You want to see another something cool? Look up the U Tube video on Beit Lehi. It means House of Lehi. It is about a Prophet Lehi that lived 600 to 650 BC 23 miles south of Jerusalem, which in the writings in the city say at that time it was considered part of the greater city Jerusalem, who just disappeared about 600 BC. Not only is this evidence of Lehi of the Book of Mormon, but it also shows Nephi was correct at recording that Jesus would be born at the land of Jerusalem, because if the Lehi was considered part of the greater Jerusalem at 23 miles away from today Jerusalem, Bethlehem would also be considered part of the greater Jerusalem at only 11. Miles away of todays Jerusalem.
It’s also more apparent when you see the word “at” rather than “in” Jerusalem. Just a correction, the prophesy of Christ being born at Jerusalem is Alma, not Nephi. Something else that’s interesting, the New Testament refers to the region as Judæa. That name originated apparently around 6 ad and is actually the Greek and Roman adaptation of the Hebrew name Judah. It would have been odd for the name Judaea to have used by Alma, instead of saying Jerusalem, the LAND of our forefathers.
I am fron headingley Leeds, Yorkshire England. When speaking of my home I always say Leeds’. If I were telling that to someone in the states I would say, Leeds in England as it is unlikely they would know headingly.
Thank you so very much! Just love the information and testimony you have shared with us over many wonderful, amazing podcasts!Heavenly Father has blessed you with a very special talent to share with us in these Latter Day’s 💞🥰
Another great video, Jasmine!! SUPER COOL! Of course, we should not base our testimony on physical evidence of scriptural stories, but I LOVE it!! “Rational argument does not create belief, but it maintains a climate in which belief may flourish.” -Austin Farrer
WOW! So so cool. Thanks.so much for your hard work. You are appreciated so much! I love your positivity and for tackling things that could be tough. Thanks!
Interesting that grumpy people are always hovering to discount anything that promotes a spark of faith. I'm sure that these same people would be the first to disbelieve the ancient apostles and church members who said we saw Christ resurrected, but without seeing themselves refused to believe. It is true that a mask with the name Ishmael is just an interest, but it's also interesting that very plausible locations for the valley of Laman, Shazer, camp of the fabricated bow, Nahom, and bountiful have all been located the the Arabian peninsula. Taken together they can serve as a builder of faith. Anything these days that serves to build faith in Jesus Christ is a good thing and the book of Mormon testified of the divinity of Christ and helps to build faith. So why the Grinchy naysayers?
@@taylorsessions4143 yes. That’s why there are ambassadors, envoys, aides, spys, attaches, visitors, professors etc,etc,etc, who all report back, and then congress men, and presidents show up. There is nothing like being there and “pressing the flesh “ to get the lay of the land except living there. You haven’t done any of it but watch fake news.
The Book of Mormon is the word of God. That truth is verified by God Himself through prayer. If you honestly seek truth, you go to the source of truth, which is God, not your own understanding(or that of any other mortal). Physical evidences are very fun and enlightening, but they don't actually build faith. I knew the BoM was true before any of these evidences. I knew, because the Holy Spirit confirmed the truth of it in my heart. I love the factual evidences, but they alone will not build faith.
@@Ranger_48 well said! Still, hearing about these evidences makes me smile. I treasure the relationship I have with my Father in heaven. It is truly miraculous that he is listening to my prayers and answering me on a personal basis. I still remember asking if the book of Mormon was a true book, containing his word. Its hard to describe the feeling I received through the holy Ghost, but it was peace and joy and clarity and so much more all at once. It was easy for me to determine that this was coming from an outside source that was bigger than me. No amount of physical evidence can compare to this personal witness.
This is remarkable. The finding of a place named Nahom is stunning in itself, but I’ve often thought how amazing it would be to find proof of Ismael’s burial place there. Evidence is mounting and ought to be already strong enough to make doubters wonder. A 19th century farm boy in upstate NY could not have made this stuff up.
@@Flintlock1776 Whose work could he have pawned off as his own? Much of the evidence being found now was not even known back then. Perhaps it's more likely that the actual authors in the Book of Mormon (i.e., the ancient prophets) kept their records and through revelation Joseph Smith received and was commanded by the Lord to translate them today into the Book of Mormon. But you don't have to take my word, or anyone else's--scholarly or otherwise--to know that the Book of Mormon is true. You just have to ask God with a sincere heart if it's true or not.
I do not need any archeological find to “prove” the Book of Mormon! My Prayers n Studies of 46+years have confirmed it in my heart n a SURITY of the Word of GOD ! N HIS SON JESUS CHRIST!! As a Convert n member of 4 other Churches,my Wife n I Prayed n Fasted!! Got the answers we were l👀king n Praying 🙏🏼 for !! AMEN !!
@@richarner3856 ... Literally Lehi's ENTIRE Journey from Jerusalem to the Sea HAS been proven already. Near EVERY point the Book of Mormon mentions of Lehi's journey has been shown to exist along the entire route. The likelihood Joseph Smith "made that up", most of the information not even known in Joseph's day is entirely impossible. I recommend start reading the book "Lehi in the Wilderness - 81 Evidences...." and see for yourself, to start your journey of actual knowledge instead of judgment in ignorance and pride.
No evidence for that. Even if they got almost one thing right, still no evidence that it is of God. Also, remember that the god of the Book of Mormon was a man and is an exalted man, just one of an infinite number of gods. Kind of the opposite of the God of the Holy Bible.
@@ts-900So which version of the Bible do you think is correct? The church of Jesus Christ is not based on the Bible, it is based on what the Bible is based on. Revelation through prophets. Old Testament prophets, new Testament prophets and modern day prophets.
I love these kinds of video, not so much to prove to my friends the Book of Mormon is true but seeing the possibly actual artifacts and places mean something to me. It is like visiting the Sacred Grove or visiting the Holy Land. I hope one day we can find and tell, "oh, this is where Captain Moroni has faught", "oh, this is waters of Mormon where Alma baptized the people".
