You've just solved two problems for me - interdependent problems with the 45 degree mitre. Getting both square and dimensions right can be tricky. I sometimes gain and lose 1mm or 2mm in dimensions, by ensuring that the item is square. If I gain on the length, I lose on the width, and vice versa. This method guarantees dimensions and makes keeping square much easier! I can't wait to try it. Thanks so much mate!!
Been doing it that way for years!! Makes for a good fit every time, it's faster, easier to weld and much easier to clean up!!!! Any grinding is out in the open more!!
I agree that each person should choose whichever method works best for them. With that said I suspect a lot of people who have trouble ending up with 90-degree corners, cutting half as many times with one quick slice on the 45 may have a heat distortion issue. Once you figure out where to tack first, which beads to run first and in what direction 90's are quick and easy.
I agree with you, but as some people only ever make one or two welding projects in their whole life, it's nice for them to have another way that may be easier for them to make the cuts. Thank you for your comment.
Wow! What a coincidence? I have also independently conceived this idea sometime early this year,while contemplating on how to fabricate iron doors and windows using mostly angle iron bars and glass plus pieces of flat bar strips,it then turned out that this was an irreplaceable and most reliable option for certain areas of the design, so I say well done to you and for any one who is interested in my own design idea ,you can do so by directly responding to my comment for me to provide more details
I use this technique for making equipment stands for A/C units. This makes a stronger stand than a 45˚ miter and it is easier to keep the stand square. Keep all the welds on the bottom for a smooth top surface
@@GavinClarkdiy Also I have been using a lot of old bed frame angle and that shit is hard a awedding prick and makes the friction saw blade want to squirm and wander especially on a 45! So that's when I started doing them like this! Also just found your channel and love your other videos! Watching them is like a vacation for my brain! Lol, keep up the good work Sir!
Мне нравится. А я такое видел сорок лет назад. Мне показывал мой папа-крестный, который работал в депо хромировщиком. Времени у него на работе было много и он все делал сам, для продажи. Делал ножи, тапорики, люстры, торшеры, закрутки для стеклянных банок, детские кроватки и пистолеты.
В первые дни вокруг было несколько великих мастеров, многие навыки теряются в наши дни, у меня также был очень опытный человек, которому я мог научиться, мой папа. Я не придумал, что многие люди делали это так, как раньше, я поделился этим, так как многие люди находят, что он должен был сделать хороший разрез, и это простое одобрение для людей с ограниченными инструментами, чтобы выполнить свою работу. Спасибо за ваш комментарий
Hey Gavin - thanks for this really useful tutorial. Your method for joining angle iron is very clever. I think it helps keep warp under control, is easy to clean up and easy to make joins discrete. Cheers!
Awesome, thank you, I am glad you liked it. Just for the record I did not invent this method it is one that we have used at different times over many years. Thank you for your comment.
I used this technique to make a cooler holder for my tractor. 1 1/2” angle iron. Got it perfectly square. Lots of welding surface. Will be my method of choice from now on !
Instead of having to miter (2) separate 45 degree angles to match perfectly on four different sides, I’d much rather cut (1) 90 degree angle and slap it into a factory edge. Well done brotha! 🍻 I’ll have to forever use this lol so many times when I was starting out in fabrication, I struggled to get a true 45 degree miter every time. This technique is so simple yet, it’s clearly a thought out engineered design, meant for structural integrity as well as aesthetically pleasing weld joints. 👏 👨🏭 🍺 🍺
I've Always had problems cutting angles, as they say there's more then one way to skin a cat, you just made my life that much easier, thank you for this video.
be a lot easier to get a good finished weld if you left gaps , if your sure you can get full pen on the closed joint , then just mitre at 45 degrees . im not seeing this as an answer to any problem , maybe just me who thinks that , but id not want to be paying you by the hour.
This is great! I had no idea this less complicated version of a cope existed. 45 is a slow pain if only one chop saw is available. Have to keep changing between 45 and 90.
Im low-tech family welder having amateur welding skill. It was so hard making 45 with any angle grinder. Cutting 45 with zip cutting disc is not accurate. Making the bevel edge toke a lot of time. I see that Cope joint method save me because straight cut only is fairly easy.
