Is It Worth The Money? John Deere 1023e Versus 1025r Tractor
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- Review the John Deere 1025r vs 1023e differences and similarities in this John Deere 1 Series tractor comparison. You'll see the many ways the 1023e and 1025r are comparable as well as the bells and whistles that set the two popular tractors models apart from one another.
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Included in this comparison are attachments including the D120 loader, H120 loader, 120r loader, 54" AutoConnect mower deck, 60" AutoConnect mower deck, 260 backhoe, 260B backhoe, Material Collection System (MCS) or Bagger, Powerflow, etc.
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1023E owner, no complaints! Wasn't really pressed about the 5 feature diff.
Read our article about the John Deere 1023e vs 1025r here! Then, do your shopping at www.goodworkstractors.com!
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I'm a farmer in Arkansas. What type of financing could you do on the used 1023?
@@MitchellGWhitehead Sorry, I cannot help with financing in that state unfortunately.
Thank you for the reply. I appreciate your time.
Just so everyone knows, now I can help with financing in any state!
We have 21 hours on our 1025R and so far we love it. I would have like to have went a little bigger so I could move round bales with it, but we have an older 2020 for that. Man it's nice for cleaning under the barn... Great little tractor. Love the videos. Wish I would have found them before I bought. Might have got a used one instead...
Thanks for watching Todd!
Todd Shiverdecker my friend moves 4x4 bales with hers and has no issues
I’ve had the 1023e for a couple years and it is a little workhorse! Thanks for the video👍
I recommend the 1025r I just received one for Father’s Day and I love it it’s fantastic.
Enjoyed your video. I have a 2019 1023e, 120r loader and 60" mower deck. I absolutely love this little tractor. I added LED's to the ROPS using magnets, These are so helpful illuminating the front at night when using the bucket Ii.e. snow revoval, etc.). Looks to me like the lights on the 1025r fenders are useless being blocked by the Loader mounting posts (just and observation). My 1023e serves my purposes perfectly and I am convinced that "NOTHING RUNS LIKE A DEERE"...
Magnets...great idea. Been wanting to add lights like you did but didn't want to hassle. Thanks for the idea
You do a great job of comparing tractors ! I enjoy your channel ! Also looking forward to Tim and Christy getting that 1025 ! God bless you and your family , from the Appalachian Mountains of Virginia , Eddy !!!!
Thank you for the kind words Eddy! God bless you and yours as well :)
Nice video! I found you from Tractor Time with Tim, FYI...looking to buy 1025r, or a 2 or 3 or 4 series...options are killing me! So many choices, I kinda wish something would just jump out and say "buy me". These videos are really helpful to a guy like me trying to get his feet wet without [unnecessarily] emptying his retirement account - LOL
Hi Brian, yes, there's a ton of choices out there. I guess that's really a good problem to have though, right!?! Haha :) Thanks for watching!
I have my heart set on a 3032E but am considering the 1025R due to the price difference. I've only been watching every review video for 2 solid months... Really curious if/when JD will release the 3d series, dealer says there is no ETA yet.
Seems like the 1025R is the Ruger 1022!! I hope to purchase one soon.
Considering buying the 1023e today. Nice rig and it will be used constantly.
Hope you enjoy it!
I got a 2021 1023e loader backhoe with t4 industrial tires I love it on seven acres it’s perfect I’m building a shooting range with mine clearing snow and I built a road I have had it 3 months or so
How much did it cost?
I really like the 1025. Worth the cost difference we paid.
what is the price difference
I'm still looking for my first. Probably end up with riding mower first then a sub without belly mower. 3rd time watching this video and still getting more info! You do a great job! Thanks! GO BLUE!
Thanks Tom!
Blue as on New Holland???
As for the horsepower difference, it's very noticeable in hilly conditions. Maybe not so much in the flat mid west, but definitely here in PA.
Hang a 60" mower deck on both and start mowing grass up a 12-15% grade and you feel it. Add a power flow bagger, even on a 54" deck but more so with the 60". and you can pretty easily bring the 1023E to it's knees going uphill. The engine cc's are 993 vs. 1,267 (about 27% more displacement on the 1025R).
