The step-dad from the first story is using your mom and even wanted to take advantage of her son. He would have been out on his ass if that was my house.
Yeah, it speaks volumes to his character (or lack thereof) that he thought it was appropriate to try and charge rent to his stepson without speaking to his wife. This is double concerning because Stepdad would have though the house belonged to his wife. I'd bet money he was planning to pocket that money.
step dad in the first story over stepping really. that should be the mom requesting rent (if she had owned it) not him. dude should of stayed out of it.
He's been raising the kid for 10 years under the impression that the family home was the mothers, this is a big fraud on her part. The Kid will rightly want to sell/ divest or push the parents out to start his own family, and the mother SHOULD have told the husband this so they could plan and buy a new house. Try to have some empathy for a guy who did the beta bucks thing and wifed up a single mother, only to get shafted like this.
yea even in his own perspective he would be in the wrong, he thougt his wife owned the house, you cant sell/rent out something that someone else owns, be it wife or stepson dosent change anything, it is not his. i would imagine that the mother/stepdad did over the years pay for maintenance on the house, and kid turning 18 would not make him immidetly capable of covering the costs of the house. i imagine the kid is keeping the stepdad/mother there cause he actually needs to. either everyone stays or it will be sold. if I was the kid and doing well id demand whatever rent from him that he was demanding from me, and failing those demands id tell him to get out. the mother would hafto make a choice, stay and only visit him at his new place or get out.
Op should kick them both out as soon as possible before they start the harassment. Step dad is going to resent op because his plan to leach off ops mom ulis doomed to failure. He'll start presuring op to move out and let them have the house or sign it over to them completely. This guy is a user, and op needs to keep their guard up.
Story 3 how to alienate your own daughter and then pity the stepdaughter it was the OPs responsible to understand her family doesn't have an obligation to gift nora anything and have shown before the birthday they wouldn't and OP punishing Amy for nothing yeah if I were her I'd be asking about staying with grandparents as she isn't being seen at home as an individual.
All I agree with everything you say I also have to point out that opie's family is also kind of being an asshole to Nora who didn't do anything wrong other than exist.
@LadyZubat No, they're not a whole Nora, isn't blood to them, they don't have to pull out of their pockets and you don't even know what's the family finances like.
as soon as he brought up rent I would have said "okay, write up a rental agreement with what you believe is fair and we will go from there." Then inform him you own the house afterwards. The more money he tries to squeeze out, the more he ends up paying. He gets to do all the paperwork since he pulled this shit without talking to mom first.
Not out of line. My kids better have a job or be going to school when they are done with high-school. Not having a lazy person sit around the house all day and contribute nothing to the household.
It’s all about the approach. SD was quick to give OP an ultimatum over a house HE doesn’t own. Sounds like a user to me. I understand what others are saying in the comments, but the step dad tried to make a power move and it backfired.
More than likely, or to get rid of op so he can presure mom into putting the house in his name. Ops dad was smart not to trust the mom. Clearly, she does not have ops best interests at heart but that of herself and step dad.
Story 3: you cared so much about Nora that you were blinded to your own daughter. Then you treated Amy just like you accused your family to treat Nora.
Story 3. Yes YTAI & my 3rd eldest sister hated shared Bday parties. I'm 1year & 15days younger. We had many combined Bdays, we were very poor & as an adult I can understand it was driven by financial reasons but as a kid, IT SUCKED. Especially as the other 3 sisters had separate ones, their days were far apart. Combining parties on their 1st 1 together.....VERY BAD IDEA! I wrote this the instant I heard OP say it. Hope it doesn't go pear shaped.
Rude awakening when he learns that owning a house is not cheap and when the man tells the boy that he owns him money for any and all home improvements he made to the home. He will very quickly be crying to his mommy when he finds out about property taxes.
@@josephhodges9819 This is honestly such a a stupid comment to make given the situation outlined in the video. Must be cut from the same cloth step dad was. Ridiculous.
2nd story, the father IS BLAMELESS. The amount of groupies that throw themselves at musicians is in the millions. I've been a Roadie/ theatre tech for near 30 years, local bands have dozens trying to get backstage, headliners have thousands-10s of thousands each concert. The Mother had some idea, the Father had none
The father is completely to blame. He had sex with random strangers, possibly even underage or naive girls, with the knowledge that this could result in pregnancy. During and after his tours he was thoughtful about the possibility about having a child- because he willing and knowingly engaged in sex with the risk of pregnancy. You're not absolved of responsibility of an unplanned pregnancy just because thousands of women are throwing themselves at you. You could've said no. You could've ensured use of contraceptives. You could've had sex with trustworthy partners. Absolutely no one was forcing you to have sex with random fame obsessed women.
@brightiris And he should've kept it in his pants if he couldn't "realistically" keep track of his own sexual choices. Perhaps he shouldn't have chosen a lifestyle he can't keep up with. Having sex is a responsibility, not just a fun thing with zero consequences. And how do you know the mother didn't try tracking the father down? We're talking about 30-50 years ago when tracking a missing parent with just DNA was impossible. That's being realistic for you.
@@i10i60 He was with a band, and seems to be a very popular one too. There's just no way that mother couldn't do anything to reach out to him. With how his lifestyle was, how many women do you think would JUMP on him? Hundreds if not thousands EVERY DAY. Sure he was hella reckless, but that doesn't absolve the mother's responsibility to not search for him or at least tell the daughter that they were one night stands with absolutely no strings attached. That mother was at fault too for jumping on his dxck and get herself pregnant.
@brightiris A "very popular band" 50-30 years ago means ancient history today. It is absolutely possible that he wasn't reachable. That "very popular" status would make it even harder to reach him or to be tajen seriously. Heard of Billie Jean? Even if she did reach someone who knows him, would they believe her? Let's say she manages to somehow get a hold of this "very popular" band's agent. Do you think he'd give her any time? You know the number of women that go around claiming to have some famous guy's kid? That fact that hundreds, if not thousands of women were jumping his bones, makes it harder for her to reach him or be taken seriously.
With story 1, I think the subject of rent pulls away from the issues at hand. Like one commentor said, the step-dad felt emboldened enough to go behind his wife's back and demand money from OP. Even if the mom had clear title to the home, such an important financial commitment should be something discussed with both parents involved, not just one. Then we must consider what would the ultematum be... is the step-dad that sure of himself that he's ready to kick his wife's kid out of his wife's home, making OP homeless over a few hundred dollars he wasn't owed?
For the 2nd story, I understand the concept of family not only being beyond blood. However, certain situations are different. I didn't choose for my family members to get married to someone else who already has a kid. I am not obligated to spend money on someone with no family significance other than their parent being married to my family member. If my family members are going to be upset that I'm not spending money equally on their stepchild as much as their biological child, it's like they are telling me that I should spend money on a stranger as much as someone in my family.
its not about equal spending, it is about one kid being ignored completly i understand that you are more for your blood family but ignoring the other kid is still a jerk move
@@pahhw1533 They didn't completely ignore the step-child. They did buy her a token gift. I think they should have done more but they are under no obligation to do so.
@@c0dexc0re71 I'm going to have to listen to it again, but I was pretty sure it was the grandparents that went crazy with gifts to their blood granddaughter and only bought step-graddaughter a token gift. It was the parents that wanted the daughter to share her presents with the step-sis. Edit: OK. You were correct overall. The grandparents bought the token gift and the other relative bought stuff only for their blood relation. Again - I think they should have done more but are under no obligation to do so.
That first guy, he never paid anything for the house, thought he owned half because he married the mom, what did he do with his money? If you are not paying rent or a mortgage and he had a job he'd be rolling in it. Then wanted more at a time when kid is only just starting to graduate highschool and starting further education. He should be charging the adults rent so he can pay for school.
