@Rawrist Any hints that Visenya was lesbian, and, perhaps, it wasn't that Aegon wasn't more interested in Rhaenys as much as Visenya just wasn't really interested in him? Maybe, Aegon just spent one and ten nights with her to keep up appearances, and Maegar really may be Aegon's only true son for irony, or some bullshit like that. Was just thinking this. I only started reading F&B Vol: 1 a few hours ago.
Thats literally my favorite part about her. No matter how fierce of a warrior she was she wasnt heartless. That moment with the Ronnel is so wholesome and amazing. Imagine being that boy?? Who wouldnt want to ride a dragon
@@yellowsuncat16 I'm sorry evil nature has made women have much less physical potential than men. How dare nature take its course. Wake up to reality this is a fantasy novel and it is more realistic than you people. You're the one discriminating against your own gender bashing your own gender roles as unimportant. Being a mother is more important than being masculine but your first world feminist ass can't find anything better to do with your life.
@Mango Roxx I think I'm worthy. Most men indeed are incompetent nowadays but I don't quite understand what you mean. Bow to whom ? serve whom ? What sky ?
@@princesurein7275 Nobody’s saying that women should try to be more masculine or that motherhood is bad, we’re saying that women are capable of fulfilling any role they want. A woman can be a warrior and a man can be a nurturer and visa versa, these traits are not limited to one sex. And one more thing: you’re right, nature did plan things one way. But, people have constantly found ways to do things that nature didn’t intend. Why can’t gender roles be one of them?
Aenys was weak asf… asf he sat on the throne every major house was thinking to leave the seven kingdom and 3 of em crowned their own king. If it wasnt for Margor he wouldve lost the seven kingdoms. And not to mention the way he was dealing with the faith.. dissaster of a king.
I smell her, too bad her lineage didn't go ahead, I hate the lineage of Rhaenys most can't handle power, not that the maegor knew kkkkk, but anyway she was stubborn, and had no desire,but for power and yes she also knew how to be compassionate, of course through fear
Maegor and Aenys were two polar opposites but Jaehaerys the Conciliator learned from the mistakes of both these kings, making him the best ruler from the Targaryen dynasty.
Rhaenys's son was born after 7 years of marriage, that's also quite a long time without an heir, given the fact that they probably used no contraceptives and Aegon slept with Rhaenys quite often and would probably want to have an heir as quickly as possible. I always wondered whether Martin wanted to imply that the trio had some fertility issues due to the incest. Well, we probably will never know. Great work as always!
Im not sure the incest effects Valyrians negatively like normal humans. The insanity seems like just a family thing as Maegor was only slightly inbred and Rhaegel and Aerion werent inbred at all.
@@Liam-sl3ic Well for the most part, Targaryens never strayed from family fucking. Even if they weren't straight up born from brother and sister, they often married bastards or houses that were known to have to targaryen blood somewhere. There were very few marriages without incest and even so there was never a generation where therr wasn't incest going on somewhere. Also the fertility issues were pretty apparent, like Maegor the cruel having 6 wives without even one heir and more recently with Aerys the Mad King, the age gap between Rheagar and Viserys. The madness I can agree being circumstantial more than genes, because royalty and power does that to anyone especially considering how up their own ass the Targaryens were.
@@Ouchthathurt843 that's not strange for our medieval times or Westeros. Tywin married his first cousin for instance. However valyrians practiced brother-sister marriage in the freehold, it's a valyrian custom not soley targaryen.
@@fenixchief7 the main difference is the amount of insest in the bloodline, Tywin had some insest from a first cousin marriage but the line didn't have much to begin with. Even the targaryen line when married to valereon family members was still having a recent history of insest. Think of a roll of the dice the more times you roll the more times you will receive the same number.
aegon was lucky to have visenya on his side. shes a great warrior and a wise woman. if she didnt kill aenys. aenys will fail to control the kingslanding from high septons and all the rebel from all over the kingdom.sometimes,you really need to get rid of the weak to keep the strong ones.well even if maegor didnt have succesor. aenys sons and daughter survives their fathers weakness.thanks to visenya.
Yes ppl forget that Aenys was a very weak king. He had a kind heart but also made him look like a fool. Maegor saved him from the first rebellion and if it wasnt for Maegor the faith wouldve destroyed house targaryen because of Aenys.
You fail to mention that Maegor the Cruel died without an heir and was Aenys son, the one who took the crown. So it was actually Rhaenys and Aegon's line who became the Kings and Queens of Westeros (Being Dany their descendant), rather than Visenya's Line, who was way more cruel.
