I like this unit a LOT. Love the layout. I’m a big fan of solar. Take a look at bougerv flexible solar panels. These are game changers. Shading has very little impact on performance. Project Brupeg just put out a video of their installation.
Surprised to find you appear to be right, this is actually a different technology that addresses the reasons the flexible panels have sucked in the past. Shading still has a big impact on performance, but they handle it much better than silicon panels. Good find!
Bouge Has Yuma panels/Cigs that work great when part of it is shaded. If you put another 2000 watts of those on and say they put out 1000 watts when shaded that is still great.
Ya. I could see putting glass on the back bars and add additional flexible on other areas on a separate solar circuit for additional watts. Especially if you were planning to go with the all electric propulsion.
Ya. I missed that I hadn't changed the voice-over at the beginning. But when we start talking we mention its the 47' we are looking at so it matched the thumbnail, so I am sure people weren't confused.
Flexible has benefits too but glass panels have higher efficiency per square inch and the last decades. Flexible walk on panels won’t last as long. Buyers choice.
Ya. I planned to edit the voiceover to say we saw the 40 and 42 so let’s check out the 47’. The footage got updated but I forgot to record the new voiceover change. Ooops. Oh well the thumbnail said 47 and as soon as we started talking on the actual video we say we saw the 40 and 42 so now let’s tour the 47’. So it’s all good.
Flybridge raises boom, reducing sail area pointlessly, making less safe offshore. And that impact is much more than any additional weight for a door (and really there's maybe 10 pounds more for my door than not having the door.). I think rudders in front of a sail drive is a very bad idea. I think this indicates this is a boat meant for charter and not travel. "Right here at shoulder height... safety". LMAO. No, safety would be having it a bit below waist height so you can reach down into the sail cover and deal with the sail. This guy is a sales dude.
Below shoulder height is low enough IMO. I like the sport seat (half way up) like this. It is a good viewing position and yet keeps the boom low. This is not a Flybridge helm. The seating up there is just for sitting and the boom is just as low as if there was no seating up there. That seating is in Lieu of not having a front cockpit to sit in. No ocean spray hitting you up there. If you sit in a front cockpit in any decent waves you are most likely getting sprayed, making it a useless spot to sit except for at anchor on in fairly calm conditions.
Hi Roger, It is a true I am a sales man. I prefer and try to think of myself more as a consultant, especially when it comes to the brokerage market. I feel my job is to help guide my clients and figure things out rather than “sell” but it’s all about perspective and opinions I guess. Speaking of perspective and opinions, here would be my feed back on your comments; Flybridge - I would consider the “Flybridge” design to have the helm on the upper deck. For example Bali, Lagoon or the larger FP models the Samana and the Alegria. FP smaller models 40-51 have, what I would consider, to be recessed helm stations with upper deck lounge. The difference between this and Flybridge would be the boom height. On Flybridge models one would have to climb the mast or the bimini top to access the boom. The boom on the smaller FPs could not be any lower. The only other design that I know of with lower booms would be the likes of Balance, Exquiste Catana, Excess etc where the helm station is on deck level. Of course they have their strengths and weaknesses too, like every design and model. Forward door and cockpit - I wish it was only an extra 10 lbs to do this. I guess your thought is just cut a whole and add a door? Unfortunately not. The concept is similar to what car engineers need to do to create a convertible car model. It’s the reinforcement that adds all the weight. If you think about the catamaran design, where the door is or would be, is the part of the boat that takes the most pressure. For one, it has the pressure from the two hulls flexing and moving etc. Secondly, this is generally where the mast step is and where the load of the whole rig is. So to cut a big hole in this area requires an incredible amount of reinforcement. If you take a look at the Samana or Alegria and that area you will see the heavy structures used. Some manufacturers are okay with more flex, less stiffness, and to save the weight will add less support in this area. The down size here of course is much more flex and less stiffness leading to issues down the road. The Fountaine Pajot upper deck, is a nice compromise between the Flybridge and forward cockpit/door design. From a performance perspective it has a lower center of gravity than the Flybridge and less weight forward and stiffer design to the forward door/cockpit. I could go on and on here but this could turn into a thesis lol. Happy to talk about it if you would like, just text me and we can setup a time to talk. (832) 849 7322. Rudder forward of sail drives - this is an interesting comment. Honestly it’s something that never really comes up as an objection. We have been adding helm wheel locks recently to free up your hands while docking. Considering all of your objections I would say the Tanna is not the boat for you. Which is totally okay. There are so many options out there. There is no such thing as the perfect boat. Most who have gone through the process would agree it is about finding the best design overall that suits them. Every model will have pros, cons and compromises. That said, if there is anyone reading this that does really like the Tanna but is concerned about the rudder and sail drive orientation I would be happy to introduce you to current owners who have sailed and lived onboard for a while. The biggest concern that one may suggest would be a bent rudder interfering with the prop. I have a good friend and owner who actually lived through a scenario like this. Whilst navigating the new river in Lauderdale he cut too close to one corner and bent his rudder on some rocks. There was no impact the the sail drives, in fact he would report the rudder protected his sail drive and prop and he was able to navigate back to his dock using only his motors, even against the strong current on the new River. Last point about this being a better design for charter I would certainly disagree with. I would argue that charter companies would rather see the sail drive more forward and further from the transom, right? The further away from the swim ladder the better would be my thinking, especially with the risk of inexperienced operators onboard. I hope this is useful information. Again I would say there is no such thing as the perfect boat. It’s more about what each different person prefers. For the Tanna, in my opinion, I think it is a very nice combination of safety, performance and comfort for offshore cruising. There are certainly faster boats, or more comfortable boats, but the Tanna in my opinion, is a great balance of these.