I always find it weird when the parents expect rent at 18. It's fair enough if the kid is already graduated and has a job but how do they expect someone that's still in school to pay rent.
@@AVDB95 Right? When was he supposed to pick up this full time job that pays enough pay rent to live in his own bedroom while trying to go to school? It's such a babyboomer thing to do, even worse since the guy isn't paying his own rent. You can no longer go to school get a weekend job and buy a car and have college money in the U.S. His talk should have been about how they are going to support him in college.
@@Iflie Let alone that for some students keeping up their grades takes a lot off time, so getting a weekend job might not be possible without their grades suffering. But at the same time I do think OP was also being a bit petty. Afterall has mom (and maybe also his stepdad) have been paying the bills for the house for years so OP asking rent also doesn't make sense either.
@@AVDB95 It's hos moms responsability to pay the upkeep of her kid, it's going to be a ton cheaper because it doesn't include rent. I think they should pay for him to study, at least pay for his rent at that place, he could be taking out a mortgage on this house and pay his way like that too and repay it once he's working. But I think stepdad should respect the money he saved as it wasn't from his wife but his non related son and his dad. I think he was trying to get him to leave the place actually, by not discussing it with the mom. Maybe he wanted to sell the house as it probably gained a lot in value in this market.
More likely, he wanted the mom to put the house in his name or leave it to him in her will. Op was in the way of his plan. Like one cominter said, sell the house and kick them out if that's how they think. They can have their own home then.
The mother is pretty pathetic for not standing up for her son to the stepdad who couldn't live by the conditions he wanted to empose on the son. The half sister sounds awful. Her mother probably poisoned he mind for sympathy to control the daughter, but she was old enough to know better than to torment a dying man. The son's family should have circled around the son who was standing up to the person who tormented their dying family member.
3rd Story: she may be part of your family but she's NOT part of theirs. Amy made her feelings known, you forced 2 people to share birthdays, share everything. They literally have 2 separate identities, are 2 separate people yet you insist on treating them as 1. Just wait until she gets old enough to leave and never talks to you again. You deserve every bit of it.
FIRST STORY: It's your home, you aren't his child, Tell them pack up and leave AND if not you will file formal eviction against them and enjoy YOUR HOUSE.
The mis conception of step dad! The step dad has no dominion nor authority over children that are not his! What he has is a relationship with the child’s mother and a companionship and possible friendship with the non-biological children! Any parent that puts their children in the hands of a step dad or a step mom is in violation of their responsibility as parents! It is not wise to remarry while nurturing children that belonged to a previous relationship! This meaning that the children are still little! You can clearly see that the mother has given a strong position to the step dad over her household and her child! It is clear from the step dad’s form of approaching the young man that he has been given this authority by the mother! This is a grave mistake that woman tend to make, these are usually woman without a proper spiritual education! This is a quite lucky I would say situation, but this is one n a lifetime! The child was fortunate that the house was under his name, imagine if it wasn’t, he would have been in a really hurtful situation! You don’t teach children or any human being for that matter by throwing them into the fire, you teach at the fireside with teaching and stories of experiences and ideas that open curiosity and imagination! You teach with love and dignity and with hope, not with fear and darkness and misfortune!
Story 3: I hate to say this, but I understand where OP’s family and Amy are coming from. Nora only came into the family less than 2 years ago. Also, OP’s relatives don’t live near her, so there’s a good chance they haven’t met. She may be family by marriage, but she’s still a stranger to them. It was also unfair of OP to ask Amy to share her gifts with Nora since her family intended for them to be hers. If she has to share everything all the time, it’s no wonder she doesn’t want to give up her gifts, and I’m glad Nora refused them. So, yeah, OP is definitely the a-hole.
I'd be surprised if many of the extended family and even OPs own parents know Nora and Jenna that well or at all. Just because OP decided that this will be her family doesn't mean that the rest will do this too.
Story 5. NTA. You treat step-son exactly the same as your bio kids. I think wife is clinging to her baby, maybe empty nest thingy? Of the 2 of you, She is the 1 treating her bio kid differently than her step kids.
DNA: This story is a perfect example as to the "why not to do" those tests. People get it in their head that they are going to meet this great person. Nope, just a can of worms that turn into a massive migraine.
I been a stepdad once and moved in to my wife's house. I never interfere when come to the economy between my wife's and her kids. Because nothing in the house was mine.
Since we've been married, my wife and I have had a joint checking account, a joint savings account, and we each have a small savings account of our own. The only money we can spend without the other's consent is in those two little accounts. Any joint account, it's a "Two Yeses, one No" situation.
Story one: as owner of the house, I am sure OP was all along paying the bills... the utilities, land rates, maintenance etc. Somehow these stories oversimplify to it just being a matter of rent paid to the owner. Not saying OP was on balance in the wrong, but the information is incredibly one sided.
I guarantee the step dad wasn't paying a fucking thing. He doesn't own the house and is not the kids dad so he has no right telling him to pay or get out period. You can't kick someone out of a house you don't own period. Stop trying to justify and explain bullshit.
S 1- your mom is a pos. She is allowing this. Make them move out. They are freeloading off you. Your mother should’ve stopped this immediately. Your step dad is out of line. You aren’t. They should be paying at least half. You do not have to be ‘nice’ about it either. After all, he wasn’t nice to you. He will not respect you if you ask for utilities.
I'm so sick and tired of "families support each other" to excuse really bad behavior. They don't care if you get abused, all they care about is their image A family member who was abused and it comes out, it's never going to be the same again. People are fighting for getting their family back to where it was, it doesn't happen It's a fairy tale and I think anyone who makes excuses for an abuser needs to be charged as a participator or whatever it's called Abuser can be tried and so should someone who cooperates with them 3:35
So, did the parents pay all the bills required to feed and raise the kid? A house can be owned by someone, yet still require mortgage payments, property taxes, maintenance fees, etc. Was the "owner" of the house paying for all these, or were the parents? Does the child expect to have all the bills paid by the parents until they are 30 years old? Forever, if they stay at home and never do the adult thing, and leave, or start paying for stuff they consume/benefit from, using the "It's my house" threat continually? Typical child who gets something for free, and then bites the hand...
Story 1 Wait he tell you to pay up or get out & you sit down & talk it out. Your a doormate. Force him out & tell your MOM your her Son. She must have forgotten that. A Mom that loves her son stands up for her Son.
that whole situation is dumb why would you leave a whole house to your kid and not your wife like where is she supposed to live? comepletely ungrateful husbands and this is the thanks she gets for birthing his "spawn"
@@stephonmanny7555 The circumstances of this child are unknown however if it was a decision to have the kid they both agreed to I still said what i said.
Another example of a parent putting their sex life before their kid. The number of stories on reddit and Sub reddits you herewith parents putting their new spouse and/or the spouses kids before their own is crazy.
Step parents can go one of two ways, they can be god awful people or they can just be people your parent fell in love with and who are trying to find some sort of balance. Mine was the first kind. I knew almost instantly meeting him that he wasn’t a nice person, he was sneaky, a liar and he told my mother what she needed to hear to get in the door. They married and from the day they married till the day he died, I never had a relationship with the guy, he was just there, I never spoke to him, we never interacted, they ended up having my sister who I love but we do not discuss her dad. She knows he wasn’t good to our mom, she knows I could not stand him but we do not discuss him because I think she knows I won’t lie about why if she asks. If the house belongs to the guy then it’s his property and the stepfather is a renter with no lease, he could put him out on the street if he wanted to.