I’ve done them both ways. The 45 is faster and easier-if your saw is at a vertical 90 degrees. Otherwise when you cut a 45 it’s going to be off. I use the bandsaw for the slice in the end for this method. Much easier, and cleaner than a grinder. But if that’s all you have... The only advantage to me with this method is no sharp corner that needs to be welded. It’s better to weld this joint.
I do prefer a cope vs a 45 miter for keeping the joint squared easier. The best is to notch a 45 and then bend and only have to weld 1 half of the 45 instead of 2 if you had just cut both pieces at a 45 and but welded them together
Olá da Austrália, sim, muitas pessoas têm problemas para fazer 45 articulações, portanto, dessa maneira, as ajuda a fazer o trabalho. Obrigado pelo seu comentário
There seem to be a lotta blokes that like the 45. I dont make much from metal (or angle iron more specifically) but I cut the square out when I do. The other method is just cuttin corners, pun intended
gurjinder singh doesn’t it lose strength when using that method? I would think so and the 45 degree cut with a straight weld sound far more superior to me.
@@arkhamkillzone This is part of my trade. Perhaps you could actually qualify how a 45 degree prepped weld would be stronger!!! (Keep in mind, I never use a stinkin' inaccurate droppy anymore, so all of my welds of this type of joint are straight 45 degree, which also MUCH quicker)
I would think you could cut across the angle, but I think you would have a bit of a hard time cutting down along the angle it close side, as the steel gets thicker and I think your blade would want to wander out away from where you need to cut. I have cut these with an hacksaw before, a bit slow but with not too many troubles. Just try it with the jigsaw see how it goes. Hope this helps a bit.
Thank you, I am glad you liked it and it was of some help, I guess sounding like your old manual arts teacher is a good thing, hahaha Thank you for your comment.
This is the Angle Iron Cupboard I was making in this video. th-cam.com/video/PYKxMC-awwg/w-d-xo.html
that's what I do for the corner frame. more solid and resistant
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@Hello Gavin Clark, How are you doing?
You've just solved two problems for me - interdependent problems with the 45 degree mitre. Getting both square and dimensions right can be tricky. I sometimes gain and lose 1mm or 2mm in dimensions, by ensuring that the item is square. If I gain on the length, I lose on the width, and vice versa. This method guarantees dimensions and makes keeping square much easier! I can't wait to try it. Thanks so much mate!!
Thank you I am glad it was of some help. thank you for your comment
Thank! I'm a beginner who really needed a straightforward method to cut and weld good, clean, 90-degree corners. Awesome!
Been doing it that way for years!!
Makes for a good fit every time, it's faster, easier to weld and much easier to clean up!!!! Any grinding is out in the open more!!
Hay mate iam 20 year welder boilermaker thank you so much for sharing this this will be my preferred method from now on.
Thank you I am glad it was of some help.
Struth mate. 20 years a boily and this is new to you? You didn't learn much in early days. This is kindergarten stuff.
I learned this method when I first learned to weld! Were you asleep in welding class?
I agree that each person should choose whichever method works best for them. With that said I suspect a lot of people who have trouble ending up with 90-degree corners, cutting half as many times with one quick slice on the 45 may have a heat distortion issue. Once you figure out where to tack first, which beads to run first and in what direction 90's are quick and easy.
I agree with you, but as some people only ever make one or two welding projects in their whole life, it's nice for them to have another way that may be easier for them to make the cuts. Thank you for your comment.
Thanks, always done 45 degree but from now, I'll be doing it this way. Thanks from UK.
Thank you
Wow! What a coincidence? I have also independently conceived this idea sometime early this year,while contemplating on how to fabricate iron doors and windows using mostly angle iron bars and glass plus pieces of flat bar strips,it then turned out that this was an irreplaceable and most reliable option for certain areas of the design, so I say well done to you and for any one who is interested in my own design idea ,you can do so by directly responding to my comment for me to provide more details
I'm from the Philippines, thanks for the new technic, I'm a newbie in welding and I love making thing, your video will help me a lot.
Thank you I am glad it was of some help.
Excellent technique...I grind a chamfer on the outside edges as well for better penetration of thicker material. Weld on!
Very good advice Mondo, I agree with you. Thank you for your comment
@Hello RideEm, How are you doing?
