Jake here's my Surreal advice. If you start barebow now, watch some Jake Kaminsky videos. Ignore the ones about the stabilizer clicker and sight. Hope it helps in a recursive manner...
Nice. Once you get your tecnecqe defined would like to here all the differences in ajustments. For example string blur where is the string alignment difference from Olympic to bare bow if there is a difference. From going to higher anchor does there seem to be a difference in draw length. Seems to me your shoulder doesn't rotate around as much as when you shoot anchor under your jaw and one shot in video I noticed you had more movement during release as in your shoulder had came around futher than when you shoot under jaw anchor. I know first few shots and you havnt got your tecqenic dield in yet. This is just to note difference and a question that I had for later.
This is real talk and good advise. I shoot bare bow/instinctive archer as well but my form are still the same as Olympian archers without stab and sight. Just like your other video which you describe how you shoot on 70 meters its all about your instinct you don't give a shit anymore with your sight, I know you are trying to learn string walking you are just replacing your sight with that kind of system and you don't need that. Use the same form 2 fingers under below your chin and the tip of the arrow is your sight if you want to adjust you do gap shooting.
Great move. It's really enjoyable watching someone with your knowledge and experience shoot a barebow. Thanks Jake from this ol' timer who's shot barebow for 54 years.
The best thing about BB, is that you have to have fun with it, you absolutely have to enjoy it. Things get quite competitive, but the community spirit is strong and you meet the nicest people in archery in BB section. And it’s hard to overestimate the excitement the community is feeling about you trying BB out. We do hope it sticks!
Jake. Thanks for all the information you shared, for the remarkable experience sharing, for the knowledge, for your humble, for your sport spirit, hope you continue sharing information as ur generous as usual.
Welcome to the fun and challenging barebow world Jake! I'd like to thank you especially for your Form series of videos. I'm a barebow stringwalker, and your videos inspired me to completely change my form from old style linear and square stance, to KSL style angular with open stance. It's been a great learning experience to work through, and I'm sure it will make me a better archer. I probably would never have tried such a big change successfully without the details included in your excellent videos. One particular valuable lesson that I learned in the process was to let my correct alignment determine my anchor, rather than sticking to my old anchor point (such as a finger on a canine tooth). To get good alignment and form, my draw length increased significantly. 2 weeks and 1000+ arrows later, I still haven't totally finalised the best anchor point, but it's close!
Now your having fun!. Feels strange offering an Olymipian advice. ,but you are a fan of bone contact for your anchor. Try to find a solid anchor that will put your point on at 50 meters. I like index finger bone solid against my cheekbone and using the brow bone to set head tilt. That will tighten your crawl a bit so you are not as far down the string for the closer targets. Easier on the bow tune as well. When you make your weight consider making it one piece but similar to a mushroom so the weight is forward giving a bit of forward movement to the bow. I radius mine on the end to match the radius on the size gauge giving a little more weight forward but still clearing the ring. The square face will make the weight shorter.
Thanks Jake! Your videos are inspiring. I just started shooting barebow after a 50 year hiatus from archery and i'm loving it. Best of luck. Keep em coming please!
I started with shooting longbows at medieval fairs, tried my hand at oly recurve for a little bit, then compound, finally settling with barebow. It just feels right for me. Looks to be an exciting new journey for you Jake, all the best!
This is a brilliant channel Jake - so helpful - I'm sure your videos will inspire many people to get into the fantastic sport of archery for years to come
I bought my first one piece recurve when I was 15 back in1975. It was a 60# Bear recurve. Beautiful bow. I’ve always shot traditional and continue now. I recently switched to longbow and love it even more. It’s a PSE #50 - 68” amo. I draw at 30.5 inches so the poundage comes in at just over 58#. Longbows are very unforgiving so it took me a bit to get used to the longbow as opposed to the traditional recurve. If you really want to put your skills to the test, give longbow a go. Wooden arrows et al. Great videos. Enjoy watching them and look for to more. Cheers from Canada.
Good stuff, buddy! Looking strong for your first few arrows in a while. String walking is a lot of fun, and can be super accurate, once you get the hang of it (anchor, tiller, tune, plunger settings, etc). Keep an eye out in the coming weeks I'll be putting out a series on Barebow tabs, if you're looking to nerd out on some tab options to upgrade to. Super stoked for ya. Keep at it!!
I used to have that anchor too - works great for target (18m+) - but you will probably run out of tab for short distances for field/3D. Form looks great of course - good choice to try out BB and enjoy the journey!