I remember some of being four and more of five and six. I Remember my love for people as a child. To this day i can honesty say i still love all humans the same, it's simple love can be seen in all humans. So it's pretty much my religion, money can bring comfort with comfort the thoughts of love changes all people even myself. Lucky it's strikes me like lightning, a bright light of how much loving each person for what they are capable of not how we each decide to be. Humanity is the way it is because of how we love. Are we vigilant of humanity or just persevere with what we own.
s1... a waste of napoleon's teaching if you ask me (never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake) the moment he brought up the rent, you should have acted as if he had a point, and just ask questions. how much would that rent be? when do i start to pay it? is there any reason i cant just continue to live here without doing that?... and just get your answers. then once you have enough, you simply put those same terms on the table as your terms for him.
Story 3 is so dumb. Joining things if you're not twins almost never works plus just because your mind adjusted to the situation (Nora is much my child as is Amy) doesn't mean that the rest of the family also goes this way - I'd be surprised if many of them know her that well or at all plus it's pretty sad for a child to know this.
First story: step dad gets calls out for trying to ask for rent for a house OP owned. I would have sent a bill to stepdad in 15days and every month after to show step dad ur responsibility and earning income at the same time.
5th Story: NTA, everyone knows what you did for the oldest kids, The opportunities you are offering to give him a job. Interviews are part of getting jobs and she is showing her true colors. He's 18, a legal adult, tell her too bad if she doesn't like it. Sounds like she wants you to hand everything to him on a silver platter without working for it, What's next? Her telling you he should never be there on time, should leave any time he wants, take off as many days as he wants, shouldn't be expected to work and he still receive a FULL paycheck???
19:38)is he the only/majority owner? If he is, he should contact the personnel section.Tell them that, if her son does not go in for an interview, he is not to be hired. If he does, leave the decision to them about the job. Looks like she is another Mrs. 2nd Lieu Tenant type.
I would be telling my mom she could stay but the step dad had to go since I own the house That means I can decide who lives in it and who doesn't. My mom would be free to go with him if she so choose or she could stay but he would have to go.
Nah, she allowed this garbage, she is using him too. She needs to go. She chose to marry him, she chose to not tell her husband she doesn’t own the house, she can kick rocks
Hold on, so the first story where the kid actually owns the house, I'm assuming the house is paid off from when his father died his life insurance probably paid the house off. That means, depending on how long the stepdad has been with his mom, the stepdad has been living there and rent and mortgage free the whole time so all this time the stepdad has been basically freeloading because anyone else in the real world would it be paying a monthly mortgage or a monthly rent just to live. But this stuff that I got lucky and met a woman whose ex-husband passed away and is now living in a mortgage free home so he thought he hit the jackpot I'm sure. And then he got even greedier and figured he could scrounge a few hundred bucks from her son when he turns 18 and charge him rent. That is crazy I would kick him out immediately when after I turn 18 SMH he didn't have any good intentions at all and he's been freeloading this whole time. And he would have nerve if he cried about having to pay rent now because he's been living rent and mortgage free for how many years he's been living there the kid's dad was alive. The kids dad dies and his insurance probably pays off the house meaning the mom is now a widow, This Man shows up in the mom's life and marries her and I was living rent and mortgage free the moment he stepped foot in that house
First story. After that laugh and that first dinner conversation I would’ve said how dare you disrespect my father spirit he’s still in this house. Gtfo!!!!
One thing missing the comments is the fact that does Man did have a hand in raising him for seems to be majority of his life? So just to dismiss the stepfather of not being his father is kinda unfair in a way. The rest is another story
For the life of me, i can't understand this concept of having your kids paying rent. Maybe, maaaaybe if it was something like "kid, i want you to start trying with jobs and bills. Find a job and we will put half the salary in this bank account that you can't touch until you move out, or i think it is for a good expense." But straight out asking for rent? That sounds cold and callous.
Story 4: if I was the groom, I'd give back the wedding gift and the $500, cause $1k is more than enough, even if their combined funds could afford $10k as a gift.
You grounded your daughter for opening up to you? What do you think is going to happen next time? You think she'll open up to you again at the risk of being punished for it? Ima be honest... you fucked up big on this one.
First story the comments in the op need to see op perspective if he suddenly chraged rent his mom and his family would be mad and probably go nc with him after they live do either suck it up or lose your entire family
I'm sorry but while being interesting for watching as a TH-cam thing, it is absolutely false. I don't know who made up the story. But they took a bunch elements at face value and developed a story without thinking below the surface. If his father so cold left him this home when he was 6 years old after he passed away. While someone tried to convince me by chance that not only did his father leave it to him, but in fact it wasn't paid off yet. That early in his parents relationship meaning the child is only 6 years old. There's no way he had paid off the mortgage for that house. Thus, there was an outstanding mortgage which was probably paid by his mother all of these years, until he was 18. And then, when they reach the stage of trying to compromise after confrontation and no red was gonna be assessed, but they would work out a deal where they helped him with electricity gas taxes on the house, all of these other things, which would be paid by somebody. Since he was 6 years old and that somebody would have to be his mother and his step, dad. So working out a deal where they would help pay for the things that they've been paying for all of these years is ridiculous at surface value. It doesn't make sense. That's why this is just a story. No more, no less. It was worked out to the point where it sounded logical, but there's no way that it could be other than what I just said.
This is bull.... . You say ok you can start contributing to paying the bills, so that means an under age kid has been paying all the bills since his dad died lol 😂
I feel this story is bullshit, one, does the 18 year old work? Probably not. So, even though the house is theirs they can't afford to keep up with the payments, as the adult, I'd stop paying the bills, let the house be foreclosed then buy it from the bank from the 18 year old. 🤷♂️ Welcome to reaility kid. Happy birthday, also, you now owe us rent for living here.
5th story. Making your kids interview for a job at your business when you’re giving them the job regardless is stupid and an AH move. WORKING will give them the confidence and life experience they need to handle future job interviews and work situations. That said, you’ve already done that for all your bio kids, so you aren’t TA for treating your stepson the same. Your wife wants special treatment for her baby
The kid who owned the house should pay the step dad and his mother back for 12 years of home maintenance, insurance and taxes. The whole story made me sick
The second story I feel the lost daughter should still receive something regardless. She's still his child and I feel the brother just saying that because he don't want to share. He don't know what the mother told her all these years. And one thing a lot of people don't get, when someone are so angry it's really pain, and the amount of anger you receive is the amount of pain they feel. The brother don't see her life through her eyes. Yes I would be mad and she would know it, but I wouldn't leave her out. The dad clearly said while crying he wanted to fix it while he could. So why wouldn't he want her to finally receive something from him.
fisrt story: did u ever paid for internet, cable, water, electricity, food, etc? no? now, to act as a family, you can bring yerself in holding that place up, maintenance wont pay itself either, and stop being a jerk.
Unmarried sex is wrong. The unknown daughter was righteous in her reaction. Was her birth certificate marked in red letters bast-rd as was sometimes the case in the last century?
House Ownership Story: Who has been paying the property taxes, insurance, and maintenance for the house since OP's father died? It certainly was not OP. Before OP starts flexing his muscle and ordering people around he should find out how much he needs to pay to maintain his own house. My homeowners insurance has been around $2k the last two years and my property tax was around $3000. I doubt OP has $5000 lying around to pay his own bills. Then of course there are all the utilities, gas/electric, water, phone, cable/internet,. He needs to feed and clothe himself. OP really needs to think before his mouth writes a check his broke 18 year-old ass can't cover.
@@hisuniquestyle3269 Projecting what? Caution? Caution is always a good idea when dealing with financial matters. Are you triggered that I referred to OP as broke? There are only a handful of 18yearolds who aren't broke.