@@demisaysstuff It wasnt probably a bastard, they married out of love and is highly probable Aeny's was Aegons son.They spent 9 out of 10 nights together for one he spent with Visenya. They stayed in love till Rhaenys died. After that Aegon even stopped being with Visenya. Aenys also had Targaryan features (those mixed Valyrians generally lost their typical features like it happened to the Baratheons), and some of the family down the line showed to have Aegons personality and genetics, like Rhaegar and Dany (in the books). Same with Jaehaerys I.
Cody the Bug just because she didn’t as you say “sword fight”, that doesn’t make her a warrior? If you are skilled at riding a dragon and dodging crossbow arrows along with the dragon, managing the skill not to fall of that dragon, and slaughter a *MASSIVE* amount of your enemies, I’m pretty damn sure that makes you a warrior. What other queen participated in a full on war risking their life? You don’t have to pick up a sword in order to be a warrior 😂 *Definition: especially in former times) a brave or experienced soldier or fighter.*
Too old to play her during the Conquest but maybe during the faith uprising if they make a show about the doom of valyria all the way to great council at the start of HOTD. IMO, the perfect casting would be Ivanna Sakhno for the conquest and Antje Traue for the faith Uprising
It’s crazy how Robert Baratheon was a 3rd cousin to raegar and descended from the Targaryen line and overthrew his second cousins dynasty. Seems fitting I guess. Too bad he didn’t father any legitimate children and all the children Cersei had were Jamie’s
Cercie hated him and he hated Cercie he was better of marrying lysa if I remember she used to be prettier then catelyn as a teen and catelyn was pretty beautiful
@@kkandsims4612well apperantly cercei did have a crush for him.. but you would also start hate your crush if he/she kept thinking about the dead x 24/7
Series would be better, the movie would be bad because of run time limits and they wouldn't do it justice. Maybe a series of everything else leading up to the conquest, and then a movie as the final.
Amazing video. I’m not a book reader ,but I truly enjoy good content that can give good information and tell the story . Now I know why Arya admires her so much. It’s funny how the Targaryens can have such strong female leaders but still have a problem accepting one as the heir to the throne . Makes no sense to me .
Aegon prob wanted to take a different wife but given how skilled she was/her temper. She would've killed him. Or the fact he lost his beloved sister-wife Rhaenys he didn't want another.
The TV show failed to build & depict the Iron Throne as it was in the books. It should have been high & imposing rather, than looking like the lawn chair the show depicted.
There was Alyssa Targaryen who was just a princess, not a queen but she was a warrior and a dragonrider too like Visenya. Other Targaryen women prefered only dragons over swords.
What about Princess Rhaenys the queen who never was, she was a dragonrider and had black hair and purple eyes her father was the first son of King Jarhaerys the 1th
Visenya Targeryen did so much during Aegon's Conquest. She deserved to be Queen on her own! Such an underrated character. I hope they show her feats in Aegon's Conquest series. Perhaps then people could understand it was not just Aegon but his sisters too.
Would’ve been cool for Maegor to Marry Rhaena. There was another potential marriage that also could’ve saved the seven kingdoms from blood shed when Aegon the second was proposed to Rhaenyra.
Fun fact- here in Chicago there is a little docking area downtown where Queen Elizabeth II came ashore from her royal yacht when visiting the city in the 1950’s. The area is known as Queen’s Landing.
I actually liked Visenya when I first started reading Fire and Blood but once she and Maegor started getting jealous of Aenys I started felling iffy and then I completely disliked her when she brought Maegor back from exile to usurp the throne from Aeny's son Aegon.
There's been a lot of research done on the matter and it's recently came to light that "Dark Sister" wasn't the name of Visenya's sword. It was her pet name for Aegon's member. When it was said that she was skilled and mastered at handling "Dark Sister" the scribes were actually referring to Aegon's middle leg. It is known.....
Visenya is cool and badass and all but I think there is a little too much of an apologist angle going on here. True she did what she thought necessary and was instrumental in forging the Targaryen dynasty but her darker nature and desire for her son’s ascent led to her being a quite likely kinslayer and Maegor became the way he was at least in part due to her influence as a mother. Aenys was a weak ruler but kind- Maegor was taught to be everything Aenys and his mother Rhaenys were not. Look what we got.
I would've picked Visenya; Dragonrider, strong, muscular legs from sword practice, a buxom shape, and probably a dom.. I would at least TRY to snag "Dark Sister" on my way out in the morning....
You can say that Aegon & his sisters conquered 7 kingdoms because you have "North, Riverlands, Westerlands, Reach, Storm Lands, Vale & Iron Islands" . . . I always thought this was strange because if you add Dorne there are really 8 kingdoms . . . You could even argue there are a total of 9 Kingdoms/regions now for the Targaryen's created the Crownlands
Before Aegon landed at the Blackwater, there were officially 7 kingdoms of Westeros. The iron islands and the river lands were being ruled by the same person so they counted as one, the north, the vale, the reach, the westerlands, the stormlands, and Dorne.