Hey Jake, I am doing the exact same thing as you on my channel ArcheryGeek, it is all about “My Barebow journey”. I really appreciate your videos and talk about your channel a lot and how proper form is important. My next video is dropping soon and kinda makes fun of how you are calling it your Barebow Journey too - just want to let you know its all in good fun. I really appreciate you! All the best and see you at the Lancaster Archery Classic in 2021!!!
Great to see you diving in and experimenting - like a true BB nerd! :D Also all your set up discussion: "It's sorta this, and kinda that. I don't know really, it seems like a good idea." The amount, placement, and configuration of weights is all over the place. You might say "highly unscientific". But every BB type can explain - in excruciating detail - the merits of THEIR setup! :) I like mine to keep the bow nicely vertical at setup and hold without feeling like I have to manage it. Then through follow-through, instead of the "oly flip", to stay vertical. Once I got used to the weight, it felt and sounded wrong when I removed the small weight. The dampener rule, like most WA BB rules, seems arbitrary and doesn't make sense. It just is what it is and sets a level playing field (?) I have been shooting a W&W TFT-G since starting about a year ago and have had it inspected in at least half a dozen STAR FITA matches. Not once did a judge eyeball or have me take action on the "manufacturer's logos" (a.k.a. text) along the sight window. Nonetheless, I keep a small role of black electrical tape in my quiver for "the day' when one fusses. Without a clicker you may find your hold time gets longer (?) and so a lighter draw may be in order. You are doing a great service to the BB community. Seeing an Olympian struggle and sort things out is a inspiring - in a twisted sort of way :D:D:D
Nothing worth doing is ever going to be easy. Well done for taking this on. I imagine if you asked Gillo (or someone else) to comp you a set of their new 36/38lb limbs to help, they'd be crazy to refuse with the amount of interest in your barebow series.
Actually I haven’t asked anyone for any help. Not sure what I’ll be doing yet at this point. I’d love to get my hands on all sorts of equipment to play with.
I use this weird anchor where I hook my thumb around the sternocleidomastoid muscle, press the first digit of my index finger on my cheekbone and the tip on my top canine then tilt my head so the bowstring pushes on the tip of my nose ( not the side as many bb archers do). This gives plenty of reference points and works well for me.
One step closer to the dark side! :D Love it! So, once you've mastered barebow, might try bowhunter recurve (bowclass - barebow without stringwalking; not actually hunting)? :D
@@guilhermevieira4353 :D Tbh, I already thought about trying a horsebow with thumbring. Had the opportunity to shoot one at my local club and it was quite fun! Was also my first experience with shooting without shelf or rest. Got some cuts from feathers on my knuckles. Oo Although I might try shooting left handed to balance muscles out (I am a right handed archer)
@@Nifelvind86 nock the arrow a bit higher to avoid feather cuts. Sometimes I also shoot left thumb just for fun :) Be adventurous because archery is too vast and fun to be stuck with only one or two styles
Thank you so much for these vids Jake. Watching you tune your bow is amazing. Shooting short recurves like the Bear Super Mag and Kodak Mag don’t really allow for much tuning other than nock point, brace height, and string dampeners, and of course, arrows. Watching you and the Lancaster Bare-bow Competition makes me wonder if I should eventually invest in a takedown bare-bow riser like the Gillo GT. As of now, shooting indoors at 18m with #45 at my 28” draw has tight groupings until my 4-5th ends, then they become loose. I can usually pull them back in towards the gold on the 9th or 10th end. So much of my shots seem to be affected by my focus ... or lack of it, at least with the bows I’m flinging arrows with.
I'd love to see you do a similar video on (World Archery) instinctive. I keep seeing stuff that sounds like instinctive archery objectively makes people happier. And I can't imagine better criteria. (World Archery rulebook section 22.4. No string walking, plunger, or weights.) It's what I've been doing daily for a few months.
I anchor with the tip of the nail of my index between the first and second premolar. I'm still very bad with the release, but the anchor reference is rock solid.
If it's any help, it's worth trying the tip of your top finger touching your top canine tooth. Solid, and repeatable. Also reduces the crawl, and helps keep the arrow under your eye a little.
I like the finger-tab with the triple finger stall. Is this homemade or a stock product. One of the things I find very disconcerting with most of the corded finger-tabs is that they just never feel secure and are just waiting to fly off. The traditional no-pinch finger tabs where the finger stall is actually a cutout in the leather feels the best and most secure. The new Simon Fairweather tabs also look like they might have the right feel. The looseness of most of the tabs are a distraction I can do without in my shot cycle.