That’s pretty special, Jasmin, as Ishmael represented the Ephraim side of Lehi’s caravan as we know , conversely, Lehi was part of Manasseh (Alma 10.2,3) lineage to comprise the fruitful bough by a well whose branches would flow over the waters of the well (Gen 49.22) Amazing to even find a stone like that to possibly mark the area where Ishmael was laid to rest near Nahom.
I like how she says I’m not saying for sure, but all evidence points to!!! Lol It is hard to watch these videos and not get excited. Many of us are fine with our testimony & knowledge we have of the book of Mormon, but the extra stuff it’s pretty cool, exciting and fun!
I agree. Science is definitely a gift from God. It would be so exciting to hear a video of all the dna science that stands behind the Book of Mormon. I Cant wait!!!
Proof enough for me. I always knew that in these last days, more and more proof that the book of Mormon will be revealed. I have zero doubt it is, even before this and beit lehi. ❤
This is no proof though 😭 Ishmael was an incredibly common name back then and finding this stone there proves nothing, since multiple others have been found in the area.
@@president234 Not true! Since vowels aren't used, Nahom is very plausible since any vowels could be used. This has been confirmed by multiple non-LDS scholars. The only ones refusing to admit that Nahom fits perfectly as a translation of NHM are anti-mormon cynics who go to every length to try to discredit the many evidences being discovered that show plausibility of Book of Mormon claims.
@@president234 Multiple vowels exist with the letters NHM in the area in verbal languages over the centuries. No big deal here, except in the antichrist literature. In that delusion, nothing is evidence for the Church of Jesus Christ. So sad to see such intellectually dishonest people.
If Lehi and his family had just recently left Jerusalem, and they spoke Hebrew, then why would they carve the "South Arabian" form of the name Ishmael on the gravestone? Why would they not carve it in the Hebrew language which they spoke?
It is doubtful Lehi packed stone-cutting tools. The local tribesmen would have probably not only quarried the stone but also be the ones hired/bartered to carve the name on it. It was customary to do this in the native tongue and dialect. Lehi would have been familiar with this and respect it. Nothing unusual here.
@@vendingdudes - you are making a ton of assumptions here. 1 - Lehi would have been familiar with it. 2 - Lehi didn't pack any stone cutting tools. 3 - Local Tribesman did it 4 - it was customary to do this in the native tongue and dialect.
@@BenMcrea61 -it says they carved the gold plates in reformed egyptian, but they lived in Jerusalem and would have spoken Hebrew. And also, if they wrote in Egyptian, why not write Ishmaels name in Egyptian on the gravestone. It says it was written in South Arabian....
The Nahom argument is one of the ways that I determine if I'm talking to an honest person or not. NHM is for the Nihm tribe that lived in the area. Nahom has never been found on a map, but Nehem has. The area is on the opposite side of an impassable mountain range (the Nehem Range), and the book of mormon text states that they stayed within the border of the Red Sea. Nahum is found in the bible and means mourning. There's a real possibility that Joseph dictated the word Nahom to play off the word for a place of mourning.
Ishmael is a biblical name and also an Islamic name. It doesn’t specifically support Mormon scripture the way the discovery can’t specifically support Jewish and Muslim claims. It was a common name expected to be in that area and falls in the expected boundary regardless of Mormon scripture
Historically, the Church leaders teach the gospel and allow the scholars and researchers to do what they do. I have never nor do I expect to hear them promote these things from the pulpit. Personally, I think that’s wise and appropriate.
@@mikewood3557 The Church has always been big on history. Especially pioneer history. It makes sense that if these claims could be validated, they would be all over it. Maybe not from the pulpit, but definitely in the church history department.
in Islam Ismael or Ishmael was burried in Hijr Ismael near the Kaaba in Mekka . even Jewish Rabbis agreed that Mecca is the land of Ishmael like Ibn Izra the Great Rabbi who said the well God made for Hagar in Torah was the well of Zamzam near the Kaaba
Yes, this is great evidence for the Book of Mormon. However, the most important evidence is always the evidence of the heart that comes through prayer, living the gospel taught, and then keeping it through allowing the gospel to support you through the trials and tribulations of life. Baptism by immersion signifies the depth of one's conversion in covenants also.
You can bet when they find any serious credible archeology pointing toward The Book of Mormon,the Church will spare no expense,putting it on every media platform known to mankind.
You would lose that bet. I am really interested in evidences that support the Book of Mormon and the restoration of the gospel. But the official church doesn’t try to “prove” its position. Critics seem to seek smoking gun proof, or the church must be false. Read the tale of the rich man and Lazarus. Proof doesn’t convert.
What I found most remarkable was you are presenting this as evidence. We need to present strong evidence of our truths, equal to the strong evidence critics of The Church present!
Literally read "Historicity of the Book of Mormon" on Wikipedia. The founder of the NWAF (an LDS Church-sponsored venure into finding archeological evidence of the Book of Mormon) gave up after more than a decade of finding evidence that instead disproved it.@@mikeboyd3225
@@mikeboyd3225 I literally just explained why, I don't know if my other reply is gone. Anyways read the Wikipedia article on the historical integrity of the Book of Mormon. It literally has everything you need.
I knew that Nahom was a real location which by itself is pretty amazing for Joseph Smith to use the real name of a region that was not even known at the time from 600 bc. To add that there is evidence of an Ismael buried in the same area around the same time. That is validating to my testimony. At the same time, it does not form my testimony. I know by the power of the Holy Ghost that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by the power of God. Because I know this, I also know that Jesus is the Christ and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is His kingdom set up upon the earth in preparation for His second coming. Historical records are just going to catch up.
Very Cool! If Joseph Smith was a con man, which he wasn't, i would love to have his help in the lottery because he would be the greatest guesser in the world.
