This has been a great series. Alot to learn. I like that it wasn't compressed into 20mins skipping a bunch of stuff. The future looks bright for Tinman's saws
That saw sounds awesome! With your eyes closed You’d swear it sounds like a nasty 044, NOPE it’s a freaking Echo!! Lol That’s going to be a nice little saw for someone!! Take care Tinman!!
Great video! You have as much as us in the city, east has a fair bit couple weeks back on a ride. Echo sounds gooooooood👌 pulling harder is an understatement from what I have experienced so far lol like an angry animal woke up
Great work Tinman! That saw’s a beast now. I’d love one just like that. How many cc’s is that? Not to worry, I’m going back to watch the whole thing one more time 👍👍👍
I didn’t expect that 670 to be so strong right out of the gate. Seems stronger than a lot of 70cc+ saws already. Wish I had Echo’s new 7310p (73.5 cc) to send you. That would be interesting to say the least.
You don't see many ported echoes very great job buddy she's strong man stand proud you build one HECK OF A GOOD saw TINMAN TAKE HER EASY buddy✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I honestly can’t explain how much I’ve enjoyed this series. Im only a fairly new subscriber but this is by far my favourite TH-cam page. Keep up the amazing work Tinman 👍🏼 we all appreciate your knowledge
I am IMPRESSED that the saw was still 4 stroking at that RPM in the cut! You can hear that saw changing as the video progresses. I have yet to see a video that goes into this much detail on break in on the TH-cams. In short this saw is a BEAST!
@@bucketofguts yessir. I have the Tinman to thank for establishing my ear for carb tuning. He does a damn fine job breaking it down for hard heads like me!
Tinman she's gone from turd saw to terror saw. What an incredible journey! You are a Da Vinci with power saws. Let the good times roll! I just purchased a 355T Echo, with your tutelage she will become an angry top saw🤘
Imho the Echo 355T is a better top saw than the Stihl 201T stock , and I am a diehard Stihl guy. I can't imagine if it was ported and a muffler upgrade how much more of a beast the 355T would be
@@Lonewolve1988 I opened up the muffler and added a pipe exhaust on a plate to replace the cheapo factory one. No grinding and also removed the limiters for a proper tune. It woke right up. Die hard Stihl fleet myself. Won't be spending 6-700 bucks on a slacker EPA 201t.
Watched this all the way thru and rebuilt the top end of my ms660 clone. Just so happy and grateful Tinman thanks for sharing your knowledge. Saw was sticking a ring on a valve and was going to return it. Saved hundreds of dollars and weeks of time, by fixing it myself. Thank you Tinman !
Can see and hear the improvement over stock, that's for sure! Nice job man, gonna rip shit once she's turned up!!! Quite interesting how it changes as the rings seat! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Nice WOOD time to cut hopefully you drop something with it. I personally have always liked echo never had a problem. I tortured my 300T for 21 years before it overheated. Which was 100% my fault i ran out of bar oil and didn't want to come down fire wooding 14" wood in the tree with no bar oil 🤬🤬. And never had the top end off it was a good saw that i want to rebuild.
My 670 never ran that good lol wish I still had it but it had a pretty gnarly score on the piston and cylinder. Along with needing new AV mounts. Ditched it for an 034 to 036 build. Might not have the torque of the 670 but she’s a dandy for a 60cc. Wish I could buy every saw I want
I'm the kind of person who has to dive deep into anything I do mechanically. I was a wrench for my first profession before I moved to design engineering. The wealth of information here is quite unusual to me. Like someone mentioned, uncompressed. You get to hear and "feel" the process. The tuning tips alone are such an asset. Really a great job. This is the first time I've subscribed and followed a real time development and I'm hooked!!!
Was that a tramp stamp I see, what kind of show are you running here? Saw looks strong, interesting to see how the tune changed as the rings seated. She wants more juice. The temptation would be to test it in some big wood when it shows such good potential. I admire your restraint.
