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  • Sam shares an episode from the third season of Absolutely Mental, his audio series with Ricky Gervais. All 10 episodes have been released today (Wednesday, March 2, 2022) and are available for purchase now at AbsolutelyMental.com.
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  • @ctakitimu
    @ctakitimu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Yep, I remember being told that Santa wasn't real. 40 years ago now and I can still remember exactly where we were when my mother told me. I remember keeping a straight face and trying to take the news like a young man (I was 9). I looked at my mother with a straight face and asked her if there was anything else that wasn't true? She looked at me and said yes, the tooth fairy isn't real, it's just me putting money out for you and taking the tooth away.
    I broke down and cried. Yep, I remember exactly.

    • @toby9999
      @toby9999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had figured it out myself pretty quickly (maybe around 5. my 1st year at school). Most kids knew Santa wasn't real but I can imagine it could be distressing for older kids to be told.

    • @Starfish2145
      @Starfish2145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a horrible mother!

    • @ctakitimu
      @ctakitimu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Starfish2145 Was a less PC/woke time back then

    • @tottenhamhotspurish
      @tottenhamhotspurish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your mum sounds like she was a bit ill.
      I found out Santa wasn’t real at the age of 6 yrs old. I see my stepfather filling up my stocking which made me realise Santa wasn’t real.
      I put Santa on such a high pedestal; I felt like I was mourning the death of a saint.
      I think me having no good male role models in my life may have made me mourn the “death” of Santa because my subconscious mind needed a man like that to be real.
      I was the kind of kid that envied my friend’s when they was being grounded. My subconscious mind obviously knew the act of grounding is generally a sign of love, protection, discipline and above all - parental guidance.

    • @ctakitimu
      @ctakitimu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tottenhamhotspurish Yeah, I also had no father figure until I was about 9 or 10 I think I was

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You guys have great chemistry. Even when you disagree, you bounce off each other in an entertaining and respectful way. It's refreshing to listen to.

  • @JFromAcc
    @JFromAcc ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Please keep making these. Ricky was more thought provoking and Sam was funnier than I expected. Pleasant surprise.

  • @jamiedoucette9642
    @jamiedoucette9642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Sam, (and Ricky, for that matter), you have opened my eyes to new interpretations and the process of sifting through the melee of (mis)information this world serves up to us on a moment-to-moment basis, and I have become infinitely more articulate and tempered in my communication as a result. I am in eternal debt to your podcasts, even snippets of dialogue posted to this particular forum. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, because I can tell, at the base of all intellectualization, is a tremendous heart and compassion is at the root of your philosophical exploration. "Godspeed", in my impoverished language.

    • @Davidbeattiification
      @Davidbeattiification ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, what an amazingly nice thing to say, and very eloquently in my opinion.

  • @ggstylz
    @ggstylz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    That was so enjoyable. Philosophy and comedy. The ultimate cocktail!

    • @radar5464
      @radar5464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is kinda like Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. need more of these duos. 😊 comedians are truth tellers, and scientists are in search of truth (though illusive to some through their paradigms)

  • @RoadRunner217
    @RoadRunner217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The last minute _killed_ me.
    Man, I needed that laugh in these times.

    • @mr.didactic8642
      @mr.didactic8642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wrote my first joke a few days ago.
      A Chimp, orangutang and Joe Rogan was in a theatre, Rogan, being in the position to ask, asked, 'why is the earth round'?
      The monkey said 'it's something to do with gravity!'
      The orangutang said, 'there is not enough matter, it's something to do with dark matter!' Rogan said 'I think you are both right but I don't think it is so black and white!'
      Then said he googled and saw Tarzan was forever, and by the power of deduction thought there must be something before the big bang,
      upon which he asked, 'what about those Buddhists?'

    • @Resurrescion
      @Resurrescion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For reference, see th-cam.com/video/luZHL39v4qI/w-d-xo.html

  • @SingleDigitDriven
    @SingleDigitDriven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Absolutely loved this!!!!! I could listen to these 2 talk for days

  • @OSUCharger
    @OSUCharger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I LOVE hearing Sam laugh!

  • @mansamusamusictinatbonat2670
    @mansamusamusictinatbonat2670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The way ricky summarized the whole issue on truth,the pet and the reality of life with humour is the manifestation the great script writer and comedian he is.

    • @yoya4766
      @yoya4766 ปีที่แล้ว

      Outclasses Sam, in intellect, humour, explanation and insights.

