have one of these quads along with my Raptor 700R
Heck yes!
When are going take the grizzly to the 1,000 class and I also would like to see the motor have a turbo on the 1000.
Agree on the two-up. Where I live, two-ups are the law for carrying a passenger. To not be forced to buy a less than reliable machine for far-back country trips would be ideal (not AC, Pol, CanHam).... and the P500 from Honda is too small in the driver's seat for me to drive. Everything else is in the SxS market is well beyond the price of a typical two up quad and doesn't fit on a lot of our trails. Thus, a two-up reliable quad would be huge from Honda or Yamaha. Not sure I agree yet on the 850 however.... unless someone can state the weight difference here between the 686 and 850... would it be worth adding 50-150 lbs (guessing) to the nimble Grizzly??? for the sake of a twin??
My buddy has a p500 an at 6'5 I fit no problem. The only problem I have is whack my head off the top bar when it gets bumpy
@@dawsonmatthys5162 LOL. I'm only 6' but with 33" inseam and heavy hunting boots and cold weather gear, I have to cramp my leg in an uncomfortable position to drive my buddy's 2017. If the seat (or seatback) could move back 1-2" I would be sorted and would have bought one as I love my Rubicon and it's engine. I ended up with a Viking for a SxS... room to breath for three large males wearing gear for all day cold weather hunting! Maybe I slouch too much...!
That's what I've wondered too. What makes the Grizzly so fun is that it's so much lighter than other similar models. Making it a lot heavier just for the sake of a few more ponies isn't worth it to me. But we don't know how heavy that 850 really is. If it isn't more than 50 pounds heavier, that's a lot tougher call than if it's over 100 pounds heavier.
@@ExpeditionaryRanger yea I get that too, kinda have to ride spread eagle a bit lol, but I don't mind. Aslong as I can get muddy I'm happier than a pig in slop.
Yes that 700 is so slow !!! Get that 850 put in there and I’ll be the first one at the dealer to be putting one in my truck
Yeah...use the mt09 triple cylinder!
Motorcycle Michael I would even settle for the 700 engine in the tenere 700 and mt07. I’ve been on Can Ams and Polaris but would look seriously at a higher performance Yamaha Grizzly or even a Brute Fore that was updated with more engine performance and plastics so it didn’t look like it was 20 years old.
YAMAHA Needs to move the rear axle back 2 inches to keep the front wheels on the ground! Sure it looks great wheeling with your buddies on flat ground. Take on a anything more then 30 degree slops and bump up 45 degree angel Hill and your wishing it had more weight up front. There Not built for Hill climbing. ESP with a box on the back and gear.
They seriously need a 850, I’m ready to pull the trigger but the 750’s are really making me consider the two 1000’s on the market. It sucks because I’ve owned a brp product (seadoo) and know they are great but not the best long term and Polaris always had that tarnished name from back in the day. I use to ride a 350 warrior and it took a beating so Yamaha is my go to brand but the pack of offer is upsetting
Way to go big brother.
I been waiting for this here I found a brand new one for 7100 or either the Polaris 500 side by side for 8400
Hi what do you think about CF ATV
Dirt Trax! In your opinion what is the best sounding quad you have driven? If its a Brute i will understand. :)
Could be! Sounds pretty baller for a stock ATV.
Awesome bike. Love my 2020 grizzly 700 xtr se. I did change the tires right away to staggered sized 30 inch monster mayhams, NO LIFT NEEDED FOR 30s... 💪😁👍
My only complaint is how hot the glove box behind the handle bars gets. To FIX THIS I cut and installed a sheet of thin aluminum under the glove box and fasened it to the frame with 4 zip ties. Nite and day difference in the temperature inside the box. I can safely put my phone in there with no worries.
And there is also a spot just above and ahead of the muffler that gets so hot my wife burnt her leg on the fender. This area also got a extra heat shield made from aluminum installed. Again nite and day difference.
I really don't care for the squared tire sizing on the grizzly, especially because they put fronts on the rear. Pretty cheesy fad if you ask me. I'd perfer my atv to be able to float just in case I broke through the ice in the fall or winter. Recovery would be way easier. The reason I say that, my 1983 trimoto 200E has never once been sunk and stalled out due to drinking water. Ive even drivin out into the lake and rode out and around the floating dock we swim from at camp on ghis 3 wheeler. Try to do that on today's boat ankers.