She looks like a hard pulling saw already, I've really enjoyed watching the saw progress from start to finish. I like your idea of fun, playing with Chainsaws 👍
I am not saying that you are at all wrong you are a far better builder than me but I am just putting some food for thought out. A 2 stroke builds heat when it idles buy design a chainsaw cools better at rpm both exhaust evacuation and flywheel. Idling a saw for a long period during brake in allows heat to build. If you bring the rpms up gently and down gently it will seat better. Not max rpm that would be bad but think of it like braking in a flat tappet camshaft you don’t want it to idle but also don’t want max rpm. A very knowledgeable man showed me to heat cycle a 2 stroke multiple times by starting run it at like 3 though rpm till it is completely warmed up shut down cool off completely do it a few times then run it for a tank easily. After that first tank run it like normal
Great video! Very informative! And you’re right, everyone’s got a different view on break in. Years ago when I raced bikes, we would pull the plug out, and kick them over 200 times, jet Em and race them. Never had one come apart, but I’ve learned a time since the 80s. Heat cycles mean a lot! Keep up the good work!!
I have the same saw and have used for about 10 years and has been a great powerful saw and it always needs 5 pulls to get it started first time in season and then it’s 1-2 pulls it’s a very strong saw out of the box.
Did you change out the rev limiter and my saw when cold start has a fast idle and I don’t here yours doing that and you may be burping the throttle done as it starts.?
Fantastic video with perfect timing. I have a brand new ms461 and a new echo 620P that will need breaking in when the snow finally melts from the 45th parallel of Ontario.You have taught this old dog a few new tricks.My saw collection most of which are over 25 years old will see a lot more use now that i will be retired up north and heating full time with wood. Going to have to get used to the orange screwdriver in my coverall pockets. Great channel with very informative videos.Bless you and stay safe.
Wow! That thing throws chips into the next county. Without question the best laid out how to series I’ve seen. From turd to treasure in a few short weeks. Great job Tinman
Great job on the Echo. Look forward to seeing it turned up in big wood and hearing your thoughts on this saw verses other ported saws in it's class. Enjoyed it as always.😊👍👍👍
Hey Tinman. Thanks for this series👍👍 It‘s awesome and I‘ve learned a lot. I think I‘ll try to port a chainsaw on my own 🤪 Have a nice weekend and ceep on posting this great stuff 👍🤣 Greetings from germany, Stefan
So i have owned one of these since 2007 or 2008. Ive cut hundreds upon hundreds of trees with it. Ive abused it with a 36" bar at times, ive milled 28"++ hardwood with it, it still runs extremely well . *i wish mine ran this well!* Also wish you were in the US
Hey Tinman! I’m curious, where is the 576xp? I’m really wanting to see the porting in that one. I know you’ve got a history with it, but I’m curious to see what happens. I’m debating whether I should send mine out to have it done and what your thoughts are in it. I’ve seen your work with Buckin’s saws and man oh man are they freakin gnarly. Anywho, hope you’re having a good day brother. Cheers to ya!
That's good to know about it running rich until the rings seat. I rebuilt my first saw and had to tune my low jet way up. I'll follow your break-in process and see if that helps.
what a amazing build love to see the echo bucking like a champ
This has been a great series. Alot to learn. I like that it wasn't compressed into 20mins skipping a bunch of stuff. The future looks bright for Tinman's saws
That saw sounds awesome!
With your eyes closed You’d swear it sounds like a nasty 044, NOPE it’s a freaking Echo!! Lol
That’s going to be a nice little saw for someone!! Take care Tinman!!
Great video! You have as much as us in the city, east has a fair bit couple weeks back on a ride. Echo sounds gooooooood👌 pulling harder is an understatement from what I have experienced so far lol like an angry animal woke up
Great work Tinman! That saw’s a beast now. I’d love one just like that. How many cc’s is that? Not to worry, I’m going back to watch the whole thing one more time 👍👍👍
I ..Believe its running very whell.. yepp
I didn’t expect that 670 to be so strong right out of the gate. Seems stronger than a lot of 70cc+ saws already. Wish I had Echo’s new 7310p (73.5 cc) to send you. That would be interesting to say the least.