  • @traceyoung5592
    @traceyoung5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What he says about Santa is 100% true. I’ll never forget how bad I felt when I had to admit to my kid that Santa was a crock. In fact, I’m pretty sure that he takes everything I say with a grain of salt to this day because of that and it has been well over 15 years since that dreadful day.
    Ironically, I often point out how the media constantly lies and he doesn’t entirely believe me.

  • @kidshealthcoza
    @kidshealthcoza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sam managed to get Ricky on the back foot from the get-go, targeting Ricky's most vulnerable spot, his empathy with animals.

  • @derekaarts4997
    @derekaarts4997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "the wicked web" that Sam refers to when we tell a lie is actually quite huge. Frees you up so much when you are not lying. Got to love Ricky's laugh.

    • @mjinba07
      @mjinba07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree for sure, but I have to add - rote avoidance of lying fits for some, and for Harris obviously, but I think most people understand that certain kinds of "white lies" are part of normal social discourse and not only use them but expect them. Human communication is often subtle and it sometimes includes tacit acceptance of what's actually being communicated in a lie.

    • @Sprite_525
      @Sprite_525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mjinba07 Sam addressed that a lot tho, if you Google the word ‘tact’ in his book “lying” it’s a big part of honesty. People who lack longterm experience with the precept of full-blown honesty often have that critique, that it’s too rigid of a rule to survive daily life. But there’s no requirement to blast out every fact in our minds. It’s simply not that kind of precept. You just avoid SAYING deliberately false things. We aren’t forced to put a megaphone to our mouth and about things without any filter like a Tourette’s patient. When a person really lives that precept of not lying, for a long time, you understand that it’s WAY easier than it seems. It just takes practice at first. That’s the less easy part: switching up from the reflexive white-lie habit, that is difficult. I grew up in a deceitful family so it was painted as unthinkable to be honest - it seemed like you’d end up as Jim Carey did from ‘Liar Liar’ , in constant chaos and misfortune if you were honest. It’s not true. It just takes practice.

    • @mjinba07
      @mjinba07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sprite_525 I imagine if one abandons white lies entirely, eventually their social circle gets used to it. I'm just saying that, handled thoughtfully in normal social interactions, some lies are understood as part of communication.
      "Do you think I look fat in this?"
      "uh... no it's fine." [Where the response otherwise would be something like, "not at all, looks great!"]
      It's a way of communicating that's not attempting deception but on tempering a difficult truth so that it allows the other to save face. And without a lot of extra verbiage or condescension it conveys, 'I care about your feelings.'
      I think Harris misses the subtlety angle. He's a good guy and a smart guy and, no doubt, his loved ones, friends and colleagues have come to appreciate his brutal honesty as, 'that's just Sam.' But in most normal human interactions it's not going to fly all that well. It's a little too on the nose, a little ASD. In most cases, people don't require that kind of blatant statement of truth.

    • @sidstovell2177
      @sidstovell2177 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mjinba07I have been thinking of the same situation - a friend asking how she looks in a dress. 'Beautiful material', is an answer. But I end up telling a white lie. Because people do get their feelings hurt, and never forget.

    • @mjinba07
      @mjinba07 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sidstovell2177 Being fully capable of deciding for herself how she looks in the dress, she may have instead been fishing for a few words of encouraging kindness or a vote of confidence before an evening out with others.
      We don't always say what we mean. Sometimes we don't even know what we mean. Sometimes we don't know what we mean but our friends and loved ones do, lol!
      So it's a judgment call. I just don't think most people want total 100% honesty from others all the time. And I don't think the world would work very well that way, either.

  • @taskforceandy2830
    @taskforceandy2830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “You don’t know until you open the box”
    That’s an under appreciated reference

    • @ctakitimu
      @ctakitimu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But it should have been "The cat is both alive and dead, in a superposition of both and neither."

  • @wendyktucker.awen-arts
    @wendyktucker.awen-arts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Delightful - Insightful - Choc Full of Substance. I've deep respect for these two minds.

  • @lifemusic1980
    @lifemusic1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I could listen to Ricky's voice and laugh all day. ☺️

  • @MattRoszak
    @MattRoszak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked the first 10 minutes of this enough to go and buy all the episodes!
    It'll be something to listen to while I work on boring tasks.

  • @barkYdarkATFB
    @barkYdarkATFB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve never been disappointed when I see any blurb for Gervais in conversation with anyone. He’s a smart, quick witted, deep, honest, humorous critical thinker.