@@midnight_rose2337 the more I learn the more I realize how totally screwed they did dorne I mean just there name is better then any others unbowed unbent unbroken and I realize how dumb they did the iron Islands I mean catelyn had way way more reason to hate theon more then jon just based off of what his family did to her’s for years yet she hated jon cuz ned a man whom was def was her second choice as it’s clear Brandon was her everything got some other woman pregnant when it’s common knosloge Brandon would never ever ever have just bedded catelyn yes he would have treated her like his true lady but he would have had just as many children that where not true starks as Robert ned was far more sex worthy to catelyn then Brandon was ever plus if I remember correctly Brandon was kinda a creep liking virgins and shit
If Aegon 6 REALLY wants to be the definitive king, slay Dany, take Drogon as his mount, find Aegon the Conquer's circlet, and dual wield Dragonfyre and Dark Sister.
There is King Richard the second who is like the inspiration for King Joffery. Visenya was a ruthless warrior but had some sense of honour like the woman from vikings show. Cersei Lannister is dishonorable but deep down shes a coward and paranoid selfish woman.
Nah.... Visenya was a badass...and Maegor actually did something good for Targaryens despite being cruel. Later Targaryen kings wouldn't able to control seven faith
@@amyra8159 they both are family of a conqueror. They were something Lannister will never archive, a conqueror and a ruler that does not scheme like scum
Maegor was a great warrior. Ruthless and will be remembered as cruell but he was never a coward. He also saved house targaryen twice. Against the faith he couldve burned em all down with his dragon(later he does it anyways) but he rather suggested a trial by combat. Wich he won against the faiths best warrior. He clearly was a great warrior.
new GOT fan, finished watching all 8 season a couple days ago and ive been witching TH-cam video's to fill in the gaps that I didn't catch while watching the show. one of those gaps is the entity Targaryen dynasty I really would like a prequel show about it. I know we have house of dragons out now but I wish they would have started with aegon's conquest, up to like king jhaery's I wonder why they didn't. that seems what to me what the fans would be most interested in
Both sister were great fighters Visenya was just a more of a warrior of action than both brother and younger sister. They all had to be great at battle. They also don't speak much of the other Vilarions that servived with them.
In the books it’s not even a regular trait for Dany. It’s the side effect of using blood magic to birth her dragons and never again expresses before or after that event
I don't think Aenys or Maegor were Aegons children. Rhaenys was undoubtedly promiscuous, and Visenya got pregnant around the time her relationship with Aegon was strained and the realm was creating rumors about her being barren. Aegon was the first and last King of House Targaryen.
Unlikely we see that targeryan features and genetics are weak so unless they had valeryan lovers it’s doubtful their children were bastards Look at Robert and Jon both have Targaryen blood but have other features from the other parents also wasn’t aegon a greenseer due to the fact he had a prophecy about the prince that was promised seems kinda stupid being able to see the past and future and still be deceived
@@hashiramacells9845 nah the valyrian phenotype is strong. Alyssa velaryon had a first men mother but looked valyrian. Aemma Arryn looked valyrian, despite being less than 50% if valyrian descent. The Children of Alicent Hightower and Viserys were less than 50% valyrian descent but looked valyrian. Due to many intermarriages with non valyrian houses (Martell, Dayne, Blackwood) Dany, Viserys and Rhaegar were less than 10% of Valyrian descent but all had valyrian features.
Technically he did conquer seven kingdoms he just didn’t face seven kings, and in the middle of it he created an eighth kingdom and then later he took over the ninth kingdom drone so technically whoever sits in the iron throne rules over nine kingdoms
No, He conquered 6 but since the Riverlands were ruled by Ironborn no more after Aegon defeated Harren the Black, he made the Riverlands its own kingdom again so he ruled 7 (North, Vale, Riverlands, Westerlands, Iron Islands, Reach, Stormlands). Dorne is the 8th, there is no 9th kingdom. Also Aegon I never brought Dorne into the realm officially. That was done by King Daeron II The Good when he married a Martell princess of Dorne.
Aegon wanted to only marry his younger sister who he truly lived but was required by tradition to marry the eldest. So in defiance he decided to marry both to fulfill both his obligations and personal desires. He spent more time with Rhaeneys than Visenya. Personally I would prefer Visenya, strong women are such a turn on for me.
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@Rawrist Any hints that Visenya was lesbian, and, perhaps, it wasn't that Aegon wasn't more interested in Rhaenys as much as Visenya just wasn't really interested in him? Maybe, Aegon just spent one and ten nights with her to keep up appearances, and Maegar really may be Aegon's only true son for irony, or some bullshit like that. Was just thinking this. I only started reading F&B Vol: 1 a few hours ago.