If the deceased Dad left the son a house - an apparently paid-off house at that - who is to say he didn't leave a trust that took care of all those things? Also, the parent (Mom in this case) is legally responsible to provide food and shelter for the child - which means she was legal responsible for paying the bills. The fact that the step-dad did not tell the mother that he was asking the kid for 'rent' is highly suspicious. Now that the kid is 18 he *IS* responsible for paying those bills, so charging Mon and Step-Dad rent to cover those bills is the responsible thing to do. If he doesn't charge them rent now that he is legally responsible for paying the utilities, property taxes and insurance how is he supposed to pay for those things? He'd have to sell the house and then no one would have shelter. But to claim that a child under 18 should be responsible for his own maintenance is not only legally unsound, it is ridiculous.
@@Schweighsr No one said that a child under 18 should be responsible for his own maintenance. However, he is responsible now. He needs to think about all of it and how he will handle it. It is not like he has a job or income. We don't know anything about a trust or how the bills were handled. We just know that they were handled by someone, more than likely OP's mom and stepdad. It's a good assumption, but it is still an assumption. I'm betting that stepdad was paying taxes and insurance. This is why he was shocked to find out that the house was OP's and not his wife's. She probably lied to his face.
@@axepagode4321 So how do you expect the OP to pay all those bills if Mom and & Step-dad don't pay anything? You wrote" OP really needs to think before his mouth writes a check his broke 18 year-old ass can't cover." I agree that an 18 year-old is probably not in a position to pay all the bills. He should be going to college, not working to cover the taxes, insurance and utilities. Is he supposed to let his Mom & Step-dad live in *his* house for free, or is it appropriate for him to ask them to continue paying the, what? Ten to twelve thousand per year for those things (that is about what my house in a rich neighborhood costs)? I mean, where are Mom and Step-Dad going to find a rental for that cheap? The smallest apartment in my area cost three times what my paid-off house costs. It sounds to me as if the OP *is* being responsible - he is on the hook for the costs now, and his options are get rental income or sell the place - and he is probably cutting step-dad a good discount on what the market rent would be. The step-dad, on the other hand, gave minimal notice that he wanted the OP to pay rent and didn't even clear it with the actual home owner. The Mom never telling the step-dad that the house belongs to OP is 100% different from your belief that "She probably lied to his face". It sounds to me like Step-Dad wanted to make OP admit he was the big man in the home, and possibly force his wife's unwanted kid out of 'his' property. But even if he and the Mom divorced, the house wasn't a marital asset (because she got it from her late husband), so he'd have no claim on it no matter how many bills he paid. So, no, I don't think that the 18 year-old OP was in the wrong, nor do I believe that Step-dad had good intentions - if he had, he would have spoken to his wife about it.
Story 1: he inherited the house when he was FOUR. Who has been paying the bills on it (taxes, utilities, upkeep) for the past 14 years? Just the mom? Or had the stepdad been? The kid is the jerk for ignoring that fact. All the guy did was ask for rent. He backed down when confronted. He was pissy, sure, wouldn't you be if your wife wasn't honest for the past twelve years? If the kid you'd raised owned the house you were living in and paying for? Owning a house is expensive. Someone has been paying for all that and it wasn't the kid.
Are you forgetting that a parent is legally and morally obligated to provide those things for their child until they turn 18? She chose to have a kid and he chose to come in and be a step-dad. Also, paying a house's taxes is far cheaper than paying rent. They'd be responsible for paying all those utilities anyway. No offense, but your comment just now makes no sense.
@@WhamBamTySam I'm more pissed for the Wife the house should have been left for her not the child - Spouses come before children I dont care You can leave the child money but atleast make sure your wife is taken care of if you know your gonna die soon.
Are you forgetting that step dad does not own the house and thought the mom did. Yet he still wants op to give HIM rent money. It should go to the mom if she did own the house, not him. The mom didn't even know he did this. If she's the one who paid the bills, then she should ask for the money, not the greedy step dad. Op should ither kick them out or sell the place.
@@nataliereeves3594 "Them"?? Mom raised that bastard for 18 years by all counts the house should be relinqueshed to her. And since she was the one paying the bills for those years trying to kick her out would be "VERY" hard to do regardless of him being the owner.
So, this man dates a woman with a 6 year old boy, helps raising him, for a bit less than 12 years. Trying to be a dad for him, probably paying the bills, maybe renovating the house here and there, putting food on the table, paying vacations, family trips, etc and when he wants his stepson to be a man and contribute to the family, his stepson tells him to f**k off? How much of his food, clothes or anything else has the stepson ever payed or pays even right now? I think, that the "rent" is meant to be symbolic, to contribute to all the costs of the household, he's now getting a bit of adult treatment, to see what it's like. And the comments, ladies and gentlemen, 🎉 are proof of why so many men don't wanna date single moms. You can do everything for her and the kids, but as soon as it gets nasty youre gonna get dumped with nothing. Not your house, not your kid, not your family. None of your business...
BS story, Somebody paid the imaginary bills. When you turn 18 you should pay your way and respect your parents that paid your way. I worked and paid rent from 16 years old on. Your mother owns that house by common law. Except this is made up. When my senior parents needed help, I was there. Honor your Father and Your Mother.
dude, why is a STEP DAD demanding the son pay rent? Thats between him and his mother what tf. What right or business does he have to demand money for a house that isnt his? Does he pay rent? what tf does he contribute? unreal.
Nobody gets a free ride. Not you. Not him. If you own that house, then that’s a business, you are a landlord as your father intended. Your father worked hard for you to have that privilege. No matter who owns the property you both owe bills. You the landlord will owe some pretty high property taxes and utilities and constant maintenance. Does your dad expect to just live there for free because he’s family? No! He was gonna let you live there free, and your family.
I know stepdad was greedy in story 1 but that comment about him having no business parenting OP because he wasn't his real dad was way out of line and blatantly untrue
For the first story you're not a jerk it's your house and you have the right to charge rent
Free moneeey babyyyyyy
Oh you think I should learn about financial responsibility? So today's lesson is monetizing my assets.
Yes, then the man has the right to recoup any money for improvements that he made to the house since improvements fall under the homeowner.
@@josephhodges9819 I got oceanfront property in Nebraska to sell to you if you think that man has spent one dime on home improvements.
The step-dad from the first story is using your mom and even wanted to take advantage of her son. He would have been out on his ass if that was my house.
Yeah, it speaks volumes to his character (or lack thereof) that he thought it was appropriate to try and charge rent to his stepson without speaking to his wife. This is double concerning because Stepdad would have though the house belonged to his wife. I'd bet money he was planning to pocket that money.
step dad in the first story over stepping really. that should be the mom requesting rent (if she had owned it) not him. dude should of stayed out of it.
He's been raising the kid for 10 years under the impression that the family home was the mothers, this is a big fraud on her part. The Kid will rightly want to sell/ divest or push the parents out to start his own family, and the mother SHOULD have told the husband this so they could plan and buy a new house. Try to have some empathy for a guy who did the beta bucks thing and wifed up a single mother, only to get shafted like this.
Yea I would have been absolutely ruthless if he tried to pull that shit on me
yea even in his own perspective he would be in the wrong, he thougt his wife owned the house, you cant sell/rent out something that someone else owns, be it wife or stepson dosent change anything, it is not his. i would imagine that the mother/stepdad did over the years pay for maintenance on the house, and kid turning 18 would not make him immidetly capable of covering the costs of the house. i imagine the kid is keeping the stepdad/mother there cause he actually needs to. either everyone stays or it will be sold. if I was the kid and doing well id demand whatever rent from him that he was demanding from me, and failing those demands id tell him to get out. the mother would hafto make a choice, stay and only visit him at his new place or get out.
Once I found out the kids owns the house. I'm moving out and buying my own house. This is a tricky situation especially when the kids starts a family
The Step-dad sounds like a user taking advantage of the mother and was going to do the same with the son. Lucky he didn't get the house...
Op should kick them both out as soon as possible before they start the harassment. Step dad is going to resent op because his plan to leach off ops mom ulis doomed to failure. He'll start presuring op to move out and let them have the house or sign it over to them completely. This guy is a user, and op needs to keep their guard up.