  • @KindHappyLove
    @KindHappyLove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My aunt is currently in the Hospital fighting with a bad infection that has made her Semi-delusional at points making her depressed and not eating. She has been on the verge of death.. fortunely recently things have started to turn around and she started eating again, but her health is still in jeopardy. Unexpectedly her daughter just passed likely from a blood clot. We decided not to tell her, but someone let the bad news slip out.. when she asked if her daughter died we said she is on medication and must have dreamed that. We lied. The Dr. and the family came to the conclusion that her knowing now would likely send her into a deep depression which would stunt and maybe reverse her recovery. I feel that sometimes lying is the right thing to do and being unwilling to lie under the right circumstances is simply a display of selfishness disguised as righteousness. You may ease your conscious and suffering, but deal more harm and suffering to someone else. In conclusion I believe in noble lies.

    • @charlesb2895
      @charlesb2895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the sort of example i was hoping they would arrive to. Hope and the perception of hope has legitimate medical utility for certain situations and it is actually in the best interest for people to have hope to overcome an illness. Literally why do medical trials have a placebo group? It’s that important. I think it’s absolutely within ethical boundaries to consider lying in these cases

    • @KindHappyLove
      @KindHappyLove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlesb2895 thank you for taking the time to read and leave a excellent point on this comment.

  • @TheWendysuzanne
    @TheWendysuzanne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Sam Harris and Ricky Gervaise! My cat looked at me like I hung the moon. He gave me all of the love and trust he had in his heart, all for me, no one else. People underestimate the love a cat can give. No human has ever looked at me like that.

  • @authenticallysuperficial9874
    @authenticallysuperficial9874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boy what a great combo

  • @avaonalee
    @avaonalee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Depends on the cat... my cat is the most loving (and needy!) creature : she doesn't even like when I leave her to take a shower 😂

  • @maxwell4431
    @maxwell4431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Ricky Gervais. Even the way he laughs and cackles at his own jokes. Real glee, it makes it thoroughly enjoyable :)

  • @scotthallgv
    @scotthallgv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    @39:16 NAILED IT! If youre honest with people, they stop asking you stuff. This is honestly a godsend to have people stop bothering you with their inane bullshit all the time and only come to you with stuff that matters when it really counts. Im always honest with people and this is exactly how its played out for me. Folks dont come to me with trivial nonsense, but when they do ask me things, its usually something serious and something I want to help them with. I dont believe in lying in any capacity personally, I feel like its an extreme disservice to the people around you to lie.

    • @Christopher-md7tf
      @Christopher-md7tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well you sound like a fun person to hang out with...

    • @scotthallgv
      @scotthallgv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I AM! Thanks for noticing.

    • @mindsigh4
      @mindsigh4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      14:00 min. in, & they get into truth, i think Sam said it, like:" it's one thing to be honest, but is it useful?''
      i used to ask, is it helpful? , as apposed to how one of my family used to get kinda judgy with people & (in my judgment) be rude & tell them, & when i asked him what's the deal, he said "im just being honest,' with a, 'f'em if they can't take a joke", kind of attitude, so i considered that & said, ..".or are u being, using that as an excuse to just be mean?"
      i think it's a dance, between any two people, not everybody u know u wanna go deep with, which is trust, which begins with a back & forth, or a feel, & then courage, to be the first one to risk opening your life book for someone to read, lost my train... oh yeah, metaphor. everybody has their book (or books) of their life, & it's not cool rumaging around rifling thru the pages of someone elses book unless until invited, u let them open their book to whatever pages they want, (& u don't snoop when they're not looking, right?,the golden rule) when & if they feel like it, & u, each one of u, are looking at ur own books/lives differently cuz ur seeing it now thru their eyes too, dis- covering things from a new perspective, together.

    • @Christopher-md7tf
      @Christopher-md7tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scotthallgv Well now you've clearly broken your policy

  • @lessevdoolbretsim
    @lessevdoolbretsim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you're rich it's easier to sooth your conscience by thinking you're honest. But money gives you that social padding. Sometimes desperate people have to lie to survive.

  • @derekeuale2042
    @derekeuale2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Delusion is a sea of grey area I think. A great chat that, at once, demands self reflection and provides comedy. Thank you.