Indeed. That is the point of some of the recent videos. While we cannot say whether this stone is from the Ishmael in question, the fact that there are dozens of descriptions along this journey which match up with the geography, greatly reduce the probability of someone having just made it up.
There are many burial stones in this region with the same name. It is quite a common name. It is also written in Arabic and not Hebrew, and the burial stones have been moved and tampered with.
The name of Ishmael is interesting but certainly inconclusive. But the place called Nahom perfectly consistent with the story in the Book of Mormon on is far more compelling. No, it doesn’t “prove” if but it is extremely supportive. Yet again, the Book of Mormon is found to be consistent with evidences, and yet again, there is no way Joseph, or even the scholars of the day, could have known to include something like this.
@@mikewood3557 that is just silly. There are maps from the 1700s and 1800s with the name Nahom, Nahum, in the Arabian peninsula. You've been lied to by unscrupulous apologists. Do yourself a favor and really research the topic before you spread the lies you've been fed. Don't just listen to church sources. Do legitimate research.
I have a friend who works for Prince Mohammed bin Salman but the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is not friendly with Yemen, Yemen was at one time part of Saudi Arabia
Wait. South Arabian word for Ishmael. Are you suggesting Lehi's group were writing Southern Arabian on his grave marker? 🤔 I find that hard to believe given that the BoM claims "reformed Hebrew" and "reformed Egyptian", which has to have been based on the writing systems Lehi et al brought with them. There is no suggestion of any form of Arabian among them.
The question is how the Ishmael family traveled from that end in Saudi Arabia (Yemen) with Lehi to the Americas???? Did they go south to the Indian Ocean, then headed west to the Atlantic Ocean and finally reached the Americas, or did they travel north the Red Sea and west the Mediterranean Sea to cross the Atlantic Sea and reach the Americas ??? 🤔🤔 This is a little perplexing 😕
They couldn’t have sailed through the Red Sea because the Suez canal didn’t exist at that time. They had to either go east across the Pacific or south and then west around Africa and then across the Pacific. Either would have been a spectacular feat.
Yes, that’s true. Ishmael is quite possibly coincidental. But the place, Nahom, being particularly named in the Book of Mormon and being perfectly placed to fit the narrative is compelling.
Just a heads up. 1. Nihim was a known reigon, labled on actual maps before Joseph was born 2. Ishmael is an actual name that was used a lot for a long time
اسماعيل جدي مدفون في الحجر العلا اليوم بحسب التقليد المعروف لقبائلنا والاسلام ولكن النقش اليمني يدل على شعبية اسماعيل وسليمان وسبأ في تلك الفتره نفسها ٦٠٠ قبل الميلاد
I find this very interesting and I wonder which sea route they took to land in America then... I always assumed they had traveled through the North of Africa and crossed the Atlantic Ocean...
Assuming they left in the fall, so the could make it to America and plant seeds in the spring, the wind and water current patterns would have sent them south around the bottom tip of Africa and shoot them straight to Florida. There have been a few Phoenicia Ship Expeditions, using technology of ship building from 600 B.C., to try to leave Jerusalem and return by circling Africa. They had to override the natural course to head back across the Atlantic to make it back to Jerusalem. This was done fall 2009. I think there has been a second one more recently as well.
“The inscribed y s1mʿʾl is exactly how the Hebrew name yšmʿʾl (ישמעאל) - typically rendered as “Ishmael” in English - would be spelled in Epigraphic South Arabian.” This is from the interpreter foundation . Apparently they would have been carved the same in both languages.
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Proof that the Book of Mormon is true, and Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God , and The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is the true church. Thank you to the missionaries all over the world for finding souls like me to know the true church of Jesus Christ
That's very fascinating. I'd be curious to know who found it and why they don't know exactly where they found it. It may have been useful to exume the remains.
I believe it was Neal Rappleye who first brought it to light. I believe the video says the stone was removed from its location so it will be impossible to find the remains. Besides, I wonder if the skeletal remains haven’t fully broken down to its elements anyways after 2600 years even being buried.
Just a couple of questions...Why would they use 'South Arabian' script when they wrote the book using 'Reformed Egyptian'? Shouldn't it be written in the language and script they knew and not a script entirely new to them and used by people they never met? If you remember, the entire trek across the peninsula was done avoiding any people so they couldn't be found out. Also, how common was the name Ishmael at that time?
Ishmael was an incredibly common name in 600 b.c. Of course, there isn't any reformed Egyptian it was contrived after the mound builders' myth. The belief was that their language sounded Jewish, and of course, they wrote like the Egyptians, i.e., Mayans.
Because they are grasping at straws. The same reason Joseph Smith claimed that Charles Anthon said the characters had “Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic”. I wonder how Mormon was familiar with those languages 1000 years after Lehi left Jerusalem.
It's possible they hired someone in the area to make the grave marker for them. Also, they needed to be undetected in the wilderness to not attract thieves and robbers or other unfriendly folk, but they didn't need to do that in a populated area such as Nahom.
@@MemyzelphandI Egyptians used 4 writing systems. Hieroglyphs, Hieratic, Demotic, and Coptic. The Demotic scripts was a very simplified version of Hieroglyphs and was used by traders, merchants, and such. It came into use when Lehi was a child, and Lehi was a merchant. He would have learned this very writing system. It is commonly known as a form of simplified Egyptian. Or in other words, Reformed Egyptian.
You're assuming they never met such people, and didn't know the language. Lehi was a merchant. He likely knew lots of languages, and traveled all over, and had interactions with people from all over. It doesn't seem odd that one would use the words of those you are around. You would want those who remain in a place, to know what a grave marker says. They would be the one's looking after the grave. I think it would be helpful if they understood the grave that was among their own. Don't you think?
Why would it be in script for south Arabia and not in Hebrew? I thought Nephi was writing in reformed Egyptian and Hebrew. That does not fit the artifact. Is this video claiming that this is the burial totem of the actual Ishmael? Seems very implausible given the facts.
