Ya broke my heart Ava......I spent a few years at the Navy yard there in Charleston, from 1973-1976. She was a glory to behold for sure, and it holds so many great memories. To see it in its present state is difficult to say the least. Seriously, thanks so much for the history lesson and the video.
Thanks Mads. Great video - as always. Ava is really doing a great job with her parts. I've been here for years (maybe since the beginning) but I must say I'm really enjoying Ava's roles. Thanks.
Mads, have you seen Barefoot Travels. They are doing a Fountain Pajot that had the keels off in an early video. Looks like you are getting prepped for some 'oh glorious sanding.' YEAH!!!!!!
Gotta say Mad's that while I enjoy your "island hopping" sailing videos there is a certain uptick in you while your doing the DYI stuff. Enjoy all of it. Enjoy your "down" time. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the tour of the 44. We actually sailed a Fountaine Pajot 38’ around the Grenadines several years ago and loved it. Trust me when I say it was NOTHING like that boat. Lol. Enjoy Charleston!
Great show guys. Thank you Ava for showing us around the area. That powerhouse is way great. We just don't build like that anymore. Good luck on the repairs. Thank you 4 sharing 🙂
Really enjoyed the tour and talk on the keel fix. The 44 is so similar to the Saona 47. I noticed the sweet steering rod upgrade :) I'm really interested in the common design flaw you mentioned. Maybe something I need to address? Hope to see you at Annapolis :) f
Amazing, 2018 and the hatch covers are still raised above deck level. Don't get rid of the oven unless you've never ever used one, They will come in handy
Mads has a great plan for the poor keel, perhaps is had some well disguised dings early in it's life. Anyway it will soon be looking spiffy. Now Ava's well researched, delivered and edited boat tour and Naval Boatyard tours is like finding a channel within a channel. Keep it up!
Fun fact: use white spirits to detect cracks in GelCoat or any epoxy. Take a soaked cloth and wipe it over any spot in question. The white spirit evaporates quickly but remains little longer in the cracks. Works a charm
Hi Mads.....the 1708/epoxy system I used yielded 1/16" per lamination. 3 lams with a bit of sanding and very slight fairing between netted all bu 20:06 t 1/4". My supplier sent resin consumption figures of 3.35 oz per s.f., so I mixed at 3.5/oz and came up fine w/o much to spare. To glue the originqinal skin back on, I used the same formula with colloidal silica at mayonnaise consistency, witded with a 3/16x1/4 notched trowel at opposing directions on each side. Came out perfect with just enough squeeze out to indicate sufficient coverage. HTH FW&FS
Great balance of content in this video. Appreciate the tour of the Navy Yard, gives great context to the place you are working. That keel though 😲. Surprised you didn't find some old rubbish filling up the voids 🥴.
Ava just keeps getting better and better with her historical walking tours! I think I will watch again tomorrow! I've spent some time in Charleston, and know that if she gets the opportunity, there is so much more to see! There was a significant void on the upper sides of the keel insert where the mastic made no contact. Are you going to try to fill some of that with your fiberglassing?
Yea Eva is back. We missed you. Great boat. I’ve sailed the San Francisco Bay for years but since I’ve retired I bought the land version of a sail boat. Sort of. I now travel all over in my RV with Wesley the Westie and Jezebel the Scotty. I love all your videos and am happy that you’re getting to spend time with your family while sailing the world. Happy sailing and I look forward to the next video. 🌈☮️⛵️
It was great meeting you guys last Sunday! And Ava, what a wonderful tour! I've driven around the yard- age even saw them opening the side wall of the power house to remove the huge generators- but unfortunately there's only so much I can see while getting around in a tractor trailer lol. Hope to you guys soon in Oriental!
Ava nice tour! For both of you thanks for the good look at the cat. So many things I like about cats, but I’m old school and prefer sailing monos. That said my opinion might change if I could afford a near new cat.
Matt's enjoy the show. In the keels what do you think about adding perforated drain line running from fore to aft end you could access w plug to verify future water allibis in keel?
Will the new foam be closed cell n will it provide floatation in the event keels snap off? How will you reattach keels if manufacturers got it wrong, maybe instead of adhesive but foam. Easier to remove.
