Venne V. Simply comparing campaigns doesnt prove your point. We were in a season where nobody really dominated the nba like the past years. Another thing is that russel westbrook was seen as a 2nd option for the thunder & mamaged to give them a large chance at simply making the playoffs after coming back from injury & leading the nba in PPG & better APG than lebron, harden, & stephen curry. Not to mention he is in the western conference which is honestly a harder conference simply because more than half of the teams have a winning record. While a team can have a losing record in the eastern conference & still make the playoffs.
'09 was Wades best year but it was also one of LeBrons, LeBron didn't steal anything, he was definitely the MVP that year. Wade was on another level though
If only wade stayed in the game, he could of had more than 60 points, and if he was never injured, him, bosh and lebron would have broken the 73-9 record, won 4 championships and wade would be the leader if the team not lebron
MVP biggest robberies in sports - Kobe Bryant over CP3 2007-08 Tim Duncan over Jason Kidd 2001-02 Dwayne Wade 2008-09 Wilt - 1961-62 Now if we are talking NFL. John Elway over Jerry Rice 1987 Peyton Manning over Chris Johnson 2009 Aaron Rodgers over JJ Watt 2015 Peyton Manning over Drew Brees 2010
Lebron put up the most ridiculous numbers that's why. They basically avg the same points but lebron had almost nine assists pg and more rebounds than wade and they were similar in steals and blocks and fg% and lebrons team won a lot more games…it was kind of a no brainer even though it was by far wades best season
Jay Mack Wade had more assists, points, blocks, steals per game. Lebron did not average anywhere near 9 assists per game. Another detail that should have gotten more attention, is the Heat won 15 games the year before (Wade was injured). Wade took them to the playoffs almost singlehandedly. Lebron:28.44 PPG (2nd in NBA), 7.57 RPG, 7.25 APG (10th in NBA), 1.69 SPG (7th in NBA), 1.15 BPG, 48.9 FG%, 789 FGM (3rd in NBA), 78.0 FT%, 594 FTM (1st in NBA),132 3PTM Wade:30.20 PPG (1st in NBA), 7.46 APG (9th in NBA), 5.04 RPG, 2.19 SPG (2nd in NBA), 1.34 BPG, 49.1 FG%, 854 FGM (1st in NBA), 76.5 FT%, 590 FTM (2nd in NBA), 88 3PTM
I thought it was the 09-10 season.Cuz if it was that was Lebron's best statistical season in his career I think..but if not yes, you're right about the stats. But Lebron was the best player in the league by then for at least 2 years (yes including Kobe) and has been since (yes including Durant). He's not even my favorite player. It's just a fact, he's so complete.
This is the year D-Wade came the closest to the MVP, but since the best player on the best team in the league usually gets it, it had to go to lebron, but lebron also had a great year
LeBron could have gone to teams that have other all stars but he chose to play with wade because he knows that next to him he could go straight for the gold, no disrespect to other great players but I don't really think he would have won the rings with just any other all star as you put it; wade is just a special player, and despite his injuries and whatnot he's been a killer year after year, as for clearly ineffective during last year's playoffs? If that would have been the case there wouldn't be another ring for this team,sure he wasn't a hundred percent, but his 80 percent worked just fine man, I think you're really off when you doubt his endurance and toughness, that's precisely what makes him the player he is,the fact that he has those plus one of the highest basketball IQs. And that comparison between him and pippen? Just doesn't make sense to me that you'd attempt it given how different the bulls from that time were put next to the heat nowdays, and the totally different roles those two players have. Wade not along for the ride,man! Watch for the upcoming playoffs so you'll see what I mean, no wade,no rings! If you think or a majority of people think LeBron is a better player then great, but I'll just have to disagree
4:42 so smooth and explosive... Wade in his prime was as graceful and dominant on both sides of the ball as any of the goats. Top 3 SG no question. If you try to argue Harden because of his stats then your opinion becomes invalid... Don't @ Me
1000%. This era was also different than the league now. Wade was putting up 25 a night without a three point shot, and when bigs roamed the paint. Back then you’d only get 85-90 possessions a game, where now teams be averaging 100-110 possessions a game. 30ppg in 08-09 compares to 40ppg nowadays
Wade is a better player than Lebron no matter the year, he makes plays and takes shots you're never gonna see from Lebron. That said, it was smart to put em together cos they're not gonna be beaten that way
Victor Jennings he isnt better then lebron no one is if you see lebrons games hes a freak its almost certain hes gona score that possesion, and his passing ability and thleticism is more then wade, and hes shooting almost 60% from the field this season, wade hasnt seen this level..