“The inscribed y s1mʿʾl is exactly how the Hebrew name yšmʿʾl (ישמעאל) - typically rendered as “Ishmael” in English - would be spelled in Epigraphic South Arabian.” This is from the interpreter foundation . Apparently they would have been carved the same in both languages.
@@evanbailey8294 I think we agree on the fact that the inscription is in epigraphic south Arabic, not Hebrew. So let’s suppose you are trekking with friends across Russia, and you friend John dies. When you place a rock with his name on the grave you are most likely going to write ‘John’ in English not Ivan in Cyrillic. It makes no sense to use a different language than the one the group speaks. Is it surprising to find a gravestone label Ivan in Russia? This discover seems just as remarkable. Using this as an example of BOM evidence is an example of the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
@@nathanpeterson5906 yes however, Ishmael was not a common name in that area at that time. Plus people from Israel and that surrounding region at the time adopted burial traditions from their neighbors. It’s not impossible for them to learn the language along the journey in the penninsula too since they spent a very long time down there.
@@evanbailey8294 I don’t think the text of the BOM supports extensive interactions with people. I believe it stated that they avoided people. My bar for accepting evidence is much higher than something being ‘not impossible.’ I try to look for the most probable explanation. If you didn’t already hold a faith based belief in the truth of the BOM would you find this evidence convincing? Maintaining this as evidence requires confirmation bias.
@@nathanpeterson5906 it says right in the first book that he only writes about spiritual things and the ministry. He wouldn’t write about any small interaction with the locals.
NHM is for the Nihm region where the Nihmite people lived, not Nahom. Hebrew does not use vowels. Ishmael is probably the most common name in that region for that time. It's like Michael or David or Joe in the United States. This is an example of Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
So, how did Joseph Smith come up with a name that just so happened to be a common name of tha era in that region? That's the rub, in case you missed it.
@@jessewhite5232Ishmael from the Bible, the first born male of Abraham is the patriarch of Islam and has been popular there for millennia! Very commonly known if anyone is a student of world religions.
I hear a lot of maybes and speculations in this report. Finding the location of Ishmaels burial place doesn't confirm the writings of Joseph Smith. Some of his prophecies were never fulfilled which makes him a false prophet.
You should consider the integrity of the information you used to reject Brigham as critics don’t comprehend the issues correctly. Whether it’s polygamy, blood atonement, Adam God or something else, the criticisms fall short of sound understanding of scripture, doctrine and the historical record.
The Lds church list the young teenagers that Brigham Married. The Lds church changed its mind and said Brigham’s racism was not revelation but just a principle. I have 20 prophecies that have not and can not come true. Have you read the talk given by Brigham about worshiping Adam? So why not join one of the other Mormon churches? No answers from anyone?
There are multiple burial stones in the exact same location with the name Ishmael on them.. what are you talking about!!!??? "NHM" you do realize there is a book in the Bible called "Nahum" or "NHM" - again another common name of the Middle East. Also, there is a map with the name "Nahem" right on it. Are you being serious?
I love these evidences of the book of Mormon. Thanks for the website where we can read more!
You want to see another something cool? Look up the U Tube video on Beit Lehi. It means House of Lehi. It is about a Prophet Lehi that lived 600 to 650 BC 23 miles south of Jerusalem, which in the writings in the city say at that time it was considered part of the greater city Jerusalem, who just disappeared about 600 BC. Not only is this evidence of Lehi of the Book of Mormon, but it also shows Nephi was correct at recording that Jesus would be born at the land of Jerusalem, because if the Lehi was considered part of the greater Jerusalem at 23 miles away from today Jerusalem, Bethlehem would also be considered part of the greater Jerusalem at only 11. Miles away of todays Jerusalem.
It’s also more apparent when you see the word “at” rather than “in” Jerusalem. Just a correction, the prophesy of Christ being born at Jerusalem is Alma, not Nephi. Something else that’s interesting, the New Testament refers to the region as Judæa. That name originated apparently around 6 ad and is actually the Greek and Roman adaptation of the Hebrew name Judah. It would have been odd for the name Judaea to have used by Alma, instead of saying Jerusalem, the LAND of our forefathers.
I am fron headingley Leeds, Yorkshire England. When speaking of my home I always say Leeds’. If I were telling that to someone in the states I would say, Leeds in England as it is unlikely they would know headingly.
Thanks for the insights and efforts behind this project.
Thank you so very much! Just love the information and testimony you have shared with us over many wonderful, amazing podcasts!Heavenly Father has blessed you with a very special talent to share with us in these Latter Day’s 💞🥰
Thank you for these videos. Good thing they are learning more and sharing.
Faith comes first ❤ 4:49
If that were true the apostles wouldn't have needed to see Jesus resurrected to have the faith needed to face horrible deaths would they?
Another great video, Jasmine!!
SUPER COOL!
Of course, we should not base our testimony on physical evidence of scriptural stories, but I LOVE it!!
“Rational argument does not create belief, but it maintains a climate in which belief may flourish.”
-Austin Farrer
What an amazing find! Thanks for sharing!
WOW! So so cool. Thanks.so much for your hard work. You are appreciated so much!
I love your positivity and for tackling things that could be tough. Thanks!
Interesting that grumpy people are always hovering to discount anything that promotes a spark of faith. I'm sure that these same people would be the first to disbelieve the ancient apostles and church members who said we saw Christ resurrected, but without seeing themselves refused to believe.
It is true that a mask with the name Ishmael is just an interest, but it's also interesting that very plausible locations for the valley of Laman, Shazer, camp of the fabricated bow, Nahom, and bountiful have all been located the the Arabian peninsula. Taken together they can serve as a builder of faith. Anything these days that serves to build faith in Jesus Christ is a good thing and the book of Mormon testified of the divinity of Christ and helps to build faith. So why the Grinchy naysayers?
You;ve obviously never been to that part of the world.
@@michaelclairforet5031 do you have to go there to understand the lay of the land?