Thanks mate. I struggled cutting 45° before, your way looks easier and heaps neater. I'll give it a crack. Cheers.
No problem 👍 Glad it gave you some ideas, hope all goes well. Thank you for your comment.
I'm building a welder cart and I tried cutting your way. Easier, cleaner and finish is better.
I use this technique for making equipment stands for A/C units. This makes a stronger stand than a 45˚ miter and it is easier to keep the stand square. Keep all the welds on the bottom for a smooth top surface
Yes this has been my preferred method for a while now. Makes it simpler and don have struggle with getting the angle dead on.
Yes I agree nice and simple.
@@GavinClarkdiy Also I have been using a lot of old bed frame angle and that shit is hard a awedding prick and makes the friction saw blade want to squirm and wander especially on a 45! So that's when I started doing them like this! Also just found your channel and love your other videos! Watching them is like a vacation for my brain! Lol, keep up the good work Sir!
@@RJB_FixinStuff Thank you very much Tom, I appreciate your comment.
wow, even your tack welds are a thing of art, bravo!
Thank you very much!
Thats a very strong joints and most of all it was clean a perfect 90degree
Thank you.
Very good technique, simple, easy and strong bonding.
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it.
Going to make a plate to block my mower discharge. This will work great for me. Thanks!
Awesome, I am glad it helped, thank you for your comment.
I came for the knowledge. I stayed for the accent. Great video my friend.
Thank you very much, I appreciate your comment.
Мне нравится. А я такое видел сорок лет назад. Мне показывал мой папа-крестный, который работал в депо хромировщиком. Времени у него на работе было много и он все делал сам, для продажи. Делал ножи, тапорики, люстры, торшеры, закрутки для стеклянных банок, детские кроватки и пистолеты.
В первые дни вокруг было несколько великих мастеров, многие навыки теряются в наши дни, у меня также был очень опытный человек, которому я мог научиться, мой папа. Я не придумал, что многие люди делали это так, как раньше, я поделился этим, так как многие люди находят, что он должен был сделать хороший разрез, и это простое одобрение для людей с ограниченными инструментами, чтобы выполнить свою работу. Спасибо за ваш комментарий
Hey Gavin - thanks for this really useful tutorial. Your method for joining angle iron is very clever. I think it helps keep warp under control, is easy to clean up and easy to make joins discrete. Cheers!
Awesome, thank you, I am glad you liked it. Just for the record I did not invent this method it is one that we have used at different times over many years. Thank you for your comment.
I'm a maintenance tech and fulltime welder in the oil and gas industry. 45s are used in all heavy duty builds.
@Hello Daniel Aguado, How are you doing?
Very cool 👍👍
Gives you one more weld line than a standard 45
Yes, you are right, but probably a bit simpler joint for some people to get 90 degrees with.
Just what I needed to know thanks mate
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it.
Я тоже именно это искал. Спасибо огромное! Подписался
@@asdfasdfasdfasdism Спасибо большое, добро пожаловать на канал.
I used this technique to make a cooler holder for my tractor. 1 1/2” angle iron. Got it perfectly square. Lots of welding surface. Will be my method of choice from now on !
nice to know this kind of technique. another idea to work on my plant holder ...
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it. I wish you the best for your project.
Good deal! I use that method of joining angle iron more than several times in the past.
Yes it is not a new idea, many people use it, thank you for your comment.
glad I've been doing this all the time (I used to weld 45s back then)
Instead of having to miter (2) separate 45 degree angles to match perfectly on four different sides, I’d much rather cut (1) 90 degree angle and slap it into a factory edge. Well done brotha! 🍻 I’ll have to forever use this lol so many times when I was starting out in fabrication, I struggled to get a true 45 degree miter every time. This technique is so simple yet, it’s clearly a thought out engineered design, meant for structural integrity as well as aesthetically pleasing weld joints.
👏 👨🏭 🍺 🍺
Gavin Clark Great tip! I am going to give this a try next time I weld up angle iron.
I have been welding for some time and honestly I never thought abought that. This is simpler and think much better..
Thanks for demonstrating the cope joint. I'll try this next time I need to weld 90 degree angle with my everlast welder.
I am glad it was of some help. Thank you for your comment.
Great, no need for a 45 and less material to cut, thanks Gavin.
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it.