Story 3 how to alienate your own daughter and then pity the stepdaughter it was the OPs responsible to understand her family doesn't have an obligation to gift nora anything and have shown before the birthday they wouldn't and OP punishing Amy for nothing yeah if I were her I'd be asking about staying with grandparents as she isn't being seen at home as an individual.
Funny how people expect "instant families", just add water and everybody is happy together, eh?
All I agree with everything you say I also have to point out that opie's family is also kind of being an asshole to Nora who didn't do anything wrong other than exist.
@LadyZubat No, they're not a whole Nora, isn't blood to them, they don't have to pull out of their pockets and you don't even know what's the family finances like.
Why would they care about nora?? @@LadyZubat
as soon as he brought up rent I would have said "okay, write up a rental agreement with what you believe is fair and we will go from there." Then inform him you own the house afterwards. The more money he tries to squeeze out, the more he ends up paying.
He gets to do all the paperwork since he pulled this shit without talking to mom first.
S1: the husband’s audacity is cRaZy. The fact that the mother didn’t put him in his place is even cRaZiEr.
Mom is a kiss asss
Not out of line. My kids better have a job or be going to school when they are done with high-school. Not having a lazy person sit around the house all day and contribute nothing to the household.
It’s all about the approach. SD was quick to give OP an ultimatum over a house HE doesn’t own. Sounds like a user to me. I understand what others are saying in the comments, but the step dad tried to make a power move and it backfired.
I bet he was planning to collect the rent instead of mom.
More than likely, or to get rid of op so he can presure mom into putting the house in his name. Ops dad was smart not to trust the mom. Clearly, she does not have ops best interests at heart but that of herself and step dad.
Ya that mother was an idiot for thinking two girls would want to share a birthday party
Story 3: you cared so much about Nora that you were blinded to your own daughter. Then you treated Amy just like you accused your family to treat Nora.
This is the best comment I've seen on this story.
Story 3. Yes YTAI & my 3rd eldest sister hated shared Bday parties. I'm 1year & 15days younger. We had many combined Bdays, we were very poor & as an adult I can understand it was driven by financial reasons but as a kid, IT SUCKED. Especially as the other 3 sisters had separate ones, their days were far apart.
Combining parties on their 1st 1 together.....VERY BAD IDEA!
I wrote this the instant I heard OP say it. Hope it doesn't go pear shaped.
Now you're 18 it's time to kick them out of the house and start your own family😂
Rude awakening when he learns that owning a house is not cheap and when the man tells the boy that he owns him money for any and all home improvements he made to the home. He will very quickly be crying to his mommy when he finds out about property taxes.
It sounded like the step dad wasn't paying any utilities either, he was going to pocket the money while mom pays the monthly bills
@@josephhodges9819 This is honestly such a a stupid comment to make given the situation outlined in the video. Must be cut from the same cloth step dad was. Ridiculous.
@@SetsunaMeiou-SailorPluto Tough talk behind a VPN. You are a troll.
@josephhodges9819 You must be the step dad the way you're being such a bitch about this
Stepdads whole generation is amazingly greedy
2nd story, the father IS BLAMELESS. The amount of groupies that throw themselves at musicians is in the millions. I've been a Roadie/ theatre tech for near 30 years, local bands have dozens trying to get backstage, headliners have thousands-10s of thousands each concert. The Mother had some idea, the Father had none
The father is completely to blame. He had sex with random strangers, possibly even underage or naive girls, with the knowledge that this could result in pregnancy. During and after his tours he was thoughtful about the possibility about having a child- because he willing and knowingly engaged in sex with the risk of pregnancy.
You're not absolved of responsibility of an unplanned pregnancy just because thousands of women are throwing themselves at you.
You could've said no. You could've ensured use of contraceptives. You could've had sex with trustworthy partners.
Absolutely no one was forcing you to have sex with random fame obsessed women.
@@i10i60Her mother should've told the father. There's no way in hell he could keep up with his previous lifestyle. Be realistic.
@brightiris And he should've kept it in his pants if he couldn't "realistically" keep track of his own sexual choices. Perhaps he shouldn't have chosen a lifestyle he can't keep up with. Having sex is a responsibility, not just a fun thing with zero consequences.
And how do you know the mother didn't try tracking the father down? We're talking about 30-50 years ago when tracking a missing parent with just DNA was impossible.
That's being realistic for you.
@@i10i60 He was with a band, and seems to be a very popular one too. There's just no way that mother couldn't do anything to reach out to him. With how his lifestyle was, how many women do you think would JUMP on him? Hundreds if not thousands EVERY DAY. Sure he was hella reckless, but that doesn't absolve the mother's responsibility to not search for him or at least tell the daughter that they were one night stands with absolutely no strings attached. That mother was at fault too for jumping on his dxck and get herself pregnant.
@brightiris A "very popular band" 50-30 years ago means ancient history today. It is absolutely possible that he wasn't reachable. That "very popular" status would make it even harder to reach him or to be tajen seriously. Heard of Billie Jean? Even if she did reach someone who knows him, would they believe her? Let's say she manages to somehow get a hold of this "very popular" band's agent. Do you think he'd give her any time? You know the number of women that go around claiming to have some famous guy's kid? That fact that hundreds, if not thousands of women were jumping his bones, makes it harder for her to reach him or be taken seriously.
With story 1, I think the subject of rent pulls away from the issues at hand. Like one commentor said, the step-dad felt emboldened enough to go behind his wife's back and demand money from OP. Even if the mom had clear title to the home, such an important financial commitment should be something discussed with both parents involved, not just one. Then we must consider what would the ultematum be... is the step-dad that sure of himself that he's ready to kick his wife's kid out of his wife's home, making OP homeless over a few hundred dollars he wasn't owed?
For the 2nd story, I understand the concept of family not only being beyond blood. However, certain situations are different.
I didn't choose for my family members to get married to someone else who already has a kid. I am not obligated to spend money on someone with no family significance other than their parent being married to my family member. If my family members are going to be upset that I'm not spending money equally on their stepchild as much as their biological child, it's like they are telling me that I should spend money on a stranger as much as someone in my family.
its not about equal spending, it is about one kid being ignored completly
i understand that you are more for your blood family but ignoring the other kid is still a jerk move
@@pahhw1533 They didn't completely ignore the step-child. They did buy her a token gift. I think they should have done more but they are under no obligation to do so.
@@rolandhansen812I'm pretty sure that most people did. I think it was only the OP's parents that bought the kid a token gift.
@@c0dexc0re71 I'm going to have to listen to it again, but I was pretty sure it was the grandparents that went crazy with gifts to their blood granddaughter and only bought step-graddaughter a token gift. It was the parents that wanted the daughter to share her presents with the step-sis.
Edit: OK. You were correct overall. The grandparents bought the token gift and the other relative bought stuff only for their blood relation.
Again - I think they should have done more but are under no obligation to do so.
Doesn't Nora have any blood relatives? I'm not obligated to buy gifts for step-relatives wth?
Your house, your rules.
The step-dad should be charged rent just like he wanted to spring it on op.
That first guy, he never paid anything for the house, thought he owned half because he married the mom, what did he do with his money? If you are not paying rent or a mortgage and he had a job he'd be rolling in it. Then wanted more at a time when kid is only just starting to graduate highschool and starting further education. He should be charging the adults rent so he can pay for school.
I always find it weird when the parents expect rent at 18. It's fair enough if the kid is already graduated and has a job but how do they expect someone that's still in school to pay rent.
@@AVDB95 Right? When was he supposed to pick up this full time job that pays enough pay rent to live in his own bedroom while trying to go to school?
It's such a babyboomer thing to do, even worse since the guy isn't paying his own rent. You can no longer go to school get a weekend job and buy a car and have college money in the U.S.