For mass weight, i like to have the Barebow stay upright in my hand at rest and the top limb doesn't kick back and hit me on the forehead at release. The average range seems to be 4-6# mass weight, with some accomplished shooters having higher mass weights at 8# to minimize left-right torquing at release
That’s not Elma Jake although we’ve had a very mild WNY winter this year. I watch your release & how tight to the face it stays along the neck. That’s where I get lazy!
Try anchoring off the corner of your mouth or a tooth. Will bring your eye further down the bow so you dont have to string walk as far. They say a neutral tiller is a good idea too. I've wondered if even going to a tiller to the top of the bow would be a good idea.
I'm a trad shooter, but I've considered the barebow thing. I used to shoot compound, so barebow would satisfy my urge to tweak stuff. I'd be inclined to gap shoot though, as this method wouldn't mess with the bows tuning as much. Seems to me the feel would be more consistent at all distances.
Good shoots! I recommend to move your anchor point upwards . The pointing finger buckle should be pressed against your cheekbone, and the V form between the pointing finger and thumb to your jaw (under ears) The crawl is too much now, makes lot of stress on the lower limbs.
Your videos are very entertaining and informative, but please try to make your voice in editing the same loudness through one video. Within one video I'm constantly changing my speakers volume - while the intro usually is the loudest part of your videos :) Looking forward to watching your future content :)
Its hard when going outside and inside, I do my best with the limited editing software I have.. I am trying to work on getting audio levels even. Still a work in progress! I was an archer not an editor and it shows! Thanks for the support.
Excellent video Jake! I love your humble approach and your happy go lucky attitude. I'm also starting on BB as well and I find it very easy to get good groups by simply using the form that "feels the best" for me.(For sure will be different than other people, but everyone needs to find his own) I may not hit anything LOL but I'll be calibrating that later on, for now I'm concentrating on a repeatable anchor, sight picture and release. Is there any problem using the archery glove?
Can I ask anybody's opinion...I am new to BB and am trying to get my first setup done. What length strings would you get for a 68"AMO setup? I've been told 65" and 64 ¾". Thanks
A better anchor point for short distances would be higher, such as on the eye-tooth. It reduces inaccuracy because of the natural movement of the jaw. The crawl won't be so low and you can still use the lower anchor point for longer distances
My question is the wrist follow-through after the arrow leaves the bow. Olympic-style seems to be having the wrist/bow hand drop with the bow. Your wrist stayed pretty level here. Just an observation. I also did not see a finger sling. Perhaps this was just figuring out all.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery I feel my shoulder crunch when I use a high anchor and no crunching when I come in low and pull up to my jaw...maybe your wife can help you with it and share the findings. It's another reason to drop down to #30 limbs.
@@bobjimenez4464 I have the opposite problem, BB feels so natural to me as opposed to when I started the olympic style I got hurt pretty bad because I had no coaching, I have short forearms and it's very difficult to me to achieve the wedge if I try to keep the hand under my chin, I always preferred my hand a little farther back.
@@luiggispeed4081 That's great Luiggi, you're one of the lucky ones. I feel the transition between muscles and joint grinding when I anchor high.....string walking and gap shooting are my solutions. : )
Excuse me but i thought you said bare bow, i.e. no stablizers no weights purely a BARE bow, i am not sure but i think even clickers are out. I could be totally wrong, but having shot archery since childhood age five and now 75, my archery started just after the last war, my mother and father started up an archery club in the U.K. At the time bows and the like were not even available in any sport shop so my father a master carpenter and joiner did some homework and made all the equipment himself including all the arrows and flechings. The bows were long bows, i think his bow was about 90 pound a nd my mothers was around the 60pund. He mad bows for my sister and i which were a cut down version of a long bow at around 25 to 30 pound. I carried on shooting and managed to do so while serving in the forces. This continued untill in the 1990 s when after problem with my bones made it impossible to shoot anymore by which time i was a master bowman. I admit to missing the sport and wokuld sugest that anyone wanting to take part should give it a go as it is good for self control and very good exercise.
Barebow is a sanctioned class of archery according to World Archery. This is what Barebow is and what I am referencing. You would be talking more of a "traditional" class.
Every time you shot an arrow, your bow arm swings to the left, is there any reason for that? I thought the arm should stay straight when you follow through. Is these any thing I missed?