The dealership I work at sells about 3 or 4 1025R's for every 1023E, depending on the promotions Deere is running. Those promotions often vary considerably in favor of the 1023E, being a price/value leader in the lineup. Full MSRP is currently a difference of $1,955, but actual discounted selling price is typically more like a $2,500 gap. But again, that varies due to a bunch of different factors.
Tool boxes are now standard on the 1023E.
List of 1025R upgrades over 1023E, in no particular order.
27% more engine displacement
Position control 3 point hitch
Suspension seat with armrests
Tilt steering wheel
Cruise control
12v outlet
Extra fender mounted lights
Rubber floor mat
Extra trim around fenders and floorboard
Available with factory installed cab
Available with factory installed backhoe
Thanks for taking the time to share!
The larger motor was a no brainer for me!!!! The other nicer features were just icing.
Can you put a backhoe on a 1023 though?
@@jovanventura8726 Yes, the backhoe can be installed. It just cannot be ordered factory installed, so it's a dealer install only.
I needed to see this comment. Thank you.
Another good comparison!
By the way, we could all benefit from you showing and telling how you details these mowers. They both look showroom ready. Mine only has 11 hours and it. I hose it down after mowing but it looks like i need to up my game. Do you pressure was at all? Inquiring minds want to know.
Bill
Thanks for the the review
Depth setting on the 1025R, I'm enjoying my 1025R
I appreciate your videos very much!
Is there still 3-Point on the unit with the backhoe? Maybe I missed it but it’s not been clear to me if you can detach them like the front loader.
My father has a 1023e and it has the 120r loader (I'm assuming, it's a quick connect) and auto connect mower deck. Very capable machine. Just can't understand why the rops are tilted forward when up, better coverage or protection maybe? I dunno just looks odd . $1800 for a swivel kit?! I'ld be going to Cabela's and getting a swivel boat seat for >$200 and rigging it up haha. Maybe even a trolling motor for creeping.
Recently after dad lost a leg been asking few people if it was possible to mount the step on a 260B backhoe onto an older 260 with some modifications. Figure that’s cheaper than just buying a new machine. I just thought of ordering the step anyway then just see how to make it work. On a tractor time with Tim video on the step at 1st think he misunderstood my reasoning for the idea and suggested Ken’s bolt on hook step. I replied back saying I don’t think Ken’s steps would work with dad’s handicap. Even though dad lost a leg he still has a knack for driving tractors, missing leg ain’t gonna stop him
I have a 1023e. I don't see anything in the comparison that makes me want to upgrade to the 1025r. For me it's not worth the price. If I did want to upgrade it would be to a larger series tractor.
Really enjoy Your video series and find them to be very helpful, really like the 1025R but after watching Your video about the most important things involved with the purchase of a tractor I am a little concerned about the fact that my local John Deere dealer has terrible customer service, what would be Your advice for getting service if I purchased used and can warranty be purchased for a used tractor?
Just bought a new 1025 today with rear snow blower and lift bucket in front...can't comment on performance only taking delivery tomorrow but thanks for the video....my older Bro owns a 1025 and loves it but told me it needs a rear LED light because you can't see back there at night...my dealer installed one thrown in with the deal OR so they say...lol...looking forward to using it though.
Yes, they are definitely lacking in rear light in the stock setup. Good call on adding the rear facing LED's.
Oh and congrats on the tractor! Great machines.
Thanks!!...you helped make my decision on a JD so I thank you ….Trying to get all your videos in but can't seem to find the #4 video you told me to watch but I'll keep trying to find it as your videos are very informative....great work keep them coming!!
Love my 1023e
The only difference I see between the 2017 and the 2018 1023e, is I got the 120R loader with mine....thankfully.
I haven't laid eyes on a 2018 1023e. I would have expected the other minor aesthetic changes to be applied to it as well, but perhaps not?
My 1023e also has the 60 inch auto connect to.
Either mower deck fits either machine. This is mentioned in the video.
Good job 👍 thanks Larry
Thanks so much for your awesome videos
Hi Guys came across your review whilst looking for a tractor, great review by the way, you mentioned you deliver anywhere would that included Australia?