Can you make one about the other Sister?
Sounds like she needs some DragonBreath Slayer
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i love the fact that Visenya actually took Ronnel flying on Vhagar just because he asked. that’s so cool.
Yes! And the image of him sitting on her lap, probably talking and her giving him her time and attention was just adorable
Thats literally my favorite part about her. No matter how fierce of a warrior she was she wasnt heartless. That moment with the Ronnel is so wholesome and amazing. Imagine being that boy?? Who wouldnt want to ride a dragon
@@marcyc1695exactly visenya knew when and where to draw a line instead of just slaughter.
Confident, strong, ambitious, great with kids... sounds like wife material to me!
@@gdhuertas07no seriously!!! That’s waifu right there along with Daenerys
The Targaryens breaking the customs of Women only learning how to be proper and fit for marriage- and training them into battle.
That’s because dragons don’t discriminate. They are more noble than humans. 🐉
I wish if they let Daenerys Targaryen learned how to fight as well
@@yellowsuncat16 I'm sorry evil nature has made women have much less physical potential than men. How dare nature take its course.
Wake up to reality this is a fantasy novel and it is more realistic than you people. You're the one discriminating against your own gender bashing your own gender roles as unimportant. Being a mother is more important than being masculine but your first world feminist ass can't find anything better to do with your life.
@Mango Roxx I think I'm worthy. Most men indeed are incompetent nowadays but I don't quite understand what you mean. Bow to whom ? serve whom ? What sky ?
@@princesurein7275 Nobody’s saying that women should try to be more masculine or that motherhood is bad, we’re saying that women are capable of fulfilling any role they want. A woman can be a warrior and a man can be a nurturer and visa versa, these traits are not limited to one sex.
And one more thing: you’re right, nature did plan things one way. But, people have constantly found ways to do things that nature didn’t intend. Why can’t gender roles be one of them?
She did so much for her house. Without her, aegon would be dead and his kings guard wouldn't be so great. Respect 💪
Sure, but she poisoned Aenys and usurped the throne for what is very much dragon Hitler (Maegor)
@@hyperxml the visenya paradox. Building her house and destroying it too lmao
Tywin kinda does it too I think lol
Aenys was weak asf… asf he sat on the throne every major house was thinking to leave the seven kingdom and 3 of em crowned their own king. If it wasnt for Margor he wouldve lost the seven kingdoms. And not to mention the way he was dealing with the faith.. dissaster of a king.
Visenya didn't care about love she cared about being a conqueror and a queen .all respect for that
She did love one person. Maegor. He was mummy's little boy.
I smell her, too bad her lineage didn't go ahead, I hate the lineage of Rhaenys most can't handle power, not that the maegor knew kkkkk, but anyway she was stubborn, and had no desire,but for power and yes she also knew how to be compassionate, of course through fear
I think she also loved Aegon, but in a more private/sisterly way.
@@supersuit5790 Yaa, Maegor is always described as very devoted son to her, he never went against her wishes, and Visenya always had his back.
So did Cersei.
Maegor and Aenys were two polar opposites but Jaehaerys the Conciliator learned from the mistakes of both these kings, making him the best ruler from the Targaryen dynasty.
Honorable mentions:
Aegon the Conquer, Viserys II, and Daeron the Good.
Aegon V is quite decent too
@@lukethomasdillon3762 let's add Jaehareys II as well. Short reign, but a fair King.
daeron ii has a case too
@@maelguiraud3568 agreed
I swear no matter how much dirt someone can find on the Targaryens you have to admit, they are bad ass
Rhaenys's son was born after 7 years of marriage, that's also quite a long time without an heir, given the fact that they probably used no contraceptives and Aegon slept with Rhaenys quite often and would probably want to have an heir as quickly as possible. I always wondered whether Martin wanted to imply that the trio had some fertility issues due to the incest. Well, we probably will never know. Great work as always!
Doesn't say whether either sister had pregnancies prior to that, they could have and had them end in miscarriages or stillbirths
Im not sure the incest effects Valyrians negatively like normal humans. The insanity seems like just a family thing as Maegor was only slightly inbred and Rhaegel and Aerion werent inbred at all.
@@Liam-sl3ic Well for the most part, Targaryens never strayed from family fucking. Even if they weren't straight up born from brother and sister, they often married bastards or houses that were known to have to targaryen blood somewhere. There were very few marriages without incest and even so there was never a generation where therr wasn't incest going on somewhere. Also the fertility issues were pretty apparent, like Maegor the cruel having 6 wives without even one heir and more recently with Aerys the Mad King, the age gap between Rheagar and Viserys. The madness I can agree being circumstantial more than genes, because royalty and power does that to anyone especially considering how up their own ass the Targaryens were.