Maybe I'll buy one for the channel some day.
It's a hoss like it
As buckin’ would say “she cuts eh” seems like a pretty wicked little beast! This was been a such a great series. Thanks a bunch Tinman!
My wife hates me watchin your videos cuz of all the noise... But me.... It's like the music that plays in heaven's elevator lol
Headphones. They are noisy videos.
Great video bud the series was great I’m sending you walkers suspenders they have better grip than those ones
LOL
Im glad to see some love for Echos on here
Me too.
They're great saws for sure!!
You don't see many ported echoes very great job buddy she's strong man stand proud you build one HECK OF A GOOD saw TINMAN TAKE HER EASY buddy✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I honestly can’t explain how much I’ve enjoyed this series. Im only a fairly new subscriber but this is by far my favourite TH-cam page. Keep up the amazing work Tinman 👍🏼 we all appreciate your knowledge
Welcome to the channel!!
@@tinmanssaws thanks man ! All the way from Newfoundland 🇨🇦
Tinman, Once again, thank you for giving up your time to make these videos.Well done and keep up the good work!
Would be great to have a spit screen of before and after in the same wood. To show the difference because it’s huge..
I am IMPRESSED that the saw was still 4 stroking at that RPM in the cut! You can hear that saw changing as the video progresses. I have yet to see a video that goes into this much detail on break in on the TH-cams. In short this saw is a BEAST!
I heard it too because of watching Tinman.
@@bucketofguts yessir. I have the Tinman to thank for establishing my ear for carb tuning. He does a damn fine job breaking it down for hard heads like me!
What does 4 stroking mean?
@@justinjones9255 that warbling sound at max rpm
Sorry, Tinman, we appreciate YOU! This whole series is super.
Again you taking the time to teach and help others is awesome. I appreciate it along with many others.
"I Over-Ceeded (TinMan word for exceeded) the Torque Capacity of my suspenders". Love that Kanadianism!
Wow, You built a Beast! Thanks for this series.
Ya know it is the end of Winter when your britches have gone into over capacity mode LOL. Love the tird saw series.
Bro you polished the turd right out of it awesome build
Tinman she's gone from turd saw to terror saw. What an incredible journey! You are a Da Vinci with power saws. Let the good times roll! I just purchased a 355T Echo, with your tutelage she will become an angry top saw🤘
Imho the Echo 355T is a better top saw than the Stihl 201T stock , and I am a diehard Stihl guy. I can't imagine if it was ported and a muffler upgrade how much more of a beast the 355T would be
@@Lonewolve1988 I opened up the muffler and added a pipe exhaust on a plate to replace the cheapo factory one. No grinding and also removed the limiters for a proper tune. It woke right up. Die hard Stihl fleet myself. Won't be spending 6-700 bucks on a slacker EPA 201t.
This is the best video series on TH-cam
Watched this all the way thru and rebuilt the top end of my ms660 clone. Just so happy and grateful Tinman thanks for sharing your knowledge. Saw was sticking a ring on a valve and was going to return it. Saved hundreds of dollars and weeks of time, by fixing it myself. Thank you Tinman !
It looked real strong during break-in. May hold you to putting up against your 266XP. Thanks
Impressive work mate,always like watching u videos, always informative and interesting to watch 😊! Keep up the good work
Sounds great
Thanks Donny!
Tinman strikes again! That’s a beast! Great job buddy! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Tinman how would u go about it with an mtronic saw one totally dependant on how the saw is turning itself ??? Please advise Gunter
That echo sounds awesome brother! Fine job buddy!
Can see and hear the improvement over stock, that's for sure! Nice job man, gonna rip shit once she's turned up!!!