  • @thermalrain_yt9725
    @thermalrain_yt9725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who are these people who get upset their parents lied about Santa? That seems absurd to me. I remember figuring it out when I was little and I was alright I'm gonna bust this wide open. I remember them coming clean and I was like oh yeah I knew it. It was a great triumph for me and set up the rest of my life of trying to find out the truth in all things.

  • @nthdegreetuber
    @nthdegreetuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun discussion ! Dogs and Cats don't lie....Dogs are like family who always care how you're doing, while Cats are like family waiting for the inheritance after you die.

  • @ibji
    @ibji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was laughing so hard I couldn't hear what they were saying at the end...and it turned out they were laughing too.

  • @thepyrrhonist6152
    @thepyrrhonist6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    i have my disagreements with SH, but can always rely on his intellect, honesty, sincerity and curiosity to lead to interesting information. always like how he lets his guests finish their thoughts. big fan of RG.

    • @elijahjns81
      @elijahjns81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Big fan of both!

    • @Williamtipq
      @Williamtipq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’re just making him look correct that free will doesn’t exist, and your psychological weakness is a far greater mystery to me than the existence of free will. Because I know you know better.
      I know you have the information to override the false will that possessed you to say something so false, yet you didn’t. This type of weakness is mysterious. What does it take for someone with self awareness to act on it? Does one need to use psychedelics every day whilst studying only the psychology human bias? WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR YOU TO HAVE A WILL OF YOUR OWN?

    • @close2001
      @close2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Williamtipq calm down bro lmao

    • @thewakakeboarder
      @thewakakeboarder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Williamtipq what drugs open these rabbit holes?

    • @crowlsyong
      @crowlsyong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here Sam Harris needs to lie more. We all need to lie more.

  • @thegoodnamesaretaken
    @thegoodnamesaretaken ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation. Ricky makes a great point about how specific the questions of the kids need to be. Saying I don't know in response to what happens when someone dies is not very truthful when you believe nothing happens. My parents believed Santa to be an enriching experience for us (and I agree, it wasn't traumatic at all when we discovered, it made sense). Discovering the truth behind Santa is the most valuable lesson of all: question everything, especially the people and traditions that you trust. It is the basis of all critical thinking.

  • @gregmeissner9960
    @gregmeissner9960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how this talk seems to end because there is simply nothing good enough to follow Ricky’s concluding statement with.

  • @Zaekyr
    @Zaekyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have had both cats and dogs all my life, they are mostly the same in my eyes. They can each have remarkable personalities. Cats do not show you emotion like dogs do. They are simply more pragmatic.

  • @Snowboardjedi892
    @Snowboardjedi892 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely conversation. Sam’s anecdote regarding his honesty with his screenwriter friend says it all…

  • @FlightOfJatayu
    @FlightOfJatayu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How to teach your kids about life and death "I think what you should do is get your kid a very sick dog."

  • @Hollis_has_questions
    @Hollis_has_questions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My black cat, Pooh, was the love of my life. Our relationship was very intimate. I used to stretch his tail because I thought that if I had a tail - I’ve always wanted one - the vertebrae would be uncomfortably compressed, so it would be a pleasurable relief to have the vertebrae stretched. I tested my theory out on Pooh; it got to the point where I could catch his eye across the room and say “Gimme that tail,” and he would saunter over (yes, saunter), assume the position - horizontal to me, tail straight up - and I’d place my left hand on his back, just in front of his tail, take the tip gently but firmly between the thumb and first two fingers of my right hand, and pull steadily until I heard all the vertebrae crack. Don’t try this at home unless you start very young and your cat is as open to experimentation as Pooh was. He would only eat dry cat food outside, so I nicknamed him Al Fresco. He was very sociable, whereas I’m a homebody; when I would occasionally carry him around our apartment complex, strangers would come up to me and say “So YOU’RE Pooh’s mom!” I crocheted all the time, and although he often laid in my lap he never messed with my thread. He didn’t care for cat toys; instead, we conversed. It was a relationship of equals, or as close to equal as two sentient beings who didn’t speak each other’s native language could get. My husband, John, and I loved him very nearly as much as we loved each other. He died in January 2002 and John and I mourned him intensely. John died four months later, in April 2002; their ashes share an urn.

    • @bearskyshebearsky
      @bearskyshebearsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do the same to my cat! She loves it!

    • @Mrfloppaguy
      @Mrfloppaguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep writing.

  • @Burps6
    @Burps6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My brother in law has a terrible cat allergy. He can’t even be in a house with one. That’s why I have 2.