Mads, a quick warning. There are two flavors of 1708. On one the mat is glued and Epoxy will not disolve the glue and therefore cannot be used with epoxy. The alternative is sewn and works with both epoxy and polyester. Be careful that yours is sewn or you will have issues.
Architecture nerd: the huge buttresses and the characteristic brick bonds of the Dead House tells me that it was almost certainly a powder magazine or similar, or simply meant to be very secure. The brick roof is quite unusual. Either way while it might have been used to store bodies, maybe, once, nobody built it to that design for that purpose. The other possibility is that it was for detaining prisoners, and given Charleston's charming history when it comes to who got locked up or disciplined for what, we can let our imaginations run wild, and probably not think of anything worse than what actually happened.... Edit: I forgot to add that many many 19th C. powder magazines had arched roofs, which were intended to allow explosions to go upwards, rather than having the force travel sideways where it could hurt soldiers: and because an arched, brick roof would be much more resistant to a shell landing on it than any other roof.
Ava, possibly they could put a small air fryer in that space instead of the microwave. Mads needs to check the current draw if so. Enjoy the Holy City. --Dave
Excellent video as always! Loved Ava's history tour! Mads can you update everyone on the second keel please? Doesn't sound like you are going to drop it? If so why not. Thanks Malcolm (The DAN-FENDER guy)
I love the Catamaran but love the cost of the marina fees for a monohull and the ease of finding places to park. Here in Japan where I live there are no berths to be had and let alone two side by side for a Cat
It might be easier and less messy if you repair the panels first and then fill the keel with foam via those plug holes on the top. If you fill it with foam while it's on it's side and then drop the panel in place before it's fully cured, the foam might keep expanding and push the panels out causing some deformation. If you fill from the plugs you can be sure that the foam will expand into all the nooks and crannies and then you'll only have to excavate out enough foam to patch the plugs.
How come a boat as extensively equipped in terms of creature comforts is fitted with at least one keel that looked as if it had been cobbled together hurriedly in order to get the hull finished ?
I've "sailed" on both cruising and performance catamarans. It's no secret why a lot of the new cruising cats being built today are strictly motor cats. Why bother with sails & a mast when they are more like sailing a garbage scow anyhow, and to get even to the garbage scow level of "performance" the mast height doesn't even come close to being under the 65-foot threshold to go under any bridges? You might as well just not have the mast if they motor everywhere anyhow and then the boat can access the ICW in the US and get into smaller ports and more neat places. >65' severely limits where you can go. Heck, even over 50 or 55 feet limits where one can go once one gets off the beaten paths like the ICW. Fir example, right there in Charleston where Mads and Ava are there is a SUPER nice free anchorage a half mile past the "Mega Dock" (mega$$$) up the Ashley River called Brittlebank Park but you can't get there unless you can fit under the 56-foot bridge right there past the Safe Harbor megadock marina. You can't get across Florida via Lake Okeechobee unless you can get under the 55' railroad bridge in the middle. It's a LONG way around -especially when you need to beat into the Tradewinds the whole way. If you can sneak through you can get from the Dry Tortugas back to Vero Beach in a handful of easy day trips even if the wind is howling out of the East. Performance cats, on the other hand, are so weight-sensitive that you can't really cruise on them without being even more minimalist than a racey monohull. Even so, moving crew around on the boat like a couple of folks lounging on the trap totally messes the trim of the boat up and effects performance greatly under sail. I would encourage Mads and Ava to get a boat with s mast height no higher than 63' because that is the point where it really is difficult to get under bridges. They say that 65' is the standard on the ICW but there are rising waters and sinking bridges where if you are over 63' a boat will be doing a LOT of waiting around for tides to go under way too many bridges if you intend to do any cruising on the US east coast. It's an AWESOME cruising grounds. Getting a lower mast on a 50+ boat might be tough though unless it is a ketch. Lower mast height is an advantage of ketches. Or maybe you can find an old sailtraining schooner used by the sea scouts or something like that.