His talk should have been about how they are going to support him in college.
@@Iflie Let alone that for some students keeping up their grades takes a lot off time, so getting a weekend job might not be possible without their grades suffering.
But at the same time I do think OP was also being a bit petty. Afterall has mom (and maybe also his stepdad) have been paying the bills for the house for years so OP asking rent also doesn't make sense either.
@@AVDB95 It's hos moms responsability to pay the upkeep of her kid, it's going to be a ton cheaper because it doesn't include rent.
I think they should pay for him to study, at least pay for his rent at that place, he could be taking out a mortgage on this house and pay his way like that too and repay it once he's working.
But I think stepdad should respect the money he saved as it wasn't from his wife but his non related son and his dad. I think he was trying to get him to leave the place actually, by not discussing it with the mom. Maybe he wanted to sell the house as it probably gained a lot in value in this market.
More likely, he wanted the mom to put the house in his name or leave it to him in her will. Op was in the way of his plan. Like one cominter said, sell the house and kick them out if that's how they think. They can have their own home then.
The mother is pretty pathetic for not standing up for her son to the stepdad who couldn't live by the conditions he wanted to empose on the son.
The half sister sounds awful. Her mother probably poisoned he mind for sympathy to control the daughter, but she was old enough to know better than to torment a dying man. The son's family should have circled around the son who was standing up to the person who tormented their dying family member.
3rd Story: she may be part of your family but she's NOT part of theirs. Amy made her feelings known, you forced 2 people to share birthdays, share everything. They literally have 2 separate identities, are 2 separate people yet you insist on treating them as 1. Just wait until she gets old enough to leave and never talks to you again. You deserve every bit of it.
The joint birthday party was a really dumb idea.
FIRST STORY: It's your home, you aren't his child, Tell them pack up and leave AND if not you will file formal eviction against them and enjoy YOUR HOUSE.
The mis conception of step dad! The step dad has no dominion nor authority over children that are not his! What he has is a relationship with the child’s mother and a companionship and possible friendship with the non-biological children! Any parent that puts their children in the hands of a step dad or a step mom is in violation of their responsibility as parents! It is not wise to remarry while nurturing children that belonged to a previous relationship! This meaning that the children are still little! You can clearly see that the mother has given a strong position to the step dad over her household and her child! It is clear from the step dad’s form of approaching the young man that he has been given this authority by the mother! This is a grave mistake that woman tend to make, these are usually woman without a proper spiritual education! This is a quite lucky I would say situation, but this is one n a lifetime! The child was fortunate that the house was under his name, imagine if it wasn’t, he would have been in a really hurtful situation! You don’t teach children or any human being for that matter by throwing them into the fire, you teach at the fireside with teaching and stories of experiences and ideas that open curiosity and imagination! You teach with love and dignity and with hope, not with fear and darkness and misfortune!
3rd story is basically manipulative af like the way she wrote it just gave me trauma made me know she twisted the words to suit her narrative
Story 3: I hate to say this, but I understand where OP’s family and Amy are coming from. Nora only came into the family less than 2 years ago. Also, OP’s relatives don’t live near her, so there’s a good chance they haven’t met. She may be family by marriage, but she’s still a stranger to them. It was also unfair of OP to ask Amy to share her gifts with Nora since her family intended for them to be hers. If she has to share everything all the time, it’s no wonder she doesn’t want to give up her gifts, and I’m glad Nora refused them. So, yeah, OP is definitely the a-hole.
I'd be surprised if many of the extended family and even OPs own parents know Nora and Jenna that well or at all. Just because OP decided that this will be her family doesn't mean that the rest will do this too.
In story 3, the path to hell is indeed paved with good intentions. In wanting one to feel included, she took both of their independence.
S1: That's a pretty funny uno reverse card to play
S3: that is some dumb parenting. Course it backfired
Story 5. NTA. You treat step-son exactly the same as your bio kids. I think wife is clinging to her baby, maybe empty nest thingy? Of the 2 of you, She is the 1 treating her bio kid differently than her step kids.
DNA: This story is a perfect example as to the "why not to do" those tests.
People get it in their head that they are going to meet this great person. Nope, just a can of worms that turn into a massive migraine.
Before you turned 18, who was paying the property taxes on the house?
I been a stepdad once and moved in to my wife's house. I never interfere when come to the economy between my wife's and her kids. Because nothing in the house was mine.
First story, bro needs to force the stepdad to pay rent. I would be more vicious if a stepdad tried to do me like that
I don't care how hard your life has been. Never assume you're entitled to anything.
The first story, He’s abusive and wanted you gone to isolate your mother for easier abuse. She needs to run.
Since we've been married, my wife and I have had a joint checking account, a joint savings account, and we each have a small savings account of our own. The only money we can spend without the other's consent is in those two little accounts. Any joint account, it's a "Two Yeses, one No" situation.
Nah, not me. My house is my home. No one comes between me and it. Not even blood family.
Story one: as owner of the house, I am sure OP was all along paying the bills... the utilities, land rates, maintenance etc. Somehow these stories oversimplify to it just being a matter of rent paid to the owner. Not saying OP was on balance in the wrong, but the information is incredibly one sided.
I guarantee the step dad wasn't paying a fucking thing. He doesn't own the house and is not the kids dad so he has no right telling him to pay or get out period. You can't kick someone out of a house you don't own period. Stop trying to justify and explain bullshit.
Allow mom to stay, and kick step dad out.
S 1- your mom is a pos. She is allowing this. Make them move out. They are freeloading off you. Your mother should’ve stopped this immediately. Your step dad is out of line. You aren’t. They should be paying at least half. You do not have to be ‘nice’ about it either. After all, he wasn’t nice to you. He will not respect you if you ask for utilities.
I'm so sick and tired of "families support each other" to excuse really bad behavior.
They don't care if you get abused, all they care about is their image
A family member who was abused and it comes out, it's never going to be the same again. People are fighting for getting their family back to where it was, it doesn't happen
It's a fairy tale and I think anyone who makes excuses for an abuser needs to be charged as a participator or whatever it's called
Abuser can be tried and so should someone who cooperates with them 3:35
So, did the parents pay all the bills required to feed and raise the kid? A house can be owned by someone, yet still require mortgage payments, property taxes, maintenance fees, etc. Was the "owner" of the house paying for all these, or were the parents? Does the child expect to have all the bills paid by the parents until they are 30 years old? Forever, if they stay at home and never do the adult thing, and leave, or start paying for stuff they consume/benefit from, using the "It's my house" threat continually? Typical child who gets something for free, and then bites the hand...
Story 1 Wait he tell you to pay up or get out & you sit down & talk it out. Your a doormate. Force him out & tell your MOM your her Son. She must have forgotten that. A Mom that loves her son stands up for her Son.
that whole situation is dumb why would you leave a whole house to your kid and not your wife like where is she supposed to live? comepletely ungrateful husbands and this is the thanks she gets for birthing his "spawn"
@@TeaTimeTableThey were never married. They just had a child together.
@@stephonmanny7555 The circumstances of this child are unknown however if it was a decision to have the kid they both agreed to I still said what i said.
@@TeaTimeTable His responsibility as a father was to take care of his son and that’s what he did. Also we don’t know what he left the mother.
Another example of a parent putting their sex life before their kid. The number of stories on reddit and Sub reddits you herewith parents putting their new spouse and/or the spouses kids before their own is crazy.
Step dad should have to take care of your mom. He should have checked his privilege. He needs to buy his own house.