    • @mindsigh4
      @mindsigh4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's a win, win & win.

    • @kanttarellivaara
      @kanttarellivaara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What if he's lying?

    • @Burps6
      @Burps6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kanttarellivaara lol, possibly…..

  • @jessemunson1352
    @jessemunson1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's not that lying is wrong, it's that you can't say lying is a universal good

  • @StorytellingHeadshots
    @StorytellingHeadshots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never understand the attribution of greater love from a dog than a cat. Dogs are so food oriented.
    Every time I’m with a dog I feel like nothing more than a “treat dispenser”… they look at you with big “feed me” eyes… and people mistake it for love ana loyalty.
    In my experIence, cats want to be with you whether you have food or not. Maybe it has to do with the breed. Siamese cats in particular are extremely emotional and bond closely to their person. There are a number of videos of cats that mourn and miss their owner when they leave the house. Our cat turns herself inside out with joy when we get home. And sometimes she just comes over and says “hi” and then goes about her business, sleeping or playing. Very companionable.
    Cats seem to love “freely” while dogs are cute sycophants who are loyal… until the treats run out… and then good luck!
    Just my experience.

  • @colinellicott9737
    @colinellicott9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learning about Santa was a fantastic lesson in credulity. Every child should learn that lesson, the earlier the better.

    • @nateo7045
      @nateo7045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to elaborate?

    • @colinellicott9737
      @colinellicott9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nateo7045 Going through the process of being let down by Santa at the age of ~6 broke my ability to accept at face value what I am told. This was the founding of my life long skepticism. Almost 6 decades since.

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I was a kid I figured out Santa wasn't real because I wondered ''why do all these presents have brands/labels on them from different human companies? Hasbro, nintendo, casio etc. Aren't the elves/santas little helpers their own separate team?

  • @topjest9365
    @topjest9365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ricky Gervais: "I never lie for personal gain"
    umm okay.. are we just going to pretend he wasn't responsible for the invention of lying?

  • @wytchend
    @wytchend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely one of the best! Thank you Sam & Ricky

  • @yarlkymcfirblatherington9879
    @yarlkymcfirblatherington9879 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dogs are basically barking and defecating machines. Cats are fur coats with razor blades.

  • @maxrupo
    @maxrupo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The laughter at the end made my day

  • @hamersfeld
    @hamersfeld ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such clever boys and Sam you are a great parent we need to raise sceptics, it’s our duty but it must be the right time for our kids! Brilliant minds both of you!!!

  • @DrPatrickKingsep
    @DrPatrickKingsep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good! Thank you. This is Patrick from Mind Life Flow here...what an amazing collaboration of you two!! :)

  • @Starfish2145
    @Starfish2145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every cat is different…some are more dog like. However they generally are less needy than dogs.

  • @JaredAllaway
    @JaredAllaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The pretense of certainty that religious people indulge isolates truly grieving people. Imagine your a christian whose husband dies. You're surrounded by people who are just aiming their happy-talk at you. You're isolated in your grief. You're not actually getting real compassion from them you're getting a fantasy that is not meeting you in your moment of grief." -Sam Harris
    I think this point dovetails perfectly into at least one other aspect of Christianity being bad for society: the prosperity gospel, or Christians saying God wants you to make money, for example new Lexus's in the church parking lot.

    • @JaredAllaway
      @JaredAllaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @J I think you might’ve misunderstood what I was trying to say. I’m atheist. I don’t support meritocracy either. Michael Sandel has a book called Tyranny Of Merit

    • @JaredAllaway
      @JaredAllaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @J also people should help each other. People should help a woman whose husband died but American capitalism has everyone over worked and under paid so Americans can’t afford to do nice things for each other.

    • @MusicbyWordPlay
      @MusicbyWordPlay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredAllaway I'm not sure you understand what meritocracy means and I'm certain you didn't understand that book. If you are somehow under the impression that Professor Michael Sandel is against the idea of a meritocracy, you are very misinformed, sad to say.

    • @JaredAllaway
      @JaredAllaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MusicbyWordPlay I know whenever I like something I call it "tyranny"

    • @MusicbyWordPlay
      @MusicbyWordPlay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaredAllaway I do love a smartass. The only thing funnier than your smartass comment is imagining you in front of Michael Sandel, explaining to him what his book is about while he looks on wondering what went wrong.
      Personally, I would love to hear your arguments against the merits of the meritocracy. Please enlighten me.