@@Ouchthathurt843 that's not strange for our medieval times or Westeros. Tywin married his first cousin for instance. However valyrians practiced brother-sister marriage in the freehold, it's a valyrian custom not soley targaryen.
@@fenixchief7 the main difference is the amount of insest in the bloodline, Tywin had some insest from a first cousin marriage but the line didn't have much to begin with. Even the targaryen line when married to valereon family members was still having a recent history of insest. Think of a roll of the dice the more times you roll the more times you will receive the same number.
aegon was lucky to have visenya on his side. shes a great warrior and a wise woman. if she didnt kill aenys. aenys will fail to control the kingslanding from high septons and all the rebel from all over the kingdom.sometimes,you really need to get rid of the weak to keep the strong ones.well even if maegor didnt have succesor. aenys sons and daughter survives their fathers weakness.thanks to visenya.
Yes ppl forget that Aenys was a very weak king. He had a kind heart but also made him look like a fool. Maegor saved him from the first rebellion and if it wasnt for Maegor the faith wouldve destroyed house targaryen because of Aenys.
"She had little pity for fuck ups" - Visenya in a nutshell.
It’s sad that Aegon was so mean to her and she had his back so much. I guess people always want what they can’t have
How aegon was mean to her exactly?
for me the moral of the story was to not marry a damn sibling.
@@jeanrose1627 near the end of the video. neglectfulness.
@@rai4119 girl what moral of the story...
She slashed his face as an object lesson about needing The Kingsguard
He had every right to be pissed
I love the theory that Aegon was infertile and that Aenes was a bastard and Maegar was conceived through magic
Same
Same
In my head this is Cannon
I never thought of that 😮. Aenes is a funny name 😂
seems a bit off character for both of them since they both were extremely loyal to their bloodline and family
If Visenyas line Sat the Throne House Targaryen would still have Dragons
Idk about that 😂
The dance probably never happens so maybe
Not really tho, Visenya's line already ends with Maegor which definitely sat the throne and we know what happened next.
You fail to mention that Maegor the Cruel died without an heir and was Aenys son, the one who took the crown. So it was actually Rhaenys and Aegon's line who became the Kings and Queens of Westeros (Being Dany their descendant), rather than Visenya's Line, who was way more cruel.
That's assuming Aenys wasn't a bastard
@@demisaysstuff It wasnt probably a bastard, they married out of love and is highly probable Aeny's was Aegons son.They spent 9 out of 10 nights together for one he spent with Visenya. They stayed in love till Rhaenys died. After that Aegon even stopped being with Visenya.
Aenys also had Targaryan features (those mixed Valyrians generally lost their typical features like it happened to the Baratheons), and some of the family down the line showed to have Aegons personality and genetics, like Rhaegar and Dany (in the books). Same with Jaehaerys I.
Maeghor was Virsenya's son & Aenys was his brother..
@@toddharris4774 Half brother and cousin
@@JohnnyDominion, how can you be half, when everyone is related?
I have noticed many similarities between visenya and Daenerys
Yes me to but I've always been team Daenarys from the beginning an Jon 🐲🔥🛡🗡
Dany won't sword fight tho
Cody the Bug she sure as hell picked up a sword and fought off the dead alongside with Jorah.🤷🏽♀️
@@iconikaa8971 she's no warrior tho
Cody the Bug just because she didn’t as you say “sword fight”, that doesn’t make her a warrior? If you are skilled at riding a dragon and dodging crossbow arrows along with the dragon, managing the skill not to fall of that dragon, and slaughter a *MASSIVE* amount of your enemies, I’m pretty damn sure that makes you a warrior. What other queen participated in a full on war risking their life? You don’t have to pick up a sword in order to be a warrior 😂 *Definition: especially in former times) a brave or experienced soldier or fighter.*
Visenya Targaryen eldest targaryen child Aegon the Conqueror being the middle and Rhaenys being the youngest.
First born last to die.
If that's true I'll live to see my youngest brother die
I really want to see visenya in a prequel
L Rose Is..is that bratz doll julien?
You dont put Visenya in the corner lmao! Oh my god i love that line.
Visenya's my fave though. I don't really like Rhaenys somehow :v
I love the fact that every time I open youtube there is a new Rawrist video!
VISENYA ..MY BADASS GIRL..BENT THE HEAD TARGARYEN HATERS
If we see Visenya on screen, I definitely see Katheryn Winnick playing the role. She was great as Lagertha in Vikings.
I agree she would be perfect
Too old to play her during the Conquest but maybe during the faith uprising if they make a show about the doom of valyria all the way to great council at the start of HOTD. IMO, the perfect casting would be Ivanna Sakhno for the conquest and Antje Traue for the faith Uprising
Visenya Targareyn is the Lagertha from viking show.