Having multiple configurations is fun without being too expensive if you buy used. I have a 3-piece take-down, an old Bear (one piece) recurve, and a nice little long bow. If I were competing I suppose I'd need to select one and work with it, but I just shoot for fun.
Your first time session is better than that of many top BB shoters with 15 plus years of experience. As soon as you figure out your best anchor point you'll be sticking them.
Which top BB shooters would that be???? As far as I can see the top BB shooters are pounding the X at 18m and shooting 560+ WA18 and 640+ WA50. The Lancaster/Vegas/Rome/KoA scores prove it. As do the national records for barebow for Sweden, USA, UK, Italy, France. ... all 550+ on a40cm face at 18m. So please tell us who these top BB guys with 15+ years of experience are who cant hit the gold on a 60cm target at 10 yds. Would be interested to know their names...
@@skysurferboy You do understand what positive reinforcement is and why people use it? Especially in order to support someone when they start at something that is less familiar or new to them. Non of your top BB shooters ( that are pounding the X) got hurt by my comment and I am sure they would understand why I said it and I don't think they ( the top BB shooters that pounding the X) need you or anyone else to be their internet defense attorney. Have a good day!
Oh brother ...You think that bow is too strong for you ??? I am shooting with a hunting english longbow of 100 pounds , and I think is not strong enough ... Oh well... Wellcome in the bare bow archers club !!!!
So just a tip looks like your still anchoring off you chin like your supposed to with Olympic style. Try anchoring off your front canine. You'll notice the difference.
Jake here's my Surreal advice. If you start barebow now, watch some Jake Kaminsky videos. Ignore the ones about the stabilizer clicker and sight.
Hope it helps in a recursive manner...
Nice. Once you get your tecnecqe defined would like to here all the differences in ajustments. For example string blur where is the string alignment difference from Olympic to bare bow if there is a difference. From going to higher anchor does there seem to be a difference in draw length. Seems to me your shoulder doesn't rotate around as much as when you shoot anchor under your jaw and one shot in video I noticed you had more movement during release as in your shoulder had came around futher than when you shoot under jaw anchor.
I know first few shots and you havnt got your tecqenic dield in yet. This is just to note difference and a question that I had for later.
Leon Venediktou ,great advice!
This is real talk and good advise. I shoot bare bow/instinctive archer as well but my form are still the same as Olympian archers without stab and sight. Just like your other video which you describe how you shoot on 70 meters its all about your instinct you don't give a shit anymore with your sight, I know you are trying to learn string walking you are just replacing your sight with that kind of system and you don't need that. Use the same form 2 fingers under below your chin and the tip of the arrow is your sight if you want to adjust you do gap shooting.
I could watch that release and follow through for hours!
Hey Jake, you're looking good so far. This is going to be a fun series for the barebow nation to watch. Thank you for sharing your journey with us.
Wonder where he got that bow vise/holder.
Like your straight talking approach,looking forward to your next post.
That was me about four months ago! Practice makes perfect and I can now hit the side of the barn!
Great move. It's really enjoyable watching someone with your knowledge and experience shoot a barebow. Thanks Jake from this ol' timer who's shot barebow for 54 years.
The best thing about BB, is that you have to have fun with it, you absolutely have to enjoy it. Things get quite competitive, but the community spirit is strong and you meet the nicest people in archery in BB section. And it’s hard to overestimate the excitement the community is feeling about you trying BB out. We do hope it sticks!
Jake.
Thanks for all the information you shared, for the remarkable experience sharing, for the knowledge, for your humble, for your sport spirit, hope you continue sharing information as ur generous as usual.
Welcome to the fun and challenging barebow world Jake!
I'd like to thank you especially for your Form series of videos. I'm a barebow stringwalker, and your videos inspired me to completely change my form from old style linear and square stance, to KSL style angular with open stance. It's been a great learning experience to work through, and I'm sure it will make me a better archer. I probably would never have tried such a big change successfully without the details included in your excellent videos.
One particular valuable lesson that I learned in the process was to let my correct alignment determine my anchor, rather than sticking to my old anchor point (such as a finger on a canine tooth). To get good alignment and form, my draw length increased significantly. 2 weeks and 1000+ arrows later, I still haven't totally finalised the best anchor point, but it's close!