  • @samicherif8796
    @samicherif8796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We live in an amazing era! You can listen to 2 idols of yours, that wouldn’t possibly meet in any different parallel universe!

  • @exercisefornormalpeople6731
    @exercisefornormalpeople6731 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Ricky Gervais

  • @sunshinesunshine6130
    @sunshinesunshine6130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a half poodle/schnauzer. Incredibly intelligent, doesn't moult, doesn't smell, athletic. Loves to please people, incredibly affectionate. Love her more than I could ever imagine. Perfect girl. Cats eat birds.

  • @JiminiCrikkit
    @JiminiCrikkit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best ending to a podcast for a while :D thank you for this

  • @MightySheep
    @MightySheep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember growing up my step mum was big on telling the kind of silly lies some adults like to tell children and I remember at some point I literally didn't trust a word she said anymore. I would repeat some of the things she told me to my friends at school when I was maybe 8-10 years old and it made me look like an idiot so I hated her for it.

  • @jimenadib
    @jimenadib ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy listening to both of you!

  • @TheLacedaemonian300
    @TheLacedaemonian300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a story I heard once. I think it was about a kid in Rome or something.
    Anyways, whenever he lied, his nose grew. Someone asked him if he ever lied, and the kid said
    "I can not tell a lie", but then his nose grew. So then he cut it off and it turned into a cherry tree and his dad and him ate cherries and lived inside of a whale forever.
    Something like, I can't remember exactly. I think his name was Spaghettio or something.
    It was a good story. You had have been there.

    • @keppikong
      @keppikong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Gunther Haas 🤣

  • @danielcranston375
    @danielcranston375 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sam you’re always so serious, this is great to see another side of your personality.

  • @redsparks2025
    @redsparks2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lying to others is pretty much understood. But lying to oneself is the bigger issue.

    • @thespiritofmadturner999
      @thespiritofmadturner999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to hear Sam Harris claim that he doesn't lie to himself.

  • @adamwhite1920
    @adamwhite1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding lies, what about when you're in a job interview? Everyone lies there for their own personal gain and usually it's not (or shouldn't be) a far stretch of the truth. I was once asked one of these silly questions: what would would you do if time and money were not important and you could do anything you liked? Well, unfortunately for me, I answered honestly. I told them I would be doing something other than what the job entailed. Needless to say, I didn't get the job.

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Ricky, thanks for the advice about dogs. It is a big responsibilty. Cheers, John

  • @csquared4538
    @csquared4538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish I could afford the series, this was very good. Though the topic of lying is one of my favorites from Sam. It's such a profound thing I've not been able to implement so far.

  • @Obi_Bong_Kenobi
    @Obi_Bong_Kenobi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    well done guys, funny, thoughtful and engaging. as always

  • @mzSte
    @mzSte 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So refreshing 😊

  • @maxmac7845
    @maxmac7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Domestic cats kill millions of birds every year. If you absolutely must own a cat, stick a bell on it and give adult birds a chance of escape. Baby birds have no defence against this apex predator.

    • @j.w.8663
      @j.w.8663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natural selection. Like covid.

    • @oldtimer7635
      @oldtimer7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think you should do the same to the birds, because all those maggots and insects have no defence against them either. ; )

    • @maxmac7845
      @maxmac7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@oldtimer7635 Domestic cat ownership is a choice. There is an obvious difference. I'm not sure if maggots and insects have ears in the traditional sense. I know the thought of tiddles going out, roaming free to decimate local birdlife might clash with the vegan cat owners sense of morality but that's the reality of the situation. Stick a bell on it.

    • @maxmac7845
      @maxmac7845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j.w.8663 Domestic cats are not natural. They are an introduced species.

    • @duncansteedman9986
      @duncansteedman9986 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolutely agree. A neighbour’s cats here are killing many birds in gardens. It’s so important to make feeders less accessible to cats - especially much higher up 👍

  • @janediaz7465
    @janediaz7465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😆There's less emotional attachment FROM a cat.

  • @emilyliz5857
    @emilyliz5857 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this dialogue.

  • @maggnar
    @maggnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In recent times, I was able to say to people: - I decide not to go to your party. So when they ask me why? Well, I I decided not to... Would you respect my decision and accept my capability of independence?

  • @jasonnapolitano1560
    @jasonnapolitano1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a super fun episode! When I saw a comedian and Sam Harris together, I was wondering how you would pull this off. Quite brilliant. And the ending with the sick dog. I was on the floor!! OmG.