I bought the 1023E in 2012. I've loved it, and it's been more than enough for me. The extra 2 HP didn't seem important. Lots of my videos tearing stumps out and more here if you all like to see what you can do: th-cam.com/video/b0kSRxd1eSY/w-d-xo.html
What kind of warranty do give with your tractors? Do you have any 1025 r's with like a Curtis premium cab?
Does mesquite thorns create a problem for the air tires on this tractors have a lot of them, and how much does it cost to fix a flat on this tractors
How do I order the better of the two and where are my list of upgrades?
What was that spreader you had on your channel about a week ago. I may be looking for a new spreader. Thank you
Howdy, here you go. Thanks! www.goodworkstractors.com/product/ag-spray-3-point-electric-spreader-for-sale/
Can the heated cab be added to the 1025R and also have excavator bucket? Thank You!
Thank you for help
you can make a snap on pc cap to go on the pto
Want to buy a tractor of this kind but a little bit confuse like the 1025r and the different kind of attachment the quick release I like
Hi, Can you tell me if the 1023 can take a bigger bushhog than the 4footer? I was told it can only take a 4 ooter, I would have to go into the 3 series but on your video, I see where there is a lot of customize parts. Thanks
I'd recommend nothing larger than a 48" brush hog.
Good Works Tractors Should I assume you are referring ro a smaller tractor? Brush Hog vs Bush Hog. My buddy has the 4045 tractor and had the 4' Bush Hog for mowing 4.5 acres. He recently bought a 6' Bush Hog. Both PTO of course. It really does a nice job. No stray long grass. Almost looks like a finish mower. However, it is digging the crap out of a driveway when he swings it around.
I never really heard what the difference in base sub compact tractors were, outside of the options discussed.
www.goodworkstractors.com/john-deere-1023e-vs-1025r-1-series-tractors/
Different Yanmar model engine. Bigger displacemrnt on 1025R
Correct! About 25% bigger and more torque.
1800 dollars for that swivel seat?? John Deere took a hosing on that, then past it on to us, I have a 1025r and love ever inch of it except for that stupid swivel seat, glad they got rid of that..
Hi the 1025r is what I am looking at getting and you have it set up almost the same.
I am looking at getting 4 in 1 bucket.
do they have a snow blower attachment for this,, thank you fer the video
Yes, 47" and 54" are options.
@@GoodWorksTractors Both front and rear options
Will Mauser cab fit on a 1023E just like it does on the 1025R? Some say they wouldn't fit on a 1023E? If not why? THANKS.
Good question. I haven't seen one on a 1023e before.
@@GoodWorksTractors I live in Ontario, Canada and purchased a 1023E in spring 2018. Traded in my JD2210 with soft side Curtis cab. My dealer did install the Mauser on it for me --- expensive though, but wanted rear wiper and opening rear window. The price difference was about $4000 between 1023E & 1025R, so put difference towards the cab. There was a problem with no cab heat, and they told me they had to make a different connection to the engine block.
The 1023E and the 1025R have 2 different Yanmar engines.
I use mine exclusive for snow - have an HLA 1000 series 60"" hydraulic angle (use the Artillian diverter valve) snow blade on the 120R loader and a 50"" Buhler blower on the 3pt hitch. The one thing I miss is down float on the 3pt hitch. Have never had any traction issues with turf tires - they're basically a snow tire tread. Power wise - no problems - the hydrostatic transmission allows full throttle snow blowing at any ground speed.
Wray Harvey , Napanee, Ontario, Canada
What does the E and the R mean in JD model speak?
I have the 1023 e. I am looking to buy a 3 point hitch 72" mower for it. Will this tractor handle this size mower?
I would say not really. I have a 48 on mine and any thick stuff will almost stall the motor. If you are just going to cut low grass maybe. I think a 60" would be max.
260b backhoe features missed was boots on the controls, locks on the stabilizers to prevent leak down, has a cushioning boom cylinder, and the pins that lock the backhoe in place can be removed from seat position. My opinion: Just get the 1025r!
Thanks for chiming in!
Didn't say anything about the brush guard
Can you add armrests on the 1023 like how the 1025 has it on the Seat
Good question, there may be an aftermarket kit, but it isn't an option from JD.