Step parents can go one of two ways, they can be god awful people or they can just be people your parent fell in love with and who are trying to find some sort of balance. Mine was the first kind. I knew almost instantly meeting him that he wasn’t a nice person, he was sneaky, a liar and he told my mother what she needed to hear to get in the door. They married and from the day they married till the day he died, I never had a relationship with the guy, he was just there, I never spoke to him, we never interacted, they ended up having my sister who I love but we do not discuss her dad. She knows he wasn’t good to our mom, she knows I could not stand him but we do not discuss him because I think she knows I won’t lie about why if she asks. If the house belongs to the guy then it’s his property and the stepfather is a renter with no lease, he could put him out on the street if he wanted to.
Dad knew not to leave the house to mom
He shouldve asked whats a fair price for rent get a respnose? Then reveal its your house
You are awesome 💯 and facts ❤️
Immediate eviction motions
That what he needs for opening his mouth with that BS.
Stepdead seems like a free loader
I remember some of being four and more of five and six. I
Remember my love for people as a child. To this day i can honesty say i still love all humans the same, it's simple love can be seen in all humans. So it's pretty much my religion, money can bring comfort with comfort the thoughts of love changes all people even myself. Lucky it's strikes me like lightning, a bright light of how much loving each person for what they are capable of not how we each decide to be.
Humanity is the way it is because of how we love.
Are we vigilant of humanity or just persevere with what we own.
Double what ever he asks for.
So are we to assume he's not fed you or clothed you or maintained the house for the last 12 years?
s1... a waste of napoleon's teaching if you ask me (never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake) the moment he brought up the rent, you should have acted as if he had a point, and just ask questions. how much would that rent be? when do i start to pay it? is there any reason i cant just continue to live here without doing that?...
and just get your answers. then once you have enough, you simply put those same terms on the table as your terms for him.
I'd be charging step dad rent, or he can pick up mom at the drive Way
Story 3 is so dumb. Joining things if you're not twins almost never works plus just because your mind adjusted to the situation (Nora is much my child as is Amy) doesn't mean that the rest of the family also goes this way - I'd be surprised if many of them know her that well or at all plus it's pretty sad for a child to know this.
First story: step dad gets calls out for trying to ask for rent for a house OP owned. I would have sent a bill to stepdad in 15days and every month after to show step dad ur responsibility and earning income at the same time.
5th Story: NTA, everyone knows what you did for the oldest kids, The opportunities you are offering to give him a job. Interviews are part of getting jobs and she is showing her true colors. He's 18, a legal adult, tell her too bad if she doesn't like it. Sounds like she wants you to hand everything to him on a silver platter without working for it, What's next? Her telling you he should never be there on time, should leave any time he wants, take off as many days as he wants, shouldn't be expected to work and he still receive a FULL paycheck???
This story is not plausible. Who has been paying the taxes over the interim?
i know too many stories of kids who killed themselves because their parents forced them to get a job and pay rent. don't be this parent.
Joint bday parties are the dumbest idea ever in reguards to parties
The mom is yta. Birthdays are big days for children, shouldve discussed it first
19:38)is he the only/majority owner? If he is, he should contact the personnel section.Tell them that, if her son does not go in for an interview, he is not to be hired. If he does, leave the decision to them about the job. Looks like she is another Mrs. 2nd Lieu Tenant type.
I would be telling my mom she could stay but the step dad had to go since I own the house That means I can decide who lives in it and who doesn't. My mom would be free to go with him if she so choose or she could stay but he would have to go.
Nah, she allowed this garbage, she is using him too. She needs to go. She chose to marry him, she chose to not tell her husband she doesn’t own the house, she can kick rocks
Hold on, so the first story where the kid actually owns the house, I'm assuming the house is paid off from when his father died his life insurance probably paid the house off. That means, depending on how long the stepdad has been with his mom, the stepdad has been living there and rent and mortgage free the whole time so all this time the stepdad has been basically freeloading because anyone else in the real world would it be paying a monthly mortgage or a monthly rent just to live. But this stuff that I got lucky and met a woman whose ex-husband passed away and is now living in a mortgage free home so he thought he hit the jackpot I'm sure. And then he got even greedier and figured he could scrounge a few hundred bucks from her son when he turns 18 and charge him rent. That is crazy I would kick him out immediately when after I turn 18 SMH he didn't have any good intentions at all and he's been freeloading this whole time. And he would have nerve if he cried about having to pay rent now because he's been living rent and mortgage free for how many years he's been living there the kid's dad was alive. The kids dad dies and his insurance probably pays off the house meaning the mom is now a widow, This Man shows up in the mom's life and marries her and I was living rent and mortgage free the moment he stepped foot in that house
Joint b day party? That sucks !
First story. After that laugh and that first dinner conversation I would’ve said how dare you disrespect my father spirit he’s still in this house. Gtfo!!!!
One thing missing the comments is the fact that does Man did have a hand in raising him for seems to be majority of his life?
So just to dismiss the stepfather of not being his father is kinda unfair in a way.
The rest is another story
never throw a joint birthday
For the life of me, i can't understand this concept of having your kids paying rent. Maybe, maaaaybe if it was something like "kid, i want you to start trying with jobs and bills. Find a job and we will put half the salary in this bank account that you can't touch until you move out, or i think it is for a good expense." But straight out asking for rent? That sounds cold and callous.
In story 3 that whole family is sh*tty. If I buy 1 kid something I buy all of them something of equal value. That child did nothing wrong.
Story 4: if I was the groom, I'd give back the wedding gift and the $500, cause $1k is more than enough, even if their combined funds could afford $10k as a gift.
Who’s paying for electricity,food,water,internet,phone service, the clothes on your back etc? Just curious
I only listened to the first story but I don’t believe it. It’s a great subject to think about for sure. But it’s just an interesting fictional story.
Job interview
NTA
They all had to do an interview, so why shouldn’t heb
4th Story: Now reverse the genders. You are showing your true colors to him.
'Someone' has paid the rates & service accounts for the last 12 years - now I guess you will be !! Congrats !!
Background video is so annoying I decided not yo continue.
You grounded your daughter for opening up to you? What do you think is going to happen next time? You think she'll open up to you again at the risk of being punished for it? Ima be honest... you fucked up big on this one.
First story the comments in the op need to see op perspective if he suddenly chraged rent his mom and his family would be mad and probably go nc with him after they live do either suck it up or lose your entire family
I'm sorry but while being interesting for watching as a TH-cam thing, it is absolutely false. I don't know who made up the story. But they took a bunch elements at face value and developed a story without thinking below the surface. If his father so cold left him this home when he was 6 years old after he passed away. While someone tried to convince me by chance that not only did his father leave it to him, but in fact it wasn't paid off yet. That early in his parents relationship meaning the child is only 6 years old. There's no way he had paid off the mortgage for that house. Thus, there was an outstanding mortgage which was probably paid by his mother all of these years, until he was 18. And then, when they reach the stage of trying to compromise after confrontation and no red was gonna be assessed, but they would work out a deal where they helped him with electricity gas taxes on the house, all of these other things, which would be paid by somebody. Since he was 6 years old and that somebody would have to be his mother and his step, dad. So working out a deal where they would help pay for the things that they've been paying for all of these years is ridiculous at surface value. It doesn't make sense. That's why this is just a story. No more, no less. It was worked out to the point where it sounded logical, but there's no way that it could be other than what I just said.
This is bull.... . You say ok you can start contributing to paying the bills, so that means an under age kid has been paying all the bills since his dad died lol 😂
I feel this story is bullshit, one, does the 18 year old work? Probably not. So, even though the house is theirs they can't afford to keep up with the payments, as the adult, I'd stop paying the bills, let the house be foreclosed then buy it from the bank from the 18 year old. 🤷♂️ Welcome to reaility kid. Happy birthday, also, you now owe us rent for living here.