sorry dude, my opinion is that Wade is a better player, maybe Lebron is a better player in yours, and that's perfectly ok also, that's why there is diversity of choices
Now people i want you to take a look at 2:58 as Chalmers was taking that shot you barely see any Miami Heat fans but now all of sudden everybody is a Heat fan amazing. Bandwagoners.
the Heat is a young franchise, only 25 years of existence. I haven't been to a game and I consider myself a die hard Heat fan because I'm in front of my TV every single time the Heat play (even against the Bobcats). The majority of people in Miami prefer to stay at home and watch the game from their couch. Just watch how many people celebrate after the two last titles.
Lmao, look at the amount of empty seats in the stands just 4 years ago, and now every single heat game all you see are white shirts, ahah, and they claim they're not bandwagoners..
Lebrons team won 66 games and lebron put up numbers unseen since Michael and won't be seen for a while…No brainer on the MVP that year people, sorry. Dwades best season though. 3rd best sg of all time hands down gotta love em
Dwade all The way You can't even spell and I'm the idiot? Lol. Get the fuck out of here troll. The ppg was icing on the historically great statistical cake that went with it. I'm talking about full stat lines here, and player efficiency. The numbers don't lie. Wade was great too though.
Dwade all The way How are you going to write Lebron's and Wade's stats wrong...? Lebron actually had 28.4ppg 7.6rpg 7.2apg 1.7stpg 1.1 bpg and Wade had 30.2ppg 5rpg 7.5apg 2.2stpg 1.3bpg. Both of those stat lines are amazing. Wade's Player Efficiency Rating that year was 30.36 which is the 14th highest of all time, but Lebron's Player Efficiency Rating was 31.67 which is the 4th highest of all time...and as we know Lebron's team won 66 games that year compared to Wade's team which won 43 games...I don't know how young you are but MVPs usually go to superstars who have amazing team success, so saying Lebron didn't deserve it that year over Wade is absolutely not true. Both players were equally deserving of the MVP that year over any other player in the league but at the end of the day team success matters a lot too, and that is just how MVP awards work...
Look again b, his assist were 5.2. And no lebron also had shaq on his team that year. And 43 games to win is enough with those numbers, look at kevin durant in 2014 his pog was 30.6 almost the same as wades. And his team didnt win that much, so thats how i judge mvp.
Dwade all The way LMAO!!! You are speaking so much out of your ass. Are you ready to see how stupid you are? First of all Shaq was not playing on Cleveland in the 2008-2009 season, second of all you need to look again "b", Lebron averaged 7.2 assists...why don't you go look it up for yourself on NBA.com...lastly Kevin Durant's team won 59 games during his MVP year....you realize everything you are writing are just pigments of your imagination...you are too blinded by your love for Wade(who actually is my favorite player of all time along with Lebron and Iverson) that you are making up things and writing them. HAHAHAHA im done, this is hilarious
The year when I thought wade would get the MVP. He was magnificent all year. #HeatLifer
what do you know about basketball
He should've, absolutely robbed that year
Who said Wade cant shoot 3's ??? Dudes greatest in his prime of all time
not quite.
Wade shoulda been mvp
+elliot dubois his team needed a better record unfortunately
+Bruce Hoseok Lee they got into the playoffs that was good enough, mvp has nothing to do with your record
+ETHIOPIANASSASIN unfortunately your record does have something to do with it. its the way the award works
if you say it has nothing to do with record then you clearly don't watch basketball
If your record has something to do with it. How come Westbrook won MVP ?
Tha 09 season Wade got robbed for tha MVP smh
An MVPs Teams Win Loss Record Also Matters When They Choose An MVP
Miguel Meza then why the hell would the NBA consider Westbrook for MVP and his team didn't even make the playoffs?????