  • @ozzyherrera1027
    @ozzyherrera1027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought all 3 series. 24 bucks. Well worth it considering all the content you get. Probably around 20 hrs of conversation

  • @benedictquek
    @benedictquek ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's not forget that all communication, be it truth or lie, is still subject to the perception, interpretation and reaction of the audience.

  • @PooperScooperTrooper
    @PooperScooperTrooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hah that ending joke from Ricky made me smile then laugh along with Ricky :-) Bloody love that bloke

  • @sfleischer1336
    @sfleischer1336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is refreshingly light! Sam's stuff can be really dark and heavy.

  • @bbobjs
    @bbobjs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a fairly major concept missing from the discussion of the ethics of lies is the difference between lies and dishonesty. A lie is when you say something you know is wrong, dishonesty is when you deliberately conceal the truth. The issue I see with how Sam has presented his position on lies, is that minimizing lies is only a means of minimizing deceit, it's not a commitment to maximizing truth. This is exemplified well when Ricky pushes Sam on the issue of lying to protect a child. Sam's response is essentially that he would simply give an evasive statement or otherwise avoid the subject.
    As an example of how this could be abused, imagine you've hidden a toy from a child, and they ask you "Do you know where my toy is?" There are several ways you could respond:
    1. I'm sure it's somewhere.
    2. It's in your room.
    3. No. (it's possible the toy moved since you hid it)
    None of these would be lies, but none of these address the child's questions honestly. In essence they're as deceitful as a lie, and I'd argue more so because you deny the child the possibility of directly vetting your claim.
    On the flip side, it's easy to imagine scenarios in which lies aren't primarily tools of deceit. A perfect example is when Sam told Ricky that comedy might not be his thing. Presumably, this was a lie told for the sake of making a joke.

  • @tommyvictorbuch6960
    @tommyvictorbuch6960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cats have emotions toward their "owners." There is a massive amount of demonstrations to find.
    There's a video on TH-cam, were a cat is watching a video of its recently deceased owner. There is clearly sorrow.
    And that's just one example out of many. Affection, emotions and more.

  • @LucasFontanillaManjarres
    @LucasFontanillaManjarres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this, I hoped Ricky would bring the example from Afterlife S03 about the kid with cancer asking if there's an Afterlife. I would also lie no doubt...

  • @denhamsux
    @denhamsux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can perhaps see the value of a lie when its purposed within the stories of boogie men etc in our developing history. Being that, when dealing with children, explaining the dangers of people and the world outside. It may not have the required and desired impact to instill the cation they should have / need. Using fear in such tales and the impact they have could indeed could mean the difference between life and death. In todays world perhaps no so much due to our current level of safety through knowledge and design. I love your work guys, keep it up.

  • @davidbentley4731
    @davidbentley4731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a really amazing discussion and has forced me to reevaluate quite a lot. I had never realised or given much thought to how much these small lies can really undermine one’s integrity even if they are well meant. It’s good to think that there is another way. It requires serious thought and effort rather than the lazy little lie.

  • @guitargus4504
    @guitargus4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks guys...I had a really great laughing session with this...Cheers

  • @MYRRHfamily
    @MYRRHfamily ปีที่แล้ว

    Sam’s book Lying is a must read. He showed incredible constraint not mentioning this because he overlapped with it so much in this conversation.

  • @justinrp87
    @justinrp87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there are situations where you can be honest but then discredit yourself. For instance in the case of the friend who is a bad actor but wants to pursue acting. Tell that person the reasons why you don’t think they’ll make it as an actor, but that you support them and you don’t want them to take a path that’s painful. Then, offer them ways on what they can do to have a higher chance of success. I think lying is just a quick answer and helps you bypass having a long discussion. Telling the truth requires you to create new paths and exploring new parts around a typically uncomfortable response unless you’re just okay with being brutal with your honesty. This conversation definitely makes me want to be honest and I’m realizing for me to be honest might require me to take some time to respond. I don’t try to lie and typically grew up with a default of not lying and I’ve found that socially I’ve changed to say white lies and I’m now encouraged to go back to how I was at a younger age and not tell these white lies. It seems like this is the key to unlocking how to be true to myself and live the life I want to live/ be the person I want to be.
    Thank you both for an amazing conversation! I’m such a fan of you both and hopefully I get an opportunity to see you live in LA some day, Sam!