@@taylorsessions4143 yes. That’s why there are ambassadors, envoys, aides, spys, attaches, visitors, professors etc,etc,etc, who all report back, and then congress men, and presidents show up. There is nothing like being there and “pressing the flesh “ to get the lay of the land except living there. You haven’t done any of it but watch fake news.
The Book of Mormon is the word of God. That truth is verified by God Himself through prayer. If you honestly seek truth, you go to the source of truth, which is God, not your own understanding(or that of any other mortal). Physical evidences are very fun and enlightening, but they don't actually build faith. I knew the BoM was true before any of these evidences. I knew, because the Holy Spirit confirmed the truth of it in my heart. I love the factual evidences, but they alone will not build faith.
@@Ranger_48 well said! Still, hearing about these evidences makes me smile. I treasure the relationship I have with my Father in heaven. It is truly miraculous that he is listening to my prayers and answering me on a personal basis. I still remember asking if the book of Mormon was a true book, containing his word. Its hard to describe the feeling I received through the holy Ghost, but it was peace and joy and clarity and so much more all at once. It was easy for me to determine that this was coming from an outside source that was bigger than me. No amount of physical evidence can compare to this personal witness.
That was pretty interesting. Thank you for making that nice video.
Love your episodes🧡
Yemen is dangerous right now. I'm glad that this archeological work is already done.
It is! Yemen was dangerous back then, too!
There is probably more to do. Watch them mention Lehi... ! 😂
This is remarkable. The finding of a place named Nahom is stunning in itself, but I’ve often thought how amazing it would be to find proof of Ismael’s burial place there. Evidence is mounting and ought to be already strong enough to make doubters wonder. A 19th century farm boy in upstate NY could not have made this stuff up.
@@Flintlock1776 Whose work could he have pawned off as his own? Much of the evidence being found now was not even known back then.
Perhaps it's more likely that the actual authors in the Book of Mormon (i.e., the ancient prophets) kept their records and through revelation Joseph Smith received and was commanded by the Lord to translate them today into the Book of Mormon.
But you don't have to take my word, or anyone else's--scholarly or otherwise--to know that the Book of Mormon is true. You just have to ask God with a sincere heart if it's true or not.
@@drmichaelshea actually Peepstone Joe could and did make it up
I do not need any archeological find to “prove” the Book of Mormon!
My Prayers n Studies of 46+years have confirmed it in my heart n a SURITY of the Word of GOD ! N HIS SON JESUS CHRIST!!
As a Convert n member of 4 other Churches,my Wife n I Prayed n Fasted!! Got the answers we were l👀king n Praying 🙏🏼 for !!
AMEN !!
Good thing you don't need archeological evidence for the Book of Mormon because the LDS can't find any
Did you like skip to the comments or something?
@@richarner3856 ... Literally Lehi's ENTIRE Journey from Jerusalem to the Sea HAS been proven already. Near EVERY point the Book of Mormon mentions of Lehi's journey has been shown to exist along the entire route. The likelihood Joseph Smith "made that up", most of the information not even known in Joseph's day is entirely impossible.
I recommend start reading the book "Lehi in the Wilderness - 81 Evidences...." and see for yourself, to start your journey of actual knowledge instead of judgment in ignorance and pride.
Thanks for posting. Great info!
Wonderful information.
The Book of Mormon is the word of God.
What does that mean?
Yes it is.
No evidence for that. Even if they got almost one thing right, still no evidence that it is of God. Also, remember that the god of the Book of Mormon was a man and is an exalted man, just one of an infinite number of gods. Kind of the opposite of the God of the Holy Bible.
No amount of evidence will ever convince you. lol.
@@ts-900So which version of the Bible do you think is correct? The church of Jesus Christ is not based on the Bible, it is based on what the Bible is based on. Revelation through prophets. Old Testament prophets, new Testament prophets and modern day prophets.
Great reporting! Thank you for sharing !
thank you for the iinfo....
Fascinating!
I love these kinds of video, not so much to prove to my friends the Book of Mormon is true but seeing the possibly actual artifacts and places mean something to me. It is like visiting the Sacred Grove or visiting the Holy Land. I hope one day we can find and tell, "oh, this is where Captain Moroni has faught", "oh, this is waters of Mormon where Alma baptized the people".
Support of the Book of Mormon being the word of God in clearly demonstrated in 2 Nephi 5:21.
Great knowing
Awesome insights!
Thank you! ☀️❤️
Thanks for the Video!
We all know critics will scoff and say "lucky guess" lol. How many lucky guesses does Joseph Smith get? He definitely was a prophet.
Peepstone Joe was a false prophet
That’s pretty special, Jasmin, as Ishmael represented the Ephraim side of Lehi’s caravan as we know , conversely, Lehi was part of Manasseh (Alma 10.2,3) lineage to comprise the fruitful bough by a well whose branches would flow over the waters of the well (Gen 49.22)
Amazing to even find a stone like that to possibly mark the area where Ishmael was laid to rest near Nahom.
Love this! Thank you!
I like how she says I’m not saying for sure, but all evidence points to!!! Lol
It is hard to watch these videos and not get excited.
Many of us are fine with our testimony & knowledge we have of the book of Mormon, but the extra stuff it’s pretty cool, exciting and fun!
They are being intellectually and professionally honest about it. Critics won’t ever return the favor.
Yes, it is so exciting!!!!!
Another fantastic video! Thank you
Thank you ❤
Beautiful! Thank you for sharing
❤ Thanks 😮
Wow this is amazing! ❤❤❤
This is great stuff.
Good to see ya here ward radio! Fellow fan here
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Channel's like this are doing God's work. Science is a gift from God!
I agree. Science is definitely a gift from God. It would be so exciting to hear a video of all the dna science that stands behind the Book of Mormon. I Cant wait!!!
So fascinating!
Thank you for this!
Also…. I miss Temple Light videos…..