Venne V. Reread my comment. It CLEARLY states "Win Loss Record". Where did you see playoffs involved? The thunder had a winning record.
Miguel Meza the Heat had a winning record in 08-09 but Westbrook campaign for MVP was much larger than Wade's
Venne V. Simply comparing campaigns doesnt prove your point. We were in a season where nobody really dominated the nba like the past years. Another thing is that russel westbrook was seen as a 2nd option for the thunder & mamaged to give them a large chance at simply making the playoffs after coming back from injury & leading the nba in PPG & better APG than lebron, harden, & stephen curry. Not to mention he is in the western conference which is honestly a harder conference simply because more than half of the teams have a winning record. While a team can have a losing record in the eastern conference & still make the playoffs.
The year (in my mind) LeBron STOLE the MVP from dwade. Dwade was simply a one man army that year
so was james but he got the popular vote that time.
'09 was Wades best year but it was also one of LeBrons, LeBron didn't steal anything, he was definitely the MVP that year. Wade was on another level though
Well LeBron i think deserved it you can say LBJ had the better team but not by much and yet the cavs still won 66 games that year
Wade> lebron in 04-09
Frickle Frackle That's why LeBron won a scoring title AND MVP as opposed to just Wades scoring title?
If only wade stayed in the game, he could of had more than 60 points, and if he was never injured, him, bosh and lebron would have broken the 73-9 record, won 4 championships and wade would be the leader if the team not lebron
LeBron would never be able to put his ego aside.
nach den letzten spielen von dwade,guck ich mir sowas ndoch super gerne an!! der 08/09 wade war einfach der beste.
MVP biggest robberies in sports - Kobe Bryant over CP3 2007-08
Tim Duncan over Jason Kidd 2001-02
Dwayne Wade 2008-09
Wilt - 1961-62
Now if we are talking NFL.
John Elway over Jerry Rice 1987
Peyton Manning over Chris Johnson 2009
Aaron Rodgers over JJ Watt 2015
Peyton Manning over Drew Brees 2010
This nigga had the game sliders up
flash...
Damn Wade was roasting
yep they don't show up when you losing, just like they started to leave in game 6 of the finals vs San Antonio
Anyone else find it odd that Wade was performing this well when the next season was a contract renewal season?
N still got jerked from his contract pat riley even said it
yep
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MV3
Klay Thompson has surpassed D wade
123KOBEMVP hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
123KOBEMVP this is the funniest thing ive read #nottryingtolaugh
123KOBEMVP
I outta slap yo mouth
That was the worst week for the knicks ever.... Kobe , lebron, and dwade all dropped over 40
they all had 50
There is NO reason why they didnt give MVP to d wade in 09 and 11
Lebron flat out stoled that MVP
"DWade last 14 games at home he is averaging 36 pts a game" RAW
REAL HEAT FANS KNOW WHO YAKHOUBA DIARA AND CHRIS QUINN ARE
Quinn still on the coaching staff
Chris Quinn was decent at Notre Dame back in day
08-09 mvp. Robbed.
It is truly amazing how D-WADE did not win that Mvp award that year. They gave that shit to lebron.
Lebron put up the most ridiculous numbers that's why. They basically avg the same points but lebron had almost nine assists pg and more rebounds than wade and they were similar in steals and blocks and fg% and lebrons team won a lot more games…it was kind of a no brainer even though it was by far wades best season
Jay Mack
Wade had more assists, points, blocks, steals per game. Lebron did not average anywhere near 9 assists per game. Another detail that should have gotten more attention, is the Heat won 15 games the year before (Wade was injured). Wade took them to the playoffs almost singlehandedly.