I really, really, really want the actress who played her to play Visenya. It'll never happen though. :(
@@RawristMany fans want it, but it does comes with problems, there are still many actress that can play as Visenya?
Very true!
She's not a white walker what are you talking about
Yeah winnick really match the charisma of visenya
No one puts visenya in the corner! Love that line ! Only raw wrist can come up with lines like this
I feel really bad for Visenya.
Which part!? Women like her can never be loved. She deserved to die horribly.
Madalin Grama If Maegor did not do what he did than House Targaryen would just be a one page note in history books
Mee too! Aside from the fact that her story was told by someone who did not like her very much, she did not have much love from the beginning...
Why?She was pain in the butt.
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It’s crazy how Robert Baratheon was a 3rd cousin to raegar and descended from the Targaryen line and overthrew his second cousins dynasty. Seems fitting I guess. Too bad he didn’t father any legitimate children and all the children Cersei had were Jamie’s
Well atleast we have gendry
Cercie hated him and he hated Cercie he was better of marrying lysa if I remember she used to be prettier then catelyn as a teen and catelyn was pretty beautiful
@@kkandsims4612well apperantly cercei did have a crush for him.. but you would also start hate your crush if he/she kept thinking about the dead x 24/7
Tbh I'd love a prequel series or movie set in the time of Aegons conquest.
Me too
Series would be better, the movie would be bad because of run time limits and they wouldn't do it justice. Maybe a series of everything else leading up to the conquest, and then a movie as the final.
I hope you do Rhaenys next.
Yes! That would be good!
Amazing video. I’m not a book reader ,but I truly enjoy good content that can give good information and tell the story . Now I know why Arya admires her so much. It’s funny how the Targaryens can have such strong female leaders but still have a problem accepting one as the heir to the throne . Makes no sense to me .
It's the Lords of the realm who refused to have a ruling queen.
Damn, I never knew Visenya was such a no nonsense badass
one of those pictures is Bjorn Ironside and Lagertha from Vikings
Let me guess: Bjorn is the female and Lagertha is the male!
She was the real king
Aegon prob wanted to take a different wife but given how skilled she was/her temper. She would've killed him. Or the fact he lost his beloved sister-wife Rhaenys he didn't want another.
No he didn’t want a new wife
Never clicked on a video so fast👍🏽
Haha, thank you! And awesome username!
The TV show failed to build & depict the Iron Throne as it was in the books. It should have been high & imposing rather, than looking like the lawn chair the show depicted.
She was amazing! thank you raw wrist ! Keep making these amazing history videos love em!
Visenya Targareyn the only warrior Queen in the Tagraeyn history?
pretty much
There was Alyssa Targaryen who was just a princess, not a queen but she was a warrior and a dragonrider too like Visenya. Other Targaryen women prefered only dragons over swords.
Her sister Rhaenys was a warrior too! They both fought with Aegon in his conquest
With Daenerys.
What about Princess Rhaenys the queen who never was, she was a dragonrider and had black hair and purple eyes her father was the first son of King Jarhaerys the 1th
Yes! Best thing for a rainy day. Thanks so much! You're the best!
Visenya Targaryen - Aegon and Daenerys daughter - The Princess that was Promised - The Queen of the Seven KIngdoms
This comment did not age well....
Visenya Targeryen did so much during Aegon's Conquest. She deserved to be Queen on her own! Such an underrated character.
I hope they show her feats in Aegon's Conquest series. Perhaps then people could understand it was not just Aegon but his sisters too.
Best sister-wife (except maybe Alysanne).
Would’ve been cool for Maegor to Marry Rhaena. There was another potential marriage that also could’ve saved the seven kingdoms from blood shed when Aegon the second was proposed to Rhaenyra.
Another informative and enjoyable post , l cannot enjoy my afternoon tea without the sound of your voice and the value of your words. Top marks.
Visenya was beautiful with Purple Eyes ❤️❤️
Joel Kinnaman should play Aegon Targaryen.
Fun fact- here in Chicago there is a little docking area downtown where Queen Elizabeth II came ashore from her royal yacht when visiting the city in the 1950’s. The area is known as Queen’s Landing.
do a video like this on Rhaenys!!!
Bluemoon not enough info for her unfortunately
Yeah fire and blood volume one 👍 targaryens finding out more about this Dynasty family
So close to the release!!
Rawrist yep 👍 not long now
Mel*of*Winterfell same Mel 😃👍 new thing in this amazing targaryens family
I actually liked Visenya when I first started reading Fire and Blood but once she and Maegor started getting jealous of Aenys I started felling iffy and then I completely disliked her when she brought Maegor back from exile to usurp the throne from Aeny's son Aegon.