Now your having fun!. Feels strange offering an Olymipian advice. ,but you are a fan of bone contact for your anchor. Try to find a solid anchor that will put your point on at 50 meters. I like index finger bone solid against my cheekbone and using the brow bone to set head tilt. That will tighten your crawl a bit so you are not as far down the string for the closer targets. Easier on the bow tune as well. When you make your weight consider making it one piece but similar to a mushroom so the weight is forward giving a bit of forward movement to the bow. I radius mine on the end to match the radius on the size gauge giving a little more weight forward but still clearing the ring. The square face will make the weight shorter.
This is one of your best videos so far. Welcome to team barebow.
Thanks Jake! Your videos are inspiring. I just started shooting barebow after a 50 year hiatus from archery and i'm loving it. Best of luck. Keep em coming please!
Awesome stuff Jake, thanks for posting. and Welcome to the Barebow nation
I am a beginner Barebow archer and am really enjoying your videos. I hope to follow and learn from you as you progress. Thank you 👍😎🇦🇺
John Vodopija same here, and I assume by the flag that like me, you are an Aussie too!
I started with shooting longbows at medieval fairs, tried my hand at oly recurve for a little bit, then compound, finally settling with barebow. It just feels right for me. Looks to be an exciting new journey for you Jake, all the best!
Whooop whoop. We are loving it.
This is a brilliant channel Jake - so helpful - I'm sure your videos will inspire many people to get into the fantastic sport of archery for years to come
Enjoy Jake, keep sharing!
Thanks Jake , you play with Barebow... I'm an BB, n can not wait you sharing....
I bought my first one piece recurve when I was 15 back in1975. It was a 60# Bear recurve. Beautiful bow. I’ve always shot traditional and continue now. I recently switched to longbow and love it even more. It’s a PSE #50 - 68” amo. I draw at 30.5 inches so the poundage comes in at just over 58#. Longbows are very unforgiving so it took me a bit to get used to the longbow as opposed to the traditional recurve. If you really want to put your skills to the test, give longbow a go. Wooden arrows et al. Great videos. Enjoy watching them and look for to more. Cheers from Canada.
Your process and release looks better than alot of barebow archers myself included! You are definitely on the right track!
Good stuff, buddy! Looking strong for your first few arrows in a while. String walking is a lot of fun, and can be super accurate, once you get the hang of it (anchor, tiller, tune, plunger settings, etc). Keep an eye out in the coming weeks I'll be putting out a series on Barebow tabs, if you're looking to nerd out on some tab options to upgrade to. Super stoked for ya. Keep at it!!
Not bad Jake, welcome to the Barebow Family 😁😁😁
Been looking for barebowers that is alligned well AND have great follow through. Found one! Thanks a lot.
Excited to see your new series, I am looking forward to seeing this progression.
Great Humility ❤️🙏🏽
Enjoying the content, and I appreciate the camera angles.
I‘m just doing the exact same thing. Have set up a barebow and start shooting since 1 month. Fun to watch, good luck
Great job Jake, keep it up.
Thanks Jake, this is so cool to watch !
Thanks, Jake
Lots of power in that bow nice
Great Video Jake I like the way you explain things .keep up the good work..
I used to have that anchor too - works great for target (18m+) - but you will probably run out of tab for short distances for field/3D. Form looks great of course - good choice to try out BB and enjoy the journey!
Awesome Jake, looks good, enjoy...
Next week Jake will be shooting instinctive horsebow........ :)) Great series ,enjoying following your journey.
Hey Jake, I am doing the exact same thing as you on my channel ArcheryGeek, it is all about “My Barebow journey”. I really appreciate your videos and talk about your channel a lot and how proper form is important. My next video is dropping soon and kinda makes fun of how you are calling it your Barebow Journey too - just want to let you know its all in good fun. I really appreciate you! All the best and see you at the Lancaster Archery Classic in 2021!!!
I haven’t coined the “series” yet so don’t worry!
Yost archery tabs are really great for string walking!
Not a barebow shooter, by the way it seems that you're setting things correctly and doing well! Keep up the good work! Glad you're back!
Great to see you diving in and experimenting - like a true BB nerd! :D Also all your set up discussion: "It's sorta this, and kinda that. I don't know really, it seems like a good idea."
The amount, placement, and configuration of weights is all over the place. You might say "highly unscientific". But every BB type can explain - in excruciating detail - the merits of THEIR setup! :) I like mine to keep the bow nicely vertical at setup and hold without feeling like I have to manage it. Then through follow-through, instead of the "oly flip", to stay vertical. Once I got used to the weight, it felt and sounded wrong when I removed the small weight.
The dampener rule, like most WA BB rules, seems arbitrary and doesn't make sense. It just is what it is and sets a level playing field (?)