Check out Bryce Dunford's Temple series on the Talking Scripture YT channel if you haven't already. It's fantastic.
Cool find!
Proof enough for me. I always knew that in these last days, more and more proof that the book of Mormon will be revealed. I have zero doubt it is, even before this and beit lehi. ❤
This is no proof though 😭
Ishmael was an incredibly common name back then and finding this stone there proves nothing, since multiple others have been found in the area.
So when I read the Book of Mormon I’m getting spiritual guidance and an awesome archeological record!
So interesting! ❤
Epic!! How about the house of Lehi? That was super epic too👌😊
Wasn't there also an altar in this area with the inscription "Nahom?" Would love to see something on that.
Search Book of Mormon Central Nahom in the search bar and youll see several videos about Nahom.
@@president234 Not true! Since vowels aren't used, Nahom is very plausible since any vowels could be used. This has been confirmed by multiple non-LDS scholars. The only ones refusing to admit that Nahom fits perfectly as a translation of NHM are anti-mormon cynics who go to every length to try to discredit the many evidences being discovered that show plausibility of Book of Mormon claims.
@@president234 Multiple vowels exist with the letters NHM in the area in verbal languages over the centuries. No big deal here, except in the antichrist literature. In that delusion, nothing is evidence for the Church of Jesus Christ. So sad to see such intellectually dishonest people.
Another testament of the book of mormon.
Love this!
What the Truth, how could prophet Joseph have known. Well simple he truly was a prophet.
Worlds greatest guesser 😂😂
I'm interested in a first edition of the Book of Mormon. Can you help me?
If Lehi and his family had just recently left Jerusalem, and they spoke Hebrew, then why would they carve the "South Arabian" form of the name Ishmael on the gravestone? Why would they not carve it in the Hebrew language which they spoke?
Perhaps they weren't stone cutters and so hired a local to carve the stone.
It is doubtful Lehi packed stone-cutting tools. The local tribesmen would have probably not only quarried the stone but also be the ones hired/bartered to carve the name on it. It was customary to do this in the native tongue and dialect. Lehi would have been familiar with this and respect it. Nothing unusual here.
@@vendingdudes - you are making a ton of assumptions here. 1 - Lehi would have been familiar with it. 2 - Lehi didn't pack any stone cutting tools. 3 - Local Tribesman did it 4 - it was customary to do this in the native tongue and dialect.
The Book of Mormon tells us that they didn’t write in Hebrew - they wrote in Egyptian 1 Nephi 1:2
@@BenMcrea61 -it says they carved the gold plates in reformed egyptian, but they lived in Jerusalem and would have spoken Hebrew. And also, if they wrote in Egyptian, why not write Ishmaels name in Egyptian on the gravestone. It says it was written in South Arabian....
The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus Christ and is the work and word of God.
Love this
The Nahom argument is one of the ways that I determine if I'm talking to an honest person or not. NHM is for the Nihm tribe that lived in the area. Nahom has never been found on a map, but Nehem has. The area is on the opposite side of an impassable mountain range (the Nehem Range), and the book of mormon text states that they stayed within the border of the Red Sea. Nahum is found in the bible and means mourning. There's a real possibility that Joseph dictated the word Nahom to play off the word for a place of mourning.
Ishmael is a biblical name and also an Islamic name. It doesn’t specifically support Mormon scripture the way the discovery can’t specifically support Jewish and Muslim claims. It was a common name expected to be in that area and falls in the expected boundary regardless of Mormon scripture
It's still exciting discovery.
I have yet to see anyone with authority in the church validate any of these claims. Why is that?
Because they can't.
How would they "validate" these claims? They would probably just turn to researchers and archaeologists.
Historically, the Church leaders teach the gospel and allow the scholars and researchers to do what they do. I have never nor do I expect to hear them promote these things from the pulpit. Personally, I think that’s wise and appropriate.
@@mikewood3557 The Church has always been big on history. Especially pioneer history. It makes sense that if these claims could be validated, they would be all over it. Maybe not from the pulpit, but definitely in the church history department.
This is amazing discovery ❤
in Islam Ismael or Ishmael was burried in Hijr Ismael near the Kaaba in Mekka . even Jewish Rabbis agreed that Mecca is the land of Ishmael like Ibn Izra the Great Rabbi who said the well God made for Hagar in Torah was the well of Zamzam near the Kaaba
Wonderful!
Ishmael Rules! 🤘👿🤘
Yes, this is great evidence for the Book of Mormon. However, the most important evidence is always the evidence of the heart that comes through prayer, living the gospel taught, and then keeping it through allowing the gospel to support you through the trials and tribulations of life. Baptism by immersion signifies the depth of one's conversion in covenants also.
Jeremiah 17: 9-10
That is so cool!
wow, you earned a new sub from me
You can bet when they find any serious credible archeology pointing toward The Book of Mormon,the Church will spare no expense,putting it on every media platform known to mankind.
You would lose that bet. I am really interested in evidences that support the Book of Mormon and the restoration of the gospel. But the official church doesn’t try to “prove” its position. Critics seem to seek smoking gun proof, or the church must be false. Read the tale of the rich man and Lazarus. Proof doesn’t convert.
Is there any non Mormons articles about this stone?
You need a non Mormon article to tell you how to think?
How many people named Ishmael LIVED and DIED in this region over say 500 years???????
My question is why nobidy seems to have said anything before about there being a Nihm place... why they themselves didn't bring it up?
That’s amazing 🤩
Wow. ❤
What I found most remarkable was you are presenting this as evidence. We need to present strong evidence of our truths, equal to the strong evidence critics of The Church present!
The critics have NEVER presented evidence that the Book of Mormon isn’t true. That’s why they keep trying even after these 200 years.
@@mikeboyd3225 They have though, time and time again.
Literally read "Historicity of the Book of Mormon" on Wikipedia. The founder of the NWAF (an LDS Church-sponsored venure into finding archeological evidence of the Book of Mormon) gave up after more than a decade of finding evidence that instead disproved it.@@mikeboyd3225
@@thecapitalg not even once.