@@Bowmans-Woods I have met a lot of people who complained about volvos needing a lot of routine maintenance and not being reliable if they don't get it. My experience wiht Yanmars is even the abused one in my first boat was surprisingly robust, and my new ones are solid as all get out.
The lay out (design) is wonderful. However, the interior decor is representative of the lowest price motel wannabe, contractor grade cheap crap! Ick! Yuk! Vomit! What is WRONG with you people? Offer a multihull that is an excellently designed catamaran but with the fantastic Hylas 49 masterpiece interior, so that an owner could sail a wondrously comfortable boat while experiencing the magnificent nautical decor of a real blue water yacht. Not happening here.
Really love this boat. Would love to see it in person.
It is a great size for live aboard
I like this unit a LOT. Love the layout.
I’m a big fan of solar. Take a look at bougerv flexible solar panels. These are game changers. Shading has very little impact on performance. Project Brupeg just put out a video of their installation.
Ok, great. Thanks for the info.
Surprised to find you appear to be right, this is actually a different technology that addresses the reasons the flexible panels have sucked in the past. Shading still has a big impact on performance, but they handle it much better than silicon panels. Good find!
Excellent video thank you brother
Thanks Jamie.
Thanks for the awesome video guys!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
wow, this is my fave boat so far
Yes. We loved the size and layout. 51’ is next. But the price jump is steep so I think this 47’ seems like better bang for the buck.
@@Bowmans-Woods yes it is the most balanced in terms of size and price.
47 is great size for sure. A bit crazy how fast prices go up with length.
I know! I was thinking the same thing. $500k more for the 51? Um, no. I’d stick to the 47 then.
Over 1.4M for Top Version and whole equipments 😂😂
Bouge Has Yuma panels/Cigs that work great when part of it is shaded. If you put another 2000 watts of those on and say they put out 1000 watts when shaded that is still great.
Ya. I could see putting glass on the back bars and add additional flexible on other areas on a separate solar circuit for additional watts. Especially if you were planning to go with the all electric propulsion.
I love this
I think you messed up the intro a bit. You used the intro from the 42' version not one for the 47' version.
Ya. I missed that I hadn't changed the voice-over at the beginning. But when we start talking we mention its the 47' we are looking at so it matched the thumbnail, so I am sure people weren't confused.
Heat pump washer dryer doesn’t require any venting to work properly.
Non vented never dry the clothes as fast. Everybody who gets the non vented says the same.
Where is a charts table?
Some don't bother since you have a table and few people use paper charts anymore.
Stack packs why doesn't anyone make them solar. I bet 500 watts maybe more per side. Cigs/Yuma panels can flex and are durable.
Flexible has benefits too but glass panels have higher efficiency per square inch and the last decades. Flexible walk on panels won’t last as long. Buyers choice.
I think your intro keeps referencing looking at the 42. Except this is a 47 video.
The previous video was the 42 and he’s comparing to that unit.
Ya. I planned to edit the voiceover to say we saw the 40 and 42 so let’s check out the 47’. The footage got updated but I forgot to record the new voiceover change. Ooops. Oh well the thumbnail said 47 and as soon as we started talking on the actual video we say we saw the 40 and 42 so now let’s tour the 47’. So it’s all good.
@@Bowmans-Woods Ah ha ! Another rum captain ?
Flybridge raises boom, reducing sail area pointlessly, making less safe offshore. And that impact is much more than any additional weight for a door (and really there's maybe 10 pounds more for my door than not having the door.). I think rudders in front of a sail drive is a very bad idea. I think this indicates this is a boat meant for charter and not travel.
"Right here at shoulder height... safety". LMAO. No, safety would be having it a bit below waist height so you can reach down into the sail cover and deal with the sail.
This guy is a sales dude.