I have been shooting a W&W TFT-G since starting about a year ago and have had it inspected in at least half a dozen STAR FITA matches. Not once did a judge eyeball or have me take action on the "manufacturer's logos" (a.k.a. text) along the sight window. Nonetheless, I keep a small role of black electrical tape in my quiver for "the day' when one fusses.
Without a clicker you may find your hold time gets longer (?) and so a lighter draw may be in order.
You are doing a great service to the BB community. Seeing an Olympian struggle and sort things out is a inspiring - in a twisted sort of way :D:D:D
keep us updated on your weight progression :)
Nice work 👊
Nothing worth doing is ever going to be easy. Well done for taking this on.
I imagine if you asked Gillo (or someone else) to comp you a set of their new 36/38lb limbs to help, they'd be crazy to refuse with the amount of interest in your barebow series.
Actually I haven’t asked anyone for any help. Not sure what I’ll be doing yet at this point. I’d love to get my hands on all sorts of equipment to play with.
It begins! :D
I use this weird anchor where I hook my thumb around the sternocleidomastoid muscle, press the first digit of my index finger on my cheekbone and the tip on my top canine then tilt my head so the bowstring pushes on the tip of my nose ( not the side as many bb archers do). This gives plenty of reference points and works well for me.
One step closer to the dark side! :D Love it!
So, once you've mastered barebow, might try bowhunter recurve (bowclass - barebow without stringwalking; not actually hunting)? :D
I'm shooting like that couple of years and that definetely brings you a lot of satisfaction when you are hiting the target :D
@@przemysawaniewski1026Yes indeed!
BHR: modern/ technical recurve meets traditional shooting
After you master bhr, try shooting intuitive a horse bow with thumb realese. Now that is where the real fun begins!
@@guilhermevieira4353 :D
Tbh, I already thought about trying a horsebow with thumbring. Had the opportunity to shoot one at my local club and it was quite fun! Was also my first experience with shooting without shelf or rest. Got some cuts from feathers on my knuckles. Oo
Although I might try shooting left handed to balance muscles out (I am a right handed archer)
@@Nifelvind86 nock the arrow a bit higher to avoid feather cuts. Sometimes I also shoot left thumb just for fun :) Be adventurous because archery is too vast and fun to be stuck with only one or two styles
Looking good. I anchor higher by touching my cheek bone. Keeps my draw length more consistent.
Jake’s release is much more sexier than Terry Crews!
He’s a big ass robot!
I like to anchor my index finger to my upper eye tooth. I do scrap my lip sometimes so be careful.
Thank you so much for these vids Jake. Watching you tune your bow is amazing. Shooting short recurves like the Bear Super Mag and Kodak Mag don’t really allow for much tuning other than nock point, brace height, and string dampeners, and of course, arrows. Watching you and the Lancaster Bare-bow Competition makes me wonder if I should eventually invest in a takedown bare-bow riser like the Gillo GT. As of now, shooting indoors at 18m with #45 at my 28” draw has tight groupings until my 4-5th ends, then they become loose. I can usually pull them back in towards the gold on the 9th or 10th end. So much of my shots seem to be affected by my focus ... or lack of it, at least with the bows I’m flinging arrows with.
I like running the weight around the stabilizer whole and shoot for a complete bow weight of between 5.5 and 6.5 pounds
I'd love to see you do a similar video on (World Archery) instinctive. I keep seeing stuff that sounds like instinctive archery objectively makes people happier. And I can't imagine better criteria. (World Archery rulebook section 22.4. No string walking, plunger, or weights.) It's what I've been doing daily for a few months.
I anchor with the tip of the nail of my index between the first and second premolar. I'm still very bad with the release, but the anchor reference is rock solid.
If it's any help, it's worth trying the tip of your top finger touching your top canine tooth. Solid, and repeatable. Also reduces the crawl, and helps keep the arrow under your eye a little.
For weights. I usually try to get as few weights as possible that will keep the bow vertical as it rests freely in my bow hand.
I like the finger-tab with the triple finger stall. Is this homemade or a stock product. One of the things I find very disconcerting with most of the corded finger-tabs is that they just never feel secure and are just waiting to fly off. The traditional no-pinch finger tabs where the finger stall is actually a cutout in the leather feels the best and most secure. The new Simon Fairweather tabs also look like they might have the right feel. The looseness of most of the tabs are a distraction I can do without in my shot cycle.