I've Always had problems cutting angles, as they say there's more then one way to skin a cat, you just made my life that much easier, thank you for this video.
Glad I could help, thank you for your comment.
Thanks Gavin, I'd always done 45 degree cuts and they needed more care and time than this. Thanks again.
Thank you very much, I am glad you found something useful in my video, thank you for your comment.
Without cutting any angle by jointing both together is very stronger and better😉😉😉 im a filipino welder
I’ve done them both ways. I also grind chamfers on the edges so I can flush grind the welds.
Same mate, makes for a neater final product.
That’s a cool joint method! Thanks
Glad you like it! Thank you for your comment
At 2:47 if you make an additional cut to the coved piece you can fit it inside (on top of) the straight piece for a let more structural strength.
Thank you very much, I agree with you, and appreciate your comment.
Great staff , I learned a new skill
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it.
Very good job see you from FRANCE !
Thank you.
be a lot easier to get a good finished weld if you left gaps , if your sure you can get full pen on the closed joint , then just mitre at 45 degrees .
im not seeing this as an answer to any problem , maybe just me who thinks that , but id not want to be paying you by the hour.
I've been welding the 45 cuts for years. ..for me it's quicker and neat
I agree with you but some people struggle to cut a 45, thank you for your comment
tutorial video please
Excellent it looks better more clean
I think so too!
Hi! I'm from Philippines. Great video I'm your fan now
G'day from Australia, welcome to the channel, thank you for your comment.
Good idea.. cutting at 45 degrees requires accuracy...
Doesn't require it but it makes life easier.
This is great! I had no idea this less complicated version of a cope existed. 45 is a slow pain if only one chop saw is available. Have to keep changing between 45 and 90.
Me considero una una persona inteligente pero nunca vi esa unión en mi mente. Buen trabajo.
Gracias, no fue idea mía, muchas personas han estado haciendo estos cortes durante muchos años, me alegra que les haya gustado.
You have good welding skill. Thankyou for imparting welding wisdom. Best wishes from Wangaratta.
Thank you very much Robbie.
@Hello robbiefishing, How are you doing?
Thanks from Kenya
Thank you very much, Greetings from Australia.
A one cut cope and really clean work. I'd like to see the finished work.
I have not edited the finished cupboard as yet, but I wil get it up as soon as I can. Thank you for your comment.
@Hello David, How are you doing?
Im low-tech family welder having amateur welding skill. It was so hard making 45 with any angle grinder. Cutting 45 with zip cutting disc is not accurate. Making the bevel edge toke a lot of time. I see that Cope joint method save me because straight cut only is fairly easy.
i was wondering why he didn't like the miter joint as much, makes sense
SO much easier than trying to get a perfect 45 degree angle...!
Nice. I will try this method on my next project. I have had the legth issue with the miter before .
I believe this is a stronger joint vs. 45° .
Nice and easy thanks for this educational video it helps a lot for me
Thank you, I am glad it was of some help.
@@GavinClarkdiy thanks welcome
Раньше всегдатак делал!) теперь на ленточнопильном все под 45 . Да и болгаркой пилю теперь пилю под 45,главное разместить ровно!
Да, важно то, как это выглядит ПОСЛЕ сварки, плохие разрезы и некоторые зазоры могут быть заполнены сварщиком.
If you are wanting an accurate length don't you need to shorten the uncut one by the width of the metal to make it the same as doing a 45 degree?
Yes, you are right, you would do that, and always check the job again before welding.
Good idea,thank's🙋🏾♂️😃
Very nice work well done
Thank you very much
I’ve done them both ways. The 45 is faster and easier-if your saw is at a vertical 90 degrees. Otherwise when you cut a 45 it’s going to be off. I use the bandsaw for the slice in the end for this method. Much easier, and cleaner than a grinder. But if that’s all you have...
The only advantage to me with this method is no sharp corner that needs to be welded. It’s better to weld this joint.
Yes I can imagine how good the bandsaw would be, thank you for your comment.
Simple but very precise way of joints. Nice...
Nice and simple. thanks mate
No problem 👍
I do this with all structural metal for strength purposes
Great picture frame joint.
Very useful! Thanks very much!
Thank you very much, I am glad it was helpful!
Awesome video, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much mate 🤘🏻 lol
Thank you very much, I am glad you found it useful, I wish you the best for your projects.