@@mikeboyd3225 I literally just explained why, I don't know if my other reply is gone. Anyways read the Wikipedia article on the historical integrity of the Book of Mormon. It literally has everything you need.
I love this!!
I knew that Nahom was a real location which by itself is pretty amazing for Joseph Smith to use the real name of a region that was not even known at the time from 600 bc. To add that there is evidence of an Ismael buried in the same area around the same time. That is validating to my testimony. At the same time, it does not form my testimony. I know by the power of the Holy Ghost that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by the power of God. Because I know this, I also know that Jesus is the Christ and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is His kingdom set up upon the earth in preparation for His second coming. Historical records are just going to catch up.
I think you linked to the wrong article just so ya know 👍
Very Cool! If Joseph Smith was a con man, which he wasn't, i would love to have his help in the lottery because he would be the greatest guesser in the world.
Indeed. That is the point of some of the recent videos. While we cannot say whether this stone is from the Ishmael in question, the fact that there are dozens of descriptions along this journey which match up with the geography, greatly reduce the probability of someone having just made it up.
YES!!!
There are many burial stones in this region with the same name. It is quite a common name. It is also written in Arabic and not Hebrew, and the burial stones have been moved and tampered with.
Uncommon
@@Millennium_Animationsvery common and has been for millennia. Ishmael, the first born of Abraham is the patriarch of Islam.
The name of Ishmael is interesting but certainly inconclusive. But the place called Nahom perfectly consistent with the story in the Book of Mormon on is far more compelling. No, it doesn’t “prove” if but it is extremely supportive. Yet again, the Book of Mormon is found to be consistent with evidences, and yet again, there is no way Joseph, or even the scholars of the day, could have known to include something like this.
@@mikewood3557 that is just silly. There are maps from the 1700s and 1800s with the name Nahom, Nahum, in the Arabian peninsula. You've been lied to by unscrupulous apologists. Do yourself a favor and really research the topic before you spread the lies you've been fed. Don't just listen to church sources. Do legitimate research.
Thank you l do believe it
I have a friend who works for Prince Mohammed bin Salman but the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is not friendly with Yemen, Yemen was at one time part of Saudi Arabia
Wait. South Arabian word for Ishmael. Are you suggesting Lehi's group were writing Southern Arabian on his grave marker? 🤔 I find that hard to believe given that the BoM claims "reformed Hebrew" and "reformed Egyptian", which has to have been based on the writing systems Lehi et al brought with them. There is no suggestion of any form of Arabian among them.
Cool!
The question is how the Ishmael family traveled from that end in Saudi Arabia (Yemen) with Lehi to the Americas???? Did they go south to the Indian Ocean, then headed west to the Atlantic Ocean and finally reached the Americas, or did they travel north the Red Sea and west the Mediterranean Sea to cross the Atlantic Sea and reach the Americas ??? 🤔🤔 This is a little perplexing 😕
They couldn’t have sailed through the Red Sea because the Suez canal didn’t exist at that time. They had to either go east across the Pacific or south and then west around Africa and then across the Pacific. Either would have been a spectacular feat.
You have to remember that the name Ishmael was very popular back then
Did Joseph Smith or Sidney Rigdon have access to a diary of common Semetic names of that era?
@@jessewhite5232 Genesis 16 : 11 Ishmael, Genesis 24 : 29 Laban, Proverbs 31 : 1 Lemuel, 2 Maccabees 1 : 36 Nephi. Its not impossible he wrote it
Yes, that’s true. Ishmael is quite possibly coincidental. But the place, Nahom, being particularly named in the Book of Mormon and being perfectly placed to fit the narrative is compelling.
1:30 "the southeastern corner of the Arabian peninsula"
Uh, that would be the southwestern corner.
Just a heads up. 1. Nihim was a known reigon, labled on actual maps before Joseph was born 2. Ishmael is an actual name that was used a lot for a long time
اسماعيل جدي مدفون في الحجر العلا اليوم بحسب التقليد المعروف لقبائلنا والاسلام ولكن النقش اليمني يدل على شعبية اسماعيل وسليمان وسبأ في تلك الفتره نفسها ٦٠٠ قبل الميلاد
I find this very interesting and I wonder which sea route they took to land in America then... I always assumed they had traveled through the North of Africa and crossed the Atlantic Ocean...
Assuming they left in the fall, so the could make it to America and plant seeds in the spring, the wind and water current patterns would have sent them south around the bottom tip of Africa and shoot them straight to Florida. There have been a few Phoenicia Ship Expeditions, using technology of ship building from 600 B.C., to try to leave Jerusalem and return by circling Africa. They had to override the natural course to head back across the Atlantic to make it back to Jerusalem. This was done fall 2009. I think there has been a second one more recently as well.
There's no travel through North Africa in a ship in 600BC, however.
Jesus Christ Is King 👑
And that should be expected.
I believe in the Book of Mormon, but why would they have marked his grave with south Arabian inscriptions and not Hebrew, where he was from?
“The inscribed y s1mʿʾl is exactly how the Hebrew name yšmʿʾl (ישמעאל) - typically rendered as “Ishmael” in English - would be spelled in Epigraphic South Arabian.” This is from the interpreter foundation . Apparently they would have been carved the same in both languages.
Ah, the profound wisdom of white women tutoring us through TH-cam videos-teaching us everything from gluten-free baking to DIY crafts and beyond. I haven't felt so blessed since my kind and warm kindergarten teacher taught me to color within the lines. Thank goodness for their earnest life hacks and perfectly curated advice. Thank you for enlightening us on every possible topic!
@@allengreg5447 you’re discounting the information because she’s white?
Proof that the Book of Mormon is true, and Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God , and The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is the true church. Thank you to the missionaries all over the world for finding souls like me to know the true church of Jesus Christ
I knew that the Book of Mormón was true by the power of the Holy Ghost ❤
That's very fascinating. I'd be curious to know who found it and why they don't know exactly where they found it. It may have been useful to exume the remains.