Quite interesting how it changes as the rings seat!
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I knew this one would respond well to some Tinman lovin💪🏼
She sounds awesome! Like she is waiting for more. 🤘🤘👍👍
Nice WOOD time to cut hopefully you drop something with it. I personally have always liked echo never had a problem. I tortured my 300T for 21 years before it overheated. Which was 100% my fault i ran out of bar oil and didn't want to come down fire wooding 14" wood in the tree with no bar oil 🤬🤬. And never had the top end off it was a good saw that i want to rebuild.
My 670 never ran that good lol wish I still had it but it had a pretty gnarly score on the piston and cylinder. Along with needing new AV mounts. Ditched it for an 034 to 036 build. Might not have the torque of the 670 but she’s a dandy for a 60cc. Wish I could buy every saw I want
I didn't expect to see a wardrobe failure, lol! 😄
The saw is running great, though👍
Echo 670, ported, Stihl 24” bar. The Little Beast! 66.7 cc 14.3 Lbs/6.5 kg but the port job probably shaved off half a pound;-D So she’s Light!!
Wondering what kind of fuel you run. 93octane ? Leaded race gas ? What kind of oil in the gas.
Hey tinman she's turned out a real good saw. Grand job buddy.
Question. I have a makita dcs 6421 and I’m wondering if I should put a stihl ms 460 jug on it
I'm the kind of person who has to dive deep into anything I do mechanically. I was a wrench for my first profession before I moved to design engineering. The wealth of information here is quite unusual to me. Like someone mentioned, uncompressed. You get to hear and "feel" the process. The tuning tips alone are such an asset. Really a great job. This is the first time I've subscribed and followed a real time development and I'm hooked!!!
My grandfather and Dad ran echos for years. Very dependable. I own 2. Better than my stihl
Was that a tramp stamp I see, what kind of show are you running here? Saw looks strong, interesting to see how the tune changed as the rings seated. She wants more juice. The temptation would be to test it in some big wood when it shows such good potential. I admire your restraint.
She looks like a hard pulling saw already, I've really enjoyed watching the saw progress from start to finish. I like your idea of fun, playing with Chainsaws 👍
Love taking turd saws and giving them new life you did a great job on this one tinman
I am not saying that you are at all wrong you are a far better builder than me but I am just putting some food for thought out. A 2 stroke builds heat when it idles buy design a chainsaw cools better at rpm both exhaust evacuation and flywheel. Idling a saw for a long period during brake in allows heat to build. If you bring the rpms up gently and down gently it will seat better. Not max rpm that would be bad but think of it like braking in a flat tappet camshaft you don’t want it to idle but also don’t want max rpm. A very knowledgeable man showed me to heat cycle a 2 stroke multiple times by starting run it at like 3 though rpm till it is completely warmed up shut down cool off completely do it a few times then run it for a tank easily. After that first tank run it like normal
Great video! Very informative! And you’re right, everyone’s got a different view on break in. Years ago when I raced bikes, we would pull the plug out, and kick them over 200 times, jet Em and race them. Never had one come apart, but I’ve learned a time since the 80s. Heat cycles mean a lot! Keep up the good work!!
I have the same saw and have used for about 10 years and has been a great powerful saw and it always needs 5 pulls to get it started first time in season and then it’s 1-2 pulls it’s a very strong saw out of the box.
Hey you trying chance career. Trying get into plumber trades. Lol.
Great info as always Tinman, im currently breaking in a new ms500i and ms661!! Gonna try some milling with the 661
Did you change out the rev limiter and my saw when cold start has a fast idle and I don’t here yours doing that and you may be burping the throttle done as it starts.?
so great to finally see her eat some chips!
“I’ve exceeded the torque capacity of my suspenders” lol love that, keep coming at us with the original content Tinman!! I learn something every time.