Great great video and very useful thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thank you very much, I am happy that you liked it.
I do prefer a cope vs a 45 miter for keeping the joint squared easier. The best is to notch a 45 and then bend and only have to weld 1 half of the 45 instead of 2 if you had just cut both pieces at a 45 and but welded them together
Yes, a very good comment. Thank you
that's a nice technique.
Glad you like it!
Thanks for the great video! I was going to do a 45 degree cut for my frame but your method is so much better! Thanks again!
Glad it helped!
Mate you are a genius ...I'll use this technique
Very informative, thank you!
Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it.
Fantastic wonderful thanks 👏👏👏👏
Thank you, I am glad you liked it. Thank you for your comment.
Wow very helpful video thanks 👏👌🖒🖐👍
Glad it was helpful!
Muito bom. Para quem não consegue fazer um 45°. Perfeito parabéns salve Brasil
Olá da Austrália, sim, muitas pessoas têm problemas para fazer 45 articulações, portanto, dessa maneira, as ajuda a fazer o trabalho. Obrigado pelo seu comentário
Nice. Can't wait to try it.
Thank you
Good video for angle steel welding.
Nice work, great idea. Thanks for posting this.
Thank you
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for your comment.
Отличный метод, пользуюсь им давно. Лайк!
Да, этот метод существует уже столько, сколько я себя помню. Спасибо за ваш комментарий.
Thank you for showing another way to butt weld angle iron 👍never saw that way before until now.
Thank you for your comment
Half the material being cut, works for me.
I am glad it was helpful, thank you for your comment.
That’s nice I will give this a try .
To the point ,great vid
Thank you very much.
That is a good idea. Looks clean too. Its not new but thank you for sharing.
Thank you, I am glad you liked it.
나무자르듯이
나무다루듯이.
전문가!!!!!!!
Easy way brother. New friend 👋
Thank you very much, I am happy that you liked it.
Would call it a Notch Mate.
There seem to be a lotta blokes that like the 45. I dont make much from metal (or angle iron more specifically) but I cut the square out when I do. The other method is just cuttin corners, pun intended
HaHaHa, Thank you for your comment
I started using this technique instead of a 45 it's much better and easier to keep square
gurjinder singh doesn’t it lose strength when using that method? I would think so and the 45 degree cut with a straight weld sound far more superior to me.
@@arkhamkillzone
This is part of my trade. Perhaps you could actually qualify how a 45 degree prepped weld would be stronger!!!
(Keep in mind, I never use a stinkin' inaccurate droppy anymore, so all of my welds of this type of joint are straight 45 degree, which also MUCH quicker)
God bless you mate. Was just looking for how to repurpose some old book shelf rack frames....and you nailed it for me.
Базар жокко базар жок
Super idea
Thank you very much.
Nice clean strong join
Thx for the nice Idea😎, works great👌!! Greets from Vienna, Austria. Christian 👋
G'day from Australia, Thank you for your comment, I am glad you liked it.
Can a pendulum jigsaw can cut 5mm iron or steel angle ?? To cut this cope joint..
I would think you could cut across the angle, but I think you would have a bit of a hard time cutting down along the angle it close side, as the steel gets thicker and I think your blade would want to wander out away from where you need to cut. I have cut these with an hacksaw before, a bit slow but with not too many troubles. Just try it with the jigsaw see how it goes. Hope this helps a bit.
Buen trabajo señor.
Muchas gracias, me alegro que os haya gustado.
Looks like I need to find some scrap to learn on. Cheers mate!
Enjoy, thank you for your comment
Metodu tajjeb hafna,grazzi sihbi🇲🇹
Grazzi ħafna għall-kumment tiegħek
Great video Gav. I so need this info mate cheers for a project I’m doing. You sound like one of my old manual arts teachers lol👍
Thank you, I am glad you liked it and it was of some help, I guess sounding like your old manual arts teacher is a good thing, hahaha Thank you for your comment.
Gavin Clark haha it is mate it is 👍
@Hello Brad Thurkle, How are you doing?
@@lydiaanderson2870 hello Lydia. Do I no you?
@@bradthurkle7217 No but i will be glad to know you better, If you don't mind.
Thanks for that great tip Gavin