Below shoulder height is low enough IMO. I like the sport seat (half way up) like this. It is a good viewing position and yet keeps the boom low. This is not a Flybridge helm. The seating up there is just for sitting and the boom is just as low as if there was no seating up there. That seating is in Lieu of not having a front cockpit to sit in. No ocean spray hitting you up there. If you sit in a front cockpit in any decent waves you are most likely getting sprayed, making it a useless spot to sit except for at anchor on in fairly calm conditions.
Hi Roger,
It is a true I am a sales man. I prefer and try to think of myself more as a consultant, especially when it comes to the brokerage market. I feel my job is to help guide my clients and figure things out rather than “sell” but it’s all about perspective and opinions I guess.
Speaking of perspective and opinions, here would be my feed back on your comments;
Flybridge - I would consider the “Flybridge” design to have the helm on the upper deck. For example Bali, Lagoon or the larger FP models the Samana and the Alegria. FP smaller models 40-51 have, what I would consider, to be recessed helm stations with upper deck lounge. The difference between this and Flybridge would be the boom height. On Flybridge models one would have to climb the mast or the bimini top to access the boom. The boom on the smaller FPs could not be any lower. The only other design that I know of with lower booms would be the likes of Balance, Exquiste Catana, Excess etc where the helm station is on deck level. Of course they have their strengths and weaknesses too, like every design and model.
Forward door and cockpit - I wish it was only an extra 10 lbs to do this. I guess your thought is just cut a whole and add a door? Unfortunately not. The concept is similar to what car engineers need to do to create a convertible car model. It’s the reinforcement that adds all the weight. If you think about the catamaran design, where the door is or would be, is the part of the boat that takes the most pressure. For one, it has the pressure from the two hulls flexing and moving etc. Secondly, this is generally where the mast step is and where the load of the whole rig is. So to cut a big hole in this area requires an incredible amount of reinforcement. If you take a look at the Samana or Alegria and that area you will see the heavy structures used. Some manufacturers are okay with more flex, less stiffness, and to save the weight will add less support in this area. The down size here of course is much more flex and less stiffness leading to issues down the road.
The Fountaine Pajot upper deck, is a nice compromise between the Flybridge and forward cockpit/door design. From a performance perspective it has a lower center of gravity than the Flybridge and less weight forward and stiffer design to the forward door/cockpit. I could go on and on here but this could turn into a thesis lol. Happy to talk about it if you would like, just text me and we can setup a time to talk. (832) 849 7322.
Rudder forward of sail drives - this is an interesting comment. Honestly it’s something that never really comes up as an objection. We have been adding helm wheel locks recently to free up your hands while docking. Considering all of your objections I would say the Tanna is not the boat for you. Which is totally okay. There are so many options out there. There is no such thing as the perfect boat. Most who have gone through the process would agree it is about finding the best design overall that suits them. Every model will have pros, cons and compromises. That said, if there is anyone reading this that does really like the Tanna but is concerned about the rudder and sail drive orientation I would be happy to introduce you to current owners who have sailed and lived onboard for a while. The biggest concern that one may suggest would be a bent rudder interfering with the prop. I have a good friend and owner who actually lived through a scenario like this. Whilst navigating the new river in Lauderdale he cut too close to one corner and bent his rudder on some rocks. There was no impact the the sail drives, in fact he would report the rudder protected his sail drive and prop and he was able to navigate back to his dock using only his motors, even against the strong current on the new River.
Last point about this being a better design for charter I would certainly disagree with. I would argue that charter companies would rather see the sail drive more forward and further from the transom, right? The further away from the swim ladder the better would be my thinking, especially with the risk of inexperienced operators onboard.
I hope this is useful information. Again I would say there is no such thing as the perfect boat. It’s more about what each different person prefers. For the Tanna, in my opinion, I think it is a very nice combination of safety, performance and comfort for offshore cruising. There are certainly faster boats, or more comfortable boats, but the Tanna in my opinion, is a great balance of these.
This is an outstanding reply
Yanmar engines are supposed to have a better reliability than Volvo,
Ok. Feedback is always welcome. I want to learn more before I buy. Thanks.
@@Bowmans-Woods my understanding is they are Japanese made, Have a reputation similar to Toyota,
@@Bowmans-Woods I have met a lot of people who complained about volvos needing a lot of routine maintenance and not being reliable if they don't get it. My experience wiht Yanmars is even the abused one in my first boat was surprisingly robust, and my new ones are solid as all get out.
The lay out (design) is wonderful. However, the interior decor is representative of the lowest price motel wannabe, contractor grade cheap crap! Ick! Yuk! Vomit! What is WRONG with you people?
Offer a multihull that is an excellently designed catamaran but with the fantastic Hylas 49 masterpiece interior, so that an owner could sail a wondrously comfortable boat while experiencing the magnificent nautical decor of a real blue water yacht. Not happening here.
It is a production Cat. It will not have the high end wood that you can get on a boutique builder.