Not a fan of the square tire setup either. Steering feels really heavy with those bigger tires up front with the bigger lugs. I would prefer more EPS input to compensate OR just go with a regular tire setup and with trail tires. Smart idea with the heat shields. That compartment gets hot enough to render a Gatorade undrinkable, though it was pointed out that it is a great spot to put extra gloves in colder weather.
Careful with the 30s and no lift, my 2018 smoked the headlight bracket with my 30 inch maxxzillas and i had to put a lift on
I just bought a 2020 Grizzly 700 XTR. It feels like a regular grizzly with taller tires
For that much $ I want a twin. Yamaha has the FZ07 engine. Borrow it's top end. For a 850-1000 do the same thing with the FZ09.
This guy in his Jeans reminds me of that bmo harris commercial. "Those jeans are wayyy to tight" lmao
Hey ! Good video DT ! I too am a 2 grizzly owner (2008, 2017) and I think you guys hit on all good points, they really do need to upgrade the power plant to the 850-1000cc. I agree the Yamaha CVT should be on all machines, it's so smooth and not jerky at all, it's the way to go for sure. And like you said Better shocks is a Must. I'd keep the 686 for the Kodiak and they should make a 450 Kodiak again. thanks !
Right on. Just watched your walk-around of your 2017 Grizzly. Great job on that. Everyone on here should go over and check that out. Tons of honest, real-world information there.
Hi what do you think about CF ATV
@@santiagogamboa4484 CF Moto ??
@@Maritimer CF moto cforce 625 thanks
Is this more like a slower, "stiff 4WD" ATV or how can it be described compared to other sporty "AWD" ATVs?
I'd put the 686 single in the 500-class engine category comparably. It's pretty quick and nimble, but it is not a 1000cc V-Twin monster.
@@dirttraxtv I was asking more about the drive system, but thanks for the info.
I have this one as well 2" lift kit and 2" risers on the bars. ( NOT 5 minute job) lol I love her to death!! Did slice open a sidewall and slice a front boot.
hi every one. i have 2007 honda foreman 500cc. it has never gave me any trouble for 8 years that i own it, what is grizzly 700 like for power and for break downs and parts. thanks.
Does anyone know if the 700 engine has any improvements for 2020 or 2021?
I owned a 2017 grizz with the 708 cc engine. It backfired and ran hotter than it should. I sold it but am reconsidering the new 2021. I cant seem to find much online. I know the 2019 they changed back to their old engine but it still was running lean.
A return of the Wolverine as a Renegade 1000 beater with the RMAX 1000 110hp same for the Griz to beat Can am Out-XT-p 1000r.
Make something that handle and that pulls hard! I'm on the hunt for a Can am XT 1000R Move!!
This is actually kinda funny.
Im actually selling my Sportsman 850 touring due to the fact ive had nothing but problems with it.
And was probably going to pick up the Grizzly XTR
I've been thinking about upgrading my 2008 grizzly to a 2-up. What in particular about the sportsman went wrong?
@@trevorchadwick7649 so, in order of occurrence.
My belt shredded itself after 1 year of sitting. (And yes, it sat. My brothers 2004 660 Grizzly is on its original belt.)
Clutch seized up after its first (and only) mud run.
And at the start of the year, the front diff exploded.
Its a 2016 850 Sportsman touring.
Had 300 miles when the diff went.
Dont get me wrong though, the bike has a ridiculous amount of power, and rides wonderfully. I just had a lemon i think.
If you ride 90% trails, you shouldnt have any issues what so ever.
Are Can-ams more reliable than Polaris?
@@loranger6447 i have experience with Polaris and Yamaha.
I do know Can-am is incredible reliable, but expensive
I’m thinking of selling my 2017 can am outlander 570 for the grizz because i have only problems with it 1. The rear diff is ready to blow up any minute
2. Now the engine is pouring coolant of the overflow tank
3. After 2500 mile i’m on my 3rd belt
4. Replaced the switches because of poor build quality and water getting in
5. I need to change the spark plugs and oil every 100 miles because when you shut the engine cold off the gasoline gets in the oil and the plugs just clog so it wont even start
6. The bushings are a joke
7. All the howling and clunky noises from the drivetrain
8. Brake pads are from recycled paper
9. Coolant hose clamp failed at 20 hrs. And the hose exploded ( did shut it off in time )
My dad has a 2007 renegade 800 with the same milenage and he just changes oil and still has the original belt and brake pads .
Since can-am started to make these in mexico the quality went down like the titanic.