For mass weight, i like to have the Barebow stay upright in my hand at rest and the top limb doesn't kick back and hit me on the forehead at release. The average range seems to be 4-6# mass weight, with some accomplished shooters having higher mass weights at 8# to minimize left-right torquing at release
My barebow is 5.5 pounds.
That’s not Elma Jake although we’ve had a very mild WNY winter this year.
I watch your release & how tight to the face it stays along the neck. That’s where I get lazy!
Try anchoring off the corner of your mouth or a tooth. Will bring your eye further down the bow so you dont have to string walk as far. They say a neutral tiller is a good idea too. I've wondered if even going to a tiller to the top of the bow would be a good idea.
I'm a trad shooter, but I've considered the barebow thing. I used to shoot compound, so barebow would satisfy my urge to tweak stuff. I'd be inclined to gap shoot though, as this method wouldn't mess with the bows tuning as much. Seems to me the feel would be more consistent at all distances.
Good shoots!
I recommend to move your anchor point upwards . The pointing finger buckle should be pressed against your cheekbone, and the V form between the pointing finger and thumb to your jaw (under ears) The crawl is too much now, makes lot of stress on the lower limbs.
as on the first and second round
We also want the I am video!!!!
Your videos are very entertaining and informative, but please try to make your voice in editing the same loudness through one video. Within one video I'm constantly changing my speakers volume - while the intro usually is the loudest part of your videos :)
Looking forward to watching your future content :)
Its hard when going outside and inside, I do my best with the limited editing software I have.. I am trying to work on getting audio levels even. Still a work in progress! I was an archer not an editor and it shows! Thanks for the support.
Hey, how are you? Which Limbsaver do you use? What is the Brand of it? Thank you for your answer
It varies. They all work quite well. I’ll get a up a video talking about the differences in them
Looking good. Did you set an even tiller?
Yes even.
I started out with slingshots, then barebow till now. It is an ongoing process finding out something from every shootout. Self realizations mostly
What are you dialing in at 9:50 while plucking the string?
Either the brace height feel (feeing how much vibration is there after a puck) or setting the limbs in the pocket.
Do you still squeeze your fingers even without a spacer?
How did it feel shooting without a clicker?
Excellent video Jake! I love your humble approach and your happy go lucky attitude. I'm also starting on BB as well and I find it very easy to get good groups by simply using the form that "feels the best" for me.(For sure will be different than other people, but everyone needs to find his own) I may not hit anything LOL but I'll be calibrating that later on, for now I'm concentrating on a repeatable anchor, sight picture and release. Is there any problem using the archery glove?
Can I ask anybody's opinion...I am new to BB and am trying to get my first setup done. What length strings would you get for a 68"AMO setup? I've been told 65" and 64 ¾". Thanks
Do you use the same tab for barebow as you do for Olympic? (AAE)
Different tabs, Yost on BB AAE on OLY
I thought all recurve archer have tried barebow before. Am I wrong?
Which one more difficult?
"I am" is an anagram for "Aim" ;)
As a Primitive off the hand archer using a traditional Yew wood D longbow I'm always amused at what is in competition is called a barebow.
Maybe not the place but.."I am tradbow" possibly?
I will have one of those up within a week. I’ll post it on here so keep an eye out.
D Mouse how about just “I am trad” on a shirt that’s plaid!
I want to start barebow but I can’t find a good AND cheap riser ._. Any suggestions price range is 200.0 max
Jake. Excellent. Welcome to the dark side!
A better anchor point for short distances would be higher, such as on the eye-tooth. It reduces inaccuracy because of the natural movement of the jaw. The crawl won't be so low and you can still use the lower anchor point for longer distances
Yep, lots of experimenting to do.
My question is the wrist follow-through after the arrow leaves the bow. Olympic-style seems to be having the wrist/bow hand drop with the bow. Your wrist stayed pretty level here. Just an observation. I also did not see a finger sling. Perhaps this was just figuring out all.
Part of that wrist thing is the stabilisers having the weight further from the centre of the bow. It really makes the bow jump forward.
that high anchor is a shoulder destroyer
You think so? It’s not terribly higher then my old anchor
@@JakeKaminskiArchery I feel my shoulder crunch when I use a high anchor and no crunching when I come in low and pull up to my jaw...maybe your wife can help you with it and share the findings. It's another reason to drop down to #30 limbs.