  • @travisbickle8008
    @travisbickle8008 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SH has a great sense of humor

  • @curtisrahman8362
    @curtisrahman8362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's so funny that these two are friends

  • @tonyr1736
    @tonyr1736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Belief in God" is existence itself. The mind can think of God whatever it wants to, whether atheist, monotheist, or agnostic. It can also think it's Superman if it wants to. No "thought" of God, whether through logic, faith, reason, or rationality, is evidence of one's belief or disbelief in God. A grateful existence for the *present moment* is as congruent as one can get with the nature of reality, where compassion, empathy, and humility are found. It is then that the mind attempts to orbit around an abstraction of God, arising out of the painful need to be thankful for a gift as great as life.
    "Reflect deeply upon the creation, but do not reflect upon the essence of the Creator. Verily, His essence cannot be known other than to believe in it." - Prophet Muhammed

  • @AM-fw6jl
    @AM-fw6jl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are definitely some cats that hate to be left alone and need just as much attention as dogs. My siamese sometimes gets upset when I leave her (leave the room- not town, leaving town is a disaster) and yells at me. In my opinion, this is the best type of cat though.

  • @Johnwilkinsonofficial
    @Johnwilkinsonofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this has taught me that you can not lie to someones face, but you may shoot them in the face. i love moral philosophy!

  • @kellywakeland1835
    @kellywakeland1835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love you both, thank you.

  • @ladyaj7784
    @ladyaj7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great conversation! But the whole answer to Mr. Gervais quandry is, if you/we don't want the responsibility of our opinion influencing someone too much... don't give it. Because lying to get through the situation delicately is *just as influential* as telling the truth, it just gets us out of an awkward conversation... so ultimately, we are lying for selfish reasons again.

  • @mr.didactic8642
    @mr.didactic8642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wrote my first joke a few days ago.
    A Chimp, orangutang and Joe Rogan was in a theatre, Rogan, being in the position to ask, asked, 'why is the earth round'?
    The monkey said 'it's something to do with gravity!'
    The orangutang said, 'there is not enough matter, it's something to do with dark matter!' Rogan said 'I think you are both right but I don't think it is so black and white!'
    Then said he googled and saw Tarzan was forever, and by the power of deduction thought there must be something before the big bang,
    upon which he asked, 'what about those Buddhists?'

  • @anshulmehta1603
    @anshulmehta1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mom told me that lord shiva is the most powerful among all other hindu gods. The only reason I don’t hate her because she genuinely believed in what she was teaching me.

  • @engineerepixlele2845
    @engineerepixlele2845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao the sick dog ending is so true though😂

  • @rubentala4762
    @rubentala4762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That scene in The invention of lying with the mother is so heartbreaking. I wonder if Ricky was merely acting there.

  • @stanis_gaming
    @stanis_gaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was lovely walking my dog to the sound of this podcast :)

  • @r.p.mcmurphy6623
    @r.p.mcmurphy6623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, Sam...the Beatles doc was fantastic in so many way!

  • @christopherdawkins5392
    @christopherdawkins5392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant, not only get the dog, but a very sick dog. Too funny.

  • @naturalisted1714
    @naturalisted1714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If someone asks, "what happens after we die?", I say: We cannot know for sure, but I do know that only experience is experienced, and there cannot be an experience of no experience, and you cannot experience your own non-existence, and so death can only be followed by an experience. That doesn't mean that that experience will be a continuation of *this* consciousness.

  • @bajolunapod
    @bajolunapod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Double dose of atheism to endure the craze of the times. Thank you!

  • @byronchurch
    @byronchurch ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes 😂 Merry Christmas 😂 More !

  • @tommyryan7374
    @tommyryan7374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a legendary way to end that conversation

  • @CosmoPhiloPharmaco
    @CosmoPhiloPharmaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is interesting that Gervais choose this topic given his movie The Invention of Lying. I loved the movie.

  • @Sukerkin
    @Sukerkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a splendid way for me to have spent the past fifty minutes!

  • @overthrowaudio
    @overthrowaudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating discussion. I was hoping though that Ricky would ask Sam just how honest he was with his friend who wrote a "terrible" script. Did Sam tell him it's terrible or did he soften the blow with something like "it's not great" and if so, was that really being truthful?

  • @germancuervo945
    @germancuervo945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rickie Gervais and Ben Stiller together, what a Molotov cocktail.