Echo engines are great
Fantastic video with perfect timing. I have a brand new ms461 and a new echo 620P that will need breaking in when the snow finally melts from the 45th parallel of Ontario.You have taught this old dog a few new tricks.My saw collection most of which are over 25 years old will see a lot more use now that i will be retired up north and heating full time with wood. Going to have to get used to the orange screwdriver in my coverall pockets.
Great channel with very informative videos.Bless you and stay safe.
Over-exceeded the torque capacity? I'd say more of a leaky seal.
Wow! That thing throws chips into the next county. Without question the best laid out how to series I’ve seen. From turd to treasure in a few short weeks. Great job Tinman
That thing sounds awesome .. needs bigger felling dogs but sounds good 👌
Great job on the Echo. Look forward to seeing it turned up in big wood and hearing your thoughts on this saw verses other ported saws in it's class. Enjoyed it as always.😊👍👍👍
@6:51, last part of the cut, it sounded like it opened up. Sounds lovely
Suspenders coming loose no problem as long as we don’t see a full moon we’re good.😂
Why do you pull on the rip cord a little while you’re shutting the saw off?
Would be interesting to see how she handles milling slabs.....
The day has come! Seems real strong. Thanks Tinman!
Dude that freaking thing is nasty holy crap dude omg I want it hahaha
Let's have a little chit chat.....Classic TinMan!!! 🤩
How long does it take to break in a new saw Tinman. Love this channel and I am a newbie
That's a sweet little got rod. Well done
I'm going try and find me an echo. That saw is awesome!
Hey Tinman.
Thanks for this series👍👍 It‘s awesome and I‘ve learned a lot. I think I‘ll try to port a chainsaw on my own 🤪
Have a nice weekend and ceep on posting this great stuff 👍🤣
Greetings from germany, Stefan
THAT SAW REALLY RUNS NICE, LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED SOME NEW SUSPENDERS
Got some new ones tonight lol
Why do you pull out the pull cord when you shut the saw off?
That echo rips awsome job buddy
That saw is a beast for its size !
We learn so much thinks about chainsaws.
You built a nasty(good) one!!!
Are you going to be selling this saw?
Before it was a turd saw💩 now its a power saw💪
That thing sure does rip damn
An awesome ending. She runs!
Looking like she's going to be a good one 👍.
it come loose after the 266 comment
Nice job looks great runs sweet that is a perfect work saw right there
That's not a turd saw anyone 👍
Would you like to sell the echo ?
Is this the " turd saw"
Outfuckinstanding tinman..enjoyed the series thoroughly..saws on point!!
I’ve heard the term “4 stroke” as in “did you hear it start to 4 stroke?” What does that mean?
Engine warbling sound at full rpm
So i have owned one of these since 2007 or 2008.
Ive cut hundreds upon hundreds of trees with it. Ive abused it with a 36" bar at times, ive milled 28"++ hardwood with it, it still runs extremely well .
*i wish mine ran this well!*
Also wish you were in the US
Good job. Aint no slouch now!
Wow! Nice work!
She's a cutter buddy. Great job wow. Love this stuff. Keep up the great port work. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
Hey Tinman! I’m curious, where is the 576xp? I’m really wanting to see the porting in that one. I know you’ve got a history with it, but I’m curious to see what happens. I’m debating whether I should send mine out to have it done and what your thoughts are in it. I’ve seen your work with Buckin’s saws and man oh man are they freakin gnarly. Anywho, hope you’re having a good day brother. Cheers to ya!
What a great job bud. Your a pro in my book. Awesome awesome !!! It freakin RIPS!!!
Not quite FNITS but I'll take it. Awesome saw! What is the rates capacity on britches suspenders? Love you Tinman.
Nicely done!
She's a cutter buddy. Great job wow. Love this stuff. Keep up the great port work. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
That's good to know about it running rich until the rings seat. I rebuilt my first saw and had to tune my low jet way up. I'll follow your break-in process and see if that helps.