Yes you can, I've added them on mine and also installed the nice JD seat cover made for the -R tractors that come with armrests.. it's fantastic and extremely comfortable. My 1023E was only 9,995 beans on sale last year, while the 1025R is well over 15,000 now.. absolutely love my 1023E and feel better about it every time I get on it!
I Great job on the videos, They are very helpful, I have a older 4100, does JD make a backhoe for it? And would it all run off the PTO or does it require hydraulic lines ran to it from the pump? And What State are you in?
Sorry I should have watched the full video, You answered my question already. I need a trust worthy JD dealer, I have a JD dealer 2 miles from my house and I can't trust them to work on my tractor. It,s 4x4 and I had a front wheel bearing went out so I took it to them. They called me after they took it apart and said it will be 1200 dollar. I was like wow, But they already had it and it was apart in their shop. So they call and said it's done come and pick it up, So i did. took it off my trailer and used it for less than 5 min and it started making a grinding noise in that same front hub. So i pulled it in my shop and drained the diff gear oil so I could pull it apart, And they put used motor oil in my front diff instead of new gear oil. then I pulled the hub off and they did not even install the new bearing.And it scored the hub housing and chewed up the gears. I did not trust them at this point they might have said something else was wrong and charge me another 1200 to do nothing. So I took the hub back to them in a box and they gave me new parts and I installed them myself. And I told them to change all the bearing and they didn't because i'm still having other bearings going bad. And I didn't make a big deal out of it when I was there. But every since that time when I go in there to buy parts they charge me some crazy prices. At this point I wish I had bought something other than John Deere.
Tractor time with Tim has a turbo on a 1025R (Johnny X)
Great comparison. I have 2013 E and will go back to trade for 1025 R because of the seats. Does 1025 have same control of mower start that has to be pressed each time I shift from forward to reverse? JD ought to have the tractor continue to mower with shift from forward to reverse without having to press the mower start.
Van Rose just over ride the safety
When did they start putting mid PTO on a E Series
James Petersen The 1023e has always had mid PTO. It's the 3e Series that doesn't offer mid PTO. Clear as mud? Haha.
@@GoodWorksTractors okay because I have a 3038e
James Petersen yeah, that still isn't an option. Gotta go to the 3r Series for that.
What model is good for tilling and bush hogging on hills
Either one.. you're supposed to do all mowing etc in low gear, but I think some of these folks are trying to use high which is always wrong.
Purchased one of these new a couple years ago. I also own two 2305 tractors. Cutting grass 1025r vs my older 2305 me on the new one my son on the 2305 the 2305 murdered the newer tractor was so disappointed with the new one I returned it to the dealer after only putting 1.5 hours on it. Dealer was gracious enough to give me full refund.
If you want to cut grass 2305 is much better. In fact I can't think of anything better about the 1025r
First time I've ever heard that.
Good Works Tractors yep. I was astonished myself
Lmfao why would you buy a 1025r just for the mower if you have a clearly good enough mower that doesn't make any sense at all
@@Will-tm5bj was looking to move into the next newer generation assuming it would be an improvement (traded 2210 on 1025r) very disappointed. It didn't do anything better than the 2210 .
We now have three 2305s
1x quick attach Snowblower
1x quick attach Broom
3x62c mid mower decks
1x tiller
1x FELoader
1xharrow bar
1x box scraper
But no backhoe😥
What makes it better than the 1025r?
What is the price ranges with just a tiller no bucket attachment
Wide range of pricing depending on age, hours, features, deck, tiller, location
My 2023E was 9995 on sale, 60" deck 2800, tiller 1800.
You can add optional cab on the 1025 r
Hello, I am currently shopping for a tractor and I'm hesitating between the 1023E and 1025R. My personal use would mostly be maintenance of my lawn and a bit of gardening and earthwork. Both models are almost identical except for some small options not important to me. But the two main points that make me hesitate between the two models is the seat and the adjustment of the variable 3 points hitch control for the 25R. Maybe at some point I will buy a tiller and a land plane but for now I will get the mower and front loader. But is it really worth it for $2000 or will the 1023E do the job for me? Thank you and love your channel
Either will get the job done, it's more about paying for additional conveniences.