There's been a lot of research done on the matter and it's recently came to light that "Dark Sister" wasn't the name of Visenya's sword. It was her pet name for Aegon's member. When it was said that she was skilled and mastered at handling "Dark Sister" the scribes were actually referring to Aegon's middle leg. It is known.....
A whole series aboug AC would be amazing
Alex Papasozomenos HBO just announced it!
Visenya is cool and badass and all but I think there is a little too much of an apologist angle going on here. True she did what she thought necessary and was instrumental in forging the Targaryen dynasty but her darker nature and desire for her son’s ascent led to her being a quite likely kinslayer and Maegor became the way he was at least in part due to her influence as a mother. Aenys was a weak ruler but kind- Maegor was taught to be everything Aenys and his mother Rhaenys were not. Look what we got.
I was playing CK2 and Aegon married Visenya off to a Velaryon
I've never been so confused
Same everytime that happened Velaryon always ended up ruling dragonstone
HBO's "TO DO" list:
1) Limited Series On The Freehold
2) Aegon's Conquest
He had one child by both sisters
I would've picked Visenya; Dragonrider, strong, muscular legs from sword practice, a buxom shape, and probably a dom..
I would at least TRY to snag "Dark Sister" on my way out in the morning....
If HBO doesn't make this in to a tv show.. well.. they deserve some painful shit in their life >.> ..like, hard stool or something.
Amazing video!!!! I love how you add your humor and sarcasm into these videos!!!
So these badass queens did all this! But still couldn’t sit on the iron thrown? 🙄
She have womb which does not qualifies for iron throne
Visenya was about that life at 31:00 😩
You can say that Aegon & his sisters conquered 7 kingdoms because you have "North, Riverlands, Westerlands, Reach, Storm Lands, Vale & Iron Islands" . . . I always thought this was strange because if you add Dorne there are really 8 kingdoms . . . You could even argue there are a total of 9 Kingdoms/regions now for the Targaryen's created the Crownlands
Before Aegon landed at the Blackwater, there were officially 7 kingdoms of Westeros. The iron islands and the river lands were being ruled by the same person so they counted as one, the north, the vale, the reach, the westerlands, the stormlands, and Dorne.
@@midnight_rose2337 the more I learn the more I realize how totally screwed they did dorne I mean just there name is better then any others unbowed unbent unbroken and I realize how dumb they did the iron Islands I mean catelyn had way way more reason to hate theon more then jon just based off of what his family did to her’s for years yet she hated jon cuz ned a man whom was def was her second choice as it’s clear Brandon was her everything got some other woman pregnant when it’s common knosloge Brandon would never ever ever have just bedded catelyn yes he would have treated her like his true lady but he would have had just as many children that where not true starks as Robert ned was far more sex worthy to catelyn then Brandon was ever plus if I remember correctly Brandon was kinda a creep liking virgins and shit
If Aegon 6 REALLY wants to be the definitive king, slay Dany, take Drogon as his mount, find Aegon the Conquer's circlet, and dual wield Dragonfyre and Dark Sister.
36:51 biggest mistake of the whole dynasty. Had they destroyed the sept and old town there would not have been a dance of dragons.
Visenya Taragreyn and her psychopath son is kinda similar like Cersei lannister and King Joffery?
But Visenya was actually smart.
There is King Richard the second who is like the inspiration for King Joffery. Visenya was a ruthless warrior but had some sense of honour like the woman from vikings show. Cersei Lannister is dishonorable but deep down shes a coward and paranoid selfish woman.
Nah.... Visenya was a badass...and Maegor actually did something good for Targaryens despite being cruel. Later Targaryen kings wouldn't able to control seven faith
@@amyra8159 they both are family of a conqueror. They were something Lannister will never archive, a conqueror and a ruler that does not scheme like scum
Maegor was a great warrior. Ruthless and will be remembered as cruell but he was never a coward. He also saved house targaryen twice.
Against the faith he couldve burned em all down with his dragon(later he does it anyways) but he rather suggested a trial by combat. Wich he won against the faiths best warrior. He clearly was a great warrior.
new GOT fan, finished watching all 8 season a couple days ago and ive been witching TH-cam video's to fill in the gaps that I didn't catch while watching the show. one of those gaps is the entity Targaryen dynasty I really would like a prequel show about it. I know we have house of dragons out now but I wish they would have started with aegon's conquest, up to like king jhaery's I wonder why they didn't. that seems what to me what the fans would be most interested in
This is very detailed
Boom! Downloaded and will listen on my commute ~ thanks rawr
I love how they using Vikings characters Lagertha and Bjorn
Visenya is a badass
Both sister were great fighters Visenya was just a more of a warrior of action than both brother and younger sister. They all had to be great at battle. They also don't speak much of the other Vilarions that servived with them.