I am reading Clive Cussler's 1996 book "The Sea Hunters" in which he describes the civil war era submarine Hunley which operated out of Charleston. He states that she was "amazingly advanced for her time" and that she was propelled by men hand cranking the propeller. He goes on to state that a survey by the National Park Service's Submerged Cultural Resources Center "found that the submarine was more advanced and sophisticated than previously thought". By now recovery and preservation would be completed and I'm interested in finding out what "advanced" and "sophisticated" mean. I doubt that I will ever get to the U.S. so, as our roving correspondents, would you and Eva be willing to take us to the museum in Charleston to see the Hunley. Please say yes.
I've replied twice to your query but they haven't posted for some reason. From my reading the first Confederate ironclad was the Virginia which was originally the Union ship Merrimack. She was converted at the Norfolk navy yard after it;s capture by Confederate forces, Subsequent ironclads were built in Charelston SC amongst other places. A search for Confederate ironclads brought up a wealth of information which may be something you'd like to look into if interested. @@MegaWebsters
At the 20:27 mark you show the tops of the pv panels- are those 2 brown spots on 2 panels just dirt or damaged panel cells? Also the batteries , 12v x270ah x5 bats= 16200 if my math is right.
Solar. This might be a stupid question but ….. Is there a difference between solar for marine application and that for home ? I’ve just installed an off grid home solution of 5 kilowatts. The physical size of the inverter/mppt charger and battery is a lot less than those typically shown on sailing vessels and a lot simpler too.
The size of that hospital is a poignant reminder of the horrific human cost of the second world war (and, of course, all wars; past and present). That cat has a surprisingly high price tag for so many design flaws and manufacturing defects - but it's still an impressive piece of kit (if you can get over it having too many hulls). Stay safe out there.
Loved Ava’s tour of the boat and the surrounding areas. Thanks guys!
floating rv's are great most i see are under engines gogin in straight lines
with having 3 bad leeks on the keel you drooped. are you also going to drop the other keel to preemptively reinforce the top of the keel.
Ya broke my heart Ava......I spent a few years at the Navy yard there in Charleston, from 1973-1976. She was a glory to behold for sure, and it holds so many great memories. To see it in its present state is difficult to say the least. Seriously, thanks so much for the history lesson and the video.
Eva, you didn't jump on the trampoline... Keep your humor and smart wit... It so appreciated.
Ava is good at the historical travel stories. Need to do more of these at every location you're at.
I was stationed there from 84 to 89 great memories
Thats a beautiful boat!
Thanks Mads. Great video - as always. Ava is really doing a great job with her parts. I've been here for years (maybe since the beginning) but I must say I'm really enjoying Ava's roles. Thanks.
Mads, have you seen Barefoot Travels. They are doing a Fountain Pajot that had the keels off in an early video. Looks like you are getting prepped for some 'oh glorious sanding.' YEAH!!!!!!
Ava is such a natural at this , well done , Cheers!
Wow! Discovery Channel just showed the tour of the Power House and Hospital. Thank You Ava for starting my interest in the history of the Navy Yard!
Gotta say Mad's that while I enjoy your "island hopping" sailing videos there is a certain uptick in you while your doing the DYI stuff. Enjoy all of it. Enjoy your "down" time. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the tour of the 44. We actually sailed a Fountaine Pajot 38’ around the Grenadines several years ago and loved it. Trust me when I say it was NOTHING like that boat. Lol. Enjoy Charleston!
It doesn't matter what you say, watching Ava's tour tells me your next boat will have a bonus hull. 😀
Well he says they don’t want a catamaran. But does he say anything about three hulls?
@@ubbeus Good point.
Great show guys. Thank you Ava for showing us around the area. That powerhouse is way great. We just don't build like that anymore. Good luck on the repairs. Thank you 4 sharing 🙂
See you👍🏽🥰 so Nice to See Ava again
Well, that topped off my "Need Ava to explain things to me." meter.
Great video, the Ava history tours are always so interesting. Cant wait to see Mads get elbows deep in DIY fun again!
Really enjoyed the tour and talk on the keel fix. The 44 is so similar to the Saona 47. I noticed the sweet steering rod upgrade :) I'm really interested in the common design flaw you mentioned. Maybe something I need to address? Hope to see you at Annapolis :) f
Amazing, 2018 and the hatch covers are still raised above deck level.
Don't get rid of the oven unless you've never ever used one, They will come in handy
Mads has a great plan for the poor keel, perhaps is had some well disguised dings early in it's life. Anyway it will soon be looking spiffy.