I have the 1023E and it works just fine I have the mower,front in loader and tiller I love it easy to work on
I just notice this was 2 years ago lol..what did you end up getting?
I ended up with a 1023 and I love it 👌
@@rejeanpivin4119 forgot I have the bush hog too!! lol
where can i buy the bagger from for the 1023E
John Deere
@@GoodWorksTractors can i have a link please
I don't believe there is a link. I'm not a John Deere dealer. You'll need to go into their store or call them and they can quote it for your specific machine.
@@GoodWorksTractors ok thank u for your help
You are panning the camera way too fast , making me dizzy, no joke
I admit, I'm an amateur.
Different HP engine and PTO HP
So ... what is the price difference between the 2
eviloctober at my local dealer they’re about 2k difference both brand new
Dude got me dizzy with the camera movements
which one did Tim buy?
TTWT is buying the 2018 John Deere 1025r TLB. I will have his older TLB for sale in the near future.
@@GoodWorksTractors And if tractors could tell stories!!
@@Formulabruce ....lots of stories...but honestly, you've seen almost all of Johnny's stories!
Hey that’s Tim’s new tractor isn’t it ?
WooHoo!
Tractor Time with Tim you will like the new loader style.
It sure is. I am trying to enjoy my precious last few days with it :)
how much does the john deere 1023e cost?
Hardly makes sense to even build two different engines 2 HP difference.
I agree
Good Works Tractors seems that they could lower production cost by using one engine.
Likely same engine with different injectors and set up.
@@akbychoice Likely the same engine with deiierent injectors and set up. V 8 Cat (3208) is available in 210 HP Naturally asperated, 375 425 HP turbo and injector difference (marine) in the same block.
sgtcrab1 but in this scenario 2 hp change to 25 hp, less than 10% change. Why.
3208 at 210 hp to 325 hp is more like 30-33% increase. That makes $ sense.
1025R is worth every penny over the 1023. They make the 1023 look appealing with the price on the commercials but dont mention it has no loader or ANY features like mower deck. By the time you add the loader and mower you near the 1025R price. I bought my 1025R with the quick attach loader and 60 inch deck for 17,000 out the door. Hell the seat alone is worth the money LOL. That 1023 without the suspension seat would beat the living hell out of you. Using the loader with tires inflated to full load is a pretty rough ride and you will be thankful you bought the 1025R with the suspension seat to absorb the bombs and jars.
My 1023e came with quick attache bucket quick attache front loader auto connect deck the dealership themselves said unless you need that seat n cruise control there's no difference
Ah, I know Tim wants the new backhoe, SCORE!!
Haha, yeah buddy. I think he'll be happy with it :)
That must be an old model, my 1023e has the same loader that your 1025 has.
It's mentioned right in the video that either loader could go on either machine.
👍😉
how mach
How many hours did that 1025 have on it?
JGK 50 hours on that 2018 1025r
Wow, thats brand new! Do you have attractive financing?
JGK I can help with financing if you're in Michigan or Indiana.
Good Works Tractors Ohio...🤔
JGK Im sure there's plenty of good lenders in Ohio. Try the credit unions around you versus the big banks. They tend to be easier to work with.
Do they have the same transmission?
Yes, both hydrostatic.
well you can get the 120 auto on the 1023
Are the Rops a little different?
Nice nice but I can not and will not support a company stopping right to repair. I don't need to wait days to get a John deer mechanic to fix the tractor.
I gasped when I saw all those tractors. Green with envy... see what I did there? 😀
😂
Pro horse power is different between the two and that can be a big deal
If it were 10hp I would agree. I don't think anyone would ever notice 2hp.
I agree. The 1023 .9 liter producing that kind of hp and torque is very impressive. It's a yanmar on steroids.
2x4 or 4x4?
Both are both :)
All that money and they still don't put hand fabricated decks on them?