Lebron:28.44 PPG (2nd in NBA), 7.57 RPG, 7.25 APG (10th in NBA), 1.69 SPG (7th in NBA),
1.15 BPG, 48.9 FG%, 789 FGM (3rd in NBA), 78.0 FT%, 594 FTM (1st in NBA),132 3PTM
Wade:30.20 PPG (1st in NBA), 7.46 APG (9th in NBA), 5.04 RPG, 2.19 SPG (2nd in NBA),
1.34 BPG, 49.1 FG%, 854 FGM (1st in NBA), 76.5 FT%, 590 FTM (2nd in NBA), 88 3PTM
I thought it was the 09-10 season.Cuz if it was that was Lebron's best statistical season in his career I think..but if not yes, you're right about the stats. But Lebron was the best player in the league by then for at least 2 years (yes including Kobe) and has been since (yes including Durant). He's not even my favorite player. It's just a fact, he's so complete.
@@juicyfruitjay 09-10 that was lebron's, but 08-09 Wade was out of this world and definitely should be the rightful mvp.
d wade should have win that mvp i hate LeBron who agree with me
Was at this game. Still remember like yesterday. I remember in the 3rd quarter saying, man if he keeps it up, he can go for 60!
This is the year D-Wade came the closest to the MVP, but since the best player on the best team in the league usually gets it, it had to go to lebron, but lebron also had a great year
Dwyane wade was awesome in 2009 he should have won MVP that year
LeBron could have gone to teams that have other all stars but he chose to play with wade because he knows that next to him he could go straight for the gold, no disrespect to other great players but I don't really think he would have won the rings with just any other all star as you put it; wade is just a special player, and despite his injuries and whatnot he's been a killer year after year, as for clearly ineffective during last year's playoffs? If that would have been the case there wouldn't be another ring for this team,sure he wasn't a hundred percent, but his 80 percent worked just fine man, I think you're really off when you doubt his endurance and toughness, that's precisely what makes him the player he is,the fact that he has those plus one of the highest basketball IQs. And that comparison between him and pippen? Just doesn't make sense to me that you'd attempt it given how different the bulls from that time were put next to the heat nowdays, and the totally different roles those two players have. Wade not along for the ride,man! Watch for the upcoming playoffs so you'll see what I mean, no wade,no rings! If you think or a majority of people think LeBron is a better player then great, but I'll just have to disagree
4:42 so smooth and explosive... Wade in his prime was as graceful and dominant on both sides of the ball as any of the goats. Top 3 SG no question. If you try to argue Harden because of his stats then your opinion becomes invalid... Don't @ Me
1000%. This era was also different than the league now. Wade was putting up 25 a night without a three point shot, and when bigs roamed the paint. Back then you’d only get 85-90 possessions a game, where now teams be averaging 100-110 possessions a game. 30ppg in 08-09 compares to 40ppg nowadays
Wade is a better player than Lebron no matter the year, he makes plays and takes shots you're never gonna see from Lebron. That said, it was smart to put em together cos they're not gonna be beaten that way
Nah man, you probably don't pay much attention to games but it is the truth
rolando mota lol i dont know about that man i mean wade is a superstar but i dont think he's better than LeBron
Victor Jennings he isnt better then lebron no one is if you see lebrons games hes a freak its almost certain hes gona score that possesion, and his passing ability and thleticism is more then wade, and hes shooting almost 60% from the field this season, wade hasnt seen this level..
sorry dude, my opinion is that Wade is a better player, maybe Lebron is a better player in yours, and that's perfectly ok also, that's why there is diversity of choices
well ok then
back when wade was the best player on the planet and was on his prime time!
This Wade would individually have surpassed Lebron's career.
LeBron killed Wade's aggression and a huge part of his legacy. Bosh and Wade as a 1/2 punch would've been great.
The year Wade deserved MVP
Hall of famer top 5 greatest player to ever play this game
I miss this dwayne wade
He chose not to shoot, so that Glen Rice could keep the record. What a guy!
People talk about lebrons supporting cast, but Wade's was garbage. Except Udonis Haslem
yeah man,,,,,,,i have it...next weeks its comin....i think,,i have not so much time.....
In this year,Absolute control on the court
Lebron played with this Wade one year. That showed Wade's unselfishness. By one year, i mean a near prime Wade.
D.Wade is the 2009 MVP but LeBron Stole it. :(
Now people i want you to take a look at 2:58 as Chalmers was taking that shot you barely see any Miami Heat fans but now all of sudden everybody is a Heat fan amazing. Bandwagoners.