Now Ava's well researched, delivered and edited boat tour and Naval Boatyard tours is like finding a channel within a channel. Keep it up!
Danke!
Super video guys. You are getting really good at this. I like the interesting mix of boat tour, local history and DIY. All great stuff.
The tour was great! I love the back and forth adventures that provide such a broader experience wherever you guys are.
So great that you both hit the different aspects..Mads equals techman (compliment)
Hi , another very interesting video , repairs and some history of the area .😍👍👍
Ah the catamaran technical area yoga class is needed for sure 🤣 Im never going to fit in there. Great video 2x👍
Fun fact: use white spirits to detect cracks in GelCoat or any epoxy. Take a soaked cloth and wipe it over any spot in question. The white spirit evaporates quickly but remains little longer in the cracks. Works a charm
Hi Mads.....the 1708/epoxy system I used yielded 1/16" per lamination. 3 lams with a bit of sanding and very slight fairing between netted all bu 20:06 t 1/4". My supplier sent resin consumption figures of 3.35 oz per s.f., so I mixed at 3.5/oz and came up fine w/o much to spare. To glue the originqinal skin back on, I used the same formula with colloidal silica at mayonnaise consistency, witded with a 3/16x1/4 notched trowel at opposing directions on each side. Came out perfect with just enough squeeze out to indicate sufficient coverage.
HTH
FW&FS
I always have a drink holder handy. I added a large breat pocket to my foulie bibs, perfect to hold a cup or beverage bottle.
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
Twin screws are the bomb-diggity!
Great balance of content in this video. Appreciate the tour of the Navy Yard, gives great context to the place you are working. That keel though 😲. Surprised you didn't find some old rubbish filling up the voids 🥴.
Ava just keeps getting better and better with her historical walking tours! I think I will watch again tomorrow! I've spent some time in Charleston, and know that if she gets the opportunity, there is so much more to see! There was a significant void on the upper sides of the keel insert where the mastic made no contact. Are you going to try to fill some of that with your fiberglassing?
Really interesting info on the boats and area.
Why isn't the other keel coming off? I can't imagine they suddenly made that one properly.
Great video
Yea Eva is back. We missed you. Great boat. I’ve sailed the San Francisco Bay for years but since I’ve retired I bought the land version of a sail boat. Sort of. I now travel all over in my RV with Wesley the Westie and Jezebel the Scotty. I love all your videos and am happy that you’re getting to spend time with your family while sailing the world. Happy sailing and I look forward to the next video. 🌈☮️⛵️
It was great meeting you guys last Sunday! And Ava, what a wonderful tour! I've driven around the yard- age even saw them opening the side wall of the power house to remove the huge generators- but unfortunately there's only so much I can see while getting around in a tractor trailer lol. Hope to you guys soon in Oriental!
Hi Danny :) It was great meeting you and Blair last Sunday. I hope we'll have time to stop by and see you on our way north :)
I can see you guys in one of those cats👍🏼😊
You tube channel “Learning the lines” just highlighted a 50’ sailboat that you might be interested in. Located in Michigan.
Ava nice tour! For both of you thanks for the good look at the cat. So many things I like about cats, but I’m old school and prefer sailing monos. That said my opinion might change if I could afford a near new cat.
Nice tour
Matt's enjoy the show. In the keels what do you think about adding perforated drain line running from fore to aft end you could access w plug to verify future water allibis in keel?
Great tour and vid!
To reattach those side panels you just have to glue and fasten some thick tabbing to the inside of the keel piece.
Is the expanding foam you are using a closed cell type to prevent water uptake and provide proper bouyancy?
Will the new foam be closed cell n will it provide floatation in the event keels snap off? How will you reattach keels if manufacturers got it wrong, maybe instead of adhesive but foam. Easier to remove.
You should drop the other keel and do the same thing to it
A Turkish towel fan I see. They def dry faster than normal terry cloth ones.
Mads, a quick warning. There are two flavors of 1708. On one the mat is glued and Epoxy will not disolve the glue and therefore cannot be used with epoxy. The alternative is sewn and works with both epoxy and polyester. Be careful that yours is sewn or you will have issues.