Visenya and Aegon were great warriors. Not Rhaenys.
I like how she conquered the vale lol that was nice
Would you make a video about Rhaenys ?
Very nice, thanks. Wish they would make a prequel series to GOT with all the stories we have heard about.
Love these long videos with over 30 mins. Keep up the good work.
I never saw that Dark Sister was made specifically for her.......
I love your videos! New subscriber! Keep it up with what I like to call the Martinverse!
Will there be a series about the book Fire an Blood
Loling at the image of Lagertha and Bjorn ironside from "Vikings" in place of Visenya and Maegor
So wait...Dany was the only one who was fire resistant?
In the books it’s not even a regular trait for Dany. It’s the side effect of using blood magic to birth her dragons and never again expresses before or after that event
Sarah Tonin I see thank you very much!
@@redshadow4146 She's resistant to heat and regular fire but not dragonfire.
She was the true ruler and conquer of the kingdoms.
HBO is done with Grrm and ASOIF prequels or sequels
They literally got approved for four spin offs but okay.
1K with no videos no my dude hbo executives are not on board
They are already filming a prequel in Ireland 🦌🇺🇲
How's this comment holding up?
visenya was mentioned in the show, so now im here
I hope this becomes the prequel
The animations and art is amazing! Do you do it yourself or find extracts?
I don't think Aenys or Maegor were Aegons children. Rhaenys was undoubtedly promiscuous, and Visenya got pregnant around the time her relationship with Aegon was strained and the realm was creating rumors about her being barren. Aegon was the first and last King of House Targaryen.
Lol it takes time to conceive. Visenya s line carried on. Rhaenys maybe not
@@ottopotatum5775 I think he was cucked by both his sisters.
Unlikely we see that targeryan features and genetics are weak so unless they had valeryan lovers it’s doubtful their children were bastards
Look at Robert and Jon both have Targaryen blood but have other features from the other parents also wasn’t aegon a greenseer due to the fact he had a prophecy about the prince that was promised seems kinda stupid being able to see the past and future and still be deceived
The seed is strong eh
@@hashiramacells9845 nah the valyrian phenotype is strong. Alyssa velaryon had a first men mother but looked valyrian. Aemma Arryn looked valyrian, despite being less than 50% if valyrian descent. The Children of Alicent Hightower and Viserys were less than 50% valyrian descent but looked valyrian. Due to many intermarriages with non valyrian houses (Martell, Dayne, Blackwood) Dany, Viserys and Rhaegar were less than 10% of Valyrian descent but all had valyrian features.
You have an amazing Chanel you deserve so much more praise. Thank you for such a good analysis.
So magor had black fire and dark sister! Lucky man!
When visenya govern dragonstone.
Technically he did conquer seven kingdoms he just didn’t face seven kings, and in the middle of it he created an eighth kingdom and then later he took over the ninth kingdom drone so technically whoever sits in the iron throne rules over nine kingdoms
No, He conquered 6 but since the Riverlands were ruled by Ironborn no more after Aegon defeated Harren the Black, he made the Riverlands its own kingdom again so he ruled 7 (North, Vale, Riverlands, Westerlands, Iron Islands, Reach, Stormlands). Dorne is the 8th, there is no 9th kingdom.
Also Aegon I never brought Dorne into the realm officially. That was done by King Daeron II The Good when he married a Martell princess of Dorne.
I try sooo hard to like visenya but i cant idk How... I Just really love Rhaenys..shes my fave
Hahaha i didn't know Lagertha and Bjorn were Targaryans.
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Why didn't Visenya divorce Aegon when he clearly had no love for her?
It was their duty. Aegon loves Rhaenys, but it was his and Visenya’s duty to marry each other
There was no divorce.
Back in those days it wasn't about love visenya didn't care about love she cared about being a conqueror
Divorce didn’t exist in their world. Plus they married out of duty, not love
visenya loves power and duty
I really enjoy this video. Thank you!
Amazing breakdown I love GOT Lore and History
This family reminds me of something... Historical
Love all the detail!
Aegon the conqueror is the real hero of ASOIAF. Both Visenya and Rhaenys are illustrated to be hot af. I would have married both of them too.
Aegon wanted to only marry his younger sister who he truly lived but was required by tradition to marry the eldest. So in defiance he decided to marry both to fulfill both his obligations and personal desires. He spent more time with Rhaeneys than Visenya. Personally I would prefer Visenya, strong women are such a turn on for me.
Without visenya aegon would die
How the hell I never came across this channel smh I’m subscribed now lol 🔥
If I have a daughter I will name her Visenya
Valeria the Alabama of Westeros now go tell uncle daddy rawr has a new video out go on now
Valaria isn't in Westeros.... it's it's own seperate country like Essos