That stepback jumper at 4:43 tho
So many empty seats? Where are all the heat fans these days coming from? #bandwagonerProud
DWade is the GOAT
I'll put you back to kinder and teach you how to speak ENGLISH!!!
THIS is the D-Wade I know, he could do everything AND he was fast, but since LeBron came to town he got lazy.
He got robbed!
Nigga was a nightmare coming off them screens
the Heat is a young franchise, only 25 years of existence. I haven't been to a game and I consider myself a die hard Heat fan because I'm in front of my TV every single time the Heat play (even against the Bobcats). The majority of people in Miami prefer to stay at home and watch the game from their couch. Just watch how many people celebrate after the two last titles.
Lmao, look at the amount of empty seats in the stands just 4 years ago, and now every single heat game all you see are white shirts, ahah, and they claim they're not bandwagoners..
Do you have any of magic Johnson's legendary games??
If you were truly a die hard fan and lived in Miami but have never been to a heat game... simply put, you're not a "die hard" fan.
Yes bandwagon, even though 2010-2011 season was the first that I started watching basketball.
He never fully recovered from his injury if you were a true fan you would know that
Before LeBron he was number 6.
Man, I just hope Wade does thesame thing to the Spurs on Game 4.
I'm sorry. I should have been a fan of the NBA all my life.
He did it
I know. I didn't watch Basketball Until the 10-11 season.
Bandwagonnnnnnnnnnnn
Mario was number 6?
no he is number15
d-wades house of thrills hahaha best quote ever 0:35
Uao...
carrer high baby
I was at this game
True fan you are
he changed it for LBJ..
for really
LeBron still deserved MVP tho
dwayne wade was never considered one of the greatest players ever....these commentators are sippin too much of that jäger
He is ABSOLUTELY one of the greatest ever. 3rd best shooting guard of all time
He is ABSOLUTELY one of the greatest ever. 3rd best shooting guard of all time
Troll
Yo who the fuckkk was Yakhouba Dhiawara??!?
Lebrons team won 66 games and lebron put up numbers unseen since Michael and won't be seen for a while…No brainer on the MVP that year people, sorry. Dwades best season though. 3rd best sg of all time hands down gotta love em
He put up numbers that seen evwry year dumbas fuck! 28 points a game isnt that good
Dwade all The way You can't even spell and I'm the idiot? Lol. Get the fuck out of here troll. The ppg was icing on the historically great statistical cake that went with it. I'm talking about full stat lines here, and player efficiency. The numbers don't lie. Wade was great too though.
Dwade all The way How are you going to write Lebron's and Wade's stats wrong...? Lebron actually had 28.4ppg 7.6rpg 7.2apg 1.7stpg 1.1 bpg and Wade had 30.2ppg 5rpg 7.5apg 2.2stpg 1.3bpg. Both of those stat lines are amazing. Wade's Player Efficiency Rating that year was 30.36 which is the 14th highest of all time, but Lebron's Player Efficiency Rating was 31.67 which is the 4th highest of all time...and as we know Lebron's team won 66 games that year compared to Wade's team which won 43 games...I don't know how young you are but MVPs usually go to superstars who have amazing team success, so saying Lebron didn't deserve it that year over Wade is absolutely not true. Both players were equally deserving of the MVP that year over any other player in the league but at the end of the day team success matters a lot too, and that is just how MVP awards work...
Look again b, his assist were 5.2. And no lebron also had shaq on his team that year. And 43 games to win is enough with those numbers, look at kevin durant in 2014 his pog was 30.6 almost the same as wades. And his team didnt win that much, so thats how i judge mvp.
Dwade all The way LMAO!!! You are speaking so much out of your ass. Are you ready to see how stupid you are? First of all Shaq was not playing on Cleveland in the 2008-2009 season, second of all you need to look again "b", Lebron averaged 7.2 assists...why don't you go look it up for yourself on NBA.com...lastly Kevin Durant's team won 59 games during his MVP year....you realize everything you are writing are just pigments of your imagination...you are too blinded by your love for Wade(who actually is my favorite player of all time along with Lebron and Iverson) that you are making up things and writing them. HAHAHAHA im done, this is hilarious