Architecture nerd: the huge buttresses and the characteristic brick bonds of the Dead House tells me that it was almost certainly a powder magazine or similar, or simply meant to be very secure. The brick roof is quite unusual. Either way while it might have been used to store bodies, maybe, once, nobody built it to that design for that purpose. The other possibility is that it was for detaining prisoners, and given Charleston's charming history when it comes to who got locked up or disciplined for what, we can let our imaginations run wild, and probably not think of anything worse than what actually happened....
Edit: I forgot to add that many many 19th C. powder magazines had arched roofs, which were intended to allow explosions to go upwards, rather than having the force travel sideways where it could hurt soldiers: and because an arched, brick roof would be much more resistant to a shell landing on it than any other roof.
Storage is the act of loading items onto a boat. Stowage is when and where those items are kept and secured. Locker space is stowage, not storage.
Ava, possibly they could put a small air fryer in that space instead of the microwave. Mads needs to check the current draw if so. Enjoy the Holy City. --Dave
Excellent video as always! Loved Ava's history tour! Mads can you update everyone on the second keel please? Doesn't sound like you are going to drop it? If so why not. Thanks Malcolm (The DAN-FENDER guy)
I think YT doesn't love you any more. No notifications for today's show. 😢
MADS! "vi skal lige rundt os se hvordan de andre lever" Du bliver rormand på et parcelhus hvis du ikke passer på nu! ;-)
👍👌❤️🇨🇦, sweet tour
I love the Catamaran but love the cost of the marina fees for a monohull and the ease of finding places to park. Here in Japan where I live there are no berths to be had and let alone two side by side for a Cat
It might be easier and less messy if you repair the panels first and then fill the keel with foam via those plug holes on the top. If you fill it with foam while it's on it's side and then drop the panel in place before it's fully cured, the foam might keep expanding and push the panels out causing some deformation. If you fill from the plugs you can be sure that the foam will expand into all the nooks and crannies and then you'll only have to excavate out enough foam to patch the plugs.
I was home ported out of Charleston Sep. 1982- Aug. 1985.
Nice luxury boat. Still, home made is best, Athena is still the cutest!
Looking like Mads will be fixing up a cat for you !
Spiffy catamaran do I sense a longing for one of these beautiful crafts by you guys ? Hmmmm mm🤫🤫🤫
I was mentally playing that "storage" drinking game as Ava gave the tour and I was indeed a little tipsy.
When y’all getting one.
I’m hearing storage (I want one)
Space (I want one)
Storage (I want one )
Big ❤
Huge❤
Storage ❤
Huge ❤
😂🤣🎯
Mads were not looking for a cat 🤦🏻🤷♂️
How come a boat as extensively equipped in terms of creature comforts is fitted with at least one keel that looked as if it had been cobbled together hurriedly in order to get the hull finished ?
@@charonstyxferryman that's every single production catamaran intended for the charter market.
thats a big as boat
Will the US ever teach the metric system,
A dish washer, are you kidding me? I had to repent after this boat tour, commandment #10 for sure. Great job guys.😊
I've "sailed" on both cruising and performance catamarans. It's no secret why a lot of the new cruising cats being built today are strictly motor cats. Why bother with sails & a mast when they are more like sailing a garbage scow anyhow, and to get even to the garbage scow level of "performance" the mast height doesn't even come close to being under the 65-foot threshold to go under any bridges? You might as well just not have the mast if they motor everywhere anyhow and then the boat can access the ICW in the US and get into smaller ports and more neat places. >65' severely limits where you can go. Heck, even over 50 or 55 feet limits where one can go once one gets off the beaten paths like the ICW.
Fir example, right there in Charleston where Mads and Ava are there is a SUPER nice free anchorage a half mile past the "Mega Dock" (mega$$$) up the Ashley River called Brittlebank Park but you can't get there unless you can fit under the 56-foot bridge right there past the Safe Harbor megadock marina. You can't get across Florida via Lake Okeechobee unless you can get under the 55' railroad bridge in the middle. It's a LONG way around -especially when you need to beat into the Tradewinds the whole way. If you can sneak through you can get from the Dry Tortugas back to Vero Beach in a handful of easy day trips even if the wind is howling out of the East.