@@bobjimenez4464 I have the opposite problem, BB feels so natural to me as opposed to when I started the olympic style I got hurt pretty bad because I had no coaching, I have short forearms and it's very difficult to me to achieve the wedge if I try to keep the hand under my chin, I always preferred my hand a little farther back.
@@luiggispeed4081 That's great Luiggi, you're one of the lucky ones. I feel the transition between muscles and joint grinding when I anchor high.....string walking and gap shooting are my solutions. : )
Excuse me but i thought you said bare bow, i.e. no stablizers no weights purely a BARE bow, i am not sure but i think even clickers are out.
I could be totally wrong, but having shot archery since childhood age five and now 75, my archery started just after the last war, my mother and father started up an archery club in the U.K.
At the time bows and the like were not even available in any sport shop so my father a master carpenter and joiner did some homework and made all the equipment himself including all the arrows and flechings.
The bows were long bows, i think his bow was about 90 pound a nd my mothers was around the 60pund.
He mad bows for my sister and i which were a cut down version of a long bow at around 25 to 30 pound.
I carried on shooting and managed to do so while serving in the forces. This continued untill in the 1990 s when after problem with my bones made it impossible to shoot anymore by which time i was a master bowman.
I admit to missing the sport and wokuld sugest that anyone wanting to take part should give it a go as it is good for self control and very good exercise.
Barebow is a sanctioned class of archery according to World Archery. This is what Barebow is and what I am referencing. You would be talking more of a "traditional" class.
Every time you shot an arrow, your bow arm swings to the left, is there any reason for that? I thought the arm should stay straight when you follow through. Is these any thing I missed?
Just the direction I’m exerting pressure on the bow. Alignment isn’t ideal yet so the bow pops left.
Why did you retire so early btw?
Try and get your anchor up , it will reduce your Rawls
I wish I hadn't sold my stab now. Who'd have thought it would be useful for BB? =]
I think you'll do great in barebow div. Just drop 5 lb in draw weight 👍
Maybe 10
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Jake, how what do you feel about dropping sight and clicker? How would describe your shooting without those things?
Maybe you need to chance your anchor a few more high so the crawl not too far from nocking point 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Doesn’t seem like too much compared to what I’ve seen. That’s only a 10m target but I’ll for sure be playing with it.
Had to be yet another American!
It's always the aiming thing
nice Jake
I AM 3D
i don't even want to mess around with takedowns . I want it to be a simple as possible ie no limb judgments, arrow rests, etc
Having multiple configurations is fun without being too expensive if you buy used. I have a 3-piece take-down, an old Bear (one piece) recurve, and a nice little long bow. If I were competing I suppose I'd need to select one and work with it, but I just shoot for fun.
@@itsjim2875 up gate.... I have one on order 8-)
Your first time session is better than that of many top BB shoters with 15 plus years of experience. As soon as you figure out your best anchor point you'll be sticking them.
Which top BB shooters would that be???? As far as I can see the top BB shooters are pounding the X at 18m and shooting 560+ WA18 and 640+ WA50. The Lancaster/Vegas/Rome/KoA scores prove it. As do the national records for barebow for Sweden, USA, UK, Italy, France. ... all 550+ on a40cm face at 18m. So please tell us who these top BB guys with 15+ years of experience are who cant hit the gold on a 60cm target at 10 yds. Would be interested to know their names...
@@skysurferboy Not all BB archers compete, but still have 15+ years of experience.
@@skysurferboy You do understand what positive reinforcement is and why people use it? Especially in order to support someone when they start at something that is less familiar or new to them. Non of your top BB shooters ( that are pounding the X) got hurt by my comment and I am sure they would understand why I said it and I don't think they ( the top BB shooters that pounding the X) need you or anyone else to be their internet defense attorney.
Have a good day!
@@blackbow8749 your comment didnt sound like positive reinforcement it just sounded crass and naive. You have a great day too buddy!
Best quiver: your pocket :D
Zupa Gutt
You need Jeorge Sprave’s help 😉😊
Do you ever forget that you are not using a sling and have the bow bouncing up towards the target? 😖😖😖😊
Apparently I own your old 40lbs ns limbs. Want them back?😄
Oh brother ...You think that bow is too strong for you ???
I am shooting with a hunting english longbow of 100 pounds , and I think is not strong enough ...
Oh well... Wellcome in the bare bow archers club !!!!
Eh, I don’t have anything to prove haha
Should reach out to John demmer he could probably help you out.
So just a tip looks like your still anchoring off you chin like your supposed to with Olympic style. Try anchoring off your front canine. You'll notice the difference.