I believe it was Neal Rappleye who first brought it to light. I believe the video says the stone was removed from its location so it will be impossible to find the remains. Besides, I wonder if the skeletal remains haven’t fully broken down to its elements anyways after 2600 years even being buried.
@@RecoveringUGrad Thanks for your response. It would be great to get as much verification as possible. Still, this is an interesting find.
I'm guessing the comical face inscribed was done by young Jacob son on Lehi ?
Just a couple of questions...Why would they use 'South Arabian' script when they wrote the book using 'Reformed Egyptian'? Shouldn't it be written in the language and script they knew and not a script entirely new to them and used by people they never met? If you remember, the entire trek across the peninsula was done avoiding any people so they couldn't be found out. Also, how common was the name Ishmael at that time?
Ishmael was an incredibly common name in 600 b.c. Of course, there isn't any reformed Egyptian it was contrived after the mound builders' myth. The belief was that their language sounded Jewish, and of course, they wrote like the Egyptians, i.e., Mayans.
Because they are grasping at straws. The same reason Joseph Smith claimed that Charles Anthon said the characters had “Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic”. I wonder how Mormon was familiar with those languages 1000 years after Lehi left Jerusalem.
It's possible they hired someone in the area to make the grave marker for them. Also, they needed to be undetected in the wilderness to not attract thieves and robbers or other unfriendly folk, but they didn't need to do that in a populated area such as Nahom.
@@MemyzelphandI Egyptians used 4 writing systems. Hieroglyphs, Hieratic, Demotic, and Coptic. The Demotic scripts was a very simplified version of Hieroglyphs and was used by traders, merchants, and such. It came into use when Lehi was a child, and Lehi was a merchant. He would have learned this very writing system. It is commonly known as a form of simplified Egyptian. Or in other words, Reformed Egyptian.
You're assuming they never met such people, and didn't know the language. Lehi was a merchant. He likely knew lots of languages, and traveled all over, and had interactions with people from all over. It doesn't seem odd that one would use the words of those you are around. You would want those who remain in a place, to know what a grave marker says. They would be the one's looking after the grave. I think it would be helpful if they understood the grave that was among their own. Don't you think?
Why would it be in script for south Arabia and not in Hebrew? I thought Nephi was writing in reformed Egyptian and Hebrew. That does not fit the artifact. Is this video claiming that this is the burial totem of the actual Ishmael? Seems very implausible given the facts.
“The inscribed y s1mʿʾl is exactly how the Hebrew name yšmʿʾl (ישמעאל) - typically rendered as “Ishmael” in English - would be spelled in Epigraphic South Arabian.” This is from the interpreter foundation . Apparently they would have been carved the same in both languages.
@@evanbailey8294 I think we agree on the fact that the inscription is in epigraphic south Arabic, not Hebrew. So let’s suppose you are trekking with friends across Russia, and you friend John dies. When you place a rock with his name on the grave you are most likely going to write ‘John’ in English not Ivan in Cyrillic. It makes no sense to use a different language than the one the group speaks. Is it surprising to find a gravestone label Ivan in Russia? This discover seems just as remarkable. Using this as an example of BOM evidence is an example of the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
@@nathanpeterson5906 yes however, Ishmael was not a common name in that area at that time. Plus people from Israel and that surrounding region at the time adopted burial traditions from their neighbors. It’s not impossible for them to learn the language along the journey in the penninsula too since they spent a very long time down there.
@@evanbailey8294 I don’t think the text of the BOM supports extensive interactions with people. I believe it stated that they avoided people. My bar for accepting evidence is much higher than something being ‘not impossible.’ I try to look for the most probable explanation. If you didn’t already hold a faith based belief in the truth of the BOM would you find this evidence convincing? Maintaining this as evidence requires confirmation bias.
@@nathanpeterson5906 it says right in the first book that he only writes about spiritual things and the ministry. He wouldn’t write about any small interaction with the locals.
NHM is for the Nihm region where the Nihmite people lived, not Nahom. Hebrew does not use vowels. Ishmael is probably the most common name in that region for that time. It's like Michael or David or Joe in the United States.
This is an example of Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
So, how did Joseph Smith come up with a name that just so happened to be a common name of tha era in that region? That's the rub, in case you missed it.
@@jessewhite5232Ishmael from the Bible, the first born male of Abraham is the patriarch of Islam and has been popular there for millennia! Very commonly known if anyone is a student of world religions.
I hear a lot of maybes and speculations in this report. Finding the location of Ishmaels burial place doesn't confirm the writings of Joseph Smith. Some of his prophecies were never fulfilled which makes him a false prophet.
WOAH
This isn't new information Hugh Nibley wrote about this in his books An Approach to the Book of Mormon and Lehi in the Desert.
The new part is the Ishmael stele. That's pretty recent.
So if the BOM is true, what do I do with this information? I believe clearly Brigham young was not a prophet of Christ so do I check out who else?
You should consider the integrity of the information you used to reject Brigham as critics don’t comprehend the issues correctly. Whether it’s polygamy, blood atonement, Adam God or something else, the criticisms fall short of sound understanding of scripture, doctrine and the historical record.
If BoM is true then follow Christ as it says and not in the arm of flesh.
The Lds church list the young teenagers that Brigham Married. The Lds church changed its mind and said Brigham’s racism was not revelation but just a principle. I have 20 prophecies that have not and can not come true. Have you read the talk given by Brigham about worshiping Adam? So why not join one of the other Mormon churches? No answers from anyone?
There are multiple burial stones in the exact same location with the name Ishmael on them.. what are you talking about!!!???
"NHM" you do realize there is a book in the Bible called "Nahum" or "NHM" - again another common name of the Middle East. Also, there is a map with the name "Nahem" right on it.
Are you being serious?