Performance cats, on the other hand, are so weight-sensitive that you can't really cruise on them without being even more minimalist than a racey monohull. Even so, moving crew around on the boat like a couple of folks lounging on the trap totally messes the trim of the boat up and effects performance greatly under sail.
I would encourage Mads and Ava to get a boat with s mast height no higher than 63' because that is the point where it really is difficult to get under bridges. They say that 65' is the standard on the ICW but there are rising waters and sinking bridges where if you are over 63' a boat will be doing a LOT of waiting around for tides to go under way too many bridges if you intend to do any cruising on the US east coast. It's an AWESOME cruising grounds.
Getting a lower mast on a 50+ boat might be tough though unless it is a ketch. Lower mast height is an advantage of ketches. Or maybe you can find an old sailtraining schooner used by the sea scouts or something like that.
How long has you sister been cruising?
Galons and yards!? Please dont forget about metrical units!!
@Sail Life *_ And the AWARD for the most repeated word goes to Ava ..... "Over Here" 39 TIMES!!! _*
On next weeks video Ava and Mads go shopping for a project cat...
You know you want one then get one 😊😊😊
I am reading Clive Cussler's 1996 book "The Sea Hunters" in which he describes the civil war era submarine Hunley which operated out of Charleston. He states that she was "amazingly advanced for her time" and that she was propelled by men hand cranking the propeller. He goes on to state that a survey by the National Park Service's Submerged Cultural Resources Center "found that the submarine was more advanced and sophisticated than previously thought".
By now recovery and preservation would be completed and I'm interested in finding out what "advanced" and "sophisticated" mean. I doubt that I will ever get to the U.S. so, as our roving correspondents, would you and Eva be willing to take us to the museum in Charleston to see the Hunley. Please say yes.
Is Charleston where they launched the first 'Iron Clad' war ships during the Civil war?
I've replied twice to your query but they haven't posted for some reason. From my reading the first Confederate ironclad was the Virginia which was originally the Union ship Merrimack. She was converted at the Norfolk navy yard after it;s capture by Confederate forces, Subsequent ironclads were built in Charelston SC amongst other places. A search for Confederate ironclads brought up a wealth of information which may be something you'd like to look into if interested. @@MegaWebsters
I don’t understand…? They don’t have a y fridge downstairs by the cabins ?!… what a bummer 😢
Omg that boat huge...how much does a boat like that cost couple years old....know it's more than I could ever afford...
At the 20:27 mark you show the tops of the pv panels- are those 2 brown spots on 2 panels just dirt or damaged panel cells? Also the batteries , 12v x270ah x5 bats= 16200 if my math is right.
Solar. This might be a stupid question but ….. Is there a difference between solar for marine application and that for home ? I’ve just installed an off grid home solution of 5 kilowatts. The physical size of the inverter/mppt charger and battery is a lot less than those typically shown on sailing vessels and a lot simpler too.
I would just wonder, after the nonsense in the keel, what other shortcuts they took that I can't see. Yet.
Have we entered the "touring other people's boats" phase of the channel's evolution?
Did anyone say storage? :o
Isn't it symptomatic that in the US they have to heavily fence off a "Dead House" ...
Check with Andy @Boatworks Today regarding Totalt Boat and 1708.
He knows a bit or two😀
Fill the sacrificial keels with Charleston Chew! Its delicious and lightweight!
The size of that hospital is a poignant reminder of the horrific human cost of the second world war (and, of course, all wars; past and present). That cat has a surprisingly high price tag for so many design flaws and manufacturing defects - but it's still an impressive piece of kit (if you can get over it having too many hulls). Stay safe out there.
Ava is giving nauiti styles a run for their money
How comes a dishwasher is controversial? It'd be one of the first things I'd put in! 😂
Might be a bit heavy for a sailing channel, but Sullivan Island is history that should never be forgotten.😟
How many feet it's it in length. 50ft?
It sounds like you are trying to sell it, is it for sale?
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why are you only doing one keel?
What ever happened to just sailing ?
Are you suggesting they get themselves killed in hurricane season?
I saw a video the other day where the guy filled his rudder with Rice Krispies cereal to find the volume. Apparently math is hard.
He could have filled it with water, then pumped it out into a measuring barrel - the maths in metric is easy.
What does the manufacturer have to say about this?