5th story. Making your kids interview for a job at your business when you’re giving them the job regardless is stupid and an AH move. WORKING will give them the confidence and life experience they need to handle future job interviews and work situations. That said, you’ve already done that for all your bio kids, so you aren’t TA for treating your stepson the same. Your wife wants special treatment for her baby
The kid who owned the house should pay the step dad and his mother back for 12 years of home maintenance, insurance and taxes. The whole story made me sick
The second story I feel the lost daughter should still receive something regardless. She's still his child and I feel the brother just saying that because he don't want to share. He don't know what the mother told her all these years. And one thing a lot of people don't get, when someone are so angry it's really pain, and the amount of anger you receive is the amount of pain they feel. The brother don't see her life through her eyes. Yes I would be mad and she would know it, but I wouldn't leave her out. The dad clearly said while crying he wanted to fix it while he could. So why wouldn't he want her to finally receive something from him.
fisrt story: did u ever paid for internet, cable, water, electricity, food, etc? no? now, to act as a family, you can bring yerself in holding that place up, maintenance wont pay itself either, and stop being a jerk.
finally someone in their senses
Unmarried sex is wrong. The unknown daughter was righteous in her reaction. Was her birth certificate marked in red letters bast-rd as was sometimes the case in the last century?
House Ownership Story: Who has been paying the property taxes, insurance, and maintenance for the house since OP's father died? It certainly was not OP. Before OP starts flexing his muscle and ordering people around he should find out how much he needs to pay to maintain his own house. My homeowners insurance has been around $2k the last two years and my property tax was around $3000. I doubt OP has $5000 lying around to pay his own bills. Then of course there are all the utilities, gas/electric, water, phone, cable/internet,. He needs to feed and clothe himself. OP really needs to think before his mouth writes a check his broke 18 year-old ass can't cover.
Oooooo sounds like you’re projecting.
@@hisuniquestyle3269 Projecting what? Caution? Caution is always a good idea when dealing with financial matters.
Are you triggered that I referred to OP as broke? There are only a handful of 18yearolds who aren't broke.
If the deceased Dad left the son a house - an apparently paid-off house at that - who is to say he didn't leave a trust that took care of all those things? Also, the parent (Mom in this case) is legally responsible to provide food and shelter for the child - which means she was legal responsible for paying the bills. The fact that the step-dad did not tell the mother that he was asking the kid for 'rent' is highly suspicious. Now that the kid is 18 he *IS* responsible for paying those bills, so charging Mon and Step-Dad rent to cover those bills is the responsible thing to do. If he doesn't charge them rent now that he is legally responsible for paying the utilities, property taxes and insurance how is he supposed to pay for those things? He'd have to sell the house and then no one would have shelter. But to claim that a child under 18 should be responsible for his own maintenance is not only legally unsound, it is ridiculous.
@@Schweighsr No one said that a child under 18 should be responsible for his own maintenance. However, he is responsible now. He needs to think about all of it and how he will handle it. It is not like he has a job or income.
We don't know anything about a trust or how the bills were handled. We just know that they were handled by someone, more than likely OP's mom and stepdad. It's a good assumption, but it is still an assumption.
I'm betting that stepdad was paying taxes and insurance. This is why he was shocked to find out that the house was OP's and not his wife's. She probably lied to his face.
@@axepagode4321 So how do you expect the OP to pay all those bills if Mom and & Step-dad don't pay anything? You wrote" OP really needs to think before his mouth writes a check his broke 18 year-old ass can't cover." I agree that an 18 year-old is probably not in a position to pay all the bills. He should be going to college, not working to cover the taxes, insurance and utilities.
Is he supposed to let his Mom & Step-dad live in *his* house for free, or is it appropriate for him to ask them to continue paying the, what? Ten to twelve thousand per year for those things (that is about what my house in a rich neighborhood costs)? I mean, where are Mom and Step-Dad going to find a rental for that cheap? The smallest apartment in my area cost three times what my paid-off house costs. It sounds to me as if the OP *is* being responsible - he is on the hook for the costs now, and his options are get rental income or sell the place - and he is probably cutting step-dad a good discount on what the market rent would be.
The step-dad, on the other hand, gave minimal notice that he wanted the OP to pay rent and didn't even clear it with the actual home owner. The Mom never telling the step-dad that the house belongs to OP is 100% different from your belief that "She probably lied to his face". It sounds to me like Step-Dad wanted to make OP admit he was the big man in the home, and possibly force his wife's unwanted kid out of 'his' property. But even if he and the Mom divorced, the house wasn't a marital asset (because she got it from her late husband), so he'd have no claim on it no matter how many bills he paid. So, no, I don't think that the 18 year-old OP was in the wrong, nor do I believe that Step-dad had good intentions - if he had, he would have spoken to his wife about it.
Story 1: he inherited the house when he was FOUR. Who has been paying the bills on it (taxes, utilities, upkeep) for the past 14 years? Just the mom? Or had the stepdad been? The kid is the jerk for ignoring that fact. All the guy did was ask for rent. He backed down when confronted. He was pissy, sure, wouldn't you be if your wife wasn't honest for the past twelve years? If the kid you'd raised owned the house you were living in and paying for? Owning a house is expensive. Someone has been paying for all that and it wasn't the kid.
Are you forgetting that a parent is legally and morally obligated to provide those things for their child until they turn 18? She chose to have a kid and he chose to come in and be a step-dad. Also, paying a house's taxes is far cheaper than paying rent. They'd be responsible for paying all those utilities anyway. No offense, but your comment just now makes no sense.
@@WhamBamTySam I'm more pissed for the Wife the house should have been left for her not the child - Spouses come before children I dont care You can leave the child money but atleast make sure your wife is taken care of if you know your gonna die soon.
@@TeaTimeTable they weren't married
Are you forgetting that step dad does not own the house and thought the mom did. Yet he still wants op to give HIM rent money. It should go to the mom if she did own the house, not him. The mom didn't even know he did this. If she's the one who paid the bills, then she should ask for the money, not the greedy step dad. Op should ither kick them out or sell the place.
@@nataliereeves3594 "Them"?? Mom raised that bastard for 18 years by all counts the house should be relinqueshed to her. And since she was the one paying the bills for those years trying to kick her out would be "VERY" hard to do regardless of him being the owner.
So, this man dates a woman with a 6 year old boy, helps raising him, for a bit less than 12 years. Trying to be a dad for him, probably paying the bills, maybe renovating the house here and there, putting food on the table, paying vacations, family trips, etc and when he wants his stepson to be a man and contribute to the family, his stepson tells him to f**k off? How much of his food, clothes or anything else has the stepson ever payed or pays even right now? I think, that the "rent" is meant to be symbolic, to contribute to all the costs of the household, he's now getting a bit of adult treatment, to see what it's like.
And the comments, ladies and gentlemen, 🎉 are proof of why so many men don't wanna date single moms. You can do everything for her and the kids, but as soon as it gets nasty youre gonna get dumped with nothing. Not your house, not your kid, not your family. None of your business...
BS story,
Somebody paid the imaginary bills.
When you turn 18 you should pay your way and respect your parents that paid your way.
I worked and paid rent from 16 years old on.
Your mother owns that house by common law.
Except this is made up.
When my senior parents needed help, I was there.
Honor your Father and Your Mother.
dude, why is a STEP DAD demanding the son pay rent? Thats between him and his mother what tf. What right or business does he have to demand money for a house that isnt his? Does he pay rent? what tf does he contribute? unreal.
Nobody gets a free ride. Not you. Not him. If you own that house, then that’s a business, you are a landlord as your father intended. Your father worked hard for you to have that privilege. No matter who owns the property you both owe bills. You the landlord will owe some pretty high property taxes and utilities and constant maintenance. Does your dad expect to just live there for free because he’s family? No! He was gonna let you live there free, and your family.
I know stepdad was greedy in story 1 but that comment about him having no business parenting OP because he wasn't his real dad was way out of line and blatantly untrue