The front grill on the 25 is a lot beefier
the front brush guards come with the 2 "different" loaders the 120r's is nicer than the d120
That can be added to either tractor.. I have the nice brush guard and front weight bracket on my 1023E for use with the 49" tiller.. great setup and I absolutely love everything about it. Also have the 60" deck as well, wonderful mowing machine.. I call it my garden tractor on steroids 😆
You said "same attachments". I understand you can't mount the backhoe on the 1023
I have sold quite a few 1023e's with a backhoe. What you were told isn't true. Just google it and you'll find 1023e's with backhoes on them.
A John Deere dealer told me you could not put the backhoe attachment on the 1023. As a result I bought a 1025! Looks like I was lied to
You can absolutely put the backhoe on the 2023E.. it's no big deal to do at all.
Also remember that the 260 backhoe was originally designed as a 270 to mount on the 2000 series which they discontinued and renamed it the 260 A , then, claimed that the 46 was the way to go for the 2000 series. BULLSHIT JD~!! if you have a 62D hydraulic lift belly mower.
Wrong about the auto connect on the 1023e. Mine has it anyway!
What am I wrong about?
Bought mine in 2016 and it has the auto connect which came as standard equipment.
It is not a standard feature, so you paid for that upgrade.
Were is good works at
Don McMannamy Thanks for asking. We are in Kalamazoo, Michigan. We can deliver anywhere in the USA.
Thanks I'm in toledo so when i get the money ill come up and see what you have
Don McMannamy Sounds great. Hope to talk to you soon!
No duals last time I checked.
I'm not sure what you're referring to?
@@GoodWorksTractors Just found it odd that john deere didn't offer duals on these tractors like most of the others.
The 1023e mower deck sucks. After 4 yrs my girlfriends low hr tractor keeps loosing the mower deck. They have told her the pins that hold it are worn and there is no way to fix it. So she has a 4yr old tractor with a crappy deck and now they say she Need's to buy a new tractor
Thought you were comparing tractors not impliments
Yep, different options for different models. Were you not planning to have a mower or loader on your tractor?
@@GoodWorksTractors I was looking for hp differences etc. I am only going to use as a snowblower. I understand the 1023 cant have a hard cab but the 1025r can.
Junk have one 12 hours on it overheats after about 30-45 min of mowing clean the grill it let it cool down but heat back up just got it back the tech said you need to stop every little bit to clean the grill I feel I wasted my money my brother mows twice as much with a 1880 kubota never stops or overheats
That's not typical. If you're brush hogging, there's tons of debris and you do need to clean off on a regular basis. You should always clear your screens before mowing lawn. I don't know how it would produce enough debris to clog the screens unless you're mowing for hours and hours on end.
Just using the mower
I think it's bad practice to mow with a loader on. Put's unneeded stress on the front axle, wear on the loader pivots, and provides a bouncy ride. I've never once had a 1025r overheat while mowing my lawn. It could definitely depend on conditions...i.e. if your lawn has 12" grass. Brush hogging is a different story.
It’s a 1023 the kubota is fine but the John Deere is getting hot and shutting the blades off motor is knocking now overheats after about 20 min mowing about 7 acres kubota does fine both mowing same day John Deere gets hot their tech said it’s to dusty
I would have watched this video however i was too dizzy in the first 30 seconds
I'm in the market. But only have 5 acres. I mow with a Gravely ZTHD 60. But I do have 600 feet of driveways to box blade. Which I'm doing with my qaudrunner. Time consuming! So all I need is a tractor to scoop gravel and box blade. No belly deck. But rear p.t.o. just in case I want to put a 4 foot brush cutter on it. What would you feel would make me Happy?
You're on the right track with either of these machines. Rear PTO is standard. The 1025r will just be more of the deluxe version while the 1023e will save you some money and still get the job done. Thanks for watching!
What are you doing hoarding them
My honest opinion is when they killed off the 2320, 2520 and the great 2720, which i own, I lost all faith in John Deere!!!
Walk around faster and sway a lot.
The 1023e is advertised as a 15 hp tractor.
To clarify, 15HP at the PTO. Not engine HP.
22.1 HP
Both are over priced...
Would never buy a new deere..
Honestly with all the bullshit john deer is trying to do to farmers I wouldn't either just trying to see what's new
Drugs are bad....mmm kay